Debunking the Exploding Mic + Left-Wing Murder in UK

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Can you just tell our audience what this was even about. 00:01:54 Speaker 5: First of all, yeah, thanks for having me. 00:01:56 Speaker 6: And this is this was about the Smithsonian as an American institution that has been so deeply and thoroughly ideologically captured by the left. For the past several years, the Smithsonian has been pushing left wing exhibits, left wing ideologies. They've infused their entire their entire museum really with a form of sort of cultural Marxism that looks at history through the lens of migration and through sexuality and through things that have nothing really seriously or directly to do with history, and that's been a problem and you can see that practically and exhibits that they put up where they'll show pictures of a man wearing bondage gear, you know, showing off all kinds of sexual fetishes, where they will promote, you know, that the transgender Guatemalan activist, illegal alien who's trying to sway American elections, but then downplay are founding fathers. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that has gotten into this this museum. And our goal in Congress is to oversee this institution and ensure that American tax dollars, especially dollars that are funding this or being well spent, and that this institution is actually promoting American interests. 00:03:11 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's a great premise and a great setup, and I completely agree with your starting point that this is a captured institution. So any changes to bring balance to it, they act like President Trump and the Trump administration, and you guys in Congress are a bunch of fascists for trying to actually present something that isn't you know, completely demoralized about the history of America. And that was the tell for me when I saw these clips coming through yesterday. And I have to say, and I want to compliment you on something because it's a very difficult needle to threat as a congressman. You are a clip machine. The team is telling me that, like all over social media, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok x, your clips go viral all the time. But I don't perceive any bit of you that's necessarily trying to do that. You don't get excited, you're not being brash, you're not being loud, You're not doing what Jasmine Crockett does and like taking on some Southern accent. You're just being direct with the facts. And I love these clips, so I'm going to play a couple for them and have you react on the other side. 00:04:15 Speaker 6: It's not too Would you say that the goal of history is to be objective? 00:04:19 Speaker 7: You know, I think that there are many goals of history, and certainly as you collect, as we do examine evidence. 00:04:27 Speaker 8: Creates objectivity one of the goals of history. 00:04:30 Speaker 7: We strive to be objective and nonpartisan. 00:04:33 Speaker 6: That seem a little bit concerning. It certainly does to me, because as part of this white supremacy document that your organization has promoted objectivity is a core in defining aspect of white supremacy culture. Do you think that it's the goal of the Smithsonian Institution to promote white supremacy culture? Are you promoting a white supremacy culture at the Smithsonian? 00:05:02 Speaker 8: My primorium, ma'am, this is this a difficult question. 00:05:09 Speaker 5: I love this. 00:05:10 Speaker 9: I'm not normally a big fan of congressional hearings, but you really make them something, Congressman Gill, So, I remember, I recall what a lot of what this hearing is sort of referring to that white supremacy culture document that the Smithsonian had on their website where they say, showing up on time, working hard, all these things are white supremacy. So we're almost two years into the second Trump administration here, so is are we am I correct and understanding? This stuff is still all over the place? 00:05:39 Speaker 5: There? 00:05:40 Speaker 9: Can you lay out for our listeners what is going on at the Smithsonian today? 00:05:44 Speaker 5: Is this stuff's just still embedded? 00:05:46 Speaker 6: Yes, yes it is. And that's the problem. It's that the people who are running the institution, like Director Hardager, are still there and are still calling many of the shots. The original white supremacy document that the Smithsonian Institution had, they then rescinded at one point and replaced it with another document that said basically the exact same thing. Objectively offensive things like objectivity is evidence of white supremacy, culture, politeness, things like that that I think most Americans would find just beyond absurd. And the point of the questioning there was to kind of highlight that. I mean, for so long the left got away with labeling anybody as racist or as a white supremacist based on any possible assumptions they could make, or any possible groundwork. So saying somebody is polite, for instance, under a left wing worldview, was evidence that they're a white supremacist. So you just ask these leftists, just very directly, whether that is what they believe. And I think it really exposes and highlights how insane this is. And you know, to a certain degree, I don't think they even believe some of this. 00:07:00 Speaker 4: When the Front you called them on it, You said, is it nice to be polite? 00:07:04 Speaker 3: Is it important? 00:07:05 Speaker 4: She goes yes, Well, then why is that? So are you a white supremacist? 00:07:10 Speaker 3: Like? 00:07:11 Speaker 4: The list is obscene, and I remember covering this and to Blake's point, I thought we were done with this. The fact that I'm hearing now from you that it's still embedded in these institutions shows that how successful their long march has been. We win a landslide victory electorally in uh November twenty twenty four, and this stuff is still embedded. It's so difficult to get this stuff out. 00:07:32 Speaker 10: Is this the usual? 00:07:33 Speaker 9: Is this another case where technically the Smithsonian is independent and nonpartisan, and so it's been one hundred percent politicized and it's very difficult to undo. Is there something we can do to fix this besides humiliating these people in Congress? 00:07:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Smithsonian, it's it's governed by what is supposed to be kind of a nonpartisan board. There are a few members of Congress on it, some of whom have been very helpful with us in this and putting together these materials. But Congress does have the power of the person. We do give them money every year, so we've got leverage over them there. And there are other ways that we can exert influence on the on the institution itself, and I think that that begins with exposing some of this rot. I think that obviously Director Heartache should be fired. But this does show that, you know, we like to talk about woke is dead, and that sounds good, but really woke is just kind of dormant right now. This is an ideology that the Left is so married to, and you see that in DEI and we've got a DEI hearing in about two hours. But you see, the Left is so married DEI and other forms of wokeness that they're not just going to give it up because the law tells them to or because it's unpopular. This is something that we're going to have to keep fighting on. 00:08:49 Speaker 9: That's so important, Congressman, that it's just dormant. And it's especially in these places like the Smithsonian, because these people get into these positions, they're like barnacles and most people aren't thinking about who runs the Smithsonian, but they can just sort of go quiet, wait for the administration to turn over, and then outcome the pride flags again if they win in twenty eighth. 00:09:10 Speaker 4: Of course, and people need to understand the Smithsonian is basically you need to think of it as an appendage of the Academy. These are all academics that run these things, and so if you ever do anything to offend their sensibilities. I could see if you actually made real changes at the Smithsonian, they will all boycott instantly and say the Smithsonian's been ruined. It's too pro America. It celebrates our history too much. It doesn't talk about, you know how Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. Nearly enough. 00:09:39 Speaker 3: It's so obscene. 00:09:40 Speaker 4: I gotta get to some more of these clips because and then I do want to hear about this. DII Okay, this one. Okay, this is a longer clip, so I apologize it's fifty seconds, but it's about Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse a beloved American icon. We can't even enjoy Mickey Mouse anymore sought for. 00:10:02 Speaker 8: Is Mickey Mouse racist? Mickey Mouse is not racist. It's not racist. 