Fixing the Fickle Base + AMA 280

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 00:00:05 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. 00:00:24 Speaker 1: College is a scam, everybody. 00:00:26 Speaker 3: You got to stop sending your kids to college. 00:00:27 Speaker 1: You should get married as. 00:00:28 Speaker 2: Young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 1: Here I am. 00:00:46 Speaker 4: Lord, use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 5: Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. 00:00:56 Speaker 2: Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show. a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. 00:01:17 Speaker 1: All right, everybody. Welcome, welcome. September 25th, 2026. We're here in Phoenix, Arizona, live at the YREFI studios. Blake has his own Mike flag. 00:01:28 Speaker 6: Yes. 00:01:28 Speaker 1: So we're making a Mike flag. 00:01:30 Speaker 4: With a bigger Y refi logo on it. 00:01:32 Speaker 1: It's true. Lots to get to today. Obviously, uh, everybody's talking about G and Trump, but we got an election in 39 days. I think we have a graphic right there and that's what we have our sites on here. 39 days until the midterms. And I just want to say, vote, fight, win, win. Don't trust the polls. When have you ever seen a poll that oversampled Republicans? You've never seen one because it doesn't happen. They're trying to convince me. Tell Rico's up five in Texas. I don't believe it. His internal polls have him slightly ahead, but it is a dogfight. It is a dogfight. We're going to take the basis temperature right now. Vibe check with the vase, with the base, with none other than Kane from Citizen Free Press, who joins us now. Kane, my friend, it's been too long. How you doing? 00:02:21 Speaker 3: Everything is good. 00:02:22 Speaker 7: Here in Bloomington, Bloomington is kind of hopping. There's a Friday night football game. We have Northwestern. Yeah, Northwestern, who's fresh off whooping Deion Sanders in Colorado. What was that, 41-7 last week? 00:02:40 Speaker 1: Brutal, just brutal. 00:02:41 Speaker 7: Yeah, a little side note. Can you imagine being a Colorado Buffaloes fan? You get all that hype two, three years ago, four years ago, when Deion comes to town, they paid him that massive contract. He was like, I'm going to recruit the best players. Everybody's going to come one. And even when he had his son, when he had Hunter, that amazing wide receiver deep, like they, they felt like they were a six and five team that could barely beat Colorado state. 00:03:07 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:03:08 Speaker 1: But Indiana's doing good. Indiana's doing well. 00:03:11 Speaker 8: Yes. 00:03:12 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:03:13 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:03:14 Speaker 7: So anyway, so that's a nice Friday night game. You know, Northwestern, they got a bunch of billionaires from that business school. 00:03:21 Speaker 3: They're like the Amos. They're like the Tuck School at Dartmouth. 00:03:25 Speaker 7: They got a bunch of billionaires, and so they can buy a team now. Like, their quarterback is the Michigan State quarterback from the last few years who's immensely talented. 00:03:36 Speaker 3: They're sort of like the new Vanderbilt. 00:03:38 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting. 00:03:39 Speaker 1: NIL has totally opened up. 00:03:41 Speaker 4: Football. 00:03:41 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the worst thing ever. The playoff and the NIL, it's like nothing, nothing makes sense anymore. You got, then you got Indiana who's winning national championships. I don't know what that's about. I don't know how you guys pulled that off. 00:03:52 Speaker 3: 19 straight brother. That was straight victories. 00:03:55 Speaker 1: That was one of the most miraculous stories in college football history is the fact that Indiana won last year. Absolutely. Shouldn't have happened, but it happened. Can you run citizen free press? You, you are Always on top of the news, citizenfreepress.com. You got to check it out. He's updating the stack all the time. Right now at the top of the stack is the fact that you're coming on with us. So that's excellent. So click on that link. Let's just brass tacks it. There is a lot of negativity out there, right? You've got Mark Halpern going viral. I don't know if you saw it. Mark, who always comes on the show. Well, he said out loud what he said on the show, which was that if you're in a Trump plus 15 district, You got to pull do run a poll because you might be in trouble. I mean, that's kind of where he's saying now. It looks like some of this is hitting red states more than it's hitting blue states. 00:04:50 Speaker 11: Right. 00:04:50 Speaker 1: So we might have like a weird map where we win. You know, we win Minnesota. We win Maine and we lose Kansas and Nebraska. You never know what could happen here. But tell us, give us give us a vibe check on base right now. 00:05:04 Speaker 7: Well, first, let me say I'm with you. From your cold open, Vivek has to win Ohio. I cannot stand Amy Acton's voice. If I have to listen to her for the next four years, I'll lose my freaking mind. 00:05:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously. 00:05:18 Speaker 1: We will not be back, Ohio. Yeah, it was awful. I'd never even seen that clip before. The team dug out. 00:05:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is awful. So, yeah, you said it, right? 00:05:27 Speaker 8: 39 days. 00:05:29 Speaker 3: Vote early. 00:05:29 Speaker 7: You know, Charlie was on this and it really helped in 2024. 00:05:33 Speaker 3: Get out and vote early. Get it out of the way. Get your friends. If you have early voting in your state, get out and do it. 00:05:40 Speaker 7: I think your your statement right before you toss it to me the first time, you know, on Tallarico and the polling. Look, this is you've seen my headlines in the stack. This is a pure turnout election. Whichever side can boost their turnout by 20 percent is going to is going to win. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: In terms of best case scenario versus worst case. 00:05:59 Speaker 7: I still believe that Abbott and Tallarique, excuse me, Abbott and Paxton are gonna win in Texas, but that's a weirdly close race. 00:06:09 Speaker 3: You were correct. 00:06:10 Speaker 7: I was before you mentioned Minnesota. I was going to bring up Michelle Tafoya. There was a poll. You know, Peggy Flanagan is a historically bad candidate. 00:06:18 Speaker 1: Yep. 00:06:19 Speaker 7: And I honestly believe that Michelle Tafoya is going to pull independence and win there. And I think that Sununu is going to beat Chris Pappas. And I'm a Greek. I'm a Greek guy, half Greek. But Pappas is guys with last name of Pappas rarely win political elections. 00:06:35 Speaker 9: So. 00:06:36 Speaker 3: So he's not going to take that. 00:06:38 Speaker 1: And that's what's so interesting about this. You know, Blake and I, before the show, were talking about basically there's been a mass demoralization campaign that's going on. You've got formerly conservative pundits basically endorsing against, you know, Republicans. You've got everybody saying how, you know, Trump has betrayed the base and all this. I mean, listen, it makes no sense in the world that if you are upset about Iran, which fine, I'm upset about Iran. You're... You're free to be upset about Iran. That is your American right. But to then stay out of the election, stay at home, or to hand power over to the people that want you dead, that mock Charlie's death, that want to take wealth from white people to give it to non-white people? 00:07:23 Speaker 4: It's like they have– they probably do. They entirely have amnesia for the reality they lived in five years ago. 00:07:28 Speaker 5: Totally. 00:07:29 Speaker 4: That you had to be worried a mob would show up and burn your downtown down, loot businesses, and politicians would say the rioters were right. that they were going to let in millions of people a year, wave them in with no process at all, any criminal, any gang member, anyone got to come in, no one's getting deported. They'll bring that day one if they have the ability to. If you're a young college guy feeling demoralized, guys, they hate young white men. They openly say it all the time. They still are saying it all of the time. If you go read that article about that, we were talking about on Thought Crime last night about the weird lesbian bar in Massachusetts. There are millions of people who it's still 2020 for them and they dream about it being 2020 again as soon as possible. 00:08:16 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:08:16 Speaker 1: So vibe check, Kane, everything that we just talked about, the demoralization campaign. 00:08:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:08:22 Speaker 1: Are you seeing it? Are you seeing it on your site or is it? 00:08:26 Speaker 8: No. Good. 00:08:27 Speaker 1: Good. I'm not. 00:08:29 Speaker 10: I'm not. 00:08:29 Speaker 7: I think people know that these polls. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: Are a game. They're rigged. 00:08:34 Speaker 7: Like you said, when was the last time they oversampled Republicans? 00:08:37 Speaker 1: Never. 00:08:39 Speaker 7: Our side doesn't even pick up the phone, doesn't like to, you know, and it's become a point of pride even on our side to like screw with the polls, with all the polling so much by just not being involved. 00:08:50 Speaker 3: I think everybody understands. 00:08:51 Speaker 7: Look, if people are reading sites like Citizen Free Press and watching your show, these are the part of the 10% that are politically involved. 