Deport the Third World + What Is An American?

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I was watching the Great American Fair state Fair last night, the kickoff with President Trump. I thought it was beautiful. There was B two flyovers, F sixteen's, F thirty five's. Yeah, Brooke Rawlin, Sean Duffy, you had all kinds of cabinet secretaries there. It was a beautiful display of Americana. I was very happy to watch it. I hope you guys take a look at the all the Great America Great What is it now, I'm getting confused, Great America State Fair? Yes, okay, anyways, the name is what the name is. Anyways, there's a lot to be proud of in this country. And can you just imagine for a second, if Kamala Harris would have won, it would have started off with a land acknowledgment. It would have been an apology tour. They would have been talking about how systemically oppressive, Well they've been racist and all this stuff. We don't have any of that. We got UFC fights and B two bombers. It's great, it's way better. We got way better. Listen, there's it's a celebration of American innovations. You got jet engines, you got fifty six or one hundred and fifty different exhibits, you got fifty states having their exhibit there, plus the six territories. It's a beautiful display of Americana. I just love you got Maha mondays so Gleyfa State had to win in this, Oh they. 00:02:57 Speaker 4: Did, they did. And that's what that's what we're diving into. 00:02:59 Speaker 2: Well, well, partly I think we should start blake with the big Supreme Court wins yes on immigration. So we have some good news and we have some bad news. 00:03:09 Speaker 3: We have four cases today. I'd say three everyone would consider a win, and the one is going to be much more divided because we also got the Supreme Court ruling on guns in Hawaii. Yes, I'll mention that one in passing. Basically, Hawaii had a law that said, if you have a legal concealed carry permit, you can't bring it on any private property that's open to the public. They struck that downy and so big win for gun owners in Hawaii, big win for gunnarners in any blue state where they still do everything they can to block the right to bare arms, but much bigger than that. We had two rulings related to immigration today. We're still waiting on the birthright citizenship one, and we remain skeptical, but it's important to note when we get wins. 00:03:50 Speaker 2: So first, the Supreme Court ruled that. 00:03:52 Speaker 3: The Trump administration is allowed to get rid of temporary protected status specific for Haitians and for Syrians in the country. TPS, as they call it, means that people who are in the US illegally, it is established they're here illegally, they are temporarily blocked from being deported because of an emergency in their countries. 00:04:16 Speaker 4: It's not very temporary. 00:04:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what drives you nuts when you see this stuff, because they say, well, they're not illegals, they're under TPS protection. They can stay here, they can work all this uff. No, just because you put a name on them, just because you gain the system, just because the Democrats basically want to flood the country with third worlders doesn't make it legal. These are essentially illegal people. The Trump administration is moving to get rid of them. The Supreme Court had the Trump administration's back six three. So here we go. I want to take you back down memory lane just a smidge to February twenty twenty four, and let's play this beautiful Alzheimer twenty nine in Springfield. 00:04:55 Speaker 5: They're eating the dogs the people that came in. 00:04:58 Speaker 6: They're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: That's right. Not February. Actually think it was mislabeled. August debates, Well that was August. I think it was. I think it was August. Maybe July. But that was a great moment. And then full circle, here you go, top thirty five. 00:05:22 Speaker 6: The Supreme Court out with another decision, this time regarding the fate of certain migrants living with temporary protected status. There are a bunch of them, and Shannon Braem joins us again with more Shannon, how do we read this one? 00:05:34 Speaker 7: Okay, So, Dana, we read it as a win for the Trump administration, which is wanted to wipe out temporary protected status for more than a million people who are living here in this country. These cases centered on a number of Haitian and Syrian refugees who were here in the country, and basically what the court has said is that they can't challenge this decision by the Department of Homeland Security, by the administration, that they're the ones who get to make the assessment about whether they leave or not. 00:05:59 Speaker 2: So that number a million, yeah, like put that in perspective for us, blake a million? 00:06:07 Speaker 3: Uh, comparison to what I mean, that's like it's one in what'd you say? 00:06:10 Speaker 2: One in twenty Are Americans? Are people not in America? No? No? 00:06:14 Speaker 3: I mean, as the example is, we had about three hundred thousand people, three hundred and fifty thousand Haitians are under temporary protected status because they gave them at twice. Literally the Biden administration did this. The first one they got under Obama. There was that big earthquake in Haiti in twenty eleven, and then they still had it for that, but then the Biden administration did bonus TPS in twenty twenty one because they had another crisis in Haiti, So anyone who came after that they also get it. So you had three hundred and fifty thousand, that is one in every thousand people in America roughly is specifically a Haitian under temporary protected status. Yeah, and now all of them are eligible to be removed. 00:06:53 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing. And I will tell you so that there was a second win that basically the Supreme Court same six to three decision, and it's the Mullin v. Al otro Lado, the asylum turnback decision. So explain that one play. 00:07:10 Speaker 3: So that one is that it's actually a very funny one because it's about technically who has arrived in the United States. And it's because the federal law says, once you've arrived in the United States, you're allowed to claim asylum. And the Trump administration has said, if you're at a border crossing point, you have not arrived in the United States. You're just at the door of the United States. And so they say we're allowed to turn those people around and say we're not letting them in, so they're not allowed to claim asylum. We know the asylum system is one hundred and ten percent gamed. People know there's five six stories that you give them. I was persecuted for being gay, I was persecuted for my political belie. 00:07:48 Speaker 4: They know what to say. 00:07:50 Speaker 2: By the way, on that point, there's a bunch of NGOs, and. 00:07:53 Speaker 3: NGOs train you and they give them the representation. So we want to call bs on this and say we're not going to let you do this anymore. And so the Trump administration has been saying, yeah, when you arrive at your front door, we're turning you around. You have to This is the remain in Mexico policy, among other things, you remain in Mexico while we consider whether we actually evaluate this. And Supreme Court said that's valid. They're allowed to turn them around at the front door. So one of the increasingly one of the dwindling means through which migrants have to try to worm their way into the United States and remain long term has been closed off. 00:08:29 Speaker 2: And so another win. 00:08:30 Speaker 3: We're getting a win for people in this country illegally getting sent home and people arriving at the front door being turned away, and we want to highlight that because we're where the birthright citizenship case might not go our way. I think a lot of people expect it, and I want to flag. I know, I hope we're wrong, but I want to flag even if that goes against us. All that does is preserve a status quo we've had for a century. And meanwhile it is we're making gains. No, we're making gains. Yeah, we are making gains. