Could the Ayatollah Bomb The Dallas Cowboys?

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's March twelfth, twenty twenty six. Welcome, Blake, Howdy, lots to get to We're gonna start off with a guest here right at the top of the hour, and that's Stuart Kaplan. He's a former FBI special agent. Because we have an FBI report that suggests the Irani regime could target California with drones. That's right, a drone attack off America's West coast, and so we need some experts to help us break this down. So welcome to the show, Stuart Kaplan, former FBI agent. 00:01:41 Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Thank you for having me. 00:01:43 Speaker 3: Well, it's an honor to have you. Let's go ahead and play one of these clips here just to set the table for us. I think it's important. As an ABC report cut nine. 00:01:52 Speaker 5: The FBI warning of possible Iranian drone attacks on our homeland. A new alert reviewed by ABC News revealing Iron's aspirations to conduct a surprise attack specifically against unspecified targets in California, the FBI saying it's warren police departments across the Golden State now of strikes by unmanned aerial vehicles or drones as tensions rise in the Middle East. 00:02:15 Speaker 6: The alert that we reviewed said an uncorroborated report suggested that unidentified Mexican cartel leaders had authorized at tax using drones carrying explosives, so they know that capability exists. And this separate alert that we've reviewed Kira says that Iran has those same kinds of aspirations. 00:02:35 Speaker 3: All right, So Stuart, what are you hearing? What's separate fact from fiction? Here? Please? 00:02:42 Speaker 7: So let me give you some unfortunate facts and a real reality check when you go back October seventh to twenty twenty three, when Hamas attacked Israel. That was a real wake up call to our Intel community across the board, and I can tell you on Unfortunately, as you may recall, some of our most stellar politicians were on the sidelines offering their congratulations to Hamas and other proxies in an effort to downplay the impact that that devastating day had on Israel and on their Israeli citizens, and the Intel community became very alarmed at the prospect that anybody here, domestically homegrown, could go online, go to their local hobby store and purchase a drone and easily and readily adapt a drone and attach and improvise the explosive device, and that device could also allow someone to be anonymous, meaning that apparatus or that drone could be deployed without anybody knowing where that original deployment happened. For example, you could deploy from your house, from a rooftop, from a backyard, anywhere because of the GPS technology that is now readily available, and the FBI became very alarmed at that prospect. Unfortunately, during that period of time, with the Biden administration being too concerned about play caating the Palestinian movement and our higher academic learning institutions with lowering the American flag and raising the Palestinian flag, it became a lack luster effort or an effort that was not existed. And now the bells and whistles are resonating and the alarm bells are off the charts. With respect to now playing ketchup, the problem with now trying to play ketchup is there are too many people that have entered into the United States unvetted, unchecked, unchallenged, as well as our borders are open with respect to social media, gaming platforms, the Internet, and homegrown terrorism and sleeper cells are here domestically. I don't care if you just take, by way of example, the two suburbanites that came from Pennsylvania last week to New York City and tried to deploy improvise explosive devices. Fortunately they were identified and neutralized very quickly. But that's a perfect example of the climate that we are living in. And so the threat of deployment of drones anywhere in the United. 00:05:33 Speaker 4: States is real. It's here, it's. 00:05:37 Speaker 7: Been unchallenged, it's been unchecked, and we now are in a catch up period to try to identify and neutralize those potential threats. 00:05:48 Speaker 3: So I want to play a clip from President Trump yesterday about the sleeper selles. He was asked about it, and we'll get your reaction on the other side. Cut six, Hey Friday, hit us that have you been briefed about how many irand sleeper cells there could be inside the US right now? 00:06:06 Speaker 8: I have been and a. 00:06:07 Speaker 9: Lot of people came in through Biden with a stupid open border. 00:06:11 Speaker 3: But we know. 00:06:12 Speaker 4: Where most of them are. We've got all of them. 00:06:15 Speaker 9: I think, if it doesn't they came in through the open border policies of sleepy Joe Biden, one of the worst, the worst president in the history of our country. And we've got our eyes on all of them. 00:06:30 Speaker 10: Do you buy that, Stuart, You know, in fairness and just being transparent, I'm not so sure that our government has our eyes on all those potential sleeper cells, or it would be nearly impossible to have our eyes, whether digital surveillance or physical surveillance, on every individual who has come into the country unchecked or unchallenged. I think the the other issue that's percolating is you have the drug cartels that they themselves are under a tremendous amount of pressure. 