00:08:59 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 00:09:00 Speaker 7: Like I'm always trying to sort of determine what percent is paying attention and what, and I really feel like it's only about 10% on our side and maybe 10% on the rest on their side. And then the other 80% kind of go with the flow. So no, people know that they understand that midterm elections generally are low turnout. So they know that good numbers are, can deliver, you know, we could shock the world, essentially, what Ali said. And I think people are excited- Yeah. And I think people are excited to do that. Like they know I've tried to put the polls up and I try to remind people that none of these polls matter, especially in a low turnout election. And I think people are excited to sort of shock, you know, kind of shock the mainstream media. And let's not forget how bad the polling has been starting in 2016. 00:09:49 Speaker 3: Like they've missed the whole. 00:09:51 Speaker 4: Totally. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: They've been five points off on the whole Trump. 00:09:53 Speaker 1: So, no. 00:09:54 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:09:56 Speaker 7: Quick reminder– or, I mean, a quick wrap-up would be, no, I say people are excited to get out there and vote. 00:10:03 Speaker 3: And, you know, I feel good, man. I feel okay. 00:10:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been messaging with David Marcus, who's a Fox News contributor. And, you know, he was he's been on the ground in Minnesota and he's like, listen, I'm not seeing any of this. I'm actually he's he thinks that we have a great shot in Minnesota. He says economic anxiety is being exaggerated, said polls have skewed blue for four consecutive cycles. And the craziness on the left is emerging. I certainly hope that that is the truth. 00:10:33 Speaker 5: Cain. 00:10:34 Speaker 1: We're talking about this mass demoralization campaign. I mean, it's so real. Where do you think this is coming from? Do you think it's legitimate or do you think it's astroturfed? 00:10:45 Speaker 7: I mean, I certainly don't think the sentiment is as negative. If you mean that part legitimate or astroturfed, it's astroturfed. I mean, look, first off, we all know this, right? Twitter and X, this is a world unto itself. So you can never, even politically, you can never take comments. For example, like the whole Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, Tyler Robinson thing. You have to understand, you know, that's this really small sliver of idiots on X. And the rest of Republicans sort of don't feel that way. And I think it's the same when it comes to Trump and Republicans here. You have all of this sort of Iran negativity on X. I don't really feel like that that has seeped into the conscience of of sort of typical Republicans, people like my mom who don't pay attention to the news. 00:11:39 Speaker 3: But, you know, you know. 00:11:41 Speaker 7: And so I think we can sort of, when you're in the weeds every day, you can sort of think that things are too monumental. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: So what's the big thing we're all seeing, right? 00:11:51 Speaker 7: There was that poll last week that showed that Trump, it was Harry Enten, I put it in the stack. It was Harry Enten talking about how Trump has the exact same numbers with whites without a college degree as he had in 2024, meaning he had no loss. So where have they been saying we're losing the numbers? They claim it's with independents And with Hispanic independents specifically. But then I saw another poll, I haven't actually, I'm going to post it today, that showed that with, like Harry Enten and CNN are saying that we're down 41 points or Trump has lost 41 points. with Hispanics since 2024. But I saw another poll that showed him that currently they're dead even on him, 50-50. So I honestly, I believe that it's a mass psyop. I think they do this every time. And even more so with Trump. I feel like it's this mass polling psyop and they use it to try to, you know, And look, last thing before I throw it back, I'm not saying we're going to win the House. 00:12:52 Speaker 3: The House is going to be tough. There's no doubt. But I'm confident on the Senate. 00:12:58 Speaker 7: I'm a little bit worried about Kansas because Marshall, you know, he had that stuff come out about his doctor billing and how he was going after people. And then in Alaska, you know, Mary, that Mary Peltola, she's a weird sort of tough candidate to beat. She was able to beat Sarah Palin to become congresswoman. And now she's pulling ahead. But I feel like, as I said before, those are countered by we're going to– Sununu's going to win in New Hampshire, and Tafoya is going to win in Minnesota. 00:13:29 Speaker 3: So I feel like we're going to hold the Senate and lose the House. 00:13:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of people that are still kind of on that train. I mean, listen, if we win Maine and Texas– And we either pick off Minnesota or New Hampshire. I mean, game over. We've got the Senate, right? I mean, you never know what's going to happen with Fetterman. But the point is, I can't stress this enough. Base turnout elections, which is what midterms are, are all about getting to the polls, getting people out. That's why we've invested so heavily in Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire. That's why we're going all in on those states. And we're also trying to build a red wall for 2028. But this is a base turnout election. So if you are the... our opponents, our political opponents, I'm going to not say enemy just for today. What would you do? You would try and demoralize the base to tell you, tell us there's no hope that it's so far gone. Don't even show up. And I'm not going to play that game. You don't fight because you know, you're going to win. You fight because it's the right thing to do. So if you are listening in the sound of my voice, you need to get out and make a plan, go volunteer, chase some ballots. I'm telling you this, this, uh, is still an open ball game. This is still an open question. What's going to happen in this midterms. And it's all going to depend on whether or not we have the presence of mind to still sacrifice and give something for this country. Or are we just going to let the people that hate us, that mock Charlie's death, that want abortion on demand, open borders, DI everything. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: Despise America. It is obvious in everything they do, everything they say, they are people who have deep, deep ill will for this country and its people. And you can be frustrated. You can say it's not 100% of what you wanted. It wasn't 100% of what you wanted in the first term for Trump either. And what did you get when a bunch of people sat at home and we ended up getting President Biden in 2020? 00:15:23 Speaker 1: Or when a bunch of ballots made their way to the ballot box. Whatever you want to say. 00:15:27 Speaker 4: But point is, easily could have been overcome. 00:15:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, listen, that is what we're up against. The Democrats really have become an existential threat to America as we know it. So there is one firewall to freedom still. There's one firewall... common sense of sanity and that unfortunately at times is the republican party but we're going to make it better that's the point you reform it from within you make it better election by election by election incrementally you don't burn it down and i know that that's a lot of the sentiment that we see from young people uh trust me we talk to our turning point kids all the time and there is a nihilism not necessarily with our kids but the kids that they know on campus the kids are going to school with There is nihilism, cynicism, and they seem to be willing to just give it to the next guy just as a point of frustration. But we've got to stay focused, guys. Go ahead, Ken. 00:16:15 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's so dangerous. What you're pointing out, it's so dangerous for people to have that attitude. I can see how it happens on young people who aren't necessarily politically active and maybe aren't really digging deep with headlines every day if they're seeing stuff on Apple News. Everything's being painted to make Republicans in the Trump administration look horrible. I mean— That's the game. It's from the moment Trump won in 2024. The media knows their job. And they immediately sort of turn on the switch where, all right, time to completely destroy this party so an independence no longer vote for him. 00:16:47 Speaker 6: And look. 00:16:49 Speaker 7: You know, there's all kinds of things that we can say to try to get people out. I shouldn't have really said, you know, that I thought we would lose the house because you know what, that's, that was just sort. 00:16:57 Speaker 3: Of me making a prediction. I'm into this whole underdog thing. 00:17:00 Speaker 7: Like I think under being the underdog drives turnout, as long as the base is not demoralized. And again, I'm seeing, I'm seeing no signs of it. You say from your personal experience, you guys aren't seeing, you know, so I feel like we can shock the world. We can hold the Senate and, And maybe we can win and squeak by in the House by two or three seats. I mean, we did get the with with all of the redistricting, we did get like a plus five there. 00:17:26 Speaker 3: So it's not out of the question at all. 00:17:28 Speaker 7: If you know, if if one extra person or hell, heck, if it's two extra people out of 10, we definitely win the House and Senate. If we can get one extra person that doesn't vote in normal midterms. We can turn this into a positive November for us. 00:17:45 Speaker 1: I love that, Kane. Let's embrace the underdog status here. Let's defy the odds. Let's shock the world. Everybody's got to show up. You've got to do your part. Go to tpaction.com slash 100. Chase 100 ballots. That's all. Listen, we give you the app. We give you the names. 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I mean, look, it's been a whirlwind of a couple of years. We also have our third kid. We have our first daughter. She's seven months. And My other kids are six and four. So in one sense, it's kind of cool to be in my home state. I live in Columbus. It's the middle of the state. I'll radiate out to a different part of rural Ohio or a different part. I'm going to the OU game in Athens tomorrow. 