Dismantling the Antifa/NGO Alliance + AMA 263

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She's a TPOSA frontlines journalist and after that she kind of had to take some time and she's back, so I wanted to have her on as soon as she was ready to get her story without further ado. 00:01:55 Speaker 2: Savannah Hernandez, welcome back to the show. 00:01:57 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Andrew, I wish it was under what circumstances. 00:02:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you look good, and I know we've been staying in touch behind the scenes as you've been kind of processing everything that happened. First of all, you know, and by the way, we would have had you on immediately after, but you know, you were going through something and we wanted to give you space and hopefully you're feeling better. Now, but tell us for the audience that doesn't know, tell us what happened, and then we're going to get into some of the aftermath that we've been dealing with, and just you know, for your own edification, We've got har Meat Dylan coming on and we're going to be asking her about all of the legal proceedings and what progress is being made or needs to still be made. So that comes at the half hour mark of this hour. So tell us your story, sef sure. 00:02:47 Speaker 4: So, first off, thank you for giving me the time to kind of cope with this. You know, I've been working in media for the last six years and I'm very much used to being in very volatile situation and then still getting on air and discussing, you know, what happened. This is not the first time that I've been mobbed and attacked. However, it was one of the most violent assaults that I've experienced. So I did get a concussion as a result of this, and I was kind of just trying to push through my media hits, and then I just realized, you know, I can't, I can't keep watching the footage. I can't I don't want to keep talking about this, and I also physically, I'm just not doing well. So I just decided to you know, take the week last week. So thank you for giving me the time. But basically, you know, I'm sure everybody's seen this for those who haven't, I was at a national protest against the Ice day and I happened to go to Minneapolis. I have been watching what's been happening there. I've been covering a legal immigration extensively for the last four years and didn't go when the you know, major ICE protests were happening in January, and so figured I would kind of go check out the scene, go check out the Whipple Ice Building, and go cover this protest right and just kind of gauge where the protesters were at and what the scene was like. Now, in situations like this, I very much just conduct points and shoot observational journalism because a lot of the time these left wingers are very violent, and so I was there to do that, but it didn't matter. I was still violently assaulted. I was identified as a journalist who works for Turning Point USA, and after that chaos ensued. I was initially identified by William Scott Kelly, who is the same protester who was already arrested a couple months back for storming a church in Minneapolis and shutting down the entire church service, you know, resulting in children crying in fear because these violent protesters were in there screaming at people. He was the same guy that came up to me and identified me. He began battering me with very hostile questions. At that point, I was still trying to diffuse a situation and just, you know, do journalism. I was like, okay, well talk to me about why you're here. Why is this important to you. How many months have you guys been on the ground protesting for discuss why you're angry. It didn't matter. Again, like I said, no matter what you say in that moment, we know that the left wing has become extremely radicalized and violent. I didn't matter what I said. They were trying to twist my words. They were just angry that I was even present in there, and I was told to get the f out, to which I responded, I don't have to. I'm on a public street and I have a right to be here. Now, it didn't matter. At that point, I was getting mobbed, and I did walk over to a portion of the fence where I was hoping police would see me and see the situation that was unfolding, because I didn't want to have to walk through a mob on my own, because again, typically in a mob situation where everyone is surrounding you, screaming at you and hate, like obviously hates you, trying to walk through them when they very clearly want to hurt you is not the best idea. So I was standing off to the side kind of hoping that the cops would come and diffuse the situation. They never did, so at that point I was like, Okay, I'm gonna have to walk out because Diana Shrushcho. We have a whole family here, Diana, Chris and paigea Shrushco that committed this very violent assault. Other unnamed defendants as well, who were swinging sex toys in my face and you know, hitting me with them. But basically these two, as you see on screen, were the ones that initially came up to me and started making a huge issue. And Chris and Page had already body checked me and were screaming very violently at me. I tried to walk away from them. You know, you did catch Chris on camera. There's an angle of him, instructing his daughter, Page to come up to me and blow a whistle in my ear. At that point, I'm just trying to walk away from these people. They won't let me walk away from them. They're following me as I'm trying to leave. Page then decides to slam me on the ground. After I get up, I have my arm out to try to diffuse the situation even more because I'm like, I'm not going to fight back against these people. I'm out numbered. I also, I'm not here to fight people. I'm just here to do my job. You know. Page slams me down, She's throwing punches. Her mom then comes up to me from behind as I'm trying to leave, and you know, accuses me of hitting her daughter. I'm still trying to leave at that point, and then Chris comes up behind me. This man is about three times my size and he slams me to the ground. I get up. The first thing I see is Page in front of me again. I'm like, Okay, these people are clearly not going to let me leave, and so I basically like trying to push my way out of the situation. Deanna and Page then come and tackle me again. Now, this entire family has since continued to state that I was the aggressor of the entire time. Chris states that he was protecting his family because I guess I was a very violent safety threat to this family Andrew as I was trying to leave. They have gone on an entire press tour. And I mean, the reason why it's taking me some time to even just come back on Aaron talk about this one. You know, I don't want to keep reliving it. But two, like we have to because these people aren't in jail, they're still out free. They're actually on social media bragging about how they're free and how they're enjoying the casino and they're enjoying going to target. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: They we have this image too. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: This is a daughter page of Strushko on social media. She said, so unbothered that I went from being assaulted by and she has a toilet paper roll that she claims she was assaulted and the police to die and trending on Twitter for a week being sent threats constantly rumors of my arrest to gambling at the casino free lol. So that these are the quality of people that we're dealing with here, and the brazenness and the audacity to say that they were assaulted by you when we've all seen the footage of you trying to get away from them and then consistently attacking you is really rich. I mean, that's a that's a really I mean, we have the footage. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: I don't think. 00:08:30 Speaker 3: I don't know what they think they're going to get away with here, but maybe they're just banking on liberal judges, liberal prosecutors in Hennepin County. Does that seem to be the case, Savannah. 00:08:42 Speaker 4: I mean, I would argue so. Obviously, this is an ongoing investigation at both the state and federal level. But regarding the state level, it has been almost two weeks. Saturday will be two weeks since this very clear attack happened on Cameron four k Ultra HD. It's pretty cut and dry. I have there has been no public statement from the County DA's office. I've spoken to them on a personal level and they basically have just told me like, yeah, we'll have more information within the week. But there has really been no statement. And like I said, these people are still out free, which is just very frustrating to me because instead of sitting in jail after assaulting somebody who's doing nothing to them. These people are on a press tour attesting that they are not violent and that again they are the real victims. 