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: And by the way, we're the Supreme Court has successfully in two different cases state established common sense in our immigration policy. It's great, it's a very good thing. Obviously, birthright citizenship is the big one. A lot of people are thinking that decision was going to come down this morning. It did not, So we're looking at probably maybe next week, the week after, Right, that's kind of what we're aiming for. That's the big kahuna, and we need them to rule our way. Even if it's a five to four, we'll take it. And again I just say to Chief Justice Roberts, a great country would not allow itself to be gamed by birth tourists and foreigners dropping a baby off on the other side of a border makes zero sense. Got to get rid of that. And if listen, if we don't get the ruling that goes our way, there are legislative options, but I don't want to talk about that right now. It's ridiculous we're even here. So there, So what's interesting about this TPS. I'm just looking into it more so. You know, President Trump has been trying to get rid of TPS Temporary Protected Status for Haitian since twenty seventeen. It was blocked by a lower court in twenty eighteen until time ran out, and then it was restarted by President Biden, as you mentioned. So these you know, are supposedly you know, nonpartisan, you know, just straight down the middle judicial system. They're not activist judges, Oh yes they are. It has taken eight years in seven months for the Supreme Court to step in and right the wrong of the activist judges, the black Robe tyranny in this country. Eight years in seven months for the president to an act a constitutional executive authority. That's insane. 00:10:36 Speaker 3: It's just such a perfect symbol of how sinister the open borders forces are that you'd create something called temporary protecting status which clearly existed for like you're supposed to be deported. Your country got hit by a hurricane. We can't safely send a plane there right now. It's something that was supposed to last a week. 00:10:55 Speaker 2: They do this with Somalia. Two Yeah, Somalians, they get this TPS and they get led into the country. These guys are going back on vacation to visit their you know, cousins. In some minds people, we'll go on. 00:11:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another thing. 00:11:06 Speaker 3: If you're a refugee in America, an asylum secret in America, neither of those statuses precludes you from just visiting your home country that you had to flee because it's unsafe. 00:11:14 Speaker 2: So many jokes to this. Else. 00:11:16 Speaker 3: Salvador are still under temporary protected status because of an earthquake in two thousand and one. I would note I love the Salvadoran government right now, but I don't think they need temporary protected status. 00:11:25 Speaker 4: El Salvador is safer than America. 00:11:27 Speaker 2: Now. I want to highlight a detail here because I know a lot of you and the audience are Christians, and maybe you get asked questions about aren't you supposed to protect the sojournal in your land. Let's talk about this play cut twenty six, because I think it highlights this very well. 00:11:42 Speaker 8: Top twenty six City leaders say an estimated fifteen thousand Haitians called Springfield home, but their temporary protected status, which was extended back in twenty twenty four, is set to end Wednesday, meaning many of them could soon be forced to go back to Haiti, or at least leave the US immigrants. 00:12:01 Speaker 5: He is as important as welcoming Christ himself. 00:12:05 Speaker 2: Okay, that is a common bastardization of the scriptures. Let me explain a couple things. So, first of all, says an Axe that God ordains the nations and boundaries from one man. He made all the nations that they should inhabit the whole earth, and he marked out their appointed times in history in the boundaries of their lands. So borders are good. Right. This is talked about in Deuteronomy thirty two as well as Acts seventeen. Okay, borders are really really good. They come from God. God loves order, God opposes chaos. He spoke order into being in Genesis. He spoke creation into being. All right, So that's first thing. So the Old Testament does talk about strangers and sojourners, but these were not illegal immigrants. These were not invading forces. Okay, there's verses like Leviticus nineteen, love the foreigner as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt and Exodus twenty two to twenty one. They get cited a lot by guys like that that want up to these bleeding heart progressive pastors. Okay, the difference there if you look at the root word gear sojournal stranger that was a legal resident who entered lawfully, submitted to Israel's laws, and often assimilated. Okay, that that is a very distinct difference, okay than what we have now. They were not invaders, they were not welfare migrants, they were not law breakers. Israel had borders, they controlled their entry. They still control their entry. I would love if we had borders as strong as Israel's are today and they enforced rules. Foreigners could be excluded or face consequences if they didn't live up to those commands. So these are a very very different things. Okay. Now, it says in the New Testament you gotta submit to your governing authorities. So if we as the United States of America, the governing authority that was elected duly by the people, deems that TPS. Time is run out, you gotta go. Because that's submitting to the governing authorities. That's a biblical command. And there is last point on me. There is zero, zero command in the scriptures about requiring open borders or amnesty for anybody. That is not a command at all within anywhere within the scripture. 00:14:14 Speaker 3: It's such a weaponized argument that they will make clearly our obligation towards the poor, towards the traveler, these are individual moral requirements upon us. We have to care for travelers, We have to keep here for the vulnerable. It is very mendacious when let's just say it third words, people who frankly usually despise Christianity when they try to weaponize this and say, actually, this is what you have to structure your entire state around. 00:14:44 Speaker 4: It would be like saying we are. 00:14:46 Speaker 3: Supposed to forgive those superscutus, we are supposed to love our enemies, and therefore the state should not punish any criminals, when in fact it's the exact opposite. The state has to fairly punish criminals. They have to protect other cities, and they have to protect the people. 00:15:00 Speaker 2: When you talk about love your neighbor as yourself. How am I supposed to love my fellow American, my neighbor in this country if I'm just opening the borders to any third. 00:15:09 Speaker 3: Openings or allowing criminals to prey on them, I always I find it very important. For example, in in the Bible, Jesus speaks to Roman legionaries, and he doesn't tell them they should lay down their arms, they should quit their jobs. He tells them, don't oppress the people, so don't extort money from them, don't do violence against them, and be content with your wages. So he's saying, do your jobs properly. And doing your job properly if you're a Roman legionaire, would include enforcing the law. It would include protecting other people. It would include fighting sometimes. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a good point. 00:15:42 Speaker 3: That is what good government is. Good government protects the people of your country. It upholds the law, it sets fair laws. You are not doing a Christian thing. When our nation has immigration laws and we ignore them, we throw them out. We force people to accept a bunch of foreigners permanently into their country on the grounds they are sojourners. They're not sojourners if they're moved permanently into here. A person is not a sojourner. If they have moved into your house permanently, they are a new inhabitant. They are a new resident. 00:16:14 Speaker 2: If you meet an immigrant on the street, by all means be kind to them. You should then vote for the government that will remove them. That's how I feel, and I think that's a lot of you guys feel, because we got we were suckers for way too long in this country no more. Thank you, President Trump, and good job to the Supreme Court. We hope you get birthright citizenship right next. 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It's interesting if you go back a year and you look at mom Donnie's election, it was not New Yorkers who were voting for him. It was people who had immigrated here who were voting for him. The actual New Yorkers, the people who were born in and grew up in New York. They wanted someone else, They wanted another actual New Yorker. So I feel like New York is a microcosm, something of an omen a vision in to our future of what will happen if we continue to allow unchecked foreign migration into the country and allow them to take over our elections. Because the reality is when they come here, they don't assimilate anymore. They may have at one time, but they don't anymore. They find their home communities here in the US. They keep their language, they keep their culture, they keep their customs, and they vote together as a block. And that block is not American. So if you are horrified by what you're seeing in New York City. There's only one solution, and the solution is we have to stop this insane mass invasion of four migrants into our country, and we need to stop it now before we lose the country entirely. 