00:10:06 Speaker 6: According to the Smithsonian Institution, one of your exhibits referenced to Mickey Mouse is representing quote vestiges of long standing traditions of blackface minstrelsy. 00:10:19 Speaker 8: Would you describe that as racist? 00:10:21 Speaker 7: No, the historical trajectory of the origins of Mickey Mouse tied directly. 00:10:29 Speaker 8: Mickey Mouse is rooted in racism. Is that your testimony? Or it's rooted in menstrully minstrel seeing you don't think the blackface minstreul Sy is. 00:10:37 Speaker 7: Racist, and it's certain on obvious racial overtones that have been well documented. 00:10:42 Speaker 6: I think that that's problematic that Mickey Mouse also has those racial overtones. 00:10:47 Speaker 7: It's not for me to determine what's problematic. It's determined to me what's accurate. 00:10:52 Speaker 8: Is that right? 00:10:56 Speaker 4: Sorry, I hope to have our mics muted because we're just sitting here laughing the whole So. So, he's a giant racist cartoon, but it's not for. 00:11:04 Speaker 3: Me to say he's race. He's just racist. 00:11:07 Speaker 4: And you you pressed her each time she tried to qualify it and sort of lose you in the language. You just kept pressing it. It was brilliant. And I think that's why these clips are so powerful is because you're you're exposing the absurdity of the academics, the academy, and the way that they do this, the way that they undermine it with their little word games. You're actually watching yourself backs. 00:11:30 Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's it's amazing she'll go down the road of you know, we don't you know, I'm not going to make any kind of normative judgment about Mickey Mouse being racist or not whenever the entire Smithsonian Institution makes moral judgments about our country and about all, you know, all the perceived sins of the white man and the people who have run this country. I mean, that is that is the Smithsonian Institution today. 00:11:55 Speaker 3: But you know it's it's again. 00:11:57 Speaker 6: It's another example of just how ridiculous the stuff is. I don't even know what it means to say that Mickey Mouse is rooted in blackface minstrelsy. 00:12:07 Speaker 8: I don't you know. 00:12:08 Speaker 6: Honestly, I don't even know where they got that from. 00:12:10 Speaker 8: I think to most. 00:12:11 Speaker 6: Normal people, Mickey Mouse is just a cartoon that people like to watch whenever they're five years old, and is kind of an iconic American figure. But for them to turn that into and try to slander kind of an iconic and very wholesome, by the way, part of American culture, I think, rubs most people the wrong way. And it just it does not withstand any scrutiny at all. And I think that that's what I was trying to get there. I mean, if you're gonna say Mickey Mouse is rooted in racism, then defend that. Explain to the American people why you think Mickey Mouse is racist. And by the way, I hope that Democrats embrace this stuff because if they do, will continue to win elections every single cycle. 00:12:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a really good point. And it breaks my heart on some level that they've gone so insane and I don't even want to play. 00:13:00 Speaker 3: These Okay, I'll play one. 00:13:02 Speaker 4: The Crockett stuff is, I don't know how you sit through these these hearings with this guy, and I know she's going away, but still, let's just I don't even I'll just pick one because I know they're all obscene that this, uh, well this is short, so we'll give her a short one. 00:13:21 Speaker 3: Seven. 00:13:22 Speaker 7: Thank you, mister chair. 00:13:24 Speaker 11: Welcome to the Republican's White Pride Rally disguised as a Congressional hearing. 00:13:29 Speaker 4: So, speaking of DEI hearings that you're having, Congressman, I shouldn't I shouldn't lead you down Australa like that. What I mean this feels beneath the office. 00:13:41 Speaker 3: I think it is. 00:13:42 Speaker 4: As an American that still has respect for office holders, I still say mister president, mister vice president. Even when Joe Biden was in office, I called him President Biden. Some people didn't like to do that. This breaks my heart as an American to see how she's so debasing the office that she holds. 00:13:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, it really is sad. 00:14:00 Speaker 6: A step back from this, I mean, we're holding a hearing on political bias at the Smithsonian Institution and the best the Jasmine Crockett has to say is that this is somehow a white pride rally, which is an absolutely bizarre I mean, if if you know what we're saying is that you shouldn't have pictures of men in bondage gear and a history museum that's open to children, you know that the connection between that viewpoint and white pride is is pretty uh, pretty far away from each other. But you know it will probably get more of that today at the DEI hearing. I mean, at some point, you know, the left genuinely doesn't have anything to respond to. They know that they can't go into a hearing and argue that you should have uh, you know, extremely sexually explicit material in a children's museum because nobody's going to be on there, like normal people are going to be against that. They know that, you know, slandering Mickey Mouse or calling all polite people white supremacist is insane, so they kind of just fall back on Republicans are holding a white pride rally. I mean, it doesn't really have to make any sense, but that's where they go. 00:15:11 Speaker 4: So one of the central promises, I think if you could say this the spiritual promises it was around the campaign of President Trump in twenty twenty four, was this getting rid of d I extracting it from our institutions. So what specifically is you hearing about today and give you know, yourselves in Washington a scorecard of how we're doing so far two years into this. 00:15:34 Speaker 6: Yeah, the hearing today is with the president of the American Bar Association. Now, the American Bar Association is relevant because they give they set accreditation standards for law schools across the country, which means they have a lot of influence over one, what admissions looks like at law schools, and they've been using that influence to promote DEI and then two the type of curriculum that law schools promote. And they also if you're going to be a member of the A b A, you have to be a part of a continuing education series. All of those things are infused with leptism, especially with DEI, and that's what we're going after and the reason that we're going after this is I believe that the President has done a phenomenal job of being very clear through Executive order legally saying that DEI racial discrimination is illegal in the United States, and they've been going after universities that are still engaging in racial quotas and racial admissions processes. But it goes back to the same concept that these racial quotas and affirmative action in DEI is something that is so ingrained into colleges and universities, into the a b A that they're not just going to change that overnight. It's going to require constant pressure. 00:16:51 Speaker 8: And what we want to do is we want to expose the a BA. 00:16:54 Speaker 6: But I think that their legislative solutions that we can propose after this hearing that can reduce the ABA's authority over law schools, and I think that's something we should pursue pretty aggressively as well. 00:17:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a game of whack a mole because what you'll do. What they'll do is they'll change the name of their DEI program. We've seen lots of universities do this, and they'll use different words. They're experts at changing the meanings of words. That's one thing we know. Congressman Brandon gil thank you, my friend, and congratulations on just making a difference. You're doing great work. Please keep it up and we'll talk to it again soon. If you're about to turn sixty five and you're already on Medicare, this message is for you. Charlie cared about America seniors. 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We've got Tyler boy or COO of Turning Point Action in studio. 00:18:36 Speaker 3: Very excited to have him in the y REFI studio. 00:18:38 Speaker 4: So if any of you caught our election stream net last night, you'll you'll understand just how intimately aware of the details Tyler has been as Andy Biggs had a historic win last night. This is great. Throw up this graphic, Tyler. This is the clean sweep graphic that we have. I just sent it to you, the clean sweep graphic, and congratulations to all that. 00:19:04 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the right one. 00:19:05 Speaker 10: So this is this is our federal races last night. 