00:09:28 Speaker 5: Here. 00:09:28 Speaker 3: We have some clips here, We need to just we just need to play because I think people will be shocked when they realize just how I don't know, offensive, obnoxious. These people are the Strusko family. Let's play sat too. 00:09:42 Speaker 6: Maybe you guys do get docs, but I don't know if you guys are getting the same type of stuff that we're getting. And it's non stop. It's hundreds of phone calls a day, it's text messages and them trying to get into all of our social media accounts and contacting our friends, our neighbors, our family. It's a little overwhelming and that makes me second guess even living in this country, to be honest with you. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: With oh so oh no, yeah there they feel bad that he pushed a woman, assaulted a woman, violently, had it, you know, had his whole family involved in the assault, and now he's the victim. This is their victim tour. It's pretty offensive. Sav It's got to just be infuriating being in your position. 00:10:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's also just comical at this point, Like I go through phases of being very angry and then also just laughing because it's like, am I living in Crazyland? What universe am I in? Where this man legitimately thought he could assault a woman on camera and that people were going to be on his side. If anything, it has reinstilled my hope in America. I'm like, Okay, incredible, we all can agree, you know, and primarily too, there's like a lot of people on the left that are like, yeah, don't attack women. And it's actually really funny because a lot of the left wing streamers that were there that hate me, they even put out statements immediately and they were like, yeah, we hate this girl, we hate everything she stands for, but she wasn't doing anything and we probably shouldn't put our hands on women. So it's like, if if you're that extreme, I'm glad that we can at least come together on you know, agreeing that it's bad to assault women when you're three times. 00:11:25 Speaker 3: Journalists in general, like, you know, I have a lot of problems with journalists. I think journalists are annoying. I think they're largely a not you sef. But in general, journalists are annoying so called journalists and they do a lot of harm to this country actually, But like, never in a million years would I think it's okay to go out on the street and then you know, shove somebody to the ground, kick them, punch them, assault them, and get in their face with sex toys, and like, I mean, what of journalists? 00:11:52 Speaker 7: I do that too? 00:11:53 Speaker 3: Well, yeah you might want to, but you wouldn't. All right, I'm gonna play Page. This is Page again bragging about she's for he sought. 00:12:01 Speaker 8: Fo curly welcome free in the target to everybody that thinks we're been arrested. 00:12:11 Speaker 2: So she's just yeahoating, she's just mocking law enforcement here. 00:12:15 Speaker 4: After I got ahold of these social media clips because of course I've posted them because people are following along with his story. They want to make sure that justice is served. They ended up both Page and her father making both of their social media accounts private because I think they realized that going on this press tour and gloating about how they're not being held responsible is a really bad look for them. So yeah, it was funny they put this out. They immediately made all of their accounts even more private than they already were so nobody could continue collecting again this evidence of them. And it's just so crazy to Andrew because you know what shout out to these left being streamers that do hate me, but they are the ones that did end up catching Chris instructing his daughter to come assault me. And then they also caught Deanna after I had left the scene, admitting to tackling me to the ground and admitting that she ran away before the police could get her. Because you know, as of now, there have been no charges referred for Deanna, and then it was only misdemeanor charges that were referred by the Sheriff's department for Chris and Paige as well. So we'll see what end up ends up happening with this. Like I said, this is all still ongoing, but at the end of the day, Andrew, it shouldn't take somebody who is like goes viral for justice to be served. And it's really frustrating to me that Hennepin County has been allowing this type of activity to take place for so long that the protesters think that this is their right to do. It's their right to assault people that they don't like. It's their right to assault people that they don't agree with. Because keep in mind, I am one of many people this has happened to in Minneapolis, in Minnesota over even just the last six months, because this is what the DA's office allows. And it's very frustrating to me because I don't understand how our justice system has gotten so just deluded and destroyed to where this is the norm for people, and these this whole family is still walking free. 00:14:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean candidly. I mean, you see this in California, you see this in New York. Hennepin County is no different. It's it's an an Arco tyranny where they will enforce the letter of the law to the most exacting extent if it's a conservative, But if it's one of theirs, something they agree with, then they'll let everything slide. 00:14:27 Speaker 2: They'll they'll they'll sweep it under the ring. 00:14:29 Speaker 7: See it with the entitlement of that guy where he's pouting, Oh, we're getting we're getting DUCKXD in the unit. They really do think it's just their day at the races. Just go out and you know, shelve people, punch people. It's like it's like going to church for them. We're infringing on their religious beliefs. 00:14:45 Speaker 3: Really, yeah no, And these are lawless hell holes and and honestly, it's outposts of lawlessness right here in the United States of America. And it's it's incredibly infuriating because if you go back to where all of the all of this star, it was really local law enforcement that allowed the protesters in the Minneapolis area to get out of control. 00:15:07 Speaker 2: In the first place. 00:15:08 Speaker 3: They wanted to see Minneapolis explode into a war zone, and they got what they wanted. Sure, it cost them a couple of dead vigilantes that that were using their cars as in their in the instance of Alex Predia, I mean he kicked a car. He was absolutely antagonizing ice agents and law enforcement officers. And they got what they wanted. So what they lost a few, they won the pr battle. And you know that's that's for them, is exactly what they wanted. So to hell with the law, to help with order, chaos rules supreme. And it's really disappointing. And that's why we have to have federal action on this case, because we have to send a message it's bigger than what happened. I mean, you got you got assaulted, your body took a beating. I know it's been emotional for you, but it's it's even bigger than that you have the concussion. It's bigger than that. We have to send a message to people like this. They're vigilantes, really, they're the left foot soldiers that it's not okay to do this, and the law, the law and justice will be coming for you. You will serve time, you will be held accountable. And that's the message here. So Savannah, we're gonna stay on this and we're gonna be asking hard Meat Dylan about this in just about five minutes. 00:16:17 Speaker 2: So thank you for coming on. We appreciate it. 00:16:19 Speaker 4: Zev, Thanks Andrew, Thanks Blake. 00:16:23 Speaker 3: The war in Iran is having a devastating effect on the people living there locally. What most people don't realize is it's affecting everyone on the global scale as well, even if we aren't there physically. 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Welcome back to the. 00:18:22 Speaker 5: Show, har Meet, thanks for having me again. 00:18:24 Speaker 3: It's great to see you. You know, you're doing a phenomenal job and a very tough environment. I mean, if anybody is unaware of the DOJ, you guys got a lot coming at you. There's a lot of people demanding things of you all the time, and you have been, in spite of that, able to continue to play offense Harmy, and so you deserve a lot of credit for that. We've got this. We just had Savannah Hernandez on before you. She had to take kind of a break for media. I had been asking her, Hey, can you come on and give your story, and she's like, I just need a little bit more time. Today she said she was ready to tell kind of where she's at. 00:18:58 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: Things when you talk to Whereas she's pretty upset that Hennepton County has not been more aggressive. It's basically misdemeanor slap on the risk kind of we'll update you when we know more kind of thing. What can you tell me about maybe the federal level, about maybe the DOJ pursuing an investigation there? 00:19:17 Speaker 5: Well, thanks for asking. 00:19:18 Speaker 9: And what happened to Savannah is really outrageous and should never be permitted in any American city. 00:19:23 Speaker 5: But we have been seeing this kind of thing happening for. 00:19:25 Speaker 9: Years, and as you know, Andrew, before I joined the DOJ, I was a lawyer for many conservative journalists, including Andy No and others, who were attacked in this manner by Antifa and other sort of these so called black box and anti fascist groups. So this recent thing that we're seeing with regard to Ice is just an outgrowth of all of that. 00:19:44 Speaker 5: It's funded from abroad. Neville Singham and others. 