Allie Beth Stuckey is one of the most effective voices in the public square touting genuine Christian orthodoxy, so Charlie was eager to team up with her. In their joint appearance at Freedom Night in America two years ago, the two take audience questions on parenting, college, standing true to their beliefs, and of course, caffeine. They discuss the many ways that modern comforts can become idols as dangerous as any old pagan god, and explain why the true sources of wealth aren't measured in dollars.
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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start attorney point, you would say, college chapter. Go start attorny point, you say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. Noble Gold Investments is the gold sponsor of Charlie kirkshow a company that specializes in gold I rays and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at Noblegoldinvestments dot com. That is Noblegold Investments dot com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegold Investments dot com. Yeah, all right, we'll start. Uh, we'll start right here. How we doing, my man?
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Speaker 2: Damn good? So I was just wondering if you were going to be at the Trump thing tomorrow. I mean, I know it's not related, but just.
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Speaker 1: Really, I'll see if I can fit into my schedule. Uh, yes, I will be. I will be here bright and early. And yeah, just trying to make sure that we have organized chaos.
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Speaker 2: So yes, fallow up to that. Are you going to be talking to him?
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Speaker 1: I will be Yeah, what would you if you could? What messag should I bring to mister Trump?
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Speaker 2: Say hi to me in the crowd?
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Speaker 1: All right, you got it? I love it, I will say for I will say to him, though, please keep fighting, Please keep fighting, Please keep fighting. We have your back. I'm going to tell him that. And I'm very biased. Ali knows this. I've known the family for a while. I know him very well. I think with the conviction, all of a sudden, people that might not have been political they realize that this is such a violation of the normal American rules and customs of how we operate as a society. You do not get to use the legal system to make it harder for an opposition political candidate to challenge power that is cheating. You do not You are not allowed to do that. And the entire election can be summarized in that immigration is important, economy is important, but just as a statement of principle, we will not put up with America becoming the third World period, we will not allow that to happen. Okay, yes, sir, hi, this question is for Ali.
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Speaker 3: My name is Jeff and I'm not your normal demographic, but I'm a card carrying related bro. So thank you, love your podcast. So how do I ask this? I have a just turned fourteen year old daughter, loves Jesus straight, a student, great girl, but a struggling with what you talked about, to let go of trying to center things around what she wants, and all too often at home and ends in frustration and emotions all over the place.
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Speaker 1: And we pray for her, and we talked to her.
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Speaker 3: She even knows the verse, if you seek to find yourself, you'll lose it, but if you seek to lose yourself, you'll find it, and so forth. And she's still struggling mightily with that. What suggestions do you have to encourage and help her with that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I.
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Speaker 4: Only have experience as having been that teenage girl, not parenting that teenage girl, So I can't come from that perspective.
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Speaker 2: It does sound, yes, of.
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Speaker 4: Course it's sinmple for anyone to center ourselves, but it sounds like a lot of normal teenage girl stuff. And as long as it truly is a struggle. And this is true for all of us. And what I mean by that when a lot of people say, oh, I'm struggling with this sin. Are you struggling with that sin? Or are you just sinning and feeling bad about it? That's not a struggle. And so if she is actively trying, through the grace of God, to resist that selfishness, maybe even not in a legalistic way, but give herself goals of selflessness and charity and generosity and putting other people before herself. Every day she is reading her Bible, she's surrounding herself with other godly girls, and she is praying. I mean, that's the strugg against sin that all of us are in right now. It just manifests itself in pretty wild ways. You're an emotional teenage girl. But you know what, Dad, you are doing a really good job.
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Speaker 6: All right, So, Charlie, I know your a little iffy on the college, maybe being a scam or whatnot, but I want to know. So next year, I'm attending Baylor University, a private Christian conservative school, so I want to know, like, what's the best advice you'd give me to not only succeed academically but also.
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Speaker 1: With my faith? Sure, so why are you going to college?
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Speaker 6: I think I'm very well with school, and my parents have taught me that. I think it's the best idea for me. I play sports in high school, but I just knew basketball like wasn't my money maker. So I think school is, and I just think it's going to be a great experience.
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Speaker 1: You no, cool, But why are you going to college? I think just.
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Speaker 6: For my job path and to be in finance.