00:19:08 Speaker 12: So it's just kind of I mean, we'll hit the clean sleep on once it comes up here. 00:19:12 Speaker 10: But we had a. 00:19:14 Speaker 12: Clean sweep of all Turning Point endorsed candidates statewide last night won their races. I don't know if we can throw that one up the state wides behind Andy Biggs. Andy Biggs had historic night last night, really showcasing how the Republican Party can come together in a state in a conservative way. You know, again, that's one of the points that Charlie made We showed those clips last night pretty regularly that. 00:19:44 Speaker 3: You know, I see what the issue is. 00:19:46 Speaker 4: So they're thinking that Heap lost in the graphics more wrong, Why don't we start there. 00:19:50 Speaker 10: No, it's a clean sweep. 00:19:51 Speaker 12: It's a heap he he Heap is up eleven thousand votes winning right now. 00:19:57 Speaker 10: Obviously there's still more votes account. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: Because in that particular that's the confusing. 00:20:00 Speaker 12: Yeah, so let's let's back up, so hopefully we can throw up the graphics because that we'll be able to explain to the audience if the graphics up. But uh, Andy Biggs led the ticket in a historic fashion. He is trending towards seventy five percent. 00:20:13 Speaker 3: Of the vote. 00:20:14 Speaker 12: Just so everybody understands Andy Biggs outperformed incumbent Governor Doug Doocey in twenty eighteen by nearly five six points. 00:20:25 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 00:20:26 Speaker 5: So he fa primary a real primary fight too. 00:20:29 Speaker 10: Yeah, and a real primary fight. 00:20:31 Speaker 12: And and Doug Deucey's primary opponent in twenty eighteen was much weaker, I would argue than David Swiker. David s Wwikers was kind of historically known in Arizona. This is kind of just between uh, the Tea leaves here of the election as one of the most proficient election guys in Arizona history. He won against an incumbent Democrat to get into Congress, a former mayor way back in the day different CD but so he's been known as it as a political genius, kind of iconic for a long time. It's been a long fall from grace, obviously for David Schweikert. A lot of people last night said he made a terrible, terrible mistake by stepping down running for CD one because he had the CD one. 00:21:17 Speaker 10: My seekindag just run for reelection. 00:21:19 Speaker 12: And he would have had all the support in the world. But you know, sometimes politics gets the better of people. He decided to run. We try to tell him like, hey, you know, Andy Biggs is very popular. He's a very popular guy. And again that was showcased down ballot. Everything else was also showcased. So every person that turning point at a statewide level endorsed. That includes Alex Colliden for Secretary of State against the former AZGP chair Genis Wiboda, who had been endorsed by Trump for other things. Kimberly Yee, who was the top vote getter in twenty twenty two for treasurer. She is running for superintendent. She actually knocked out an incumbent Horn who people had some concerns with him protecting school choice. Andy is going to make that a hallmark of his run. Elijah Norton, who's been a long time backer of Turning Point treasurer, former former treasurer for the azg P. And the last one that we were kind of waiting on was doctor Ralph Heap. So Corporation Commission is part of what sets the the rates U for the other big utility company in Arizona and the left. We've talked about this a lot on the show. So that the left, there's APS, which is the other one in Arizona. So Arizona is really just two big utility companies. They set the rates for the other big utility company. They're one of the largest influencers in politics. So I cannot state this enough Arizona, Arizona Public Service APS influences elections more than any other singular entity in Arizona. And they had their guy. They usually backed the incumbents. It's the same place to be. The two incumbents were running that were Republicans are running together and Ralph Heap was a Freedom Caucus guy, obviously the dad of Justin Heap. We mentioned this yesterday. 00:23:11 Speaker 3: The Maricopa County Recorder. 00:23:12 Speaker 12: Who's super conservative, who's helped clean the voter rolls, do all those things, Uh, move Arizona in the right direction. He was running and a lot of people were like, Ah, there's no way that he has any kind of chance. He was endorsed by turning point. He's the only guy that we endorse for Corporation Commission Commission. And it looks like he's on a very clear pathway to be the second winner, two winners too, and so he's he's on his way, which means that all of our state wide candidates had a clean sweep. Warren Peterson running for AG running it's uh, the incredibly politicized, terrible Chris Mays who has done nothing but go after Trump. 00:23:51 Speaker 4: Obviously gone after you, after the audience that maybe isn't aware she you know, came after Tyler and the alternate election schemes that stretch multiple states. Right, you go back to twenty twenty, there was a legal question of what was going to happen with the lawsuits, you know, and we didn't know so they had to do alternate electors in case the lawsuits proved to be Yeah. 00:24:16 Speaker 12: Again the successful, the quick you know recap of that twenty twenty. You know, they had screwed with elections so much nobody had any kind of faith following that. If you remember, there was about five or six states that again at three am, serious clip from Trump to others, all within thousands of votes. 00:24:34 Speaker 10: So thousands of votes gave us Joe up to Joe Biden. 00:24:37 Speaker 12: And you know, Adrian Fontes, who is the Secretary of State that alex College is running against here, was at the tip of the spear of that because he was trying to send force send everybody a mail in ballot during COVID, which is illegal, and the court shut him down. 00:24:52 Speaker 10: So you have. 00:24:53 Speaker 12: Three highly you know, verging on criminalistic, you know type Democrats started running in Arizona of Katie Hobbs, who's under investigation for corruption today for pay. 00:25:05 Speaker 10: To play schemes. So she's used her office to profit. 00:25:09 Speaker 12: Her friends friends number one and she's under investigation by Chris Mays, who's the age who's attacking political opponents, including us for obvious reason. She would love for us, She would love for me to be in jail right now so that we couldn't run election against. 00:25:28 Speaker 10: Her, you know what I'm saying that is. And then third, you have Adrian Fontes, who's literally one of the most. 00:25:34 Speaker 12: Progressive voices for a Secretary of State in America, trying to hijack Maricopa County. He was the Meericopa County Recorder got booted out of office by voters after one election because he did so many things to screw with the elections in Arizona that people naturally organically removed him from office. They put in Stephen Richard. He was not very much better. Now we have Justin Heap. So within four election cycles, we four different recorders of America County. But Adrian Fontez is that third. So Arizona now has locked in three conservative warriors to take out those three ultra progressives. Huge and this matters for the rest of America because the way the Arizona goes this election is the way that America likely goes in twenty twenty eight. 00:26:19 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:26:20 Speaker 4: And the big I think reveal last night with all of this is that there was an ongoing question. We've played these clips last night from Charlie talking about you know, Andy Biggs is a non conservative, right and the prevailing wisdom in the state of Arizona is that you needed to run a moderate in order to coalesce all the different you know, wings of the Republican Party in this state. Well, guess what, Andy Biggs just had a historic, unifying primary victory exactly, And that tells you everything to know about where we've come. 00:26:52 Speaker 9: And I think that it's worth emphasizing that because we've seen candidates who get the base very excited, but they can have an edge to that that'll make other people mad and you get a very disputed primary. Whereas Bigs, he gets the base excited, end they were excited, and he's sweets the history by sixty points. 