00:19:48 Speaker 9: Are part of shadowy networks that fund these types of protests in the United States that are really designed to disrupt our government, and I think it's very concerning. What I can tell you is, as you know, we already have investigation going on in Minnesota regarding some of the characters there who are attacking our ice and who are doing protests, so called protests. We've indicted thirty nine people for invading the city's church in Saint Paul. One of the individuals in this mob who was egging on the attacks on Savannah appears to be one of the individuals involved in that matter. 00:20:21 Speaker 5: But you know, there's a. 00:20:22 Speaker 9: Line between speech and action. We saw at least three people appear to attack Savannah there, and so what I can tell you is that we do have lawyers and investigators on the ground there who are looking into attacks on journalists and attacks on ice. I can't say more until there may be development in court, but please rest assured that protecting the First Amendment is incredibly important to this Department of Justice, and also protecting our law biding and patriotic ice officers in doing their jobs is very important to us. And mob action like this is designed to intimidate both our law enforcement and also the journalists who seek to document these attacks. And it's important to America that we shut it down, not only in Minnesota, but everywhere we find it. 00:21:10 Speaker 5: We're committed to that at the Department. 00:21:11 Speaker 3: Of justice, so HARMI and I'm assured because I know you kind of the subtext of what you're saying there. 00:21:20 Speaker 2: So you mentioned this. You didn't say his name, but it is William Scott. I think it was. 00:21:24 Speaker 3: Kelly, William Scott Kelly, Yeah, So he's the city's church guy that was storming in there. He was, also, according to Hernandez, the one that I identified her to this mob and then kind of egged people on, at what point does that type of behavior become incitement because I have another incitement question for you after you answer this. 00:21:46 Speaker 5: Well, it's very fact specific. 00:21:48 Speaker 9: I'm not the investigator, so you know, we do have a I know people are frustrated by this in our online world. I know you're more sophisticated, but we have investigators who go and do interviews. We interviewed, I will say, we interviewed and preserved Savannah's input early on in this case, the very weekend that had happened. I made sure prosecutors and our law enforcement were out there. 00:22:11 Speaker 5: To take her statement. That's been that's been done. 00:22:13 Speaker 9: Then you have to take statements of other people and witnesses, look at the camera, angles and all of that, and then there's pretty much there's case law that tells us, there's Brandenburg in the other cases that tell us sort of the dividing line between protected speech and incitement. 00:22:29 Speaker 5: So I'm not going to pre judge that. 00:22:31 Speaker 9: We have to take cases either to a judge or grand jury, right, And you know, I don't want. 00:22:35 Speaker 3: To argue that when you when you talk about incitement. So I'm gonna I'm gonna throw up a theoretical here. Hassan Piker has made a lot of news this week because he's talking about social murder and he's justifying the assassination of Brian Brian Thoms, yes, the CEO of United Healthcare. Sorry, just blanked on his name. But then so this so people are starting to up his clips, right, Hassan Piker. And there's a clip here it's like he says, if you cared about Medicare fraud, you would kill Rick Scott st ten. 00:23:10 Speaker 1: If you cared about Medicare fraud or Medicaid fraud, you would kill Rick Scott. 00:23:16 Speaker 3: So this is just him kind of off the cuff. But then you see other things that he said. He's just he's talked about like stabbing people. He's he's now talking about social murder to justify assassination culture. Like, I'm as huge of a defender of the First Amendment as anybody. It's what Charlie stood for. 00:23:34 Speaker 2: But at what. 00:23:36 Speaker 3: Point do we get into like you are inciting people to do crazy stuff. You're inciting people. And by the way, we've got the splc uh news this week, which I'd love to have you opine on as well well. 00:23:48 Speaker 5: So this is not that hard of a question. 00:23:51 Speaker 9: Actually, the standard requires that it be an incitement to imminent violence. And so the crowd situation, you know that we're just describing vis a vis Savannah, is much closer to incitement if you know, the facts pan out than Hassan Piker spewing his garbage on the internet. Because I don't think a court would find there to be unless there's a circumstance he's talking directly to an individual with a knife poised above a person's body, that that would be an imminent incitement to an imminent violence. 00:24:25 Speaker 5: And so I know that's. 00:24:28 Speaker 9: Unsatisfactory for people, but that's kind of what the Supreme Court has ruled. And you know, it's over inclusive of speech and under inclusive of you know, criminal activity. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: You're just saying the standard is. 00:24:42 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:24:42 Speaker 9: So if assan piker is standing in a mob and saying that's you know, fill in the blank, law enforcement official, get them, get them, and someone is standing next to them with a rock or a gun or or or a knife, that could be considered imminent incitement to imminent violence. 00:25:01 Speaker 5: Right. 00:25:02 Speaker 3: Well, we brought up the SPLC, and we have to recall that they have no great love affair with you either. So here's a headline when you were nominated for Assistant Attorney General. SPLC expresses concern over Harmeat Dylan's nomination. So with all the news, I figured it was appropriate harm meet to give you an opportunity to reflect on the indictments that were delivered this week. 00:25:30 Speaker 5: Well, you know their history with me. 00:25:32 Speaker 9: I've commented on them going back to twenty seventeen and when Jeff Sessions was the Attorney general here, he talked about their conduct and I went on Fox News and talked about it as well. So I've known about their shenanigans for years, and I've had many clients over the years, nonprofit organizations. Andy no is another one who got onto their hate map and were characterized as hateful agents and entities, And at the end of the story where they're tagging me as being a horrible thing for civil rights, I'm not sufficiently good for black and brown people. 00:26:03 Speaker 5: I'm not the right kind of brown person. 00:26:04 Speaker 9: Apparently they say that their purpose in life is to get rid of white supremacy and that kind of social constructs, when in fact we now know they were creating the very thing that they claim to be fighting against, which is very good for business if you're in the hate wongering business against conservatives, and there was apparently an insufficient supply of hatred in our country on the right, so they had to manufacture it. It is a truly shocking story, and I tend to believe that this is only the tip of the iceberg. SPLC gets money laundered through various different channels, So you know, you might see an Obama foundation give money to some intermediary tides forward some others, and then they launder that into SPLC. And I believe there are probably plenty of others much less prominent than SPLC and who are getting. 00:26:59 Speaker 5: This kind of money. 00:27:00 Speaker 9: SPLC is a huge amount of money offshore, by the way, as well, so I'm sure my colleagues who are looking into money laundering and financial crimes are very interested in that, and I think we're just stratching the tip of the iceberg here. 00:27:15 Speaker 5: I feel vindicated in this regard. 00:27:17 Speaker 7: So we have one one minute before the break is there? Could there be additional things just against SPLC. I know they've had complaints against them for decades. People on the left have said the organization is a con Morris D's left under a cloud, and they said this will totally be investigated, and nothing was ever heard. Again, Is this maybe just the beginning of what we have against the SPLC? Could more be forthcoming in that case? 00:27:41 Speaker 9: Look again, we never tried to tip our hand about what we're doing, but you know we've started with the type of crimes that eventually took down the mob in the United States. 