00:19:39 Speaker 3: I'm finding myself totally amazed. I saw I can't remember who said it, but a tweet. This is my last stay voting as a Democrat in New York because I'm so upset by the direction. 00:19:48 Speaker 4: The party is gone. And I know you're rolling your eyes. I'm rolling in my eyes. 00:19:52 Speaker 3: Where all we can think is every single thing the Democrat Party has done for the past fifty years essentially, has been attempting to bring this about. You have decided to bring in the third World. Did you think you were not bringing in third world political ideologies, which is going to include anti Americanism, anti capitalism, anti private property, anti Semitism, anti white people, that was all brought in, that all existed fifty years ago. What did you think was going to happen? 00:20:22 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's kind of amazing. I watched Dan Goldman, who was this actual Nepo baby who lost his primary. He's an heir to I think a gene's fortune that his grandparents, earned bought himself a seat in Congress and thought that he could protect himself by being super duper anti Trump all the time, no matter how deranged and delusional it was, and by just voting for again unchecked mass immigration. And the problem that I think these Democrats are starting to realize they have is that when they allowed all these people in, they thought these people would stay kept. They thought that these immigrants coming in would understand that they're just very small clients within the Democrat Party. They were there to vote with the coalition. They weren't there to make decisions for it or lead for it. And so you have Goldman there, who has been sponsoring and pushing this stuff all the time, suddenly shocked to learn that, Wow, all these people we brought over here because we thought they would be helpful with the Democrat Party, they actually want to be in charge now. And that's not how this was supposed to work. They were supposed to understand that we were going to get to be in charge and they were just going to be our little pets. And so it's just a fascinating thing to watch among the Democrat establishment to now they're basically doctor Frankenstein and they're realizing that their monster is more powerful than they are and they don't know what to do about it. 00:21:46 Speaker 2: There's a tweet here from Stephen Miller, who I know, Sean, You and I both have an admiration for He's tweeted, I said, half of all college graduates in New York City are immigrants or from immigrant how So, when observers say college grads in New York City are embracing communism, this is not a homegrown phenomenon. 00:22:07 Speaker 3: And he points that out because people have tried to say, if you look at the demographics in New York, it was it was young people, college graduates. They were the ones who were driving the communist thing. It's not the traditional Hispanic working class that's been the bedrock of the Democrat party there. 00:22:24 Speaker 4: And so people are saying. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: Actually, no, this is just this is white liberals who are driving this al it's not an immigration thing, and as he points out, it's just it's fictitious. They're trying to have it both ways here. It is one hundred percent immigration related. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: We have imported foreigners, we have imported third worlders, and we have imported their grudges, their tribalism and their backwards ways. That's a fact when you look at New York City and these are the chickens coming home to roost. And yet this is another point that a lot of people are making, is that they were willing to stand by with all the anti white bias, all the anti white racism, and now Dan Goldman can't even get served coffee at New York City because he's a Jew. They now have turned on him. They eat me last. Democrats are finally paying and I think it'll be interesting to see what I'm not happy about this, By the way, I don't think this is a good thing. Nobody should be excited that this is happening in New York, which should be America's greatest city, the city that gave us Donald Trump. Right, this is a terrible, terrible omen that portends terrible, terrible things for the country and years to come. So what do we do now, Sean, you have some I saw you retweet an interesting take, and I'm curious if you stand by it, we can show it. It's from Esthetica where it's talking about the nineteen fifty four Nationality Act and Communist Control Act of nineteen fifty four. What do you think of this. Do you think this is a viable solution. 00:23:52 Speaker 5: Well, I actually think our solutions are very simple and easy. The people who came over here and lied when they took oath of citizenship, people who have dual loyalties, people who are not loyal to America, who reject everything we believe in. They need to be denaturalized and removed. 00:24:09 Speaker 2: Period. 00:24:10 Speaker 5: If you are a communist, you are not allowed to be a citizen because you are against our entire way of government. You cannot come over and take, honestly the citizenship pledge with two fingers crossed behind your back while you plot a demise on behalf of communism. So that's number one. They all need to go back. And then number two, you just close the border. And like, I don't feel I'm being unreasonable when I say, you know what, let's close the border for I don't know, fifty years and let's see what happens. Let's see what happens to our country when we say, you know what, this country is just for Americans. It is for, as the founder said, our posterity, which means our children, that our descendants. So I don't think it's a difficult problem. It mechanically, it is very easy. You run one of the people who are communists abversives and you send them all back and then you stop letting people in. 00:25:05 Speaker 2: Now. 00:25:05 Speaker 5: The problem is that actually takes a fair amount of courage and spine and testicular fortitude, which sadly is an endangered species in Washington, d C. Because you know, between the two parties, the Democrats are just all in on the invasion, and then the Republicans are largely a bunch of cowards with a few exceptions. So what we need is actually a steal infusion into the spines of Republican members or they need to be sent packing as well. So it's it's a simple solution mechanically, getting there is the difficult part. Getting Republicans who actually have balls and a spine is the difficult thing we have to face right now. 00:25:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and when I love this idea though, because a lot of these people are there, three of them are probably going to be head to Congress, right, So fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization. 00:25:52 Speaker 3: Yes, that's actually dar Liza Chevalier. She's the Haitian Muslim conbri Yeah, founded of a group that says they're fighting for the eradication of westerns. 00:26:02 Speaker 2: You are fighting for the eradication of Western civilization. Per that aesthetica tweet that you retweeted, can we denaturalize her? Can we send her packing and the whole? Just to make sure I'm being clear about this idea, it's saying, you know, denaturalize and deport them using the Immigration Nationality Act in Communist Control Act of nineteen fifty four. They're completely within their rights to do this. It will create a national scandal that will force mainstream Democrats to defend these radical communists, which they do not want to do. They want to ignore them. Most importantly, it sets a precedent and severely hampers the long term plans of the DSA communists left, which, by the way, Politico had an article this morning saying they're coming for twenty twenty eight. Do you think the country could handle this national scandal of denaturalizing and deporting an incoming congressman. 