00:20:45 Speaker 4: There you go. 00:20:46 Speaker 6: So we'll do that, and then we'll come back and still put the kids to bed. So I think it's in some ways more grounded just in a family sense than a presidential campaign or something national. I will say that on the political side, it is far more localized to how you're going to improve people's lives, period. Okay, crime, reduction in the big cities. Ohio's got a lot of cities. People forget that. Urban crime, big deal. Affordability, how you're going to put more money into people's pockets. As a business guy, I'm passionate about bringing economic growth and just basic affordability and property tax reductions, those kinds of issues. And then education is something that is very different because the federal government can't do much by way of helping education. That is exclusively in the domain of states. And I think that that's what separates it from some of my initial experiences in politics or even before I entered politics, looking at federal issues, looking at macro issues. Here it's very much micro, what's on the ground, what's going to improve people's lives. And the fact that you can actually do it, and that's what I've been convinced of in the last year and a half, is that a governor can actually make a difference. in those areas where actions will speak louder than words. That's what gets me pretty excited to start the job. 00:21:57 Speaker 1: Well, I love that because there is no more local policy. I mean, maybe a mayor, but when you're governor, you are so close to your people. I mean, this is table issues, right? Putting money in people's pockets. So let's talk about this because you came up with a big new plan, big new announcement. I've seen it everywhere on social media about you're going to be reducing taxes, specifically when it comes to energy, gas, diesel, things like this. Tell us about this new plan you just rolled out. 00:22:27 Speaker 10: Yeah, sure. 00:22:27 Speaker 6: So it's kind of a big deal, particularly in Ohio, but other states can do this too. And then there's a federal component, which I'll come to at the end. So it's the gas tax. 00:22:36 Speaker 8: Okay. 00:22:36 Speaker 6: It's an invisible tax that people pay at the pump. It's a certain amount of cents in Ohio. It's 38 and a half cents per gallon. But for diesel, this is a big deal as well. It's 47 cents a gallon. diesel, as you probably well know, is at an all-time high, record high, never been higher in Ohio. And that is not the fault of Ohioans. Okay. So I'm running very much on an Ohioans first platform. So the question is, whatever's happening globally, that's not the fault of Ohioans here in our state. The 12 million people in our state need relief. What can we do? And the traditional MO is that you wait till you're elected. You have a campaign promise. You say, I'm going to do something then. I looked at the situation and say, you know what? We've got the legislature. We've got both branches. Republicans are in control. It's a Republican governor. There's a chance to make a difference now. Someone just needs to really, in some sense, light the catalyst, okay? 00:23:26 Speaker 1: So that's what I did. 00:23:27 Speaker 6: I got both chambers of the legislature together. I brought leaders together. I'm not elected yet, but I know all these guys. We brought them together and said, let's get the gas tax suspension passed. It's not rocket science because there's one state that actually does have an active gas tax suspension today. It's our neighboring state of Indiana. And if you drive across the border between Ohio and Indiana, last year gas prices were lower in Ohio. But after Indiana adopted this last year, in April of this year, I should say, it's now 47 cents a gallon lower in Indiana. That's a big deal. So my view is Ohio should at least be the second state that has one intact right now. And I got the legislators together. And what do you know? Next week, it looks like next week, they're going to pass that into law. even before I'm governor. And so for me, that's just a style of leadership point is actions speak louder than words. I think a lot of times Republicans will get elected on proclamations. I believe in actually getting the thing done, and this was a good example of that. And after we announced this, another positive came on is Bernie Moreno, my friend and senator from Ohio, said that he has a bill in the Senate, in the U.S. Senate, to say that any state that adopts a gas tax suspension, like Indiana or like Ohio after next week, hopefully we pass this year, he would actually have a bill to suspend the federal gas tax. So that's an extra double whammy of savings on top. And this is a big deal, right? When gas prices spike, there's two wars abroad. There's all kinds of other shortages and factors affecting it. But our job here in Ohio isn't to you know, proclaim to solve the world's problems. It's to solve problems in Ohio for Ohioans. And that's the way I want to lead the state. 00:25:03 Speaker 1: Well, how much would that actually result in savings for families? And the diesel thing cannot be overstated. We had a rancher call in from, I think it was from Oregon. And he was basically saying diesel, because it's so expensive, is putting him in a, I don't think he was going out of business, but it was really pressing him. And I can imagine in a state like Ohio with all that rural and agricultural land, that farmers are really feeling it. 00:25:26 Speaker 6: Farmers, truckers, it's a big deal. So sometimes the gas prices have been higher. They haven't been this high since 2022, but still, it did reach this height under Biden under 22. The diesel price spike, I think, is a double whammy on top of it. And so you asked how much are they going to save? There's both the direct savings, but then there's also a lot of indirect savings that are arguably even a bigger deal. So on gas, look, we set a 90-day suspension. That's a couple hundred bucks, a few hundred bucks in families' pockets on average for family. Let's just say it's a standard ordinary family with two drivers in the house to take that as the standard case. You're talking about a few hundred bucks. And that is maybe the difference between comfortably buying Christmas presents for your family over Christmas or having to think twice about it. And to me, that's a big deal ahead of the holiday season just for ordinary families. Then you look at farmers. This is ahead of harvest season. It's a big deal for farmers. That's a big deal for the ag community in particular. And then on diesel, let's talk about, let's just say the standard trucker, independent trucker. This would be close to $ 2, 000 in savings just over the next 90 days. And again, ahead of the holidays, they have their own families too. That's a big, big deal. And those are just the direct savings. Well, people don't know a lot about it. And it's not people's job to know this. It's the job of leaders of the state to know this. Ordinary citizens can't be expected to be paying attention to this stuff. They've got jobs of their own. But here's a fact that you're probably not aware of is that when you look at grocery prices or prices at the shelf, Everyone sees those have gone up. The traditional wisdom in both parties is there isn't much a state can do about that other than boneheaded stuff like Mamdani saying you're going to have state-run grocery stores. That's idiotic. It's socialist solutions that aren't going to help anybody. But the traditional wisdom is outside of those zany socialist solutions, there's nothing that a state leader could do. That's actually not right. So you look at this diesel gas tax suspension on the diesel side, it's about 1%. This is a conservative estimate. 1% of the total cost of everything you buy off the shelf, including a grocery, is actually attributable to the diesel that was burned to get it there. So then you're talking about an extra couple hundred dollars or at least an extra margin above and beyond the direct savings ahead of the holidays, ahead of Christmas, ahead of buying gifts for your family, ahead of Thanksgiving, having families over for Americans across this great state. 00:27:45 Speaker 4: That's a big deal. 00:27:46 Speaker 6: And the fact that we're able to do that even before we're elected is to say that OK, we can't solve all the problems at once. That's not an excuse for stopping short of solving any of them. 00:27:56 Speaker 8: Right. 00:27:57 Speaker 6: And I do think that it's a culture I want to see in the Republican Party. Let our actions speak louder. 00:28:02 Speaker 1: I think that's great. And by the way, I'm telling you, you know, midterms are base turnout elections. 00:28:08 Speaker 5: Right. 00:28:08 Speaker 1: And you're you're most adamant supporters, your most passionate supporters. This is direct relief to the farmers, to the ranchers, you know, so up and down. And by the way, 300 bucks for gas. That's going to feed a family, maybe for a week, two weeks, you know? 00:28:22 Speaker 6: It's a big difference. It might be the difference between, you know, going on vacation over Thanksgiving, over the holidays, and maybe the difference between getting your Christmas gifts for your Your kids, your nieces, your nephews, that's a big, big difference this time of year. Harvest season for farmers coming up, huge relief. And the other thing I would say, you mentioned sort of the base turnout pieces. I mean, there's the core economic issues. There's also something really important in Ohio this cycle that nobody's even paying attention to, Andrew, which we don't even. 00:28:49 Speaker 5: Talk about enough. 00:28:50 Speaker 6: So Ohio has a constitutional amendment on the ballot this November. President Trump actually pushed for it. I wrote a piece, again, calling on our legislature at the start of the summer. I said, guys, let's get this on the ballot. And then thanks, you know, credit to them. 00:29:06 Speaker 4: They listened. 