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Speaker 1: I think, okay, cool, Yeah that's a good. So you're studying finance or business, so yeah, you don't need to go to college. For that. That's good. I'm glad. I hope, hope it works out. So Baylor super woke. Just so we're clear, it's not conservative, it's not christian like at all. And they're increasingly LGBT, increasingly left wing. I'm giving you a hard time because you're a guy. You could handle it if you know. But to be honest, like college is a total waste of time for most people. You might meet a couple of cool people, maybe you'll meet your wife. It's a total scam. I hope you're not borrowing too much money. No, okay, good? So but yeah, look I think that and I can say this from authority. I visited more college campuses in the last decade than another person. We run a national college organization. They make you take classes that have no application to your major. I'll tell you just one quick example. We have an intern goes to Ohio State University. He has to now graduate another six months later than his original four years because they added all these new diversity classes. So he has to he has now go pay to go to class another six months for another twenty five thousand dollars. Because of diverse deck we inclusion CRT. I cannot put into words how unnecessary college is for our best and brightest. Now, some can succeed, And I'm not trying to make you feel bad or like whatever, but look, make the most of it. And if you feel like it's a waste of the time to drop out, I mean, I know that sounds like I know your mom's going to like throw something at me or whatever. But this is important. Which is and I will challenge every parent out there that might not like what I'm saying, which is, if you had to choose, this is actually a really good question for parents to ask your kid going to college. Ask your kid going to college. When I raised you, do you think I would prefer that you get a college degree or be a good person, and have your son or daughter answer that back to you. It would be a very interesting thing, and vast majority of kids will say, oh, my parents would much rather have me get a college degree. College degrees are way more valuable in high society than being a person of good character or you know. Again, one of the reasons I hate college is that it is a peatrie dish for the worst behavior, the worst actions, and the worst worldview. You become a worst person at most colleges. And again, it doesn't mean that you have to, but you're constantly surrounded by hookup culture, premarital sex, getting blackout, drunk, drug usage, bad worldviews, deconstructionism. So what can you do? Join the Turning Point USA chapter is number one, right because we are a hedge against those things. And yeah, look, I know you might think that I'm being unfair to the college thing, but I think I have been rather vindicated this last year when we saw this hamas garbage happening on campuses across the country. I'm just saying, and I say this with no exaggeration, that is just a taste. Now, if you are going to go here's the cool thing you can decide to become a better person. But it's going to take a lot of work, a lot of self control, the Holy Spirit being like, I'm not going to drink for four years, Like I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to have any alcohol like that would actually make our college experience awesome. I'm going to go spend extra time with professors. I'm going to leverage this to meet the best alumni of Baylor and to become by the way, the number one thing that college gets you is not knowledge. They don't teach you anything. It's connections or people, which again you don't need college for that, but like it is learning from the alumni and getting a piece of papers that people take you seriously. So anyway, that's my piece of advice. And then just being like, you know, meeting some rich people from Dallas and maybe their dads can hire you once you graduate. Sorry if that was too blunt, this kind of how I am.
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Speaker 7: Hi, Charlie. My name is Kevin. And by the way, happy birthday. And I've been here the true birthday.
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Speaker 1: You're right, my birth Yes.
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Speaker 7: For the last three years, I've missed about four of these nights, so I just want to say congratulations on your birthday. Ali, thank you very much for being here tonight. We've really appreciate your views. I have a personal friend. Oh and by the way, I have a comment after the question. I have a personal really quick moment, I have a personal friend who is raising a gay daughter. What would be the best advice you could give to me to bring it up in conversation to help him guide her in a different path.
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Speaker 4: Perhaps, Yeah, that can be a really difficult thing to navigate, especially as a friend.
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Speaker 2: There is this really good book.
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Speaker 4: It's called Tactics by Greg Cochel, and something I love about this book is that he says, in every conversation that we have, we're getting the person closer to truth and closer to Christ. It's not that in every conversation we're trying to win the argument or that we're taking the ball into the end zone.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the correct terminology.
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Speaker 4: In every conversation, you are inching them closer to the truth.
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Speaker 2: And that means that you can.
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Speaker 4: Start by asking him questions that make him think about it in a way that maybe he's never thought about it before.
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Speaker 2: So have you talked to your daughter about this? What about this? What do you think about when the Bible says this?