00:26:52 Speaker 5: I don't think it's whether the country, you know, politically can handle it. If you have gang green in one of your limbs, can you handle allowing the gangreing to metastasize and take your whole body amputation is very painful, it's not particularly fun. It seems to me to be better than dying of gangreen So yeah, a lot of times if you talk to people who have had cancer, chemo is really, really crappy. Radiation is crappy. It's better than the alternative. And we have allowed our country now to be so taken over by this that now the entire body is at risk, and so we have to make the decision do we want the body to die or do we want to do the hard and maybe painful things that have to be done to save the body. Politics, I think that's an easy answer. I want to save the country. I want to save America. I want to save our political body, and that means doing things like sometimes you have to cut off the gang green limbs if you want to save the body. 00:27:49 Speaker 2: I'm thinking right now of Hassan piker Man, who has called for capitalist blood in the street, who was born in the United States and then was raised in Turkey and now was coming back and he's pushing a lot of this garbage. He's called for the death of conservatives. That's what we have. That sounds gangrenous enough to me, Sean, I want to show you this graph. This is the foreign born numbers and share are higher now than at any other time in American history. We go back from eighteen fifty to twenty twenty five. This is from centered from immigration studies. So we have fifty three point three million form born. I think that number is low actually, And if you you know, we were talking about the super centennial, I think is what we are or whatever versus nineteen seventy six. And we've talked about how in nineteen seventy six it felt like the entire country put aside its partisan divides. There was actually a lot of political tumult. In nineteen seventy six, there was a lot of controversy, but the nation still came together. It felt like one nation, massive, massive celebration. And this time it does feel different. I love the celebration, just to be clear, I love it, and I think everybody should throw their whole hearts into it and celebrate this country's to fiftieth. But if you look when that happened, it was at a time when we had approximately the lowest in history number of foreign born people living in this country, and there was there's a reason the country felt more united. There was a reason the country felt more cohesive. And this is what we've done to ourselves since basically the nineteen eighties. Look at that graph. I think this graph should be pinned on everybody's feed, and we should have it framed in the office. This is not the way to run a country. 00:29:36 Speaker 5: Gen No, it's not. And there's an additional fact there. You know, since seventy six, in those fifty years, we probably murdered conservatively sixty million American daties. So not only did we import the Third World and import in the rest of the world's religion and customs and cultures and languages, we started killing our own people in mass and so of course we're a transformed country. 00:30:02 Speaker 9: Now. 00:30:02 Speaker 5: We are absolutely not the country that we were in nineteen seventy six, or nineteen eighty six, or even nineteen ninety six, or even two thousand and one. I mean, even after nine to eleven, everyone understood that how awful that was. Democrat and Republican. Now that detent didn't last all that long, but we were all united and understanding this was bad and you can't have something in this country. We now have people in the Democrat Party saying America deserved it, so we're not the same country, and it's not something that happened accidentally. It was a very deliberate subversion of our culture in our history. It happens through immigration, through mass importation, and it also happened through education through the university system, where we have university professors, many of whom are literal terrorists who were put in prison for bombing places like the Capitol. We have those people telling people, telling students America is uniquely bad. The nation that ended slavery, by the way, a human institution for thousands of years. The nation that ended that is actually bad because it tolerated it for a very small amount of time. So the message we have been having crammed into our heads for fifty years is that America is bad. We're all a racists. Anyone can become American, let the world in, and if you disagree with that, you're a racist xenophobe. And then we act shocked that somehow we are in a completely transformed, radically different country where half the country hates it, half the country wants to dissolve it, and the other half is left wondering how the heck did we get here? 00:31:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've stopped wondering how we got here. I think we we've identified the root cause. And it happened without anybody voting for it. It happened with any Americans feeling like they had to say in it. It was you know, it was basically heartseller. And then it was the nineteen ninety Immigration Act. And until we get serious about a immigration moratorium. To your point, let's do it for fifty years. Let's see what happens. Let's see if we can do a net zero. You could still, by the way, with net zero, you still get two hundred thousand a year because you're elite. And what net zero is, just for those at home who we don't know, is we have a net outflow of Americans that go choose to live in other countries Rosie O'Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres. They leave, and we say Sayanara, don't let the door hit you. We have about two hundred thousand of those every year. So you could still replace the ones that leave. We could bring in geniuses, okay, from Western Europe or you know, maybe Japan. I would take some of those. Okay. But here's the thing. Net zero immigration moratorium would be a huge boon to the country. It would give time for us to get our house in order again, to get culturally assimilated again, to digest this huge meal that we have been forced to take over the last forty or fifty years. Now, we had two Supreme Court decisions that kind of address some of these issues. We were wondering in part one of the show here earlier on whether you think this is a good omen for birthright citizenship or a bad omen. Do you feel like the Roberts Court is basically saying, Hey, we're gonna see you look at We're giving you some wins on immigration, basically to pull the rug out from under you on birthright. What do you think is gonna happen? 00:33:13 Speaker 5: John, I'm not expecting a favorable outcome on birthplace citizenship. I wish it weren't so to me right now. A miraculous victory would look something like the Supreme Court saying that Congress has to define what's subject to the jurisdiction of means under the fourteenth Amendment, which would mean that they would punt to Congress the authority to say, whether you know aliens who just happened to be born here because their parents here we're here for five seconds or citizens. That would be a legislative, political decision. I would view that as a massive victory given what we're dealing with on that court. But I don't expect that. I'm expecting a seven to maybe a six' to three decision that, says if you're A china's communists who comes over here pregnant for the sole purpose of dropping a, baby so it Becomes american and can maybe one debut. President, obviously that's what we fought The Civil war. FOR i expect that to be The John roberts. DECISION i expect to see From John roberts a decision that Says america fought The Civil war So chinese communist birth tourists could come in and drop babies that are magically citizens and can run for president one. 00:34:24 Speaker 3: Day i'm very worried that is the ruling we're going to. Get BUT i was talking To andrew before the. SHOW i would consider even that as. Crazy it sounds an improvement over what the status quo, was because we've had for a century it just treated as the unquestioned default. 00:34:40 Speaker 4: Of law that we have total birthright. 00:34:43 Speaker 3: Citizenship we didn't even have a ruling explicitly saying it Once, well first of, all we've had an administration try. 00:34:49 Speaker 4: It we needed to have that. 00:34:50 Speaker 3: Happen and now even if the ruling is against, us we now have a litmus. Test just like for decades we were picking judges and we could basically, say we'll can this be a judge who would help us Overturn Roby, wade which we eventually. Did now we can, say are these judges that we're putting on, courts district, courts appeals, courts eventually The Supreme, court are they someone who will help us overturn the birthright citizenship. Travesty we need to take that step to get. There even if we don't get there all at, once now we will be getting closer to an outcome that we need to have. 00:35:22 Speaker 2: HAPPEN i just you're probably. Right everybody that seems to know and follows the court, closely WHICH i know you And molly, do at The federalists seems to be leaning this, way AND i just, cannot for the life of, me understand how that they could rule that. WAY i cannot look at the. FACTS i cannot look at the debate on The senate floor when they were drafting these the fourteenth and Fifteenth. AMENDMENTS i cannot look at it and understand the rational at. All AND i think that's why it's so. INFURIATING i, mean when they rule on, that it will BE i worry for the. COUNTRY i worry that a lot of people aren't going to take that very well because it's so. Insane Sean davis from The, federalists my, friend good to see. You i'm glad to have you. Back you were, traveling so it's nice to have you back. Stateside my. Friend thank, you my. 