00:29:07 Speaker 6: They got it on the ballot. President Trump pushed them to do the same. They got on the ballot issue three, okay, which is effectively a constitutional amendment that would say you have to have photo ID to vote in Ohio elections, putting it in the state constitution. So that makes it reversal proof. And in a year where we couldn't get the SAVE Act through in Washington, D.C., it's just a perfect contrast and example of what you can do at the state level, whether it's economics, gas tax and the federal government can follow, or whether it's actually putting it in a state level. state constitution where maybe they pass the SAVE Act in the future, but a state can lead the way and let the federal government piggyback rather than the other way around. And I know a lot of folks, independents, even conservatives are often frustrated with what's happening in Washington, D.C., I say let's fix it at the state level. And the way I'm trying to lead, even before I'm elected in Ohio, working with the legislature to get issue three on the ballot, working with our legislature to get this gas tax suspension passed next week, is to lead through action in ways that sort of shows leaders in Washington, D.C., that this can be done. If a state like Ohio does it, then hopefully other states and even the federal government can really follow suit rather than usually get stuck in. 00:30:21 Speaker 4: The mire of doing nothing, you know? 00:30:23 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:30:24 Speaker 1: No, well said. Vivek Ramaswamy is a dear friend of Charlie's, and Charlie really believed in your political talents, Vivek, so honored to have you here. Vivek, I've got to play some clips. I have not listened to Amy Acton's actual voice very much, and I'm not asking you to chime in here, but I'm just saying, guys, Ohio. Don't do this to yourself. Don't do that for four. You can't. Nobody for four years. Place up five. 00:30:56 Speaker 13: This is a movement of everyday people who are going to tell Mr. 00:31:01 Speaker 8: Ramaswami in no uncertain terms. 00:31:04 Speaker 1: We are telling this once and for all. 00:31:07 Speaker 13: You cannot buy this state. You cannot buy Ohio. You can't buy us. You can't buy us. You can't buy us. You can't buy us in Ohio. 00:31:25 Speaker 1: That is the end of this. 00:31:27 Speaker 4: That was so ghastly. That sound was so grating, so screechy that it caused a computer to crash, which I don't blame him. He might have thought, I need to get. 00:31:36 Speaker 1: Out of here. It's going to be so bad. Delete it. 00:31:39 Speaker 4: Bail. Eject. Eject. To paraphrase George Orwell, if you want a vision of the future, the nightmare future, imagine that voice screeching at you forever or at least the next eight years in Ohio. Ohio, Buckeyes, do not do this to yourself. Oh, man. 00:31:56 Speaker 1: And that was the most perfect timing right before her voice starts screeching across the airwaves. Boom. He hit the eject button. See, I don't even think that was a technical glitch. I think that just happened because Vivek's been. 00:32:13 Speaker 4: Exposed to this too much. While we wait for him to get back, it really does feel we're getting this ominous type of left winger. And they're, they kind of want to export this model to state after state. We of course have our own governor in Arizona, Ms. Hobbs. We have like a Mickey Cheryl off in New Jersey. We have the governor of Virginia. 00:32:32 Speaker 1: Uh, Schellenberger, uh, Spanberger. 00:32:35 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:32:35 Speaker 4: Spanberger. Like just very, you know, shrill, very mix of like HR lady and Dolores Umbridge. 00:32:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's, I mean, this just, uh, this is, uh, It just keeps going here. She's doing her best Kamala Harris impression. Oh, no. 00:32:53 Speaker 8: I've said over and over to you that every one of us matters and every day matters. But today is the day that matters. Today is the day that we have to batten down those hatches. 00:33:11 Speaker 4: You weren't kidding. That really was a Kamala. 00:33:13 Speaker 1: No, the word salad. 00:33:14 Speaker 4: She would sound a little bit closer to crying. 00:33:17 Speaker 1: We have a vague. 00:33:18 Speaker 4: The vague. We know what you did there. 00:33:20 Speaker 1: We're on you. 00:33:21 Speaker 4: You bailed to avoid that clip. 00:33:23 Speaker 1: Your ears were. 00:33:25 Speaker 6: I got to protect my sanity, gentlemen. You know, you got to do what you have to do. 00:33:30 Speaker 1: You got to do what you got to do. I got to do what I have to do to protect Ohio, man. Listen, listen, I, I, we, I, did you hear the last clip? Or did you not hear that? 00:33:40 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I did, yeah. 00:33:41 Speaker 1: I need you to– you've been exposed to more Amy Acton clips than I have. I just– I was hoping you could translate what that– You. 00:33:49 Speaker 6: Know, I'm not fluent in that language, but I do know where that language leads Ohio is it leads Ohio down the tubes, and that's not where we're going to go. 00:33:56 Speaker 1: Well, I wish you would debate you. I wish you would debate you. Here's a fun clip for you. 00:34:02 Speaker 6: Not for my sake, but for the sake of the voters, I wish so. 00:34:04 Speaker 1: I know, I know. You've got to take one for the team there. It's a huge sacrifice. Sot 6. 00:34:09 Speaker 11: Dr. 00:34:10 Speaker 5: Amy Acton, why have you refused to debate your opponent for that Kramaswami? Why have you refused to debate your opponent for that Kramaswami? 00:34:19 Speaker 9: No pictures, no interviews. 00:34:21 Speaker 5: Dr. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: Acton. 00:34:22 Speaker 5: I said no pictures, no interviews. I said no pictures, no interviews. No pictures, no interviews. 00:34:31 Speaker 3: No pictures, no interviews. No pictures, no interviews. 00:34:34 Speaker 12: What's that for? 00:34:35 Speaker 5: You're done? 00:34:35 Speaker 8: Are you done? 00:34:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good. 00:34:38 Speaker 6: Wow. 00:34:39 Speaker 1: Is that how your security acts when people try to ask you questions? My gosh. 00:34:44 Speaker 6: If that were a Republican candidate, this would be a media firestorm. 00:34:48 Speaker 1: Look at that. Look at that video. 00:34:50 Speaker 6: Just judge for yourself. It doesn't require further commentary. If that were a Republican, this would be probably a national scandal. There's so much in this campaign. She'd be the next version of a caricature. And yet, you know, the media is doing everything they can to protect a candidate who's not equipped to do this job. And the way I look at it is, you know, we're going to disagree on policy issues, Republicans and Democrats. We should have vigorous debate. But you should at least defend your positions before the people. If you don't have the capacity to do that. And this is a woman who, you know, has always proclaimed the fact that she's a doctor. She quit before she saw patients. Then she claimed to be the health director during COVID, locked down the economy, quit when it came time to work with Republicans again. to at least work on reopening it. Now as a candidate, she quits on the debates. This is somebody, she just does not have what it takes to be even any executive position, let alone the governor of the seventh largest state, both by population and economy. It's worse than Biden. Even he showed up to debate, although, you know, maybe that didn't go so well for him. 00:35:51 Speaker 5: Maybe. 00:35:51 Speaker 6: But I think that's what they're afraid of in this situation. 00:35:54 Speaker 1: Well, this is crazy. 00:35:55 Speaker 6: If you can't debate, you can't lead the state. 00:35:56 Speaker 1: It's nuts. No, it's. By the way, this is my feeling on this is, first of all, the way that her security guard interacted with a guy just trying to ask a question. Simple question. Yeah, that's suspect to me. OK, because then she had this other interaction. where they were trying to claim that some guy tried to assassinate her. And then the local prosecutor was like, we looked at the footage. There's nothing to charge this guy with at all. So now it's a trend, Vivek. And if you have your people that are closest to you behaving like that, that comes straight from the top. That's a leadership issue right there. But you mentioned COVID. Amy Acton cried on the job, once found curled up on the floor before COVID meeting during tenure as Ohio health officials. That's according to staffers, okay? That's from the Washington Examiner right there. So there's, like, all kinds of stuff going on with this gal. And then when you try and call it out, this is what happens. Sot 8. 00:36:53 Speaker 8: I have received 60 million in attack ads against me since March, not on the ideas of the day, but on lies and hate and chaos and vitriol. I am asking for my opponent to stop this fringe group of people, um. 00:37:11 Speaker 8: And the ads that have been shown in fact-check to after fact-check to be wrong. This is what incites this, and it's very, very important that leaders understand that their words matter. 00:37:27 Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Vivek, final minute to you. 00:37:30 Speaker 6: You know what's hilarious about this, Andrew? She complains about dark money. She's got a bunch of Democrat dark money propping her up. 00:37:36 Speaker 1: She does. 00:37:36 Speaker 6: Running attack ads on me that are totally slanderous, totally made up. And even have been talking about fact-checked. I mean, some of these were so bad, even some of these liberal outlets had to at least call that out to preserve an iota of credibility. They even said that's false. But her strategy is complain about dark money while using it, complain about false attack ads while actually being the one who's lying on air. The only person in this campaign to do it is her. And yet, refuses to show up on a debate stage, which I think should tell the whole story, is they want to hide. And my view is, I mean, look, there's nobody, there's two people other than you and me, Andrew, who care about our friend Charlie Kirk. We lost Charlie, our country lost Charlie. 