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Speaker 4: If you ask him questions based on scripture and what God's word says about sexuality and the importance of raising your children in the Lord and admonishing them and what is right what God says about sexuality, make him think about it a little bit more. See if he'll read a book that you suggest to him about someone. There's lots who used to live a gay lifestyle and then came to Christ and completely repented of that there are a lot of ways that you can help push your friend towards Christ without alienating them right away, because they might be offended. That's always a possibility. But cultivating and planting those seeds and making him think you never know how God is going to water and give growth to your efforts, and pushing him towards what's true.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really quick, Yeah, briefly, Charlie conveyed to forty five tomorrow that we've.
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Speaker 7: Got his back.
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Speaker 1: I will say that, thank you, and you guys showing up tomorrow will remind him of that because this is his first public event tomorrow post show trial conviction.
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Speaker 2: I just have two questions.
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Speaker 8: I know, like, uh, one thing that like really upset Jesus was when like people were selling stuff inside of the church.
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Speaker 2: He like flipped over tables and stuff.
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Speaker 8: How do you feel about like people like selling their books and you know, kind of making a marketplace of the church, so you say. And also my second question would be, I know that like one of the big things he mentions over and o idol worship and idle and idle and idol. Do you feel like like caffeine and social media are kind of like underlooked in the church community and like kind of no one really like says anything about it or mentions it. They might like mention it a little bit, but it's not very like. It's not spoken of as like an idol.
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Speaker 1: It's such an interesting question. I'll let you do the marketplace.
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Speaker 2: I was to say, I'll let you do that.
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Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about caffeine being an idol, because if that's an idol, I got a lot of repenting to do. I'll tell you what. So yeah, Look, I'll first say I don't know how caffeine could become an idol. I actually think caffeine is a different type of drug because it actually, at its best is used to make you more productive, which is why I have a lot of it. In fact, i've had I'm actually on a ninety day caffeine fast because I had way too much caffeine for a long period of time. Yes, you don't need caffeine as much as you think you do, but anyway, that's a separate issue. So I guess I'm wrong.
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Speaker 4: I think that's how it can become an idol when you depend upon it for energy that you don't like.
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Speaker 1: I think you're like, I do that.
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Speaker 4: I do that, like, Oh, I can't read my Bible until I have my coffee. And then sometimes you don't get around to reading your Bible because you just wanted the coffee.
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Speaker 2: So I think sometimes it could become an idea.
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Speaker 1: I will say though, that the the idol that is not talked about is gluttony in the church that is legit, and that that is the the indulgence culture of food that is bad for you, and lifestyles that defile the temple that God has given you, which is your body. That one I can agree with. As far as the marketplace, I mean, look, I will say that in certain circumstances, if you if you're if you run a church, and you're trying to like personally profit from it, then yeah, of course obviously. But no, I have no problem with somebody that makes their living off of like selling a book or whatever. As long as it's done tastefully and voluntarily. I find no problem with that whatsoever.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, and it also he said, like you've turned my house into a din of robbers, and so there was a lot of exploitation going on there. And it wasn't just commerce. It wasn't just simple supply and demand. There was exploitation of the poor, cheating that was going on there. The temple wasn't being used for the worship that it should have been used for. Like, I don't think it's wrong for a house of worship that is truly dedicated to worshiping the Lord. But like there's also a bookstore there to sell books.
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Hi.
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Speaker 2: My name is Elisaban Patten.
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Speaker 9: I'm taking over the Turning Point chapter at my school next year as a freshman. I'm extremely Christian, conservative and strong in my beliefs. However, I have a second cousin who's transgender. All my extended family supports them, and I have multiple arguments with family members about it. How do I go about being loving toward them but also standing from in my beliefs.
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Speaker 1: How old is that individual? I am not sure, like under eighteen or above eighteen? Above eight above eighteen? Okay, Allie, do you have a thought on first on that I've severaled it?
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Speaker 7: Uh?
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Speaker 4: Sure, I've had the I've had the privilege of interviewing a lot of d transitioners and there's one. Her name is Laura Perry, and I won't tell her whole story, but she tried to live her life as a man for several years. There were lots of reasons why she thought that that would make her happy. She changed her body, she took hormones. She realized, Okay, this is just not working. But she had for a period of time alienated herself from her Christian conservative parents who would never call her Jake and would never call her he him.
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Speaker 2: And for a while she thought, well, they're just bigots.