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Christians you are great, entrepreneurs and you have a love of this country and you have a love Of america's ranchers and. Farmers and we are so. Honored AND i mean that because you. KNOW i mean, that because we've, talked you know offline that you are standing with our, show that you partner with, us and we want to stand with, you and we want to stand With america's. Ranchers so why don't you just tell just briefly how you started this, company BECAUSE i think it's a really cool. Story. 00:38:40 Speaker 4: Yeah so about a decade. 00:38:43 Speaker 10: Ago in the fifteen years leading up to, THAT i was a full TIME i was in full time ministry from the TIME i was nineteen to my mid. THIRTIES i was a worship pastor and grew up playing piano and guitar and grew up in a family full of. 00:38:57 Speaker 2: Pastors and. 00:39:00 Speaker 10: Very musical, family and SO i just kind of went that route and felt called to, ministry and somewhere around in my early, Thirties god just put on my heart to not take a salary from the. Church and by that TIME i was working at a really large church In, texas like twenty thousand member, church running the whole music. Department everyone of those here In texas man and SO i absolutely loved WHAT i. Did But god put on my heart to not take a salary from the, church and SO i started praying and, Thinking, okay, well what does that look? 00:39:35 Speaker 4: Like what else COULD i? 00:39:36 Speaker 10: Do and THEN i started having ideas of a meat, company which made absolutely no sense because it's so. 00:39:42 Speaker 2: Field it was very out of left. 00:39:44 Speaker 10: Field but it was, recurring and he just kept coming, back AND i kept telling my, wife someone should do something about. This didn't think that someone was going to be. Us but for the sake of time of the, story fast forward about a year from that first conversation of someone should do, THIS i was getting ready for the CHURCH i was working at and it was A sunday. Morning we had just had our first baby, boy he was about six weeks, old AND i started thinking about it again AND i heard the voice of The lord and he said you do. It and it was like a you, Know Saul Damascus road type moment for. Me AND i came out of the bathroom AND i went to my, Wife, courlely AND i, SAID i Think god just told me to start a meat, company even though he said you do. It but you, KNOW i just paraphrase as we, do thinking she was going to look at me and, say we just had a, baby we don't have any, money we don't know anything about, meat we don't know anything about running a. Business but she looked back at me and, said if you Heard, god THEN i trust. You and a few weeks, LATER i was selling meat out of the back of a truck in a parking lot In, Waco, texas and we. 00:40:50 Speaker 2: Well that's how you, started, Right you were doing about all these pop up, yeah you, know meat shops, basically which is a wild way to, start and then you turn it into this huge business where you get these beautiful boxes of meat delivered straight to your. Door and the team makes fun of, me But i'm always talking about the chicken nuggets because it loves the. Nuggs, well when you got little, kids you love chicken nuggets because it's like some nights you just need to get them fed and get them some and they have no seed, oil no, antibiotics gluten. Free chick Fil a doesn't even have no. Antibiotics and there's a lot when you talk about the oil there. Either, yeah, no, no. 00:41:27 Speaker 10: No we're really proud of the of the quality that we're able to source and. Provide and you, know, AGAIN i don't have AN. Mba neither does my. Wife we weren't planning on being business, owners but we made the. Decision it was two. Things so we started in twenty, eighteen LIKE i, said selling meat in parking. Lots but we learned in twenty nineteen that there was no country of origin labeling law for beef or for pork in THE, us and that most of what the consumer is, buying most of what's being sold in the grocery stores and being sold in THE, us is actually coming From, Mexico South, amyera other countries and with no transparency of. Labeling and when we learned, that we drew a hard line in the sand and said we're only going to Support american farms and. Ranches we're only going to source domestically from THE, us and so we made that. Shift we made that shift in twenty nineteen moved into twenty TWENTY covid. Happened we were still you, know by that, time we had like twenty trucks going around the country doing those pop up, shops and then we made the decision to get online POST covid and got online in twenty twenty one going into twenty twenty, two and it's just it's been it's been amazing to see when we've been the fastest growing meat company the past five years in THE, us and people ask us all the, time, like how did you do? 00:42:49 Speaker 4: It how did you do? 00:42:50 Speaker 10: It and, honestly the real ANSWER i give is it really hasn't been. Us this Was god's. Plan we're just the vessel that he's. Using but it's been an amazing thing to see the amount of jobs that we've been able to create across the country For, americans and the amount of farms and ranches that were able to support through what we. 00:43:15 Speaker 2: DO a good. Rancher, yeah that's kind of WAY i look at. It not only do you provide a great, PRODUCT i mean when you get these, boxes JUST i just want to, say they're. Beautiful the branding is, beautiful it's packaged so, well the meat comes like fresh and it's frozen and it's like. Not so it's a great. Product and by the, way the product has become exceptional like you. Have you have improved the product over the years so so much BECAUSE i remember when you first started, out there was you, know you were learning the business. Right it's. Incredible but what the real beauty of this is not only Great christian, family patriotic family and we just love to spell, family but it's you're an advocate now For america's. Ranchers, yeah you. Are you are their, voice you know in a big. Way you are making sure that they have a place to sell their. Product. 00:44:02 Speaker 10: Sure, yeah and again things THAT i would have never THOUGHT i would see my, life in my life doing ten years. Ago but just last WEEK i spoke At National cattleman conventions In South dakota And Rapid, City South, dakota And i'm, like but it, was it. 00:44:19 Speaker 2: Was it was amazing that. 00:44:20 Speaker 10: There was hundreds of local independent farmers and ranchers and and you, know good ranchers exist to connect The american family to The american. Farm and right now we're being just flooded with imported, beef flooded with imported. 00:44:37 Speaker 2: Meat and. 00:44:39 Speaker 1: We elaborate on. 00:44:40 Speaker 4: That what's driving, That. 00:44:42 Speaker 10: Well there's no country of origin labeling laws prior to twenty. 00:44:45 Speaker 2: Fifteen there. 00:44:46 Speaker 10: Was in twenty fifteen we just quietly, Removed like the shirt you wear says what country it came. From the plates you eat, on, say you, know made in Probably. 00:44:57 Speaker 4: Taiwan, yeah but. 00:45:00 Speaker 10: The, fruits, vegetables all of that stuff has to has to say where it came. From but the beef in the pork that you buy in the grocery store does not have to say where it's coming. From that's just that's the way that there's no country of. 00:45:12 Speaker 3: Origin LIKE i guess they probably just say. That maybe they only have to say where they packaged, it or do they even. 00:45:16 Speaker 10: Have to say, that, yeah just, yeah it just where at WHATEVER usda plant it gets packaged, in it gets, it so it gets a US da. 00:45:25 Speaker 2: Seal and most people. 00:45:27 Speaker 10: Just this must be this must be, local this must be coming from, here center or. 00:45:32 Speaker 3: Whatever and they just, said we'll bring the beef TO i, know we have everyone In Sioux, FALLS i. 00:45:37 Speaker 10: Know so, yeah everyone is importing, beef packaging it and selling it to, consumers except for good ranchers and. 00:45:44 Speaker 2: We're going to take that up with US DA. Sec brooke, rawlins because that's. Obscene good conversation is about. Respect it's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and be. Heard CHARLIE u that turning point still knows, that And TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful, connection where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each. Other when ideas meet, respect good things. Happen On. TikTok you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to, name or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his. Viewers viewers who listen, discuss and then they. Respond TikTok turns connection into community through small acts of. Understanding you can feel it in the comments and the thank you from a stranger halfway across the. World TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for, discussion and discussion helps us build something. Real Good ranchers dot Com American Meat. 