00:27:09 Speaker 4: Nobody's upset because he's a gentleman, he's a stand up guy. He's been in this state for decades. He's proven to I guess, all different factions of the party that he is a man of integrity, that he is a conservative, that he means what he says, and he's not braggadocious, he's not brazen, he's not like you. 00:27:31 Speaker 3: Said that edge like. 00:27:31 Speaker 4: He's just a good strong man that and people believe him when he says what he's gonna do. So this is a huge turning point, pun intended for the state of Arizona, because we've never seen the Republican Party this united around any single candidate. And I think that is a testament to Andy Biggs's campaign, That's a testament to Charlie and a testament turning point actions work in this day. 00:27:54 Speaker 12: And really that's not just here in Arizona. I mean that is true in Arizona, like within the last forty years. Andy Biggs did something historic yesterday, But this is true across the country. There is not a gubernatorial candidate that had more broad based support. I would argue this election cycle that had a competitive primary against that person in any state, Like you look at deep red states with people incumbent governors. I mean you have incumbent governors that had real strong primary challenges. We just saw this in South Dakota then comment governor what basically had a one of the toughest challenges and act wasn't even the top vote getter in the primary election. You have numerous examples of this. Andy Biggs is unifying and he's bringing everyone together and we're going to work and March towards November together. 00:28:43 Speaker 3: I love that. 00:28:46 Speaker 4: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refin. 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I mean, I like our chances in the Senate a little bit better, we can focus on that too, But the House is the real question, and with less swing districts kind of narrows the focus of where we need to be be looking at. So where are you looking at right now? We start in Arizona. 00:30:04 Speaker 12: Yeah, so there's critical states. And Blake's pointed this out numerous times because the left started this entire war on redistricting, which started with Gavin Newsom, which is probably going to sink his political career because if the Democrats lose the House this year, I think everyone's going to blame Gavin Newsome permanently, probably forever. 00:30:22 Speaker 10: I'll go in the history books that Gavin. 00:30:23 Speaker 12: Newsome became kind of the the patsy for them on this. But once California started redistricting, all these other states are redistricting, so basically eliminated swing districts and every other random state the. 00:30:38 Speaker 9: Only swing districts in any state that is not currently itself a hotly like a divided swing states, which Arizona is. 00:30:44 Speaker 12: And the reason for that is because it's the only thing that the only states are left that has swing districts are swing states themselves because the voter rolls are so close that there's there's no way for the right or the left, yeah, to manipulate their way out of it. So that's left Arizona with two swing districts, which we have an independent redistricting commission. We didn't redistrict, nothing changed, but we've had those two districts that are on the verge, which was CD one. 00:31:14 Speaker 10: J Feely won last night. We like Jay's awesome. 00:31:17 Speaker 12: He'll be on the show probably this week to talk about his race. He's well positioned, he had a really strong night. Everyone kind of agrees that he's a great candidate. And then you have Juan Siscamani in CD six, who's also a great man, great dad, Hispanic heritage, great on the Mexico US border, great Republican defending the board. He's one of the only Republicans that is a huge race a border. 00:31:43 Speaker 4: Literally this race. I've just had this feeling that the House is going to come down to this race. I don't know why I feel that way, but it really really could. 00:31:51 Speaker 12: And that's kind of how things trended out for twenty twenty four too. 00:31:54 Speaker 10: If you remember people are really watching these races. 00:31:58 Speaker 12: Then you have Iowa, you have Zach Nunn, and you have Maryonnette Miller Meeks who are in their district their respective districts. 00:32:04 Speaker 4: And then do you remember Mary and Aette Mary Miller Meeks barely eking out that what was it twenty twenty It was like ten votes. 00:32:11 Speaker 10: Yeah, we we actually went out. 00:32:12 Speaker 12: We were one of the only organizations that did a Superchase event, did a Super Saturday style event. 00:32:17 Speaker 10: For Maryonette Miller Meeks. 00:32:18 Speaker 12: She ended up winning by just a handful of votes, and so the everything matters in those races. You then have h Derek Van Orden in western Wisconsin, who the left is running a DSA style candidate that's trying to be masked as this cutesy little you know young woman. 00:32:39 Speaker 3: Derek was Wisconsin three. 00:32:41 Speaker 10: Yeah, Wisconsin. Uh, that is the race to watch. 00:32:45 Speaker 12: That is probably, in my opinion, going to be the determiner. I think that's actually a Bellweather race to watch. If we win that, I think we win Congress. If we lose that, I think we lose Congress. 00:32:58 Speaker 7: Uh. 00:32:58 Speaker 12: You then have other races and other swing states. So Michigan you have there the son of the sheriff Bouchard, who's running, uh to replace John James who's reigned for governor. And then you have a race that was watched very closely that we actually participated in the last time in CD seven with Tom Barrett. 00:33:19 Speaker 3: Tom Barrett who replaced. 00:33:21 Speaker 12: Slotkin, who ended up winning. So this was how crazy last election was. Trump wins Michigan, Slotkin wins Senate, and Slotkin Slockin's. 00:33:33 Speaker 10: Uh. The person that follows Slockin, what do you call it? 00:33:36 Speaker 5: A successor successor? 00:33:38 Speaker 12: Yes, successor loses and the Republican wins in CD seven. 00:33:43 Speaker 4: So Michigan is Michigan's all over the place, but. 00:33:47 Speaker 12: Michigan has It's very interesting because right now if they if the Democrats nominate DSA supported social supported l said, uh, you have a real opportunity to say that, I mean, this will be the heart and soul of Michigan this time, which is do you do you elect a normy Republican, which Michigan was kind of known for for for many decades, or do you nominate a socialist a socialist back candidate, And and that is on its way Wisconsin. We mentioned Derek van Orden, but you also have a really important governor's race there right now, and the DSA is supporting a candidate named Hong. She's like this little girl totally DEAs I mean this is she is full throated out in public, not even trying to hide it. 00:34:33 Speaker 10: Socialist. 00:34:34 Speaker 12: And Tom Tiffany again kind of normy guy, very similar to Andy Biggs in races. So that both Freedom Caucus guys both kind of normy, awesome guys, but they're they're really from their state. They really represented another state. 00:34:49 Speaker 7: Uh. 00:34:50 Speaker 12: And then and then you have some other races obviously that are across the country. We're focused on New Hampshire. We think that New Hampshire is one of the most underrated Senate races with so New New you have a congressional district that's there, that was that's right on the cusp as well with Anthony de Lorenzo, who just got endorsed by the President, who's running for the same seat that that Caroline uh ran for Levitt Caroline in New Hampshire. 00:35:16 Speaker 4: So and then so we got but that you're talking about New Hampshire, we gotta we gotta get. So now we've got to get and so that's New Hampshire got to get so new new elected. 00:35:26 Speaker 3: A Z. 00:35:26 Speaker 4: We gotta get Andy Biggs elected. At Nevada, we gotta protect Joe Lombardo. 00:35:30 Speaker 12: Joel Lombardo is running for re election as really one of the gyms of the r G. 00:35:36 Speaker 10: A uh, he won. 00:35:38 Speaker 12: Remember the flipped that that seed. It was very close last time. Yeah, didn't we lose the Senate? We lost the Senate. Adam Lacksaw aparently lost and Joel Lombardo barely won. And so this is really important for the future because again Nevada, Arizona, and Wisconsin are all on the same tracks with Senate races. There's no Senate race this year, right, so you have three governors races that you hope to win because there is no Senate. 00:36:05 Speaker 4: Race, and they're not all these outside groups aren't dumping one hundred million dollars into each Yeah, so that gives us a better opportunity because Dems have basically unlimited money, which is another conversation for another day. Okay, commit one hundred and ten seconds. 00:36:17 Speaker 12: Yeah, so pitch tpaction dot com slash one hundred. You can sign up, you can pre register now. We're going to be announcing this soon, but we need your help. In Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire, but Arizona in particular well off. 00:36:30 Speaker 10: Thousands of people out here with hotels and everything else. 00:36:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get a free hotel. All you get to do is talk to voters. 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So Alan, welcome back to the Charlie kirkshow. 