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Speaker 4: They're church or bigots, and I don't want to be around them. While the Lord ended up softening her heart, she ended up transcript being some Bible verses for her mom's Bible study, and while she was doing that, the Lord used his word as he does, to start to convict her and to change her heart. And then long story short, she became a Christian. She is an amazing testimony.
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Speaker 2: She's married now.
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Speaker 4: Of course, she's living is what she always has.
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Speaker 2: Been a woman.
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Speaker 4: But what she says when she shares her testimony is that the first people that she went to after her conversion and after she realized she had a detransition were.
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Speaker 2: The people that always called her Laura.
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Speaker 4: Were the people that never wavered, the people that never affirmed the deceit in her life, the people that affirmed her Deceit are the people who helped.
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Speaker 2: Her ruin I don't want to.
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Speaker 4: Say ruin her body, but irreversibly change her body. But it was her parents and that conservative evangelical church that never wavered, that always said you're a woman made in the image of God.
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Speaker 2: Those were the people she went to.
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Speaker 4: So for now, you might be the family member that everyone says, Ugh, she just doesn't get it. She is just ignorant, she is just backwards. She's a bigot, and that could be hurtful. I don't want to minimize that, but I promise you you standing for truth is one obedience to God. That's what matters, end of story. But two, God will use your obedience, I promise you. I don't know how, and I don't know when. In this person's life. It might be fifty years he or she might look back and say, you are the only one that stood for me.
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Speaker 2: So keep standing strong.
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Speaker 1: First, love that you're running the turning point chapter. That's amazing. Secondly, I will say this that I do not believe that someone is actually transgender. I don't believe that's a thing. I know that is a provocative view, but it is rooted in the Bible. It's rooted in scripture and it's rooted in biology. What do I mean. I mean that the person might think they are something that they are not, but they do not become the other thing just because you think the thing. The ramifications of accepting transgenderism as normative identification is civilizational ending. It is you can choose your age, you could change your choose your race, you can choose your income level, you could choose whatever you want based on mental status. So there has a doctor Miriam Grossman, who is here. I encourage you to re listen to that podcast. It was amazing when she was here. She said it great, which is that there's almost never a case of somebody that has transgenderism that does not have underlying undiagnosed bipolar, schizophrenia, depression, generalized anxiety disorder, or other issues alongside of it. So transgenderism most times, ninety nine point nine percent of the time is a symptom. So for example, if Ali, all of a sudden it says I have a fever, that tells us nothing. She could have a bacterial infection, she could have COVID, her appendix might burst. She there's like five hundred different reasons why human beings break into a fever. So transgenderism is a fever. It is a symptom, and so we are trying to treat a symptom without actually going to the root cause, which, unfortunately American medicine is all about symptom management and not trying to get to root causes far too often. That's a systemic problem across the board. So thank you so much. Hi folks.
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Speaker 10: These questions for Ali. I'd like her delivery a little better. But if Charlie saw taken, I got two daughters.
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Speaker 1: I no offense taken. Okay, we you need to go storm the city, you know, call me so all right.
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Speaker 10: I got two daughters of both career women, and they have dogs. And as a father, I've tried to get into the conversation. I was wondering if on your relatable website, if you've got any material or maybe you can just roll play some reason for me to break into that subject matter without getting them angry with me.
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Speaker 4: You mean they have dogs that they use as replacement for children. Yes, so this is a very sensitive conversation because women young people do not realize that they are channeling their natural biological urge for children into plants and pets.
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Speaker 2: They don't realize that.
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Speaker 4: They think, oh no, this is just an amazing dog.
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Speaker 2: And I just love this dog so much. This is my baby. No, the reason why you're so attached.
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Speaker 4: To that dog is because you're supposed to be having a baby right now.
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Speaker 2: Your biology is telling you that.
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Speaker 4: Now. Again, I'm not saying that every single woman in that situation has chosen that. I'm not saying that, but many have. And that's why they get defensive, because this has become their baby. It has neurologically like that's that's what's going on there.
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Speaker 2: And so that is a difficult conversation.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, you got to start with finding the right man and then marriage. If you're talking about wanting them to have children, I think that's I think that's what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: Do you need to clarify? Am I wrong?
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Speaker 11: Oh?
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Speaker 2: They are both buried. Oh sorry I missed that. I miss that portion. Okay, that's a whole bigger issue.