00:07:03 Speaker 7: Because the United States has flexed finally its muscle to try to neutralize that threat in Mexico. 00:07:10 Speaker 4: And so I think the drug cartels can. 00:07:12 Speaker 7: Easily be persuaded to fund or assist or aid other individuals who, quite frankly, are enemies of the United States. And we have a conversion of multiple fronts, multiple threats. And of course keep in mind that the purchase of a drone is not a very expensive proposition. Anybody can go into a big box store at this particular time in our lives and go into Best Buy and buy a drone, and easily go online and adapt it to disperse or dispense or drop and improvise explosive device or attach some sort of chemical agent to it. That's a significant threat. And unfortunately, and I can use by way of example, I could part my car or my van outside the stadium in Dallas, Texas at a Dallas Cowboys football game unchallenged, you know, with very little if no security with respect to at least getting into the parking lot. A wait until such time as maybe the first quarter, second quarter halftime, whenever I decide, and I can open the hatch of my van and deploy a drone and fly it into and onto that stadium before anybody would be able to identify and realize the potential threat. 00:08:36 Speaker 4: It would be way too late. 00:08:38 Speaker 7: And that is the danger and the reality that we are confronted with right now. 00:08:44 Speaker 4: Now. I'm not trying to be an alarmist. 00:08:46 Speaker 7: You've asked me a question, and in fairness to your viewers and to your listening audience, I think it is better for us to be better informed. And I will say this to your viewing audience that we all in twenty twenty six play a role in if you see something, say something, because our national security, our potential way of life is at risk. We are the greatest country on this planet. We enjoy our freedoms, but right now there are too many countries or too many individuals that would like to see us on our knees, and that would be a change of trajectory of our where we have been as a nation. 00:09:28 Speaker 3: Stuart, I want to put up this quote from Caroline Levitt. She said this post and story should be immediately retracted by ABC News for providing false information to intentionally alarm the American people. They wrote this based on one email that was sent to local law enforcement in California about a single unverified tip. The email even states the tip was based on unverified She highlights that intelligence, yet ABC News left out this critical fact in their story. Why to be clear, no such threat from Iran to our homeland exists and it never did your reaction. 00:10:01 Speaker 4: So let me just say this. 00:10:03 Speaker 7: I don't know where ABC actually got that information, But again, I want to be clear to your audience, not only is there a real threat with respect to the deployment of drones, there is a real threat with the utilization of ultra lights. 00:10:19 Speaker 4: Now, some of your viewers may be too young to remember or to know. 00:10:24 Speaker 7: Ultra lights are like a kind of like a hang glider with a propeller. 00:10:30 Speaker 3: Ye, little what was that in the Super Bowl or something where they landed in the middle. 00:10:35 Speaker 4: Of exactly Yeah. 00:10:37 Speaker 7: Yeah, those improvised type of cheap, inexpensive apparatuses that are readily available to anybody to the consumer online. We're also deployed on October seventh of twenty twenty three. 00:10:51 Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah. And I want to be clear start. I don't want to give any of the bad guys ideas out there, but I understand your point for sure that there are cheap, homemade ways to cause havoc and to attack Americans, to commit terrorism in the homeland. 00:11:08 Speaker 7: And to your point, I don't want to give anybody any further ideas either. But what I want to try to do is that you know, it used to be we were solely relying upon law enforcement and our intelligence community to keep us safe, and most of the time it was better that we didn't really know what was out there, because to some extent we may end up in the fetal position and may say to ourselves it's just not worth getting out of bed. But I want your viewers to know that we shall never ever succumb to any threats, whether domestically or abroad. But with that being said, we all play a part in paying attention to our surroundings and to our neighbors and our loved ones and even our family members, because often, too often, more recently, is that people who are the closest to these individuals, there are some signals or some red flags that have they been brought to the attention of law enforcement, may have been readily identified and neutralized the threat before the consequences play out. 00:12:11 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I want to I want to play this other clip as well and get your reactions toward because you know, I'm just curious, you know, what you're hearing with your contacts. I think it's important. Uh. Top three police. 