00:38:33 Speaker 13: Hey, guys, good to be back on all. 00:38:35 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. Well, let's just dive right into this. 00:38:38 Speaker 9: I don't think the story's gotten the attention in the US that it ought to, and I think that's partly because your own country's press is determined to not let this get too large. 00:38:47 Speaker 5: Tell us, tell our. 00:38:48 Speaker 9: Viewers, who was Anne Whittacomb if I said that right? And what happened to her? What have we learned over the last few days. 00:38:57 Speaker 13: So Ann Widdecombe has been a fixture or fuck conservative politics in the UK for many decades, since the nineteen nineties. In fact, she wasn't particularly a well known figure in recent years. She wasn't like highly visible as she was perhaps in like the two thousands and twenty tens, but she was still regularly on British TV. She would advance conservative positions. She was known for being a staunch, unwavering social conservative. She opposed things like gay marriage and abortion, and because of this she was often a popular hate figure amongst you liberal UK talking heads. Our version of late night comedy shows that sort of thing. She's not someone you'd be and as we've what happened in this story is she was now she's been murdered. She was murdered by what appears to be a radical communist. We're just now getting more details about this. The suspect, the person who's been charged in his political viewpoints. He attacked her at her home. She was alone in her home in the English countryside. And it's interesting has as you guys were talking about how the police initially responded to it. They didn't initially suggest it was politically motivated. They suggested it might have been a robbery gone wrong. And the other thing they didn't do, which is very important, is they did not release the name of the suspect, who has now been charged for many many days, and now it appears like all of his social media has if he had social media, it's gone like this, it's been scrubbed from the internet. So it's making it very difficult to find out, you know, for the public to find out information about this individual. 00:40:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what we now have learned and correct me if I'm wrong, but this individual obviously went out of his way, traveled some distance to commit this murder. The weird part about it for me is that this first point you made that she was sort of known, is this staunch social conservative, against gay marriage, against probably all the trans insanity. Do we have any indication yet that this is what animated her alleged killer here, Well, we. 00:41:14 Speaker 13: Suddenly know a little bit about him. We know he had strong left wing sympathies. There was a video circulating on social media earlier today him speaking at a communist meet up some years ago. And you know, various far left literatures discovered at his house. 00:41:30 Speaker 9: Not even I'm looking at this is the Sun, so I know it's a tabloid. Maybe they get ahead of themselves, but it says allegedly they had newspaper clippings of Nigel Farage and Reform like pinned to his wall, like you're thinking of like the meme from what is the officer always said it sound like, Yeah, it sounds like a lunatic basically, like pinning newspaper clippings to the wall of the guy's list. Yeah, that's that's terrifying actually because Nigel, as we know, as the leader of which is the largest right wing political movement in the UK. So this guy is almost fantasizing about his hit list, is what it would seem. 00:42:12 Speaker 13: It does seem that way, And this goes to like Another point that Nigel Parrage has made is that he's had to pay for private security, and I believe the the UK Home Office only recently offered to give to up his security level because partly because of this murder. This murder of Anne Whittacombe, who was also, by the way, a Reform spokeswoman, so she was part of Nigel Farage's party. There's been some speculation that Nigel Pharah that this person would have preferred to target Nigel Faranje but his security was so good, so was too good, so that you know, Ann whittickm was sort of an easier target. And also Ann Willkim is the sort of person you'd only really know about if you're like very plugged into politics, which this person certainly was. 00:43:00 Speaker 9: I'm just looking at the details in this case, like in addition to it being to pray, drove a very long distance, clearly was fixated on this person. The murder itself is horrifying. It's not coming out bludgeoned her to death twenty one times in the head with a hammer. This is a almost eighty year old woman. She was out of politics, out of well, she was on TV, but yeah, she was not a member of Parliament for the last fifteen years. It just I'm thinking of like the equivalent. It would be the equivalent of someone in America Phillis Schlafley. She died a while ago, but you know, when she was in her old age, if someone had driven across the country to break into her home and murder. 00:43:40 Speaker 4: It reminds me of the White House Correspondents Dinner, where this guy was in California and he would he take a train and all this other stuff, like goes all the way across country to go and try and shoot up where the president is at in the White House Correspondens Dinner. I mean, when you see that type of distance traveled, you know that there is a fixation on a particular target. You have to be motivated uniquely for this person. 00:44:03 Speaker 13: I think that's right, and I think you know, Anne whittikm was some of was one of these people that if you were like a far left, you know, a far left lunatic, she would be one of the people that you'd think of you who would come to mind as like a one of the most one of the most right wing people in the country. Perhaps, you know, Nigel Farish might be more prominent. But if you're like a true political obsessive, you know she's someone you might have known about. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: And as you said, the. 00:44:28 Speaker 13: Distance he traveled clearly points to this being a targeted killing. And what he also said goes to the wider point, right, this is now a transatlantic international trend of political assassinations. Three assassinations, attempts on the president, including during the campaign, the assassination of Charlie of course, and there so many other incidents of violence that we've been seeing in the United States, you know, attacks on ice facilities as well on government buildings, and now it's crossed over to the UK as well, it seems. 00:45:03 Speaker 9: And on top of that, what stands out to me, she's most known as a social conservative. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but social conservatism isn't that strong in the UK. She opposed abortion, but you guys have liberal abortion laws that are not likely to change even if reform were to win. You guys are not going to repeal gay marriage like at least in the US, social conservatives have won elections recently. But she was an outlier. This guy fixated on and just murdered her. I just can't get over how horrible this is, and then the police dragging their food. 00:45:37 Speaker 4: The lack of outrage, and I mean candidly when we talk about these connections to Charlie's case. You had Tyler Robinson go from southern Utah drive all the way up to Orum, so this is a. 00:45:47 Speaker 5: Most the exact same distance. 00:45:48 Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, it's like both these cases over three hours. 00:45:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, which is just very weird. Actually in the UK, it's not like a road trip culture in the UK, you end up taking the train. It just there's a lot of stuff here in The real offensive part is just the media blackout, the silence. You have to go to social media to see anybody reacting to this in any sort of like with you know, enough outrage that it deserves. 00:46:12 Speaker 9: We just got a great video of Anne Whitttercomb, the woman who was Handsley murdered. We're getting it loaded acep oh. I think it's ready to go. It's her talking fittingly enough about the importance of freedom of speech and not getting triggered. 00:46:25 Speaker 5: Or upset by it. 00:46:27 Speaker 3: Clip twelve. 00:46:28 Speaker 14: Now, only two sorts of people are pose free speech, and they are at opposite ends at the scale snowflakes and totalitarians. Nobody has the right to live their lives being protected from a fence or from insult or from hurt feelings. It is an occupational hazard of living in society and if you really can't take it, become a. 00:47:02 Speaker 9: I think that's I think that was that literally in the Oxford Union there, the same place Charlie would have been speaking. There's a dark irony to that there, of course, because she says occupational hazard as you might hear things. But now in Britain, the occupational hazard is she spoke bravely for unpopular views that she believed in. And this guy throw up that photo of him holding the candy again. Jack would be having a field day with this. It's he's got that smile. He's probably one of those guys who would say kindness is everything. 