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Speaker 4: And so then their husbands are not leading very well. And as much as I know you it's an awesome dad want to step in and say, uh, don't you want to have kids? At the end of the day, their husbands need to be the ones to step up and to make that decision. Not that I'm not trying to just hawk my book. But this is something I talk about in my book. It's called You're Not Enough and that's okay, escaping the toxic culture of self love. And I wrote it a few years ago and we talked about that. Replacing babies with pets and plants. It's a huge problem.
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Speaker 10: What venue are you on? Rumble YouTube?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can listen to my well, it's on YouTube. You can watch it on YouTube, and you can listen to it wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Speaker 2: And you can get the.
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Speaker 4: Book wherever you buy books. President Trump was gracious enough a couple of years ago to come on the show, and so that was fun, maybe my most fun guest ever, if I do say so.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 5: Hi.
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Speaker 11: I am standing in for Native Americans all over the United States, and I do have a question, well two, but I'll just do one.
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Speaker 2: So, how can us children of God.
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Speaker 11: Or people who go to the Native Americans that go to church be influential and encouraging two other Native Americans on the reservation, especially the Napain Nation because it's one of the biggest parts of Arizona and their votes are very important to whoever is going to be elected and in the Arizona State to become It's very hard for Native American women in there's a stronghold on that of becoming submissive wives and being loving and you know, gentle and caring mothers, just because a generational of abuse and a lot of mothers there they come from. For me, I'm the only one who saved in my family, so I don't have a mother figure to look up to who can love their child the way God would want to. And James City has been a big influence on my life.
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Speaker 12: I'm thankful and so but would you what can how can we become more influential on the reservation as mothers and as leaders in political ways?
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Speaker 1: Well, first, God bless you. It's so unbelievably important. And I would love to visit Apachie County. I learned that Navajo Nations in Apache County, not now the Hope County. It's an interesting thing. I'd love to have visit and do some stuff. First of all, let's just make sure this is mentioned number one community with a lot of addiction, right and a lot of problems, and so only Jesus Christ can set the Native Americans free from that addiction and that cycle of addiction, and so you must be relentless in sharing that. Number Two, there is still a lot of paganistic folklore that exists in you know, Native backgrounds, and so the Christianity is against a lot of that paganistic folklore. And which is why you say, you know, the only one that saved. But look, I see a huge movement in traditionally left wing populations Native American Hispanic Black communities that are increasingly open to the conservative message. Is this is a difficult thing to communicate, but Native American reservations I are by far some of the most messed up places in America, and it's largely because of government policies of subsidizing the worst behavior, of massive amount of social welfare state. And if you want the real tragedy, it's we mistreated the Native population legitimately one hundred fifty years ago like there's no spin, like just the way it is, and now we've continue to mistreat them in the name of compassion the last one hundred years. Is that Native Americans deserve better than NonStop government programs and addiction and welfare. So I don't know how it is. One of the hardest things is to convince people that are not free that they should pursue liberty. And I'm sure you live amongst that. Every single day I visited a lot of reservations. They're very depressing. I'm sorry. They're wonderful people, but the amount of addiction broken families is very hard to witness. So we'd love to work with you and keep on spreading the gospel and the good news. So God bless you, Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. What I wanted to ask.
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Speaker 13: Is what is your best advice for a young Christian, strongly conservative teen boy to not to stay strong in my beliefs and not you know, stray away to the left and you know, become an atheist despite pushback from any you know, future hypothetical friends or pressure I might face graduating high school in a couple of years, I would.
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Speaker 2: Say one of the most important things.
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Speaker 4: So I did go to college. I'm not recommending going to college, but I did go to college.
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Speaker 2: And Charlie is one hundred percent right about college.
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Speaker 4: By the way, I learned everything I need to know, like by twelfth grade. It was just a few connections that I'm thankful for. And then I ended up meeting my husband from that, so.
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Speaker 2: That was worth it.
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Speaker 4: But the thing that kept me saying, that kept me from becoming a communist in college was immediately surrounding myself by like mind with like minded people, immediately joining a local church, immediately joining a Bible study, immediately joining the campus ministry, immediately getting to know a variety of Christian families in the city who I started babysitting for all of those people in the structure that they created around my life and holding me accountable and keeping me solid, Like there's so much power in looking around and realizing, oh, I'm not the only one.
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Speaker 2: That's what I would say.