00:38:11 Speaker 4: What did we want? 00:38:12 Speaker 6: What did he want? Open political dialogue through peace, right? Peaceful, open debate. Vigorous, but open nonetheless. And now these people who will preach about democracy are unwilling to actually practice what they preach. At minimum, Amy Acton should show up, and if not, she needs to leave the stage, and we need to do this right. 00:38:31 Speaker 1: I totally agree. Everybody, get behind Vivek. We need him as governor. Support this man. Vivek, thanks for taking the time. Any question you have, whatever it might be, we are here to take your questions. You can be a part of this hour every week at members.charliekirk.com, members.charliekirk.com. Become a subscribing member. Join the community. You are near and dear to us. You help keep the lights on. You help keep us motivated, keep us accountable. So we love it. We love this hour. It's our favorite hour of the week. Most weeks, I would say. Most weeks. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Join up today. We really appreciate you guys. And by the way, I'm still laughing about it. The team was laughing about how Vivek's camera went out right when we played. 00:39:19 Speaker 4: It was just so perfectly timed. Truly perfectly timed. I almost made him. 00:39:22 Speaker 1: Listen to that. 00:39:23 Speaker 5: Ohio will not be bought. 00:39:26 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's heard it. 00:39:27 Speaker 4: All right. 00:39:28 Speaker 1: So we've got your questions. Let's get into it. Jean-Claude, welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself. Welcome to the show. 00:39:36 Speaker 5: Hi, can you guys hear me? 00:39:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it. Hey, welcome. 00:39:40 Speaker 10: This is a question I always wanted to ask Charlie. I've got a friend who is a huge fan of Nick Fuente's. And lately he's been slamming Charlie because he was free speech, quote-unquote, but he wouldn't interact with Fuentes or his supporters. Obviously, I disagree with Fuentes for all the Jew hate stuff, but I just want a good response to give him. I've never exactly known what to say. 00:40:05 Speaker 1: So your friend has been slamming Charlie for not debating him? Is that what you mean? 00:40:11 Speaker 10: Yeah, because he said he was free speech, but he wouldn't debate him or interact with any. 00:40:17 Speaker 1: Of his supporters. Free speech is one of the most often misunderstood concepts. 00:40:21 Speaker 4: People mess that up. I can speak to this. In fact, one of the things I talked with Charlie a lot about was he would get asked about this, and he was sometimes unsure, how should I answer this, because he knew it was something where you wanted to be precise. And I think it's, first of all, on the free speech question, what you can push back there on is freedom of speech is about whether The government can censor you or ban you from speaking. And I will note, Charlie never called for Nick Fuentes to be banned from Rumble as far as I know. I don't think he ever called for him to be banned from X or anything like that. He 100% believed in his right to say whatever he wants. when you're demanding a debate with Charlie, you're demanding to share a platform with Charlie. And that's obviously not everyone in the world has the right to do that. AmFest is a big platform. We're not going to have a radical transgenderism advocate come out. We're not going to have a advocate for communism come out unless some special situation would justify it. And it's Charlie's right to say I'm also not going to have Nick Fuentes do that. Now, why would he reach that decision? I think An important thing to note is Charlie was perfectly willing to engage with people who had views different from his own, views that he considered even too far to the right of his own. I think what made Charlie specifically not like Nick is that Nick showed a lot of evidence of being a... you could say a bad faith actor or a very unstable actor that Nick would oscillate to saying, we actually all need to elect Democrats now to, you know, MAGA's 100% dead and then swings back to the right. It was very performative what he would do. And he also, he was very much an ankle biter on Charlie, that he saw Charlie as a famous person that he could harass and bother, that he could show up to our events and make trouble, have his supporters show up to our events and make trouble. Notably, there was the Grouper War where these, People would show up at Q & A events and they would just read off the same question over and over again that Charlie had answered many times before just to mess up the event. And when you have someone do that, when they're basically being a troll, when they're not showing, oh, I want to debate issues with you, I just want to mess up your events, I think Charlie said, this is not someone who's engaging with us in good faith. 00:42:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with a lot of that. I would say as well, you know, Charlie saw himself as a coalition builder. So he was deeply, deeply concerned with the health of the coalition and making sure that the right ideas were taking root and the right ideas were being, you know, allowed to flourish basically and making sure the bad ideas were not taking root. 00:42:58 Speaker 5: Right. 00:42:59 Speaker 1: And when you choose to debate somebody, you're there is a part when you're a coalition builder. I think debating Fuentes is just fine for some people. But for Charlie, I think it was the appropriate choice because you're essentially trying to make sure that you're not legitimizing certain perspectives that Charlie felt were beyond the pale or outside of what should be considered mainstream conservative thought. What's interesting, I will say, as an aside, and it is one of the more surprising developments. 00:43:30 Speaker 4: A great irony. 00:43:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great irony of the time since 9-10 is that You know, Fuentes, I'll give him his due. He's actually made some, I think, right calls when it comes to Candace and the conspiracies. He's been on point on a lot of this stuff. And so I just want to say at least that. He's actually sort of become, I think, disenchanted with some of the low IQ Jew hate slop. I don't know where he's going or what his trajectory ultimately will be, but I want to make sure that when people start making sense and when they start speaking reasonably, that that we say so, and we're not afraid to say so. I'm not afraid to say so. But I think before Charlie was killed, to Blake's point, there was a lot of trolling, a lot of bad faith engagement. And again, you're thinking about the health of a coalition. Charlie was a statesman. Charlie was a coalition builder. And that is a different hat you wear than just a content creator or just a entertainer. And so it comes with different obligations. And Charlie was always looking to the higher calling, looking to what his greatest use and purpose was. And so I don't think that all has anything to do with free speech. Again, to Blake's point, to underscore, underline, put in all bold, all caps, free speech is about can the government criminalize your speech? Can they silence you? Charlie never wavered on that. We will never waver on that. We are free speech absolutists when it comes to that. When somebody gets kicked out of our events, we would get accused of being anti-free speech and all this stuff. Well, listen, it's our event, our house. We get to determine who's allowed in and who's not if you're causing problems. Listen, we take crap from both sides. A lot of people say we let too many people in at our events, for example. Can't believe you let so-and-so in. I can't believe you let that. And then I can't believe you kick so-and-so out. So you get it from both sides, but it's fundamentally a misunderstanding of what free speech is. Because, again, nobody's asking to criminalize free speech. Nobody's asking to deplatform people. Nobody's asking for any of that. But when it comes to your event, your house, you get to say who you let in. 00:45:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to let in. And, again, it's that he repeatedly had evidence of him being a hostile actor, a person who's just self-aggrandizing in a pr sort of way and i think that really bothered charlie a lot on top of the fact that he's doing it with issues where charlie thought he went way too far that nick went is a guy who in his streams has repeatedly said this or that it's it's a mistake to focus on that problem because you're not focusing on the big problem which is the jews yeah and well anytime someone was going to say the problem is the jews in that sort of way charlie just he lost his mind at. 00:46:12 Speaker 1: It well and i would say last thing i'll say and we got to take a break here um You know, in general, we we just disagree and we reject accelerationism. And that is a movement that I think Blake mentioned it earlier, where you say I'm so disenchanted with Republicans and the GOP and all the stuff that I'm going to vote Democrat. We're going to show them we're going to prove to them, teach them a lesson they won't forget. And they're going to reform. I just don't think that's a realistic political strategy. I don't think it's ever been proven true. I think you're handing the keys of the car over to a bunch of people that want to drive it off a cliff. I want nothing to do with that movement. I consider those people to be my political opponents. They are on a different political project than we are. And frankly, we don't have any time for it, and it's a distraction, and that's where we're at. Hopefully that was a good answer for you. Yeah, thank you so much. 00:47:01 Speaker 4: Did you get everything you needed? 00:47:03 Speaker 10: Yep, thank you. 00:47:04 Speaker 5: Awesome. 00:47:04 Speaker 1: All right, God bless you, man. 00:47:06 Speaker 4: Do we want to play this clip that no one's on? 00:47:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. Okay, so we were just asked— Okay, go ahead, bud. 00:47:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were asked— how we felt about Nick Fuente's question, what our previous questioner should tell his friend, who says, is attacking Charlie over free speech. Turns out, about a year ago, Charlie was asked by a groiper directly why he wouldn't debate him, and he gave a pretty good answer. So let's play it. Clip 14. 