00:47:31 Speaker 5: Have you ever tried not being. 00:47:33 Speaker 3: In this person? Love is love? 00:47:36 Speaker 9: And it sounds like he went and committed a depraved murder against freedom of speech. 00:47:43 Speaker 5: I just can't get over that. 00:47:46 Speaker 4: She by the way, I just love her. I have to say, I just love her. She is every time when I describe myself as an anglophile, actually, I mean I can't stand England nowadays. 00:47:55 Speaker 3: But but I love. 00:47:56 Speaker 4: The British culture and I love the history of England that's spread it all across the world. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: Big fan of it. 00:48:03 Speaker 4: They are the absolute best building blocks for a civilization. Makes me so sad he is an inheritor of. 00:48:08 Speaker 9: Britain had women like that, and you can see her and she makes such a great argument. She can present herself so well, and they chose something radically different. So I want to take this zoom out alim. I feel like this is just the latest horrific crime that has a political valance to it in Britain. 00:48:26 Speaker 5: We already had that murder of that young man. 00:48:29 Speaker 9: Who was stabbed to death, Andy Novak and Henry Novac and all of this. What's the overall situation? You guys have a new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham. 00:48:40 Speaker 10: Are we are? 00:48:41 Speaker 5: We still? 00:48:41 Speaker 7: Are? 00:48:41 Speaker 9: We hopefully trending towards positive changes in Britain. My understanding, you can correct me if I'm wrong, is that Burnham is not going to correct the trajectory of cure Starmer's fallen government. 00:48:51 Speaker 13: No, I don't think he will, and he's already you turned on some of his proposals. He wanted to raise the tax free income cap and he backed down on that, probably because of pressure from permanent bureaucrats at the Treasury. And you know, he said he's going to scrap a digital ID scheme, He's not really going to scrap it. He's going to rename it. I don't I think it's going to be very limited in what he can do. I'll tell you what concerns me this, This murder happened to a reform spokeswoman, a conservative before. You know, while Reform is not even in government, there's no right wing party in government right now. It's the left wing Labor Party. I worry what might happen if reform actually does when the next election, how violent the response will be. We saw how the election of Donald Trump kicked off a wave of violence in the US with the attacks on on on ICE facilities, on Tesla's, on the fire bombings of Tesla stores, all of these things. It's it's interesting that we're already seeing violence again directed against Reform officials, reformer spokespeople when they're not even in government. So that's probably going to be at east two or three more years off labor government in the UK. And I wonder how this will escalate if reform maintains it leads in the lead in the polls and and wins the next election. 00:50:12 Speaker 9: And I know, you guys live tragically in a totalitarian nation, the Brits. Is there any anything that these lawmakers or these prospective reform in government people could appeal to to defend themselves? Can you get a gun if there are is a chance someone will break into your home and try to kill you with a hammer. 00:50:33 Speaker 4: Can they can they obscure their address or something? I mean, it's obscene that this guy founder too, by the way, Yeah, it's. 00:50:40 Speaker 13: It's pretty difficult to buy a gun even for self defense in Britain. Pharaoh shubushing in security, but there are so many other people in reform and on the right to like lower down the ranks and won't have that level of protection. Maybe they should now it might be, it might be a good idea, but but there's the level. The response to the killing as well is what's it's what's what's disturbing. So many people were celebrating it on social media. There was very a very muted response in the press as well, partly because of that delay in the police confirming whether or not who who the subject was initially and what his potential political motivations might have been, or not not confirming even initially that it was a that it was a premeditated murder. And this this meant that there was a series of days that went by when you know, the picture wasn't exactly clear, and that that sort of gave the media and gave left incommodated this space to just ignore the story or just have a muted response to it. And especially with the trend of violent attacks continuing in the US. We saw that ice that attack on the ice facility in New York just a few days ago, you can see this trend continuing. 00:51:54 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, I'm looking now, I just searched, I basically just searched will to com on X and I'm finding there's freaks on Blue Sky. Heather Herbert is going back to sleep. I don't know if that's her name, but she says it's a link to the murder, and she says some good news for once. I hope it was an extremely painful death. There is something wrong with the left. There's something very wrong with the left in the UK. And we're grateful you came on. So many Americans we care about the fate of our mother country, the country that birthed so many of the liberties we value in America. But we can tell that the clock is ticking towards midnight to save this country because there's a lot of very bad people doing very bad things, and we don't have that many people like Anne Whittacomb. 00:52:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, Alan, thanks for joining us. 00:52:44 Speaker 4: We appreciate the insight here, and yeah, we pray for safety of everybody in the UK and in the US we have the same problem. 00:52:53 Speaker 3: Alan, talk to you soon. 00:52:55 Speaker 8: Thank guys. 00:52:58 Speaker 4: For nearly three thousand years, Homer's the Odyssey has shaped Western imagination. 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We're not attacking the but he's basically raising issues or questions he has about Charlie's assassination. As a starting point, establish your background, your CV, why should we listen to you as an expert on these things? 00:55:15 Speaker 2: So I did you know? 00:55:16 Speaker 11: I spent about sixteen years in the military before I was medically retired. Started off my career in the infantry, was ranger qualified, was a sniper section leader in the infantry, and then went to Special Forces selection and became the United States Army green Beret, got s F sniper qualified while I was there. Have roughly four years of combat in total underneath my belt. Missions against al Qaeda, isis, the Taliban, al Qaida in Iraq, you know, things like that. I'm seeing places like East Africa, Middle East, and Ukraine before people even knew where it existed. 00:55:49 Speaker 4: So you've got a pretty impressive resume there, and you understand ballistics, you understand explosives. So I'm going to play this clip. There's actually two clips because he's done it twice. It's gone on news Max and he said the following Sop fourteen. 00:56:05 Speaker 15: It's not like I'm out there saying big lie or a conspiracy or someone did it. I'm just saying this thing looked shady off the bat. I mean just I've killed people closer than I saw the camera, and I've never seen a shirt move like that. That looks like an explosion to me. I'm a COE Team six sniper. I'm asking a lot of questions. 00:56:22 Speaker 8: No one wants to answer him. 00:56:23 Speaker 4: Okay, so that was a couple months ago. The clip gets dredged up on social media as if it was breaking news, but it was actually a couple months old. So he got asked about it again on Newsmax. This was just yesterday, Sop fifteen. 00:56:37 Speaker 15: I don't think Charlie Kirk got shot the way they're saying. That's all as a sniper with a bunch of kills up close and Jack having I don't do the research on this either, but Jack has zero. 00:56:46 Speaker 8: So let me be the man in the room for a second. It looked off. It looked off. It seems like a cover up. 00:56:50 Speaker 3: That's it. 00:56:51 Speaker 15: I'm not saying who did it. I don't mean if their guy did it as a sniper, someone with kills. I saw that happen. Wow, that looked off. I don't like rewatching it. I knew Charlie Kirk. This isn't fun for me. But I'm not going to just see something and have a bunch of people with no experience really killing people telling me that I'm wrong. 00:57:05 Speaker 3: I'm not wrong, Matt. Is he wrong? 