00:27:51 Speaker 5: You know, Elliott, Elliott and Nes kind of. 00:27:54 Speaker 9: Started out with tax fraud and then you know, it went from there. And so sometimes things start out with what looks like a less sexy approach, but I think you start unraveling the thread and you're going to see a lot there. A lot of us on the right knew that there was shady stuff happening there. Nobody had the will until this DOJ, starting under Pambondi and now continuing under Todd Blanche's great leadership to actually do something about it. 00:28:20 Speaker 3: Harmie, you just broke some news right before coming on the air. You have launched a lawsuit. I believe I've got the details right with you. Are proud, you say, proud to intervene inn Xai's lawsuit. So your challenging Colorado's law that forces AI companies to discriminate based on race, sex, and religion, all in the name of DEI tell us about this. 00:28:44 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm really excited about this lawsuit, Andrews. The first case in which the Department of Justice has entered the fray in this AI algorithm wokeness feud. 00:28:55 Speaker 5: That's happening. 00:28:56 Speaker 9: And the President foreshadowed this back in December. 00:28:59 Speaker 5: He issued an execute. 00:29:00 Speaker 9: Of Order saying that he was opposed to in the United States as opposed to excessive meddling by states creating a patchwork of regulations regarding the very important industry of artificial intelligence, where the United States has and needs to maintain its dominance. So that's like a policy issue. But the civil rights issue that we're confronting, and I'm doing this case together with my colleague brit Shoemate in the Civil Division, So we're partnering on this. We are intervening in Xai's lawsuit that they filed two weeks ago to challenge Colorado's law that goes into effect in June of this year. 00:29:31 Speaker 5: And that law is problematic in a couple of different ways. First of all, it requires. 00:29:35 Speaker 9: Companies like Xai and the other big sort of algorithm companies that produce the content that so many of us rely on, good and bad, and they're challenging the law because the law requires companies like Xai to factor discriminatory elements into their algorithms, so they have to consider race and sex and ensure certain kinds of outputs. So this is incredibly dangerous because, like the Ai models are trained on a number of different inputs, and if you're forcing them to inject woke ideology into their inputs and train them on models that are discriminatory, it's garbage in, garbage out. Anybody's learned computer programming, you know that. And so we're going to have as we're dismantling DEI in the real world, we're going to have a shadow world where DEI is actually infecting our AI agents and models, and so that is really dangerous and bad. Secondly, the law is really bad because it exempts companies that are doing discrimination on race, sex, gender, these other factors if it's to quote unquote redress prior discrimination. So in other words, if you're doing discrimination for a good reason and you're painting every one of our founding fathers as African American, for example, that's okay. But if you're doing it in the opposite direction, that suddenly illegal. Twenty thousand dollars violations, and the problem with this type of law you might say, well, that's only Colorado who cares, right, Well, the problem is just like we have in California, when you have bad laws regarding emissions and fuel standards or what have you, Suddenly companies have to race to the bottom and make their products compliant everywhere they want to do business. So that means everyone has to have garbage AI that's not going to work. The stakes are very high here. Kudos to XAI for stepping up to challenge this law, and the United States finds this case and my boss Todd Blanche certified this morning that this is a case of national importance. And that allowed us in the Civil Rights and Civil Division to go into court and file these two claims regarding equal protection under the fourteenth Amendment. 00:31:49 Speaker 5: Of the Constitution. 00:31:50 Speaker 9: So this is going to benefit all Americans, all people who use these algorithms, and it's going to benefit all of the companies in this incredibly important and innovative space. That's important to the White House, and it's important to all of us as we're learning to incorporate these tools into our daily lifestyles and our efficiency. We ought to be able to rely on them without this filter of wokeness and nonsense that has impacted every other aspect of our society. 00:32:16 Speaker 5: But the earth is healing. 00:32:18 Speaker 9: We're getting rid of that in our universities and our corporations, in our schools, and we cannot let it overcome the next generation of technology. 00:32:25 Speaker 7: So obviously this Colorado law is terrible. I wonder are you guys also interested. We're seeing these AI models are used all over the place. People are using them to automatically sift through resumes, applications for things. They're being given a lot of autonomy, and even without Colorado's law, I think because of either the way they're designing these AIS, or just because of what's being fed into them. There have been people who've done studies They've found, for example, the AIS, without being told to, will automatically value, for example, black people more than white people, gay people more than straight people. They'll value Palestinians more than Israelis. You can find a lot of these patterns. Is their interest in at the DOJ in looking into this, in saying you're responsible if your AIS are engaging in discrimination of that sort, even if it's not to follow some Colorado law. 00:33:16 Speaker 9: Well, you know, it's very interesting that you asked that, because one of the things that I do that's completely separate from this here at DOJ is we enforce certain employment laws. And for example, it's illegal for employers to discriminate against American citizens. And so when you see a lot of this H one B preference in companies, that's what they're doing. They're discriminating against Americans on the basis of Americans national origin. So I had a case recently where we took this on. What we found was that the company's defense was, well, we used artificial intelligence to draft this job posting, and that's why it turned out that way. So we're not we humans at this company, this recruiting company, are not to blame. 00:33:55 Speaker 5: No, that's not the law. The law is if you. 00:33:58 Speaker 9: Use discriminatory tools, you as the employer, are liable for the discriminatory impacts of those tools, whatever that tool is. 00:34:05 Speaker 5: And so we actually have a great. 00:34:07 Speaker 9: And robust civil rights edifice of laws that allows people to go in and sue over these issues. So I'm not sure extra laws needed on that, but certainly if we found, or the EEOC found in terms of private employers in a different context, that there was systematic discrimination happening by companies, usually large companies. Because you try to make an example of larger employers, you know, they would probably have to stop using those tools and the tools would then be reformed themselves by market forces. So this is going to be it's a Pandora's box. There are a lot of great promises in AI, there's a lot of potential liability and it's a little scary. And so everyone who like Xai, these other companies anthropic, they're responsible for putting guardrails on their products so that they aren't having end users violate the law. 00:34:55 Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's so much going on in the AI space, that is going to create very interesting legal predicaments, both for the government and for these private employees. I mean, we've got a story, I think it was out of Florida where a guy you know, used chat gpt to figure out how to kill somebody and it told him, you know, to how. I think it was the Florida It was a Florida school shooting, right, and they use chat gpt, what time should I do it? 00:35:20 Speaker 2: What weapons should I do it? 00:35:22 Speaker 3: And the prosecutors are saying, hey, if this was a living, breathing person. On the other end, they would be an accomplice to this murder, to the shooting. You had another instance where somebody just committed suicide because I believe it was Claude basically encouraged the person to do it. At the end, he became enamored and obsessed with Claude the chatbot and called it as his queen and all this stuff, and then the chatbot encouraged him to kill himself. I mean, there's this whole area is going to be so fraught with new legal challenges. Anyways, I'm at least grateful harm meet to you that you're in the position you are to go after the algorithms that are going to be you know, basically pushing DEI on these answers. This almost confirmation woke confirmation bias that AI is engaging in. Harmy Dillon, the Assistant Attorney General for the Department of Justice in the Civil Rights Division, and so much more. Anyways, Harmy, it's always good to see you. 00:36:17 Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for having me. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: Charlie had an absolutely relentless passion for learning. 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Please unmute yourself. 00:38:10 Speaker 5: Hello. 00:38:11 Speaker 4: My question is what was Charlie's views on nuclear energy. 