00:47:28 Speaker 14: Hi, Charlie. As a TPUSA chapter founder and president, I've seen firsthand how the tide is turning among young conservatives. I say if you truly believe in open debate in the marketplace of ideas, will you ever be willing to debate Nick Fuentes or will you wait until his movement forces you to adopt his talking points as we've seen already? 00:47:48 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. 00:47:49 Speaker 2: I personally do not give a platform to bad faith actors. And I had a hole open about this. And by the way, a really important thing is not to lie and to not bear false testimony. 00:48:03 Speaker 9: It's fine. 00:48:04 Speaker 2: I'll answer your question. You know, you said, oh, you know, I want to have a question. about turning point events. And you obviously lied about your question. Doesn't surprise me because you have deceit, but you know what? Honestly, I'm asked that question all the time. I don't platform trolls and I don't platform and I don't discuss people or don't debate with people that are not good faith actors. 00:48:26 Speaker 4: And, um, they can. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: They can keep on yelling at how successful we are and our big events and well over a thousand people employees, but a lot of jealousy out there. We build, they complain, we succeed. 00:48:44 Speaker 5: We win. 00:48:45 Speaker 2: They blame the Jews. 00:48:46 Speaker 1: Thank you. Next question. 00:48:48 Speaker 4: So I think that, that gets out a lot of what we were talking about. I'm glad that we said that off just going off memory. And it was very, it was very good. 00:48:56 Speaker 1: I will say, I just, I do just want to give credit that, that, uh, you know, I, Listen, they were enemies in life. There's no doubt about that. But Fuentes has actually been very respectful on some level to Charlie after death. And, you know, I hope he continues on that path. And I have no idea where he's going, but I just want to I just want to be very clear that I appreciate people. 00:49:18 Speaker 4: He's been better in the past year than he was before. 00:49:20 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:49:21 Speaker 4: I will say that. All right. Our next question, Abby, unmute yourself. And what's your question? 00:49:26 Speaker 9: Good Friday morning. Congratulations to Blake for his mic flag. Finally. Yes. I wanted to give first a shout out to your studio team. Whoever picks the songs when you return from your break, you guys are awesome. 00:49:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, Caboose. Caboose is the man. 00:49:42 Speaker 9: Yes, I knew they had a nickname. And I wanted to thank Andrew and Blake, you two, for the insight you gave me last week and for getting Byron on the show Monday. It was really helpful to me. 00:49:52 Speaker 1: Wait, were you the one that asked the question about Florida? 00:49:56 Speaker 4: Yes, that was me. 00:49:57 Speaker 10: Oh, yeah. 00:49:57 Speaker 1: So you inspired that, by the way. You have yourself to thank for us getting Byron on the show because I was like, yeah, I was like, hold on. Let's look at Florida. Let's look deeper because, you know, we're in Arizona. We're we're Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire. So we we spent a lot of time focusing on those states and looking into the polling, looking to get out the vote and, you know, how everything's developing. And obviously we're aware of the other states. But I really candidly, I wasn't thinking that hard about Florida. Look into it. It's a dogfight. I mean, you know, it's crazy, too, is he's actually Byron's doing not as well in the panhandle as he should. And I think that's a complete disgrace. We've got to fix that. And I don't know if it's because he's black. I genuinely don't know what's going on. But Matt Gaetz won his district, which was Florida 1, 74 points. He got 74% of the vote. And so I believe that the panhandle is going to come through. Maybe we got to do some messaging. Maybe we got to get them out there campaigning together or something. But like, you know, so I'm bullish on Byron. So anyways, please, I cut you off. 00:51:02 Speaker 9: I had a question about the freedom ticket. So I heard Tyler say that shows people who need to, like what you need to vote for the candidates. But I was wondering, does it show why? Does it have any sources for the candidates explaining the morals, their views, reasons you should vote for him or them? Because I'm making my own voter guide and I found it challenging to gather information on certain candidates. So I was curious on how TP Action made theirs. 00:51:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would say that they... listen we just launched this thing and it was so popular that it it darn near crashed the site uh that's an actual true story so i i think the answer is hopefully eventually right so we want to we we have big plans for these freedom tickets to roll them out all across the country obviously we're starting in our three key states nevada arizona new hampshire and then we're going to roll it out to the swing States. Hopefully we'll get it even beyond there. But I sent this, I sent your note already just now to the turning point action team and said, you know, this is a good point. We need to sort of back up why we, we believe in these things and, and explain it to people that maybe have legitimate questions. I can tell you that the first step is just getting it out there and saying out loud, Hey, these people align with our values. So if you like what we do, you're probably going to like what they do. And again, our mission in every race up and down the ballot is to endorse, get behind, support the most conservative electable representative in that district, in that state for that race. So we're always looking, hey, who can actually win? Who has the resources? Who has the good ideas? And who's the most conservative that we can get across the finish line? So that's how we look at it. And we interview all these people. There's a whole process to get an endorsement. So You can rest assured that there's been a lot of due diligence, but I agree it would be helpful if we had some supporting documentation for that. 00:52:58 Speaker 10: I see. 00:52:59 Speaker 1: Does that help? 00:53:00 Speaker 9: Thank you very much. 00:53:00 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:53:01 Speaker 9: It does. 00:53:02 Speaker 4: All righty. I think we can get our next one in. Don, unmute yourself, and what's your question? 00:53:07 Speaker 12: Hi, guys. I also want to congratulate Blake on finally getting the flag. 00:53:13 Speaker 4: It's so nice on there. 00:53:17 Speaker 1: YRefi is getting some free plugs here. 00:53:19 Speaker 5: I love it. 00:53:20 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:53:20 Speaker 4: It's getting a free plug. And for the visually impaired, it's more visible. Yes, it is. It's bigger. Bigger logo. 00:53:28 Speaker 1: We had to get a new contractor for it, a new vendor. 00:53:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. That's how much we care about promoting our. 00:53:35 Speaker 1: Why refire the best? Those guys are awesome. So, yeah, what's your question? One minute left. 00:53:40 Speaker 12: Okay. The local news has said there's a new game out. That people, for people to drive the wrong way on the highway, and they're calling it lunatic. Want to know if you'd heard of it, and if you knew whether it was. 00:54:00 Speaker 4: I did hear about this. Someone got arrested for this in Arizona yesterday. Apparently, this guy got pulled over, literally was driving the wrong way down Interstate 40, and he told the police, yeah, I'm playing lunatic. You drive the wrong way down the highway for... Kicks and giggles. I'm a bit of a lunatic and authoritarian about this sort of thing. That if you're going to recklessly endanger people's lives on that level, like, okay, that's a fun game. 10 years in prison. Play again. 00:54:29 Speaker 8: No, no, no, no. 00:54:30 Speaker 1: I would say maybe longer years in prison. 00:54:32 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:54:32 Speaker 8: Okay. 00:54:32 Speaker 1: If you're that, if you're that dumb and that reckless that you think that's fun. 00:54:38 Speaker 4: Can't let someone plead this to a misdemeanor. 00:54:39 Speaker 1: No, exactly. I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend. And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage. It was what was behind the scenes. That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize. He didn't put it in a box. He lived it out loud. It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day. Charlie Kirk, American martyr, captures that heart. This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested. I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together. Go to angel.com slash Kirk. That's angel.com slash Kirk. Become an Angel Guild member. Watch Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, and help bring more stories of faith, courage, and conviction to audiences around the world. I thought we were going to have all of these, like, President Xi questions and CCP and AI. No, no. 00:55:55 Speaker 4: Instead, it's apparently maniacs drive down the highway. 00:55:58 Speaker 1: Exactly. By the way, if you're a maniac driving down the highway playing a game, it's not a game. That's a crime, and you need to go away to prison for a very long time. And you know why? We need to send a message to all the other Looney Tunes out there that might do the same, that if you do this, we're serious, we mean business, you're going away. And you're going to go away for a long time. 00:56:16 Speaker 4: I'm like a totalitarian on driving under the influence, for example. I know a lot of people who, like, they get mad and they're like, this is punished too bad. No, I'm like, you were caught driving drunk. Like, you are never driving a car again. 