00:57:09 Speaker 2: Yep, he's wrong. Yeah, And you know I understand where he's coming from. 00:57:13 Speaker 11: When I first saw it as well, I had originally thought the shot ended up coming from behind, and then I immediately ended up withdrawing my statement with a couple hours based on everything that's coming out. 00:57:23 Speaker 2: I have any experience in shooting people that that. That's not an. 00:57:26 Speaker 11: Excuse for saying that I've I haven't seen anybody's shirt come up like that. Most of the time, that's not exactly what you're paying attention to when you're when you're in the middle of business. 00:57:36 Speaker 2: But yes he is. 00:57:36 Speaker 11: He is dead wrong and and all of those statements that he's making minus that, you know, it looks off. But once you understand terminal ballistics, you start to understand what actually ended up happening after that. 00:57:47 Speaker 2: And you know, going. 00:57:48 Speaker 11: Through military snipe of courses, you you get a lot on internal and external ballistics. What what the projectile is doing inside of the rifle once it leaves leaves the rifle and it's flying through the air, but once it ends up going over an impact your intended target, that's where things start to get a little bit of wonky, and there is not a lot of information that's out there on it, But there is also a lot of information out there if you know where to look, specifically when it goes down to these types of rifle cartridges and what ended up happens when they impact flesh. 00:58:17 Speaker 9: So, Matt, let's dive into that because a lot of the weird theories they've kind of taken two. I'd say the core strands people essentially claiming the bullet the thirty odds six round would not be capable. It would have to leave an exit wound, and so therefore the wound that killed Charlie could not come from that. And then also people again they're fixating on T shirts and how it's floding to suggest, yeah, exploding microphones would do this. So I guess that's what your post on X that we saw dove into. 00:58:49 Speaker 5: Can you dissect some of the. 00:58:51 Speaker 9: Science, the unfortunate, grizzly science here of why we can enjoy confident that it was a bullet acting the way a bullet would that caused this all to happen. 00:59:01 Speaker 11: Yeah, so we can go ahead and we can get rid of the exploding microphone theory rought off the bat that got revived by man goes by the name of John Bray thoroughly debunked him. People are welcome to go over to my ex profile and ticket at the work at the end of the day, even half a gram of pettin at the amount of petent that's in there in a shaped charge explosive is work equally right. They're basically omnidirectional when they end up going off, and that little half gram of pettin ends up exploding into a gas to space of about four hundred cubic inches instantaneously at over eight thousand meters a second. That means that little plastic microphone underneath the shirt would have instantly been gone long before anything ended up reaching his neck. It had blown a hole in his shirt easily the size of that microphone, and there'd be clear signs, clear signs of some damage to his tissue. So that within itself didn't happen. All right, we can just start off there. 00:59:48 Speaker 2: A shape charge is not a magical charge. 00:59:51 Speaker 11: It's been around since the late eighteen hundred's, right, and it's been studied ever since. It's used in RPGs, it's used in lots of different things in the defense industry. If there was a way to focus all the explosive energy into a single you know, jet that doesn't have any sort of opposite and equal reaction, right Newton's laws of physics that we're talking about here, Please let me know and also allow the people in the fields of physics to know that as well, because you are introducing a fourth dimension. So yeah, and when we start talking about the actual projectile itself, Okay, the one that we believe he used, it hasn't came out wholly in the court of law yet, so this is speculation. 01:00:27 Speaker 2: But it's well based speculation. 01:00:30 Speaker 11: Based on the photographs that ended up getting shared in his pre trial, those most certainly appear to be Remington one hundred and fifty grand corelock ammunition. That particular projectile for the thirty on six has been around since the late nineteen thirties, all right. 01:00:44 Speaker 2: It doesn't use modern day bonding techniques. 01:00:46 Speaker 11: It's got a soft lead point and it's got a thin copper jacket that wraps around it. And the reason you have to have that thin copper jacket is because that lead would basically be disintegrated if you were just you know, shooting it out at the barrel at the velosses that we shoot these things at. That thin copper jacket also helps create seal and it's actually, you know, if you were to take that projectile and measure it, it's actually slightly larger than the bore of the barrel. So it gets squeezed down that barrel and it slightly deforms it. And as it's being squeezed on that barrel and it slightly deforms it, you know, you have an issue that goes into the actual overall balance of the projectile itself. These elongated projectiles are very front heavy as opposed to back heavy. And no matter how how much we'd like to, we can't perfectly balance these things out. So with the improper balance, along with it being squeezed out the barrel, you end up getting what's called yaw. That happens when this projectile is flying through the air. That yaw causes it not to spin in a tight spiral like a football, but kind of to slightly wobble it. That knows, and depending on where that wobbles at when it ends up impacting the target, that creates you know, different effects. 01:01:47 Speaker 2: And termina ballistics. 01:01:48 Speaker 11: Now, this projectile it self is designed to essentially mushroom out is the term people like to, you know, bring up. 01:01:54 Speaker 2: It's designed to mushroom out. It's soft point. 01:01:55 Speaker 11: And the reason they do that is so that they expand and it creates more drag. 01:01:59 Speaker 10: You know. 01:02:00 Speaker 11: Older's whine a lot about the five five six, the green tip that you know, armor penetrating rounds that we have that were standard for the military for a very long time, just as zippen right through guys. I've shot people with them and just washed them fall down and get right back up. The reason is because you're just punching holes in them a right, it's essentially taking an ice pick and going and there's no energy transfer. So the reason you have these is because that they create much more energy transfer by opening up and biting into more meat. That projectile itself that we just saw those pictures up that's up on the screen ends. 01:02:29 Speaker 2: Up opening up the moment it comes into content. 01:02:32 Speaker 11: Please, yeah, yeah, bring that up there we go, so here we can see that that copper jacket that has opened up. Now, with the study that was done back in the nineteen sixties of over five thousand casualties from World War two and from Korea, they ended up determining that y'all ends up being the most distinguishing factor in terminabilistics overall and within within just three inches, right, within just three inches of flesh. And this is using full metal jacket rounds, not ones that mushroom ount and create more drag. Within just three inches a flash, it can actually tumble up to ninety degrees. So you have that very thin copper jacket as it's mushrooming out and then it's just going to rip apart. And we're also talking about lead here. Lead is a very soft metal in general, when it's just room temperature, it's soft. You can pick away at it with your thumbnail. When you shoot that thing down a barrel, it starts superheating it from the friction of the barrel, and as it's flying through the air, all the friction from the air also gets that round really nice and warm. 01:03:26 Speaker 2: It gets really hot. 01:03:28 Speaker 11: Once things start to heat up, they start to become a little bit more malleable, particularly. 01:03:31 Speaker 2: Lead and brass and copper. 01:03:33 Speaker 11: So when that stuff ends up hitting, all right, it's not hitting with the full strength as it would if you were just sitting there tapping in a room temperature. 01:03:39 Speaker 2: It's actually a little bit more malleable. 01:03:41 Speaker 11: All of that ends up creating that jacketed yaw that goes that that energy dissipation that ended up taking place that full stop within the neck one hundred percent is proven within this one photograph right here of how that went down. 01:03:53 Speaker 4: I just want to say to the audience, I'm sorry that we're talking about this candidly. We talk about it a lot during the preliminary hearing. It's an unfortunate thing that we have to do because there are and again I'm not trying to disrespect Rob O'Neil's service. I have a great respect for his service to the country. But this becomes fuel that is then taken and they run with it, and next thing you know, Erica Kirk's being accused of something heinous. Okay, So we have to deal with the actual science and the facts, and we have to have responsible people like Matt who know this inside and out and are experts on this topic shed light on it and debunk this stuff as it comes up. 01:04:36 Speaker 3: It's like whack them all. 01:04:36 Speaker 5: We have to emphasize this. 01:04:38 Speaker 9: The goal of a lot of people pushing this is they want Tyler Robinson to get off free because they have all of this out there in the miasma, and someone will get on the jury and be unconvincible. 