00:12:25 Speaker 11: An alarming report of threats outside Iran. ABC News reports Iran maybe activating sleeper cells. Quote the US has intercepted encryptive communications believed to have originated in Iran that may serve as an operational trigger for sleeper assets outside the country if true, further illustrating Secretary of State Marco Rubio's point, we are fighting a terrorist government. 00:12:50 Speaker 3: So that I kind of want to square the circle here because we're talking about maybe homemade you know, maybe even individually inspired, like we saw with the Sylvania suburbanites that went over to uh Gracie mansion that's homemade d I do it yourself stuff, right That that was a report that seemed like they had a trigger and they were going to get actual Iranian ier GC members that had infiltrated the border under Biden. So what what are you hearing? Is the is the bigger threat here or is it just kind of both in right now? 00:13:22 Speaker 7: No, I think the greatest threat to all of us is is quite frankly, the Internet and being indoctrinated by these extreme extremists that have the ability to be faceless and to prey upon our younger you know generation, whether on a gaming platform, Instagram, you know, Facebook, you name it. That our children are so unfortunately distracted by all of this noise out there, and that unfortunately, you know, some of these younger kids are so impressionable and so apt to being influenced that the bad guys realized that we can now sit, you know, in our other countries and target these younger kids to get them to carry out these dastarly deeds. And so, by way of example, again I mean somewhat redundant, the two individuals that I believe were eighteen years of age in suburbanite Pennsylvania travel to New York City to rain havoc. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, living in a two million dollar home. 00:14:23 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is correct, And so the kids next door could be the next kids to now carry out some terrorists, you know, active terrorists. 00:14:31 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I want to make one point. I called around yesterday when I saw this report, and there is some indication to believe that this was a previous report from like early February, before the strikes it even happened, you know, because if you're gonna if it, I think the DIY stuff is really I think that's really insightful and you know, terrifying on some level. And so if you see something, say something absolutely message heard loud and clear. We all have to contribute to the to the safety of the country. But you know, as far as them getting you know, a ship close enough to you know, three three thousand kilometers and send it in some of those unmanned aero craft that we've seen in the Middle East at that I don't think that's as reasonable. But the cartel angle, that was what piqued my interest in a big way because I believe completely. You know after Elmentha went down, that the cartels could be very motivated to get involved and try and sow some chaos here domestically. Final thirty seconds to you, Stuart No. 00:15:30 Speaker 7: I mean to your point, well, the cartels are so well funded, they have so much money, and so they can hide behind as a subterfuge and have us think that it may have been the Iranians, It could have been the Chinese, it could have been the Russians. And that also lies in heightening the threat level and the risk of it being misplaced by blaming one group when it could come from another. At the end of the day, like I said, we all play a part in this. I think our government now finally is doing everything to keep us safe. 00:16:01 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean when you see those pictures of the cartels and they've got like rocket launchers and armored vehicles, they got capacity, There's no doubt stoirt Kaplan, former FBI agent, Thank you for your time. Thank you for I think the prescient warning, see something, say something. 00:16:17 Speaker 4: Thank you. 00:16:21 Speaker 3: Every day Americans make choices that shape our country's future. Write down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's what most people don't realize Patriot Mobile isn't just a wireless provider. They're an activist organization funded by selling top tier cell phone service. They've been out on the front lines defending our freedoms long before it was cool, standing in the gap when others wouldn't. 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I want to give you, guys a bit of a roundup of where we are at in the war right now, because what are we We're we're like eleven days in something like that, about about and so we've got updates, and we haven't really done a play by play of how the war is being operated and executed because there's just a lot of fog of war stuff. But here's what we know, well. 00:17:57 Speaker 12: Fo fog of war, and it's just you know, you know, wars are sort of exciting and interesting, but at the same time they move slowly. They consume a lot of attention, but then a lot of time will pass where not much will happen. 