00:56:27 Speaker 6: Thanks. 00:56:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, what about if they had full self-driving mode with Tesla? 00:56:32 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. 00:56:33 Speaker 8: Like, what? 00:56:33 Speaker 4: You can deactivate that stuff. No, no. These people, bad decisions should have consequences. 00:56:37 Speaker 1: I totally agree. 00:56:38 Speaker 4: Our next guy is Bob. Unmute yourself. And what is thine question? 00:56:43 Speaker 11: Yeah. 00:56:43 Speaker 10: Hey, guys. 00:56:44 Speaker 1: Howdy. 00:56:45 Speaker 11: I'm wondering what is being done to ensure that the voting machines themselves will be tallying votes honestly and accurately this election. Seems like after the last two elections, only after the last two elections do we have accounts of how the machines themselves or the software from the companies who make the voting machines like Dominion Voting, they change the actual votes for Trump to be called for votes for his opponent. Can you please address whatever you know about this? 00:57:11 Speaker 4: Well, an interesting thing, actually, is did you know Dominion voting doesn't exist anymore? 00:57:15 Speaker 1: Didn't they get bought by a conservative? 00:57:16 Speaker 4: They got bought by a former Republican. He was the director of elections in, I think, St. Louis. Let me see it here. 00:57:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:57:25 Speaker 7: Yes. 00:57:26 Speaker 4: Scott Leyendecker. He purchased Dominion and renamed it Liberty Vote. So it's actually if you go to the Wikipedia page for Dominion, it is a was besides just changing ownership. One thing a lot of people flagged is that Dominion was actually headquartered in Canada. That felt strange to people that we'd have this big voting machine company that's not American. It is now an American-owned and headquartered fully company. So to the extent those machines are still used, it is now an American company owned by a former Republican official. That doesn't guarantee everything is good, of course, but I think it raises fewer red flags to people as a result. 00:58:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and I mean. 00:58:08 Speaker 1: We don't talk about it a ton, but I mean, you will remember smart Matic does have sort of Venezuelan origins and I'll just say, okay, I'm going to, you know, I don't need to go into great detail here, but we did just, you know, arrest Maduro and we are now more in cooperation with Venezuela than ever before. So I can't say that there has been, you know, some court order that there's been some case, but to Blake's point, Dominion is now controlled by different people, and Smartmatic, to the extent that there might be anything there, I'm just saying that's one piece of news that may be working in our favor. Here's what else I'll say. If you are concerned about the way that these voting systems are working, and by the way, just to be very, very clear, if I was king of the world for a day, I would have same-day voting, all paper ballots, voter ID, signature verification, all the things, okay? Unfortunately, since 2000, we went in this whole other direction where we... decided, hey, let's do voting month. And some places have voting six weeks. And there's electronic balloting and all this stuff. I hate all of it. Okay. And I am very uncomfortable with trusting some of these processes. You know, because even with the Democrats, this was interesting. During the Democrat primaries, remember, I think it was Michigan. Could have been Wisconsin. 00:59:29 Speaker 6: Okay. 00:59:30 Speaker 1: This just happened where there was like a thumb drive that, you know, didn't get the actual votes on it. It was a tally thumb drive. And so it delayed the final count in one of these counties. I mean, so here's the thing. I think that there are shenanigans in our election. Every single thing we can do to get rid of a loophole where they can exploit and game, we need to get rid of it 100 percent. So I will, you know, that's kind of where I'm at. And if you want to be a part of that, you should sign up to be an observer, a poll watcher, right? So you're appointed by a county chair in Arizona, for example, you have to be a registered voter. Any registered voter of that county can do it. Up to three people representing a nonpartisan candidate or a ballot measure committee. So these are important roles. Precinct committee is a really important role. And then being a poll watcher is a really important role. So If you're worried about this stuff, please take action and do something about it on your local level. We need as many of those people as we can. 01:00:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess what I would always say, because I know this comes up a lot, keep in mind the best policing we have on voting machines is both parties are allowed to audit these machines. There are other third-party audits of these machines. I know a lot of people fixate on them. Every election there's a story where this precinct or this county originally gets their vote, inverted. There is that thumb drive stuff. There's stuff out there. What I will say is to the extent suspicious stuff goes on in our elections, I don't think it's primarily coming through messed up voting machines. And an easy way to see that is just, I don't think you see a dramatic pattern or rupture between places that use machines and places that, or places that use different brands. I mean, I'm too trusting, but the place that you get dubious stuff is for example, California's level of ballot harvesting where any person can go to your door, help you fill out your ballot, and then they can turn it in on your behalf, and there's basically no cap to how many people can do it. That's inducing a ton of friction. That's where you get, oh, 50 homeless voters are all registered to one Starbucks. They're remarkably good at voting. Is that really a credible vote from a person who knows what they're doing? We all roll our eyes at it. We know there's a ton of bogus stuff that goes on, or there's been incredibly shady stuff where Everyone's casting a ballot in a senior care home where they have a lot of them have Alzheimer's. 01:01:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:01:54 Speaker 4: Bad behavior like that. That is where the left looks for their opportunity to get. 01:01:58 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:01:58 Speaker 1: But I hate that this is even a thing. For example, this was so I'm getting the story details. So it was August 11th. It was the Wisconsin election where this happened. The city of Milwaukee Election Commission staff downloaded data from high speed tabulators at central count onto nine USB flash drives to take the absentee results of to the county courthouse. Five of the nine drives received an audit log instead of actual vote tallies because the wrong button was pressed. That's what we're told. So this delayed the official count. David Crowley and Francesca Hong. Remember, Francesca Hong was the crazy lunatic DSA candidate. She lost, but David Crowley's no better, candidly. So anyways, Crowley ultimately won the state by 0.5%, about 3,200 votes in The race was called around 2.30 a.m. on Wednesday night. That's nuts. That should not be happening. And I remember making a couple of observations during those primaries being like, listen, this is like the establishment is coming back to get their revenge here. The establishment is striking back. I mean, I don't trust these people as far as I can throw them. We shouldn't be having any systems that could have any Internet connection. We shouldn't be having digital anything. It should be paper ballots, et cetera, et cetera. Now, to Blake's point, they can only cheat so much. They can only shenanigan so much. So you've got to be watching them like a hawk. Poll watchers are super important. All right, next question. 01:03:26 Speaker 4: All right, we have David. Unmute yourself. 01:03:30 Speaker 1: David. 01:03:31 Speaker 4: Howdy. 01:03:32 Speaker 5: Hey. 01:03:32 Speaker 3: Doing a good job as usual. 01:03:34 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. 01:03:36 Speaker 4: There are a lot of. 01:03:39 Speaker 15: low-potency voters out there, and there's not enough people paying attention to people that are, or politicians trying. 01:03:49 Speaker 4: To remove our rights. 01:03:52 Speaker 15: What's your advice to talk to these people? 01:03:54 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you got to be loud. It depends what your sphere of influence is, right? I mean, if your sphere of influence is your local county GOP or whatever, You need to be getting out there, messaging, knocking on doors, canvassing, recruiting volunteers, being as loud as you can. If your platform is a show like ours, this is all we talk about, is we're trying to get the cynics and the nihilists off the couch and shake them and say, you are giving power to baby killers, open borders people, the DEI wokesters, the people that want to burn down this country, as Blake aptly said earlier, that hate this country. You do not have to be 100 percent satisfied with the GOP to understand that they are the last thing standing between us and the abyss. And so I think that the craziness from the left is one of the best motivators this midterm. 01:04:42 Speaker 4: Well, you since you mentioned people specifically movie removing our rights. If you don't have a big platform, you may be surprised the number of people, you know, in your own life who are low propensity voters. If you're so, for example, if you have a bunch of buddies, I just had the thought who like shooting like guns. Some a lot of those people are very engaged. Some of them are disengaged or they'll say, I'm super libertarian, all the parties are bogus, they're all the Epstein class or whatever. Well, if you like guns, here's the raw truth. There is a party that is pro-gun rights and there is a party that is radically anti-gun rights and wants to confiscate that stuff. And you can vote based on that and say, you can point out, we have constitutional carry in Arizona and two dozen other states because we've had election wins. And you can protect that or get rid of it and We're going to see states. We have see states like Virginia rolling back gun rights. We see countries like Canada. Canada used to have gun rights pretty comparable to ours. Now, model after model, banned, forcible confiscation. 