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Price, Again so what do you make of that whole? 00:47:55 Speaker 10: Thing, YEAH i mean, again this has been years and years in the making of not Prioritizing american farms And american, ranches AND i mean they really have Been they've really taken a back seat the last the last, decade the last ten. Years and and the problem is when you continue to squeeze and continue to, squeeze they get to the point where they just can't. Operate farming is not a life of. LUXURY i mean they do it because they love. It they're passionate about. IT i, Mean i've spent so much time with with with these families THAT i mean they almost every time start tearing up because they're so passionate about these animals that they raise and this this land that they're. 00:48:41 Speaker 2: Protecting that they. 00:48:42 Speaker 10: Have, yeah and it's JUST i, mean the cost of fuel us, up the cost of feed is, up the cost of everything is. Up and with the LIKE i, said almost four billion pounds of beef being imported with no. Transparency if The american consumer went to the grocery store and saw a rabbi that said, born raised and harvested in THE usa and one that said born and raised In, mexico process IN. Usa they would pick, That, yes they would pick The american one every. 00:49:12 Speaker 2: Time at least a lot of us would a lot of us you, Know. 00:49:16 Speaker 10: No the statistics say it's like ninety. Yeah LIKE i was at The North American Meat conference just a few few months ago and that was the. Statistic american sourced is the number one thing that consumers are looking for before, organic before. Everything, Wow american sourcing is the number one thing they're looking. For and the problem is we don't have that transparency the way our law sit. 00:49:38 Speaker 2: Today this should be changed like, tomorrow it really. 00:49:41 Speaker 10: Should we took are we took a little bit of a step in the right. Direction you might have heard of the administration THROUGH rfk and they brought back to product OF usa label In january of this, year and it's a step in the right, direction but it's not even close to what fully needs to be. Done because what they've done is now there's a voluntary country of origin, labeling so you can say it if you want, to but you don't have. To so that's which it doesn't fix. It, no it doesn't fix it at. 00:50:18 Speaker 2: All, well and so you're saying that the average said you said this in the break that the average age of a rancher In america now is sixty two years. Old so not only, that but a lot of them are being forced to sell their. Land so part of the reason the price of beef shot up was not only byen. Inflation the cost of everything got way more, expensive not preti feed, medication. 00:50:40 Speaker 10: Not prioritizing and protecting our own farmers and ranchers. 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Yep and so from this glut of form, beef and so they're selling the. Land so the the supply Of american beef has dropped dramatically in the last. 00:50:51 Speaker 10: Decade we're at a we're at a historical low in beef in the herd sizes today and it takes about two years to. 00:51:00 Speaker 4: Rebuild so what? Shrength so if the herd sizes themselves are, shrinking what's driving? 00:51:05 Speaker 10: THAT i, Know, well demand is. Up demand is high because people which that's a great. 00:51:10 Speaker 3: Thing because they're putting the herd because prices are. 00:51:14 Speaker 10: High, now, yeah well it goes to their they're aging out and they're GOING i CAN i can just. SELL i can sell off everything right, now AND i might as well make hay while the sun is, shining because they don't see. 00:51:29 Speaker 4: Much they don't see much light at the end of the. 00:51:32 Speaker 10: Tunnel but the problem is if when producers get to the point where they're leaving the, industry we're gonna look up and we're not Gonna we're not gonna be able to raise enough food to feed our. Nation and you can look through the history of time anytime another country is dependent on a different. 00:51:53 Speaker 2: Nation we saw that In. 00:51:54 Speaker 10: Covid, yeah to feed, them you wind up. Enslaved that's exactly that's what happened To. 00:52:01 Speaker 2: Israel but it's it's you, know it's it's it's also there's geopolitical, reasons there's pride of our own country, reasons but it's also the, quality like the quality of, people the backbone of this, nation the spirit of its. People how do we continue on another two hundred and fifty years if we don't have a robust ranching and farming. Community the bedrock of so many small communities across the country are ranchers and. Farmers they need to be. Protected the quality of our character as a people will be dramatically decreased if we do not have a huge agricultural community in this. 00:52:37 Speaker 10: Yeaht and and the the current administration is is working to help with. THAT i, mean just a few months ago they had the largest gathering of farmers and ranchers at The White house in the history of THE. 00:52:51 Speaker 2: Us, Yeah Brook brook. RAWLINS i just want to, say she is passionately Defending america's ranchers and. FARMERS i don't know why this rule hasn't been. Changed she's probably aware of. 00:53:01 Speaker 10: It but, yeah but we need more consumers to be. Aware you have to vote with your. Dollars you have to, shop you have to Buy. American, yeah and you can't be confused by the. Labels and now more than, ever we need to stand with our, farmers stand with our, ranchers and support our Own. 00:53:19 Speaker 4: This is a bit out of left. 00:53:20 Speaker 3: Field how big a concern is this screw worm outbreak that's happening In texas to ranch or spread about that a? 00:53:26 Speaker 10: Lot? 00:53:27 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 00:53:28 Speaker 10: Yeah, Absolutely and and that is that isn't we we eradicate it the screw worm fifty years ago in THE, Us but with all of the import that we're that we've is it. 00:53:40 Speaker 2: The importing product or is it the mass migration at the southern border that product it? 00:53:44 Speaker 3: Was it was they had it blocked Below panama is WHAT i remember it, was and then right burying. Gap but everyone came over the dairy and, gap and now the fly is across the dairy and gap. 00:53:52 Speaker 10: Too, yeah because again because we've we've were importing so much beef crossing Across mexico because another way the law. Reads, again there's so much there's just so much convolution in all of. It but even with the product OF, usa the way that it was is beef can be raised and raised In mexico and then they can just cross them over the line into THE us and then get product OF usa on. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: Them that's so. Frustrating if you want to Support america's, ranchers there's a great way to do. It it's good ranchers Dot com Support ben And coraley is they support Our american ranchers and. Farmers you guys are advocates for. Them And i'm Just i'm so honored again because you're Good, christians you're Good, americans you love this, country you love our ranchers and. Farmers we have your back one thousand. Percent so go right. Now, please if you're watching or Listening Good ranchers Dot com use promo Code freedom for seventeen seventy six percent. Off, yeah which is very. Good it's Very. Charlie but, yeah fourth Of july next, WEEK i. Know so get some, meat go. 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Now you'll Remember Matt walsh famously said what is a? Woman and that was that hit the zeitgeist at just the right, time and we need to now talk about a different. Question what is An? American what is An? American, so Doctor, spalding welcome back to the. Show it's good to see. You that's good do with you. Again how are? You we're, GREAT i, mean besides the fact that the comedies are taken Over america's formerly greatest. City so the question is what is An? American what makes An? American and everybody seems to have a different opinion on, this and it's not just. Paperwork i'm, SORRY i don't buy into this idea that you are a Paperwork. American that's what we have too much. Of we have birth Tourist, americans we have we have naturalized citizens that hate. Us so what is An? American what did our founders? 