00:38:16 Speaker 2: He was pro. 00:38:18 Speaker 7: I think we have a tweet with that ready to go. Actually, Danny, Yeah, okay, Danny found this, but I'll read it here President Trump. This must have been at the start of the ADMIN. President Trump assigned a new executive order expanding uranium mining, allowing for nuclear power plants to be built on federal land, and commanding the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to rule on applications for new reactors within eighteen months. Cheap energy is the lifeblood of a modern economy. The most important innovation of our time. AI requires colossal amounts of energy. Nations that intentionally hobble themselves for the sake of green energy will be left behind. President Trump's America will not be left behind. I think that's a pretty clear cut answer. 00:38:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chiley was a builder. 00:39:01 Speaker 3: I remember when Charlie met with Energy Secretary right, and he came back he was braving. He just really really enjoyed his meeting with Chris Wright and just said, this guy's fantastic. He's got the right views on energy, on utilities, and specifically about nuclear. And there's a bunch of breakthroughs in nuclear as well. I mean, the modern nuclear reactors that you in theory could build. I don't know that we built any. I think there's maybe a few smaller ones. There's some that are even mobile. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: Believe it or not. 00:39:31 Speaker 3: One of the worries with a nuclear reactor or nuclear site is that it could be prone to attack. It kind of puts a target on the map. But these things are so small now you could, in theory put them on wheels, roll them out, and roll them to another spot. I mean, that's the kind of technology we're talking about with modern nuclear energies. So Charlie was very, very in favor of it. Secretary of Energy Chris Wright is very in favor of it, and I think they're making some pretty dramatic strides in that field right now. 00:39:58 Speaker 7: Yeah, it fits into a big picture thing. As I say, Charlie was pro building. He loved to talk about we need a moonshot on housing. He loved the idea of bring manufacturing back to America. And you'll hear those things mentioned as buzzwords, but when you really dig into it, a lot of that just comes down to how much does it cost to produce energy in your country? And if you look at our biggest geopolitical rival, China, what do they do. They endlessly are building power plants. Go look at a chart and it's just lyne is endlessly going up on the chart, and they build everything. They build coal plants, they build solar plants, they build nuke plants. They are building every single thing you can imagine, because they know the more energy you have, the cheaper energy you have, that makes it way easier to set up a new factory, that provides jobs, that increases your national power. And when you look at Europe, which is in decline, a big reason is they've made it so electricity is so expensive you can't run factories there anymore. So factories in Germany are shutting down because costs a lot of electricity to builds, costs a lot of electricity to build anything, to manufacture ammonia, to make anything. And when you don't have the energy to do it, you stop doing it. And when you stop making things, you become a poorer and a more sclerotic country. 00:41:13 Speaker 3: Well, and we see this in the UK as well, right the UK. That's why President Trump keeps asking them like open up your you know, drilling in the North Sea, because right now they're importing a bunch from Norway a bunch of I think LNG from Norway. And you know, if you we talked about this actually on thought crime, so I know a lot of you guys are thought crime h fans, so you can check it out there as well. But in the UK, they basically if we added them as the fifty first state, if you took it by GDP, they would be the poorest American state. They would be the fifty first on the GDP, and apparently it's not even close. So you know, you look at utility rates in the UK, they've skyrocketed in recent years. 00:41:53 Speaker 7: Ali and it's just in the US you look at how much electricity costs and it's almost a perfect mirror for is this state doing well? Is the state growing or is the state falling behind and not able to generate new wealth, new ideas, new businesses. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: New stuff and grown. 00:42:13 Speaker 7: And another good reason a lot of us if you drive you think wind farms are kind of ugly, I think they're pretty ugly. Well, one nuclear plant can offset a whole bunch of wind farms, and so if you're worried about the environment, you're going to do way less environmental damage with a nuclear plant than you will with all basically all the alternative. 00:42:31 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:42:32 Speaker 3: And by the way, that just to underscore the point, the modern technology is much much improved over the old sort of like you know, those those big domes you'd see. 00:42:40 Speaker 10: We don't have to worry about like another char and Noble or no, exactly. 00:42:43 Speaker 3: All right, next question here to we have Elizabeth, Elizabeth, Welcome to the show. 00:42:50 Speaker 11: Mute, Yes, Hiewake, Hi, Danny, Hi, Hi, Andrew? 00:42:54 Speaker 5: How are you Hi? 00:42:55 Speaker 7: Doing great? 00:42:57 Speaker 2: So my question was this. 00:42:59 Speaker 11: My cousin is a attorney for university, and I was wondering, if you are an insurance company, you don't take liability risks. And I was just wondering how old these colleges are getting insured when they have professors who are openly advocating for violence or discrimination against conservative students. 00:43:18 Speaker 2: Oh, I see the question. 00:43:20 Speaker 3: I mean, Blake is not a lawyer, but he plays one on TV sometimes. I would say. My first answer is it's basically just tradition. A lot of norms and traditions we just fought. I mean people, you know, universities are not getting sued for that reason, right, they're sort of protected under the tenure rule, the free speech rule, but there are I mean, listen, there's doctor Antifa at Rutgers University who fled the United States for Spain because he wrote a book called the Antifa Handbook, which is talking about preemptive violence to accomplish political aims. So that would be a perfect example he should be sued for incitement. We just had har Meat Dylan on, you know, and basically she outlined why it's so hard to sue or indict against incitement because you have to has to be an imminent threat. Candidly, some of these laws, this jurisprudence is tricky when you're trying to sue somebody for this. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's a fair question, Blake. 00:44:20 Speaker 11: Would there be pressure on the insurance companies like not to ensure this because it's a liability. 00:44:24 Speaker 7: Of miss I mean you'd think, But I mean, frankly, there's a general problem where there's not as many. First of all, I guess universities aren't always as vulnerable to lawsuits as you'd hope. A lot of them are state institutions. It's often very difficult. It's surprisingly difficult to sue the state for the amount that you should be able to. And then of course private institutions, they're often allowed to discriminate, or even if we have laws that say you're not allowed to discriminate. For a long time, there's effectively been a carve out for universities. You see this in a lot of things. They've just been allowed to get away with a lot of practices. That's, for example, why these students for fair Admission. Supreme Court case over affirmative action was so important that Harvard other Ivy League schools systematically discriminated against white applicants against Asian applicants. Everyone knew they were doing it. The evidence was extremely flagrant that they were doing it. It's obviously against our constitution and against our laws, and they were just allowed to do it. Because Ivy League schools are popular. Ivy League schools are rich and influential, they're kind of allowed to shape the way the laws enforced, regardless of what the law says. And we need a long term effort to change those norms and enforce those norms. That's one reason I'm very glad that Trump administration has bullied these Ivy League schools a bit over this. They've gone after Columbia and some other schools because we actually need to set the long term standard that yeah, anti conservative discrimination won't be tolerated by our government, anti white, anti male, anti straight. We need to basically say, yeah, when the law said that discriminated is not allowed, that's not some one way street. Actually needs to apply to everyone, and I'm very glad that the administration has made a priority of that. I can't speak specifically to the insurance question. 00:46:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, they wouldn't ensure them if if they felt like it was going to be a loser. Let's just say that. And I think universities have a lot of protections in place. All Right, who's next? We got Tim, Tim, welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow i' mute yourself? 00:46:24 Speaker 12: Hey, get definitely everybody. 00:46:26 Speaker 7: How you guys doing. 00:46:26 Speaker 2: We're doing great? Thank you? How are you doing? 00:46:29 Speaker 5: I'm doing well? Thanks. 