01:05:40 Speaker 1: Two of the groups that are most likely to be sitting out this election, small L libertarians, they're all very upset that Thomas Massey lost his primary, okay? And then hunters and kind of, you know, the outdoorsmen and the shooters, like what Blake's talking about. A lot of them don't vote. Do you know there's a feature on... Turning point actions on the on the where you can upload your contacts to the platform and it will tell you who the low propensity voters of your contact lists are. Anybody can do this. So use that feature. 01:06:09 Speaker 5: TP action. 01:06:10 Speaker 1: Download the app. You can put your your own contacts into the into the app and then find out who your friends that you maybe didn't know need to get out to vote. This is a crazy stat. This is a crazy stat. So about 15 to 16 million paid hunting license holders in the country. And look at this. According to Vote for America and similar groups, put the number of hunters plus gun owners of voting age who are not even registered at about 10 million. 01:06:41 Speaker 4: 10 million. 01:06:43 Speaker 1: 10 million. All those guys should be voting right. 01:06:46 Speaker 8: Yes. 01:06:46 Speaker 1: All of them. 01:06:47 Speaker 4: 10 million. 01:06:47 Speaker 1: We wouldn't lose an election in the future if we had all those guys on board. 01:06:51 Speaker 5: Yeah, growing up, my dad has been in the hunting and gun industry my entire life. And it's been really interesting to kind of watch, especially with 2020 and then as, you know, the last couple of elections. They are very single issue. And it's funny because, at least from what I've noticed, yes, obviously 2A is a big thing. 01:07:16 Speaker 4: But it is. 01:07:20 Speaker 5: They're– especially in this coming midterms, they're really pulling back because they're like, oh, it's just the Epstein class. It's just the Epstein class. Oh, I'm not going to vote. And so then they go Doomer. They go Blackpill. And it's crazy. So– and Blake even brought this up. The people closest to you are probably the ones who are not voting in the midterm. 01:07:43 Speaker 4: You will be surprised. That you need to– You may be surprised the number of people who think politics is just– it's a thing that doesn't interest them. It's too worldly or whatever, and they might be great on pro-life stuff, anti-LGBT stuff, but they're not voting the way that you'd expect. They're just not engaged with it, or they might even vote the opposite way sometimes, especially when you have maybe older voters. I remember my grandmother– was this lifelong Democrat because she thought FDR kept her from starving in the Depression. And my dad would lose his mind because he would be saying, have you seen what this party votes for now? That they have abortion on demand. They have gay marriage. And she started to finally get it late in life, but he was frustrated for decades over that. 01:08:28 Speaker 1: I've seen some of these stats before, but I hadn't thought about them for a while. But this is crazy. This is, again, swing state examples of voter registration for hunters. Wisconsin, 665,000 license holders. Vote for America listed 339,000 unregistered hunter gun owners. 01:08:45 Speaker 4: Unregistered hunter gun owner. Guys, the left hates your way of life. 01:08:50 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania, 515,000 unregistered. Michigan and North Carolina each have 370,000 unregistered. It's just wild. Hunters could save the country, but you know what it is. 01:09:05 Speaker 4: 500,000 in Pennsylvania, that's enough that you swing the result in 2012, for example, where we lose Pennsylvania by 5%. 01:09:12 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:09:14 Speaker 4: That number of votes swings every election in Pennsylvania. 01:09:18 Speaker 1: And it's kind of a– it makes sense to me on one level because I've known these people my whole life. And it's sort of like, eh, it's all corrupt anyways and just stay off my lawn. 01:09:27 Speaker 8: No. Yes. 01:09:28 Speaker 5: It's the stay off my lawn mentality where it's like, hey, I already have– Government out of my business. I have my chunk of land. I have my domain. 01:09:36 Speaker 1: Just leave me alone. 01:09:37 Speaker 5: My family and I are going to be fine. You just do whatever you want to do. And there's– it's very– It's short-sighted. Very short-sighted. 01:09:47 Speaker 4: It's the wrong take. You have to care about the future of your country. And if you're sitting it out, rest assured the evildoers are. 01:09:54 Speaker 1: Not sitting this one out. This is their church. This is their one reason for being. Conservatives to this same worldview, they want to build their business. They want to build their home, build their family, build their church. They want to protect their land. These people will spend 20% of their time loading their own ammo. 01:10:14 Speaker 6: Yep. 01:10:15 Speaker 1: But they won't get off the couch to go vote to make sure they have the right to do that in the future. It makes zero rational sense, by the way. Let's just be very clear. This is the least productive worldview that you could possibly have if those are your values. But I'm telling you, there's a lot of the small L libertarians that are just sitting it out. 01:10:33 Speaker 3: Yep. 01:10:34 Speaker 1: And a lot of these hunters are kind of like that. 01:10:36 Speaker 5: And pushing for other people to sit it out. 01:10:40 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:10:40 Speaker 1: Well, exactly. And that's what we're talking about. Today's whole theme really is about do not be demoralized. Do not believe the polls. The polls are there to keep you at home. I don't know how to say it any clearer. They don't want you to vote. They don't want you to believe that you can make a difference. They don't want you to believe that you have any agency to change the future direction of this country. That is a lie. If you want to take one lesson from Charlie Kirk's life, it's that one person can change the world. One person who says, yes, here I am, Lord, send me can change everything. And by the way, I just want to reiterate, use the app. You can upload your contacts into it and see who is a low propensity voter in your friend group. People that you know. Maybe you haven't talked to them for a while. This would be a great time to start up a conversation. It's something anybody there at home can do. So especially if you're in those swing states, get that app, download it, put your contacts in there. Everything's protected. Everything's private. But it will give you an opportunity to reach out to them. And what it does is it crosses your data up with our voter files so we can give you that information. Any further thoughts on this, Blake? 01:11:47 Speaker 4: No, but we have a writing question that I thought I wanted to answer. And it was from Jeffrey. And he says, what if Turning Point Action or another conservative PAC produced Charlie Kirk AI ads for the midterms similar to the Spencer Pratt ads in California? The ads could be real Charlie clips. I would like that. Real Charlie clips. But he also said, we want to make sure Charlie's voice is never silenced. What do you think? We've been asked this a few times. It came up a lot after the events a year ago. I am adamantly against any AI generation using Charlie's imitation of his voice. 01:12:22 Speaker 1: I can't stand. There's a whole thing, especially with the kids, the Kirkification memes. Everything gets Kirkified. I find it really disgusting and hard to see when I get a meme sent to me. Uh, and that's adjacent to what is being asked. This is asked in good faith. I want to say, I understand you're asking in good, good faith and your, your, your motives are pure. No, no problem there. But just anytime you sort of like open Pandora's box and you start allowing it, Charlie to be manipulated as image is likeness to be manipulated in a, in a fake way that is something that didn't really happen. That bothers me now. Actual clips and. 01:12:57 Speaker 4: Soundbites, I think that's fine. The point is, Charlie was a real person. And he is a real person who is no longer with us. We believe he is with his savior. And we're not going to blur that line where we create a replica of this person. Where we say, here's what Charlie would be saying right now with this robot voice. 01:13:19 Speaker 8: No. 01:13:20 Speaker 4: And some people have suggested, oh, could you create an imitation Charlie who would answer questions? And I'm just I'm very against it. We have to account for the person we really had, not create this false idol, for lack of a better term. 01:13:33 Speaker 1: No, I agree. 01:13:34 Speaker 4: I agree. 01:13:35 Speaker 1: Well, that was fun. Thanks, Russ, for joining. 01:13:38 Speaker 4: Of course. 01:13:38 Speaker 1: Russ is the man. He's one of our producers. You can catch him on Thought Crime. We had a great Thought Crime, and Russ starred in it. It was a great Thought Crime. Yeah, and if you want to catch Thought Crime, by the way, it's every Thursday evening at 6 p.m. Eastern, and then it's like– even when Charlie was with us, the most downloaded podcast of the week. Always like 20, 25%. 01:13:57 Speaker 4: And if you tune in live, you can, we engage with the chat and such. So it's a great way to get direct interaction. 01:14:05 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody. You have one to do. Download the TP action app, upload your contacts and start nicely, politely harassing your friends that are low propensity conservatives. Do it, do it today. It's a great way to get off the couch and help save this country. No doom and gloom, no black pilling. 01:14:25 Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.