00:58:12 Speaker 9: BELIEVE i think part of it is we've got a great opportunity here to recover this. Meaning i've done a book in The declaration Of. Independence we just The senate has now passed a resolution that's not going to The house to reer from The declaration Of. Independence we're going to be on our two other thiet anniversary here coming up very. Quickly, here here's an. Idea that document by which we first declared our independence From Great britain announced us as a, people and as a people we have certain, things we argue that are self, evident that are known to be, true and that's a basis upon which this regime is. Created, well that has an implication for, INDEED i would, argue actually define the baseline of what An american. Is the precursor questions of. People why are we a, People, well we're clearly people because we share a, history we share a, place we share common, experiences we share ancestors over time in most. Cases but there's this other additive that makes us the, people which is a dedication to these. Principles that's What america Makes america unique and exceptional and. Different which tells me that anybody in, theory in, principle could be An. American this Was Ronald reagan's old. Line you can't Become, french but anyone could be An. American but it also tells me another. Thing immigrants who come here must do so based on consent that is inconsistent with our first. Principles so there is an initial sense of what An american. IS i think today we've been so shaped by kind of a subjective personal view of everything that we think that citizenship is, well whatever you want it to. Be that's not the. Case we're a, regime a regime dedicated to these universal, ideas which are, beautiful but it's a particular regime based on the rule of, law and those are laws to which we consent based on those universal. Principles so An american is someone who instinctively loves their, country who grows up and comes to know it and knows it in certain fundamentals and basic, characteristics but more and so as a free, government as a self governing. PEOPLE a citizen is someone who comes to reflect about the importance of those. Things what are the rights that are? Protected where do they come? From why are they? Important why should respect rights of other? People the rule of? Law why is that? Important that those are the components that really matter and that we, learned we come to reflect about and learn them and form us more so than merely just a piece of, paper merely where you happen to be. Born that make us into citizens as opposed to say to. Subjects, yeah that's, crucial it seems to. 01:01:06 Speaker 2: ME i totally. AGREE i was looking At John, jay, so our First Chief justice of THE, usa because this question IS i hear what you're, Saying Doctor. SPALDING i, do AND i agree with all of. It just to be, clear but this question gets really tricky when we start talking about the heritage of Certain. Americans. Right so this is SOMETHING i saw From John, jay First Chief justice of THE. Usa he, Says providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to One United, people a people descended from the same, ancestors speaking the same, language professing the same, religion attached to the same principles of, government very similar in their manners and. Customs this country and this people seem to have been made for each. OTHER i can't say that, now because we don't come from the same, ancestors we don't speak the same, language we don't profess the same. Religion these are the tricky parts of this. 01:02:04 Speaker 9: Question, yes, no, absolutely that's from federalists, Too John, jay and federalists. Too it's a great it's a great, essay AND i think that there are some very complicated aspects of religion being one of. Them ancestors being another long. Experience because of so, much so many of our so much of our population growing, amount have become here so quickly and, fast they've not had time to. Assimilate those are deep, problems don't get me, wrong deeply concerned about, them and especially if they're coming from cultures that are anathema or are very unfriendly to republican, government the rule of law is very. Dangerous having said, that the question still is how do you make People? Americans and this is a question not only for, immigrants but for our own children and those that are that are raised here to become active, citizens and we we have to figure out ways to encourage. Formation we have to figure out, ways which is why protecting religious liberty is. Important so we have a flourishing of substantive religion and. Churches we have to be mindful of those things which are taking root here that are in violation of our. PRINCIPLES i mean religions or cultures that demand their own. Laws things like that are our. Problems but, again why are all those things brought? Together what is the secret sauce if you, Will and that really is the argument found in The, declaration which, is we are not a people based on our. Ethnicity we're not a people based on our. Race we are not a people based on the fact that we can or cannot trace our lineage back to The mayflower or To george The. Third there's something different About, america which means those questions you just raised are. Harder, Granted tolpfel recognized this in democracy In, america but there's something about the liberty that is created by The declaration uh that comes forward in The. Constitution there's something about the joining of local groups and the diversity In america that actually creates a certain type of, citizen an entrepreneurial, citizen a citizen that wants to create things and build. Things so that bulwark if we if we can protect that and keep that and then allow for they can continue to proct protect religious liberty and all the other institutions who create the kinds of things you're referring. To that strikes me as a good recipe for rebuilding uh. CITIZENSHIP i think we can't just lament the fact that things have, changed even though they have AND i do lament, them we can't throw in the towel based on. That the question is how do we rebuild? It AND i think there we actually know the. Ingredients the founders lay them out for us throughout our. History those ingredients were per. Clear, well and it's late we've been. 01:05:03 Speaker 2: Going in a different. 01:05:04 Speaker 9: Direction. 01:05:04 Speaker 2: Yeah so you, know it's interesting Because Elon musk tweeted yesterday and he, said anyone who Hates america must be removed From. America what would our founders have? Done what kind of because because it strikes me is we've got people now that are going to be coming To congress that are advocating for the eradication Of western. Civilization, RIGHT i don't want them in my. Country If i'm just being very, Blunt what would The founders have thought about somebody like. 01:05:29 Speaker 9: That, WELL i can tell you one thing The founders were very clear on is that any someone who's coming To, america and they discussed this and their concerns about, immigration if they're coming from a, place another, country another form of government and advocating a different form of, government say socialism or, communism that rules them, out as as For american. Citizenship so there are lines here that if they're being crossed or deep fundamental. Problems of, course the additional problem there is we're teaching more of that in our schools. Directly but there are lines that can't be crossed, here and we seem to be crossing. 01:06:08 Speaker 2: Them and that's very. 01:06:09 Speaker 3: Problematic AND i want to like because we mentioned the j, Tweet but there's other quotes from The. Founders they're all very uniform on. Us Alexander hamilton himself not born In. AMERICA i believe he was born In, yeah he was born in The. Caribbean and he says the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national, sentiment on a uniformity of principles and, habits on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and, prejudice on that love of country invariably found in those closely connected with, birth, education and. Family we need to have people aligned. Together and part of, THIS i think it's not even just that they have to like our form of. GOVERNMENT i think it's almost he's, saying we have a limit on how quickly we can bring people into this. 01:06:51 Speaker 4: Country we've talked about the need for maybe a pause just to digest all the people who've come. 01:06:57 Speaker 9: HERE i think those are all legitimate, possibilities a, pause given that we're being overwhelmed by. It but what it points to, you and that's a great, quote is there's an underlying thing that has to be. Done someone can't merely come, here pass a test and be An. American you have to become An. American you have to be made into a. Citizen same for kids IN R k through twelve. Schools it takes, time which means the policies in the system have to have allow for time and encourage that to come into. Being, this