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Speaker 4: You have to surround yourself with people that are godlier than you are, that are stronger than you are, that are more sure about their faith and their belief system than you are, so that they can sharpen you as iron sharpens iron. So it doesn't have to be ten friends. It can just be one solid friend. But try as much as you can to avoid isolation and surround yourself by people who make you better.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, and join the local turning point chapter. Yes, ma'am, we'll do one more here, one more there, so we'll do three more.
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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, Hi, my name is Sidney.
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Speaker 14: You're getting a lot of college questions, but I plan I attending Grand Kidney University in the fall.
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Speaker 2: I understand how.
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Speaker 14: It's a little bit of a touchy subject, especially in the conservative world. I was wondering if both of you speak into this, because what I'm struggling with college is that it's I'm told a lot by conservative media, by Christians that it's not necessary for you, your spiritual growth, your professional growth. But no one will hire me without a college degree. And I say this not trial like I've tried. So I actually applied for a Turning Point internship and I was told that I had to either be in my second year of college or an equivalent. And so it's hard to do anything.
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Speaker 2: And I hope this is.
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Speaker 1: A common crost argument. Who told you that I was?
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Speaker 14: I was told to check back again, and then the internship process told me I couldn't.
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Speaker 1: Was that for hiring or internship? It was probably.
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Speaker 2: Internship, internship, junior website.
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Speaker 1: No, just apply for a job, so the foundering go to college.
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Speaker 14: But yeah, so it's just been really hard for me because I've been told I'm not yet old enough or I don't have the experience, or people won't hire me without like the work ethic that they know I have if I have a degree. So it's I'm going through this process and I'm I'm not saying I'm not looking forward to it because I believe college has a lot of things to offer, especially because I'm going my dad's a pastor in the area, so I already I'm very grounded in my faith. I'm very grounded. I have a great group of friends who are also Christian. So that's not what I'm going for. I'm just being told I can't progress in my life without a college degree by people who say that college is bad.
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Speaker 2: So I don't really know where to go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean, look, I'll someone's gonna get handled. So yeah, that's that I was doing. So no, But so let me ask you a question. What's more important, happy, healthy family or career for your life? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Family?
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Speaker 1: Okay?
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Speaker 2: Cool?
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Speaker 1: So sore? So in college just you know, if you want to find a husband, that's a great place to do that potentially, and honestly, it's probably worth it because a lot of people can't find husbands, So getting an mrs degree is totally legit. No, I'm totally like, no, i' abou diminishing that. By the way, if you say I'm going to college, find a husband, like, I totally respect that, like absolutely worth one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, like absolutely, no, think I'm right ally like that's not a joke, Like I mean, finding your life partner, like of course you should go into debt for that. Absolutely, But it's just a lie. I mean, I don't know how else to say it. It depends on what you want to do. People will hire you. And again, I'm just I'm so out on the college thing because it's such non creative thinking. They don't teach you wisdom, they don't teach you actually worldly, they kind of they just treat you like a cog and a wheel. And again, so I what do you want to do?
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Speaker 14: I plan on going into the ministry, which people usually think is you don't need college for it.
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Speaker 2: But honestly, no one will hire you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's just not true. But yeah, that's just not true.
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Speaker 2: I think it's changing.
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Speaker 4: I think it's but I feel you that's I mean, basically why I went to college because everyone just went to college and that's what she did, and that is how I got my job that I then was able to meet my husband from that. So I feel you, but I do think I don't know how quickly it's going to change, but I do think employers at least an R sphere Christian Conservative sphere are looking less and less at degrees and more. Are you smart, do you think critically? Are you trustworthy? Do you have a good attitude? Those are the four things that I look for when I'm looking for someone to hire.
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Speaker 1: So thank you, say she might hire you. Thank you.
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Speaker 15: Pastor Angel told me to take the mic. We have a college here that's not a scam. It's connected to Southeastern University, so if anybody has questions, they can find me. After we teach our students not just biblical truths and everything, but also just how to be really good people in this community. We teach biblical values, no woke stuff. So it is a good option, especially for you if you want to go to ministry.
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Speaker 1: Thanks here and then he'll be the final we'll go. Yeah, yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 16: So as we become less woke, everyone started to turn against our views on marriage. Me and my best friend firmly believe in marriage and believe it's the best thing for women. Do you think it's smart that we full sin get married and have a bunch of kids, or if.
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Speaker 2: We just go to high school?