00:18:11 Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of going back and forth that doesn't necessarily translate into any significant meaning for the audience either. So we're bombing more things. Okay, what's the actual status though? So listen, the Iranian military is basically firing back single digit missiles per day right now, maybe low double digits, all right, So there's been a lot of capacity that's been taken out. Fifty five hundred targets have been hit in the first ten days of the conflict, and that's a lot. Fifty five hundred is a lot. Even General Petraeus was on with Jesse Waters last night saying that this is from any way you cut it. And I'm not saying you have to be supportive. I'm not saying you have to be against. I'm just saying, militarily, this has been a route. Okay. It doesn't mean that Iran doesn't have levers to pull. They do, but militarily we control the skies. We bomb it will, we strike it will, and that's something that we need to be aware of. So every ship that Iran has their navy has been completely obliterated. We've just hit out I think another twenty eight ships that were capable of laying minds in the straight of horror moves. So that's a lot, okay that anytime they move or put their head up, we get them. Okay, there, that is much, very much true. We hit their biggest bank, the one that pays the IRGC. I think this is a very interesting piece of intel as well. Do you have a thought on that, Pall Well, I mean, I don't know the bank. It's not like matters physical buildings of banks nearly as much as it well, it matters when you hit the infrastructure, their ability to pay the IRGC troops so apparently there's a paycheck that's supposed to go out at the end of this week to their military. Now if they stop getting paid, that could be a huge problem. Now their currency is in free fall, their economy is in free fall. You know this is going to continue putting pressure on the Iranian regime, There's no doubt, all right. So all of these things are positives. Now I want to play something actually from Newt Gingrich here, because there is a counter point to be made. So what are the levers that Iran can pull? Here's that new Gingrich explaining his thoughts on it. Cut fourteen. 00:20:28 Speaker 13: They have to keep the strait of Hormos open. Yes, I don't care what it costs. If they can't keep it open, this war will in fact be an American defeat before very long, because the entire world, including the American people, will react to the price of oil if the strait stays closed. Right long. So I lived through this with Reagan as you did in the late eighties. Keeping this trade open is the number one job because it buys you time, all right. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: So this is a ally of the President who is being very wright about his concerns here, and I think there's truth to this. The straight of horn Moose is the key to a lot of this conflict. Because we have a new clip from Iranian state media some of the first, if you will, comments out of the new Supreme leader, the allegedly allegedly and what clip is this guys? Okay, yeah, this is his first public statements. We're gonna play this for you. Allegedly. We haven't seen this guy, he said, not come out of his bunker, if he's even alive. 00:21:31 Speaker 8: Cut four On Iranian State media, a presenter read a new statement from Iran's new Supreme leader, most Taba Khamanai. The Supreme Leader said in the statement, we believe in friendship with neighbors and only target the bases, and we will inevitably continue that is not true. We know that many golf countries have had their residential and civilian infrastructure attacked. Now, Iran's new Supreme Leader in this statement goes on to say all US bases should immediately be closed in the region and those bases will be attacked. He calls on unity among the people of Iran and participation in KOD's day. Also says that he will target a US bases in the region. Iran's new Supreme leader goes on to say the closure of the Straight of Horror Moves should be continued as a tool to quote pressure the enemy. 00:22:16 Speaker 12: All right, so I feel like we should probably explain what the Strait of Horror moos is. 00:22:20 Speaker 14: I'm not sure if we ever. 00:22:21 Speaker 3: Out, well, I'm yeah sure. 00:22:23 Speaker 12: So if you look at a map of the Middle East, I don't know if we have one any there we are, So that's the Strait of Horror Moves. 00:22:29 Speaker 14: So Iran is on the north end. 00:22:30 Speaker 12: So if you think of the Persian Gulf, it's that body of water and that's kind of where all the oil, all the gas is. 00:22:36 Speaker 3: Twenty percent of the planet's energy flows through the street. 00:22:40 Speaker 12: And so Iraq is right at the end of that gulf. That's where we went in, That's where Kuwait is. And then on the south end of it you've got Qatar, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia. Those are all big oil gas exporters. Irans on the north end, and that little choke point, a little space, is what a huge amount of the world economy basically flows. 00:23:00 Speaker 14: Through and Iran. 00:23:01 Speaker 12: You know, they can't hopefully they can't easily hit the United States, they can't really easily invade the other countries, but they can sort of hold the world hostage. And what they're planning to do here is they say they can close the Straight of Horn Moves by laying mines, which we're sinking boats to lay mines, but submarines can lay mines. I mean little motor boats can lay mine feed boats. I wouldn't be surprised if like frog men can haul minds into place. 