for, instance is WHY i think language a common language is an element of, citizens but is extremely. Important if we ignore all those, things we're essentially writing our own death. Certificate we will destroy ourselves as a. 01:07:38 Speaker 2: PEOPLE i just want to, tell because we're talking About america too fit to what is An? American we have special merch just for you guys that our team put. Together i'm so proud of. Them look at That charliekirkstore dot, Com charliekirkstore dot, com or you can just go To charliekirk dot com and we'll have the link there as well and you can get to. It but it's special Addition america two fifty. Merch and if you watch dot, yes that Is russ right there in the shirt looking good modeling for. Us what a. Stud people Love. Russ he's. Great he gets a lot of good. Feedback the audience is Pro. Russ they should, Be, yeah they should they not. Be look it's the. Beard it's the, BEARD i, think and the. Tattoos so, Again charliekirkstore dot, Com charliekirkstore dot. Com get Your america two fifty merch. Today please do. It So, okay here's my suggestion if you're going to advocate for the eradication Of western. Civilization you do not deserve to be. Here, sayonara, denaturalize get them out of the. Country there's apparently a law in nineteen fifty four that would support. This it would be a national, SCANDAL i get. It it would BE cnn would be. APOPLECTIC ms now would be losing their. Mind democrats would be freaking out all over, place probably have some sort of. Rioting, OKAY i don't. Care we got to draw a line in the. Sand we can't even get The Save America act passed when we have fifty three votes in The, senate which would incur which would Ensure american citizens are the ones. VOTING i think they should do. IT i think they should challenge every, rule custom Norm just draw the line in the. Sand say no more of this foreign, tribalism, sectarianism these foreign. Ideologies this Is, america. Baby if you don't love, it get the heck. Out that's my. Suggestion what do you, think. 01:09:20 Speaker 9: Doctor Baldon well are As Merle haggard famously said to one of his, songs if you don't love, it leave. 01:09:25 Speaker 2: It that's, right exactly right At Merle, Haggard Great, American. 01:09:29 Speaker 9: But here here's the so that de NATURALIZATION i think is legitimate. Option we've tried to push this. BEFORE i remember in years, past this comes. Up it is a legitimate. Option WHAT i would suggest is that we find a clear, case for, instance someone who has Gotten american citizenship and actually now is violently trying to overthrow the. Government there are those, cases they can be. Found you got to find a test. Case you got to win on something that could clearly. Win do that, first. 01:10:02 Speaker 2: Any test cases come to, MIND i mean some of these are So for, example there's The aberkas or whatever that is saying that we deserve nine to. Eleven she is the daughter of illegal. Immigrants illegal they were, father her father was. 01:10:18 Speaker 3: Deported she blamed the cruelty of our immigration, system and he actually apparently committed. 01:10:23 Speaker 2: Fraud wait here's here's here's WHY i. 01:10:25 Speaker 9: Went from a legal point of, VIEW i would find a case that's not about what someone, said something that they can be argued about and they can, oh that's. It didn't really mean. THAT i would find a case which there are out there where someone, is say collecting, weapons where someone was trying to coordinate the, bombing say of the president at the recent. Fight were those guys? IMMIGRANTS i think there. 01:10:47 Speaker 2: Was the ring leader was. Illegal, YEAH i think it was a. 01:10:50 Speaker 9: Dream find a case where it's impossible to take a another position and say this is open to. Interpretation SO i would go to something very wrong concerning. That but you, know here's WHERE i thought you were going when you when you said to me to get. Ready there is a D. C why our campus here That i'm head of is In, washington D. C The democratic primary was just won by a, Socialist so next the next mayor of the national capital is going to be a. Socialist that strikes me as opening some new and interesting opportunities. Here The Dictric's columbi is not a. State it is completely under the subject of the power of The. Congress but also the executive of the country has lots of authority and could actually exert national leadership and take over the city to print that from. Happening, uh trust about what's going on In New. York The constitution In article section Four article. Four section four Of article four is something called The rebel Public Republican guarantee. Clause The constitution says that every state will have a republican form of government if they so lift their finger to try to change the form or advocate change in the. FORM i think that triggers some new, authorities which creates some very interesting. OPTIONS i think we need to do some of these. Things we need to be very aggressive about. It BUT i will advocate and seriously underscore we need to do it in a way that will create some wins and pick our cases and pick, fights because there's nothing worse that picking a fight and you just completely lose, it and things are actually worse because they'll they'll respond on free, speech they'll respond on perhaps even religious. Protections we've got to make this, clear and where there is a clear, threat a clear and present, danger and an actual case of potential, terrorism that changes. Matters the president can protect the. Nations nations capital as a matter of national, security cannot be run by a. Socialist that's a different question than, say, oh they just advocated bad ideas which we. 01:13:10 Speaker 2: Think are at. 01:13:10 Speaker 9: Anathema SO i just you, know, YES i, agree but be careful at how we do, it because these are various dangerous grounds and we've got to go forward in a way that will win these. 01:13:19 Speaker 2: Cases, yeah, NOTED i think the caution is well, placed but we. HAVE i think we have to do something THAT i. 01:13:27 Speaker 9: Agree, with THAT i agree that we should Be i'm hoping that the right people are thinking these things through and putting these. 01:13:33 Speaker 2: Options, yeah it's time to pick a. FIGHT i JUST i, mean you, Know i'm reminded Of Brave, heart where you, Know i've come to pick a. Fight, yeah that's what we're gonna, do because, like, yeah we, crossed go, ahead we've. 01:13:45 Speaker 9: Crossed, no we've crossed a. Threshold this is not this is no longer the kind of progressive, liberalism you, know arguing about whether they have values in this kind of. Thing we've crossed a threshold. Here there are now people being elected who actively advocate opposing the, government overthrowing our system of. Government uh and and other radical steps THAT i think are different From this is not just the you, know the old. Liberalism this is not even merely. Postmodernism these are not a bunch of nihilists who are believe radical. Revolutionaries these are people who believe, something are, dedicated willing to die for. It if that's, That we've got to draw those lines and make those lines very, clear because as soon as this opens the, Door, california other states are going to go this, way and pretty soon we got we've got a much more of a. Problem and if you to a point where you're Like france Or, England, uh it's pretty hard to save that. 01:14:41 Speaker 2: Country, well and so, listen in no particular, order we need stop this legal migration. Invasion we need to stop importing cultures that hate. Us we need, remigration we need mass. Deportations we need to redouble our efforts on all these fronts because these, uh and by the, WAY i am completely behind which Are arlie said that on the Macro islam is incompatible with The United states and our form of. Government they like sharia, lah they like. Conquering it's a conquering political. Ideology. Right this cannot continue. On we have to draw a line in the sand and make, bold controversial decisions to save the future of this. Country if we're going to get to two hundred and fifty, more we've got to start living up to the founder's ideals in these. Ways Doctor, spaulding amazing to have, you AND i love what you, said AND i take it to. Heart we've got to pick our battles, wisely but we must pick a few of, them pick. 01:15:35 Speaker 9: Them but also we need to celebrate this country AND i encourage everyone out there to have a great fourth and falling up with our country. Again this is a great, country best country in the. 01:15:44 Speaker 1: World. 01:15:44 Speaker 2: Amen, amen our glass is certainly half. FULL i would agree with you. 01:15:47 Speaker 5: There for more on many of these stories and news you can, trust go To Charlie kirk dot. 01:15:56 Speaker 2: Com