01:04:51 Speaker 4: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why REFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about y REFI for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. 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I didn't even know you at all. 01:06:10 Speaker 4: I reached out when I saw your analysis on bullet yaw and things like this, explaining the ballistics behind this and the signs behind it. 01:06:20 Speaker 3: But you have done. 01:06:21 Speaker 4: You have done a brave thing, and I just want to thank you for that genuinely, and I think it's so critically important. We've got this b roll from a guy named Valhalla. I guess who's a you're aware of who this person is. 01:06:34 Speaker 3: I'm not. 01:06:36 Speaker 4: He's trying to emulate. I guess the angle, the trajectory, the caliber round with a pig. Why don't you explain what we're about to see and what you actually think the takeaways are from this? 01:06:49 Speaker 11: Yeah, So I actually had a phone call with his name's Nate. So I actually had a phone call with Nate the other day and talked to him specifically about this. Nate's stance on this, contrary to how everybody likes to spin it is, he actually does think that there is a chance that it could have stopped in the neck, particularly after doing this. Now, this animal itself has been gutted, all right, It has been gutted prior to it it was freshly killed, but it has been gutted within the neck. It's missing a lot of fluids okay that ended up going in there, and it's also missing a lot of how do you want to say, internal parts that would have normally been in there when he ended up shooting it. The one big takeaway that he ended up saying, actually, in my opinion, goes to validate the paperwork that I actually ended up publishing, which shows within the first four inches, and you're going to hear this out of Nate's mouth, you know at some point this video, guys will watch it. 01:07:35 Speaker 2: Within those first four inches, it. 01:07:36 Speaker 11: Actually ends up dissipating most of the energy within it. Now that's without the fluid and fluid dynamics is actually one of the most important things that goes into internal ballistics or excuse me, terminal ballistics when it ends up striking the target. Now, the one thing that Rob O'Neil had stated was he didn't understand how Charlie shirt could have puffed up like that, And I believe his exact statement was the vapor trail could have possibly caused the shirt to puff up. But the clip that I ended up sending to you earlier with the timestamp does in fact show the the air displacement from that projectile flying through the air when it ends up striking that pig's neck. You will see it puff all of the grass over behind the pig. 01:08:13 Speaker 4: All right, So I guess our team actually stripped out some of the audio so we could react to it live. So I don't know if we can put this this up, but it's the b roll here, and I think they added a slow most. This is him up on a on some sort of lift and he's shooting down with the thirty odd six. I think he's trying to emulate the angle that would have been, you know, at the low C center down into the amphitheater and he's shooting the pig. And so you're you're drawing our eye specifically to the moving the rustling of the grass and what you repeat again, what is your takeaway from that? As a terminal ballistics expert. 01:08:53 Speaker 11: So all right, so when you start talking about, you know, sniping long grain shooters, they've all seen this phenomenon. And for you guys that haven't seen this, it's something that's called spotting trace. It's not a phenomenon. We know it's happened. The bullet's cutting through the air right as displacing air as it's flying through the air. As it's doing that, it's pushing it out of the way. 01:09:11 Speaker 8: Okay. 01:09:12 Speaker 11: Air can actually compress, okay, and it can compress to a point to where it actually can start fires, believe it or not. And so as that bullet's cutting through the air, that's what it's doing, and it's pushing and it's moving it. 01:09:22 Speaker 2: When you're getting shot at and. 01:09:23 Speaker 11: Those bullets are flying pretty close to your body, you can feel them going past you, the air being moved, and so what you're witnessing is that projectile goes and it impacts that neck. Is that air still moving, you know, and being pushed by that projectile up until the point of impact Once it does so, it's still in motion. Right again, we're arguing with laws of physics or they are, Okay, that projectile still in motion shows that air it just doesn't magically stop when the projectile ends up impacting its intended target. So that air then goes and it hits and it flows almost like water around that neck. And what ends up happening, believe it or not, that air can actually compress as it's going around because it's hit a certain object and it's allowing it to flow around, and that air will actually continue to compress until it comes out the other side when it dissipates. And that's actually what happened with Charlie Kirkshirt. 01:10:12 Speaker 4: So yeah, again, I hate even We're not going to obviously show any of those images, but that seems to be their central critique. So we know that air compresses. By the way, anybody who's flown on an airplane knows that as like an object's moving forward, it pushes the air out. That's what creates the pressure underneath the wings that gives a plane its lyft. 01:10:35 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, so we know that air moves. It's you know, it's not this invisible thing. It actually has mass. 01:10:42 Speaker 4: This I wanted to go back to this ride up, and by the way, Matt did a phenomenal ride up. I just want to give one small graphic warning. At the end, you're proving it's a gunshot wound, and there is a frame, and I just I want to say, so if you look up this report, the science is excellent and it is a refutation of a bunch of this uh stuff that's floating around. I just want to give if anybody looks that up, I just want to fair warning. And I understand why you did it, Matt. 01:11:09 Speaker 5: You're gonna say what it has an image of Charlie being shot. 01:11:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, but but just a still frame of it to prove that. Visually it looks like exactly what you're describing here, And I understand why you did it matter seven shock? 01:11:20 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cybersetic shock, it's what it's what's extrapolated and ballistics gel which people like to point to. And I can tell you that ballistics jell is not equal to human flesh. And I think that's the next important thing that we've got to address. 01:11:31 Speaker 2: Is it's just not equal. Okay, good there, Yeah, yeah, fairenoughs why it's there? Yeah, blistics jell isn't equal. Yeah, okay. 01:11:38 Speaker 11: I mean we're a little short on time. It's going to take a hot minute to be able to get that out. But y I'll say this, yeah, go ahead. 01:11:45 Speaker 3: No, you go go for it, Matt. The floor is yours. 01:11:48 Speaker 2: All right. 01:11:48 Speaker 11: So one hundred and twenty four grain nine millimeters hydroshock ammunition penetrates roughly twelve to fifteen inches of ballistics shell. The thirty odd to six corlock ammunition goes through about sixteen to seventeen inches of blistics. Yeall, one individual I saw that got shot in the face with that nine milimeters round, okay, And again it's twelve to fifteen inches versus sixteen to seventeen inches. Okay, penetration of ballistics jeall stopped within this guy's skull, all right. It didn't exit his face, It went into his cheekbone, and then it stopped within his head. And roughly estimating, you know, just a couple of inches of worth of penetration out of that, so twelve inches of blistics, yell, a couple inches of human flesh. 01:12:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not the same. Matt Tardio, Please check out his stuff. He's doing great work and he's a brave fighter for truth speak. The truth is his show. Thank you so much, Matt, and thank you to the audience for bearing with us as we correct the record. 01:12:37 Speaker 3: It's important. 01:12:42 Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.