00:46:30 Speaker 12: So a couple of questions. One, Andrew, you mentioned a week or two ago that I think you'd found the very first podcast you and Charlie did together, and I was not listening at that time, but I would love to hear that show. Could we get that dropped into the podcast mix? 00:46:49 Speaker 7: Like you guys? 00:46:50 Speaker 2: I love that? Yeah, I think that's a great idea. We'll do it. 00:46:54 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll do like a special Saturday or Sunday episode and it'll be like the very first c K. Yeah, we were in a we were so when we first started the podcast, we were partnered with a group called podcast one and uh the founder, Norm uh had actually he was the founder of Westwood one, and so we got connected with him and we uh, we didn't know what we were doing. So we uh we started. They were like, okay, when's your first episode coming out? Like, well, aren't you gonna give us some like a microphone and some gear, like where's the studio? And they're like, sure, come on over, and so we just went over to their offices and they stuck us in like an office and gave us a microphone and a Zoom recorder and it was like, okay. 00:47:37 Speaker 2: I guess this is what was what we do. 00:47:40 Speaker 3: And so yeah, Charlie and I talked about what we want to talk about and uh and uh you kind of built a show just sitting he and I in a in a in a little office room in Los Angeles and made the made the first episode and then I think we Our next episode was an interview with Don junior. 00:47:59 Speaker 2: Uh, so I that that's how I remember. But anyways, we should we should re up those episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great. So they all are. 00:48:05 Speaker 3: They are all available now on the RSS feed, so you know, obviously there's a ton of episodes. You gotta scroll all the way down, which is kind of a pain, but it is there, and we made them available to everybody, and I've been getting lots of great feedback about that. So just took some doing and a little bit of money, which had to throw some money at the problem here, but we got it up. And so all of the original Charlie episodes are up on the podcast, and we encourage you guys please. 00:48:28 Speaker 2: Take take advantage of that. But yeah, we will do that. Great idea. And you have another question, right I do. I don't know you guys. 00:48:35 Speaker 12: Are you guys are supporting chip Roy? And I love I love your recommendation. So I'm in Texas, lifelong Texan, and so I'm not planning to vote for chip Roy. A couple of as with Cornyn as my senator forever, I'm kind of I'm very leary of Texas and politicians have been burned, I mean, and so a couple of things that Chip did was he called for Pimpact and to resign, which troubles me. He was one of the few House Republicans that opposed efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election results. He supported Ron de Santus, which I'm okay with that. I don't have an issue with that, but he was pretty sharply critical of Trump during that time. Another thing that he did that bothers me is he defended Liz Cheney and said she should be commended, and then he criticized Trump for pressuring Pence. And so those are things that kind of really rubbed me the wrong way. And I know you guys know him well, so I just kind of wanted to get yeah thoughts on that. Maybe you can talk me. 00:49:34 Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, I'm not listening. 00:49:37 Speaker 12: I mean to see right now. 00:49:38 Speaker 3: Listen what I will say in the Texas A g race. So one thing you have to understand about there's some history there between Ken Paxton and Chip Roy, Right, Chip Roy worked in the Attorney General's office and they I mean, I suffice to say they have history, right, Yeah, So I try and we are supporting Ken Paxton for Senate and we love Ken Paxon. He was just at our Baylor event with us. His team's amazing, by the way. I love those guys. And you know, sometimes in politics people have beef okay, And that doesn't necessarily mean that Chip is a bad guy because he's he has a history with Ken Paxson. They don't like each other candidly, and that's because there's a lot of water under that bridge. But that doesn't mean that Chip Roy is not a rock rib conservative. Chip Roy is fighting on the issues of Islamification of Texas. He's hardcore, here's the other thing. And he's big on immigration. So for those two things, and furthermore, Charlie was close with Chip. Charlie and Chip had a really close relationship that spans a number of years. 00:50:42 Speaker 2: Chip. 00:50:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, there's a lot of people in the base that that don't understand this dynamic. But Chip is a rock rib conservative that has come to some disagreements and friction points with the administration. There's no doubt he's managed, though to his credit, to kind of keep them simmering when they when they bubbled up and kind of put those to bed, put those to rest. 00:51:06 Speaker 2: They do butt heads, but that's just what happens when you got alphas. 00:51:09 Speaker 3: So you got you got Trump who's in alpha, and you got Chip who's in alpha, and they butt head. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: Sometimes I would. 00:51:14 Speaker 3: Say, Chip, I don't I agree with you on the Liz Cheney stuff. You know, for sure I would say that Chip would probably give you a different answer nowadays. Secondly, I would say that, you know, he's a very principal guy. One thing that Blake appreciates about him is that he's a principal guy. So even if he's gonna disagree with Trump, he's gonna have a principle for that. And and I think you can depend on him. That's my read on Chip Roy. I think he's a good man. I think he's a hard fighter. He's certainly an alpha though, and he'll he'll uh, he'll, you know, he'll let you know if he disagrees with you. 00:51:45 Speaker 7: I feel like, if you have if you have a lawmaker who has been one hundred percent on Trump's side in every single dispute, there's actually probably something a little off with him, because you know, Trump is unpredictable and mercurial, and at that point you kind of have to suspect this person might just be out for themselves. They might just be trying to enhance their own career, whereas with Chip you can sense he is really in it for the principles and the values that we care about, and that that can go too far. Sometimes they end up turning against the movement because they sour too much, they fight with Trump or with the movement too much. But I think there's a right balote. 00:52:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, we like Thomas. 00:52:23 Speaker 2: We go back with Thomas, you know. 00:52:25 Speaker 3: See that's the thing Trump Trump can sometimes things happen and it's personal for him. But listen, I mean Chip Roy's got basically like one hundred percent rating on conservative scorecards, so he's got his head in all the right places and the priority in all the right places. 00:52:41 Speaker 2: So we like Chip. But we've been. 00:52:45 Speaker 3: Really fortunate to work with a lot of great partners over the years at The Charlie Kirk Show. But some relationships are just different. Noble Gold Investments is one of them. They've been a long time friend of this show. They were here during the growth. They help many of you in our audience take real steps to protect your wealth. 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We are halfway through our ask us anything. We see a lot of you in the in that we got. We got a lot of questions. 00:54:03 Speaker 2: Don't worry, but we've seen a lot of you in that chat that aren't asking questions, So feel free. 00:54:08 Speaker 3: We've joined you are you guys always log on and you should you should take part join it. 00:54:13 Speaker 7: Yeah, we love it when we get like completely. 00:54:15 Speaker 3: New question as absolutely Okay, all right, who's up next? 00:54:19 Speaker 10: We got Anthony, he's back, Anthony. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: Welcome. 00:54:23 Speaker 13: Hey guys. Uh, before you get to my questions too, I can actually give you a little information on your first callor about that nuclear energy Look up Codec Eastman Park in Kodak here in Rochester, New York. They're talking about putting a nuclear power plant in it. It's a new, updated one, so it's kind of something different for the area because we need energy in New York State because they decided to go to Soulo and Wind and it's not doing well. So shifting to my questions, I heard Harmony at the end of the first segment talk about AI and jobs and everything. So my question is with that, should companies be asking it when you online and submit an application at the very end, please tell if your male, female or other what your race is. Should they be asking those questions because you're not really finding the best qualified candidates. When you ask those questions, you're kind of like looking for a quote of the film and is AI now going to be used to start doing that to fill quotas with companies. 