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Speaker 1: If you just the last part, yeah, if you just got a high school, Oh yeah, don have as many kids as early as you possibly can. Absolutely, yeah, well absolutely no. I mean, true wealth is how many how many children you have or how good your relationship is with them. I mean, look, I know that might sound really radical, but I've been radicalized by the amount of people that did not prioritize family formation. And they delayed, and they delayed and they delayed. And again, the most beautiful stories I hear are from families that they had more kids than they could afford, and they extend themselves a little bit, and in that insanity and that chaos, they're formed very very close together. And so yeah, look, it might not be financially easy, but you have to answer a question, do you want to live a simple life or a deep life? And if you want to live a deep life, that involves having children and getting married. And again, for those of us that have kids, it is not easy. You know, Ali has three, we have two. Do you want to also you want that self love narcissism to die have children that that murders self love narcissism right like very quickly. And it was like self love like, okay, I have two kids under the age of two, and go give yourself like a nice mental hug or whatever weird Buddhist thing you're doing. And so yeah, look, I again, I might sound like radical advice, but have at least, you know, have a couple of kids and then see how that works. But it's the most amazing thing, and do it while you can. I think it's really important. And children are a gift from the Lord, as it says in Proverbs. And we're we would we would both totally agree with that, so thank you. Yes, this will be the final question.
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Speaker 14: Hi, my name is Broxton and Senies and I have two questions.
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Speaker 2: One is how do I get closer to God?
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Speaker 16: What are some tips how to get closer to God?
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Speaker 1: How old are you?
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Speaker 2: By the way, eleven?
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Speaker 1: Amazing? I'll give it up for that's not easy to do to get up there.
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Speaker 2: Sure do you have a Bible?
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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so I would get you like when I don't know if y'all had like the NIV New Adventure Bible growing up. Was anyone born in the nineties that had that, Yes, it was the best. And so get you a good translation that's easy to read, that's easy to understand. I even like listening to the Bible on an app sometimes I'm just busy. That might be something that you like to do. Prayer and reading your Bible, those are two of the best ways to get closer to God. Make sure that you're going to if I don't know if you're going to this church or not, but if you go to this church, that's great. Make sure that you've got older men or older boys who are older than you, who are discipling you, who are mentoring you, and who are teaching you what's good, right and true. Yeah. Make sure that you're plugged into the local church into people who can influence you.
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Speaker 2: Well, I would say those three things.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So such a great question. The earlier you can learn how God designed you to get closest to God is really important. And everybody has a different answer to this. Some people get closest to God in prayer, some people get closest to God in Bible study. That's certainly me. When I start to see the beauty of the scriptures using reason. I freak out. I love it. I'm like wow, just the beauty of it. Other people get closest to God in worship of music and listening to worship music, which is very, very biblical. Other people get closest to God through acts of service, so through helping other people or volunteering. Other people get closest to God by going to church. However, the last thing I'll say is this is that this is not taught in most churches. You have to choose and decide to want to get close to God. That He sometimes does come into your life unexpectedly, that is legitimate, but you can't count on that. It must be a discipline. You must pursue Him and to seek Him. So the sooner and the younger that you can realize that, the better. Thank you, mamn, I appreciate it. Thank you all right? Any closing thoughts alling ways people can support you or follow your work.
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Speaker 4: Sure it's relatable wherever you listen to your podcast or you can watch I've got a new book coming out.
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Speaker 2: But I haven't announced it yet, so I'm not.
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Speaker 4: Allowed to say what it's called, although I said it a few times tonight already, and I've got that other book, You're not Enough, and that's okay. I've also got if you are a woman. I don't even have to define that. Everyone in this room knows what that is. We have something called the Share the Arrows event that September twenty eighth in.
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Speaker 2: Dallas, Texas.
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Speaker 4: We've got Francesca Battistelli, Rosaria Butterfield, Alisa Childers, lots of other speakers, and it's Christian women coming together and empowering one another with the truth of God's word in the craziness.
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Speaker 2: Of our culture.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to Share the Arrows dot com and see more about that if you'd like. But thank y'all so much, great questions and great energy.
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Speaker 2: In the room too.
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Speaker 4: Thank y'all so much for welcoming us.
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Speaker 1: We will see you guys tomorrow if you please make plans to be there bright and early tomorrow. Have that godly patience. Let's do a show of force for President Trump. See you guys tomorrow morning.
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Speaker 10: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.