00:55:23 Speaker 3: Well, I think what Harmeat's lawsuit is regarding is the bias and the answers and the data that's going in garbage in, garbage out. So they're basically trying to make sure that the answers that are provided by AI companies in state of Colorado at least that they are sufficiently woke, sufficiently expressive of underrepresented minority groups. Right, So I think that's specifically what that particular lawsuit is about. But a lot of the AI companies based in Silicon Valley in California, I can tell you they have requirements on your board. You have to have a certain number of like minority folks on your board. You can't have just straight white male Christians. That that doesn't fly in California. So there are there are there already are DEI requirements in certain states where these AI companies are operating. But the Colorado lawsuit seems to be specifically about the algorithm itself, the DEI algorithm. 00:56:18 Speaker 7: Blake Well, I what I would want to note is I feel with modern AI, there's like almost new. It's not even just the specific stuff they ask, So you mentioned yeah on a job application if they're asking if your male or female, or what your race is. But with AI, there's there's so much potential that we might not even be able to gauge. Like the AI when they're advanced enough, they might you know, you put in your address and to any one of us and addresses a random thing. But the AI has the capacity to go, oh, yeah, well that addresses in an one hundred black neighborhood, so we already know this person's race just based on that. Or it can know, oh that that name, that that name is very likely to be from this. It can do and it can do this endlessly, and it can check right on all these things that a normal person would not have the time or energy to run down. And then on top of that, they can have biases that aren't even necessarily intentional. That's why I asked Harmeat about that. There's a guy, a blogger Arctotherium, who he has a substack post where he just takes all the different AI models and he's asking them to rank resumes, or he'll just straight up ask them weight the value of these different lives based on these different traits, like Are they gay? Are they straight? Are they black? Are they white? Nationalities? Are they Palestinian, Israeli, Chinese? And so on. He'll even ask them to do it in different languages, and when you do different languages you'll get different weights. So some languages that'll come out more egalitarian, but then in English it's coming out more biased. And this is all without being told to do it. It's that they've been fed in all this information, all this data, and in Western culture for the past half century, we've had a lot of propaganda. You know, white people bad, other you know, Israel bad, different groups bad, other groups good, and they've gotten the message, oh well, some some lives actually matter more than others. We're gonna get that discrimination from these bots if we're not actively trying to root it out. 00:58:15 Speaker 10: Yeah, you see it in their code. 00:58:16 Speaker 14: Like on chat Gypt, you could go and be like, criticize X y Z, and I'll say, no, I can't do that. But then if you say criticize white people, it'll give you like this long list of stuff of why white people. 00:58:25 Speaker 2: Are to criticize Mohammed. 00:58:30 Speaker 7: You'll have a tough time. That's just I think that's hard coded stuff. At least I think they have clear crime stop that's put in, you know, don't bash religious leaders of religions that are known to get a little uh mostly peaceful. 00:58:42 Speaker 10: Well, it goes even worse. 00:58:43 Speaker 7: But I'm much more raid. Frankly, not so much. Okay, if Dario Amada wants to go and add crime stop to his AI, at least it's blatant and obviously he's doing it. I'm much more worried about AI machines that just have bias in them because we've fed them every single piece of text we've ever produced, and we just let the dice fall as they may, and they end up with wildly biased outcomes. 00:59:07 Speaker 14: Yeah, and they'll be like crime stats, where you like, find black crime statistics and it won't give you the answer, and you have to continually be like, no, it's there, find it, and then they it eventually finds it, but you it like codes itself so that it doesn't want to give you the stats until you really push it. 00:59:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, gotcha. 00:59:24 Speaker 13: My other couock question is this, with the SPLC issue that has come out this week, are we actually gonna see anyone that is donated money that knew what they were doing? Possibly arrested, like or any politician that's gotten money from it, you know, because it seems like we, okay, we know all these things are happening, but they kind of get stalled or they take too long. 00:59:46 Speaker 7: Well again, you don't want to get too frustrated, because I think the desire for immediate results often it leads to half baked cases. It leads to screwing things up. 00:59:56 Speaker 12: Right. 00:59:56 Speaker 7: The left is very good at the long tun if you want an example, this didn't even exceed, but it caused a lot of damage. The left wanted to take out the NRA because they were an effective gun rights lobby, and so the New York AG's office. They did this at the state level because they know federally, we can lose the White House, but will never lose New York state government. So they made a left wing get the NRA office at the New York AG's Office, and they just built the case over years. It was basically a decade long process to try to bring it down. And I think it would behoove us to try to create We have a bit of that going in Texas, but we know Texas is a somewhat purplish state. I'd love it if in a state like Tennessee or Missouri as well, like we should expand our state ag offices so they're capable of more long range work. But back to your original question, first, we should be happy they are going against the SPLC. This will cause a lot of damage to the organization. Even if they don't fully dissolve it. You can do a lot with a good sustained investigation. Technically, the claim right now is that they were defrauding their donors. That's what the wire fraud claim is. They were messaging them and saying, give us money to go after right wing groups. We're actually funding me. 01:01:03 Speaker 3: The meaning that a Clooney or a JP Morgan or Tim Cook would be victims. 01:01:10 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're victims right now. Now. It is possible some people were aware of this, if they can find communications within the organization, for example, they were setting up these shell groups to disguise that these donations were happening. If they find specific people were ordering this and explaining why they were doing it, they might get hit. They might not be the big names. It's gonna you know, the people who run the SPLC are not that famous themselves. But it would be nice and hopefully we can bring similar operations against similar groups. But I think we should be happy that we have what we have already brought and we should trust the process. 01:01:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and like, just to underscore it, this this guy, you know, his name was, what was it, I forget his name, the proter the you know, I just I keep coming back to this. But this guy in a video the SBLC h Mark Mark Potok, that's what his name was, had a graphic on the back of his wall during an interview he did tracking the decline of the white population in the United States, as well as as how many foreigners were moving into Europe. I mean, this is a really bad group that needs to be held accountable. So whether the donors get get it exactly is less interesting to me. I of course I'm open to it, would love that, But I just want to see them completely defanged. 01:02:29 Speaker 2: I don't want. I want. 01:02:30 Speaker 3: Their influence must be tarnished completely, forever, permanently. And they have almost this eight hundred million dollar endowment that also needs to be taken taking a look at I will tell you so. The SBLC said the Great Replacement was a conspiracy theory while they were tracking the metrics of the great replacement. I want everybody to kind of internalize that. All right, next question, what do we add here? 01:02:54 Speaker 7: Kyrie? 01:02:55 Speaker 2: I think Kyrie. 01:02:56 Speaker 15: Okay, Hello, gentlemen, Happy Friday. 01:02:58 Speaker 2: I have happy Briday. 01:03:00 Speaker 15: Thank you. I have a quick question before my main one, and that is my work schedule, very very rarely permits me to join these zoom calls. So how do I submit a question? Even if I'm not able to join the live call? 01:03:13 Speaker 10: You could email us into the show. 01:03:16 Speaker 2: And we can't. They get on the message board here and. 01:03:18 Speaker 10: Just they could do that as well. 01:03:20 Speaker 14: But usually if you can't access the zoom in the timeframe that we're on it, you can also email us. 01:03:25 Speaker 7: You can email us. We're always checking it now. We don't always see every single email lives, so that's one way. But yeah, Also, if you can't join by voice, join the call and you can submit a text question. We've had a few where they say I can't speak right now, but here's my text question. That's the most consistent way to make sure we see it because we have Danny always monitoring the zoom call and he sees everything that's in. 01:03:46 Speaker 15: Okay, all right, well, thank you. I'll keep that in mind. Okay, my main question for the day was I would really love to try to go out to Arizona and help with ballot chasing. I've never done anything like that, but listening to Charlie and then y'all talk all the time, I really would like to get involved. And there's nothing like that in my area. I live in a pretty red state, and that's great, but I really want to go out and help if I can't. That having been said, I need to know kind of when is the best time. I know y'all probably have trainings that you have to do. I just I guess I need to know any kind of details that I can make, plans, ask off from work, all that kind of stuff. 01:04:28 Speaker 3: We uh, we do trainings all the time. So there's that, so you rest assured. We have literally right now, there's trainings running all week every week. A lot of that is for staff, so for volunteers, we will be ramping up. So we've uh we've inquired of Tyler Boyer. 01:04:43 Speaker 7: I sent since you had your text question in advance, I sent that over to Tyler. He did say as far as the best time to come out, second half of October. A lot of stuff you want to. We, of course we do ramp up early, but that that's the peak time. 01:04:56 Speaker 2: By the way, the weather is going to be awesome in October. 01:04:59 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's only gonna be like ninety eight degrees. 01:05:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be great. That's good. That's great. By the way, Blake's whole thing. I don't know if you know this, Kyrie, I don't know you love do you? You live in a warm, warm state judging by your Yeah, I live. 01:05:11 Speaker 15: In the Deep South and we have high humidity and a lot of heat. And actually I prefer the heat over the cold. And I also love rain. So Blake talking about the Arizona Desert, you know, yeah. 01:05:21 Speaker 7: Rains all the time, evaporates. 01:05:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:05:24 Speaker 3: Blake's big complaint is that Arizona is too rainy and too cold. 01:05:29 Speaker 10: It hasn't rained though, in like a month. 01:05:30 Speaker 7: Yeah, but rain. We'll gather typhoon eventually. 01:05:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, we get the we get the what we call it the I'm new here too, you know, the rain. It's the it's not the typhoon boobs. That's not the hobbs. Like the boobs are the dirt monsoons, thank you. We get the monsoon rain here, which. 01:05:50 Speaker 10: Is just rain. 01:05:50 Speaker 7: I don't know second half of October. Also, I will know the turning point. We have the app. Of course you can use that to text people, uh, call people and postcards without traveling, and so that's a way to get engaged at a distance. Obviously the in person stuff is the highest value, but that is a way you can get involved even if you're in a deep red state that's not being contented. 01:06:12 Speaker 3: Well, and what's cool about when you volunteer, actually you we we book out these these hotels so you get advantage, take advantage of the hotel blocks. 01:06:20 Speaker 2: So we bring you here and then we train you, and then we. 01:06:23 Speaker 3: Send you out and then you have actually actual access to staff to help you if you have questions or you know, confusion as things come up, talking points. So it's a great resource that we're able to provide for you when you do come out and volunteer. So I totally recommend you take that up. Take us up on that, Kyrie. 01:06:39 Speaker 2: Next question, it's from Mick. It's going on, Mick. Unmute yourself. Welcome to the show, Harry, what a surprise. 01:06:48 Speaker 16: I want to complain about them not going after groups. 01:06:51 Speaker 2: And we got the SPLC within a week. 01:06:53 Speaker 3: So that was all you mix, that was all you Yeah, we we took we took your request. 01:06:59 Speaker 2: We sent it to the. 01:06:59 Speaker 7: Deal Jay and they said, oh oh, why didn't we think of that. We're very glad that you were able to have that, I mean, we all. 01:07:06 Speaker 16: Want And then so with that, the SPLC was one of the biggest players. You know, we had them involved with censoring conservatives, you know, on the tech platforms for about a decade before Elon finally want Twitter. What are some of the other groups that were involved in that maybe potentially involved in stoking you know, violence, like the SPLC was that the dj can get their sights on. 01:07:32 Speaker 10: Well, the ad L comes to mind. 01:07:38 Speaker 7: The ADL is definitely a big one because the a d L has basically done they've been involved in essentially shakedowns where they've encouraged ad boycotts and then reached out to organizations with basically like, you know, we you know, we could overcome this arrangement, you know, we could maybe come to some sort of new relationship that's basically support our cause, give us money, that sort of thing. I'd love them anyone involved in those tech boycotts that they really ramped. 01:08:03 Speaker 3: Up would be like Color of Change with exactly a boycotts for conservative groups care the pro Islamo group. 01:08:11 Speaker 7: Yeah, so groups that organized boycotts twenty twenty, they went after Facebook twenty two, they started going after x or Twitter at the time at all those groups. 01:08:20 Speaker 3: Sleeping Giants decentralized, which has been the trick with Antifa. Human Rights Campaign HRC would be another one which tracks corporate equality scores. 01:08:33 Speaker 2: So you can imagine they've been coercing people just trying to think. 01:08:38 Speaker 3: Sleeping Giants is another one that does those ad campaigns. I mean all these So basically what we have is we you know, you hear about this like you know, our democracy, our democracy. Charlie used to say this all the time. It means our oligarchy. Okay, it's their power structure. So you have to they any group that doesn't align perfectly with their value set is precluded from our democra right when Democrats use that expression. So they have this whole network of nonprofits that essentially establish a permission structure on the left and those groups, I guarantee you will be up to no good. And there's actually a new uh this is IRS ruling that basically is forcing nine ninety disclosures from like the the Tides Foundation or Arabella, which is which is pushing these these these dollars out right, because a lot of times will happen on the left is big high network donors will invest in one of these large groups, and those large groups kind of funnel the money to the smaller groups, and you lose track of where that money came from, right, because money's fungible, and so now they're going to have to disclose where that money is going once it hits like an Arabella or Tides. 01:09:47 Speaker 2: And these groups are insidious. They are destroying. 01:09:50 Speaker 3: The constitutional republic that our founders set up, and they're doing it under the guise of civil rights. 01:09:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have one more question. 01:09:58 Speaker 7: I want us to hit it real quick. We have two minutes. May alright, give us your question really quick and we'll try to answer it. Yes we can, we can. 01:10:06 Speaker 8: My question is prology gracefully approach a family member who takes every opportunity to criticize Christian and conservative and political beliefs. 01:10:19 Speaker 7: All right, that's a pretty well gracefully approach. Well, I guess it would depend on context, because I get the sense if they're if they're going out of the way to bully you or bash you. The first thing is you just can't concede any frame, like you have to just say, okay, what of it? What? What's the deal you? I guess if they're going after religious beliefs that it's a little different line boundary. 01:10:46 Speaker 3: And so here's what I would do. And I take this directly from Charlie. So Charlie would get badgered about his Christian conservative beliefs on campus, and what would he do. He would ask questions. He would instantly ask questions, so, Okay, why do you believe that? Okay, so you believe this because of X, Y and Z. Do you also believe X Y and Z or abc? So he would start drilling down to get to core assumptions that that person is making. And then when you see something that they say that's completely untrue, then you could be like, well, but that's not true. So do you still have this gripe? I mean, here's the thing with family. Family's tough. You gotta love your family, but sometimes you gotta have boundaries with your family too, and it's okay to put those up in a loving way to protect yourself protect your family, protect your kids, and maybe just set some ground rules for engagement in the future. 01:11:35 Speaker 7: Questions are good, they don't often don't expect to be put on defense. 01:11:38 Speaker 5: True. 01:11:43 Speaker 7: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com.