00:23:27 Speaker 3: They might have big challenge to. 00:23:30 Speaker 14: You have rockets. 00:23:31 Speaker 12: And if you want to know how difficult it is, Houthi's which is that militant group in Yemen. They've been harassing ships in the Red Sea and we really struggle to root them out. There have been ships that have been sailing all the way around Africa to avoid going through the Red Sea because they don't want to get blasted by Houthis. And that's a militant group in Yemen, not a whole state. So the concern of this war is that they would. 00:23:53 Speaker 14: Be able to keep that closed. 00:23:54 Speaker 12: And I think we should be frank with you that there's been a lot of discussion. You know, maybe President Trump could just declare victory, and you know, he doesn't necessarily need to bring down the regime. He can say we sank their navy. They can't have nukes. They're really degraded. President Trump can't declare victory unless the straight of horn mouse is open, correct, period, So he either has to strike a deal to open it or he has to force it open. 00:24:15 Speaker 14: Only then can he say is it a win? 00:24:17 Speaker 3: Right? And that then turns our attention to the new Supreme leader, a gentleman that we're told his name much Taba KAHMANI all right, the. 00:24:28 Speaker 14: Son of the previous? 00:24:29 Speaker 3: Yes, how many? 00:24:30 Speaker 12: But he's besides that, it's he's kind of a cipher in truth. In fact, we don't we said that that was that first statement he'd given, but that you didn't see it t say it. We don't know if he's injured. We don't know if he's a vegetable, We don't know if he's alive. He could I mean, we've blown up a lot of the Iranian leadership, so it could be very handy to have this symbolic leader that we know nothing about, and then someone else is able to call the shots without getting blown up. 00:24:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's the problem is that he, in theory, could be more hard lined than his father. So he's fifty six year old son of the late Ali Komeni, Arond's longtime Supreme Leader, who was assassinated on the first day of these strikes. He was picked as successor by the Assembly of Experts in a quick election March third to the eighth, twenty twenty six, so just just a few days ago, and he's the That makes him the third Supreme leader since Iron's nineteen seventy nine revolution. All right, so before this much Taba Mataba never held an official government job, but apparently he was known for pulling strings behind the scenes, in the shadows. He has he ever held the government job. I don't know he's ever given a public speech. Yeah, he apparently is reported. Again, these are some of this we just don't know. As Blake said, he's a bit of a cipher, but some reporting indicates that he is long held deep ties, deep connections within the Islamic Revolutionary Guard the IRGC through his father's office. He was a mid mid ranking cleric who's been whispering in the ears for years. That's how it's been put. He allegedly got hit in the leg during the same strike strikes that killed his father. According to Israeli officials, he's been m i a from public views since becoming leader of March eighth or ninth, no video appearances yet. This was the first public statement that had been attributed to him. Again, we don't even know if he said it. There's been cardboard cutout AI videos going all over the internet of this guy is kind of a meme, a joke that we've never seen him. And you know, if this is to be believed that, yeah, there's the cardboard cutout. If this is to believe be believed that this was in fact a statement from him, then we see that he is doubling down, he is not shrinking back. And so I think that we have to be honest about the fact. As Blake said a full circle moment here, that if you cannot open the strait of Hormus, this will be a long drawn out conflict that you cannot simply declare victory and get out of. 00:27:07 Speaker 12: Yeah, and so we just kind of offer some big picture perspective. There's a lot of back and forth. First of all, anything you see online, remember most of it's fake, Huge amounts of AI stuff, huge amount of just made up stuff, unverified claims. Remember, there's gonna be people claiming we have one hundred percent one and there's people claiming we've already lost, and neither is true. Remember President Trump said he had about a four to five week plan for the campaign. 00:27:32 Speaker 3: Even and we're. 00:27:34 Speaker 12: Basically one third of the way into that, there is a lot that can still happen. 00:27:38 Speaker 3: Yep. And he said, by the way, all the messaging from Secretary of War Pete heg saith President Trump is that we're not done yet. But you know, militarily, we've done a lot of damage. And that is certainly true. But just remember this. No regime has ever been removed by airstrikes alone. 00:27:55 Speaker 12: Hey, we're excited to tell you about Charlie's favorite supplement. 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Strong sell dot Com forward slash Charlie check it out right now. 00:30:30 Speaker 3: So Pete hag Seth is aware of this, and he went hard actually when asked about the Strait of her moves. UH spelled s t R A T no g H. 00:30:41 Speaker 12: Well, we know when we declare victory, maybe we'll rename it the Gay of Horror moves. 00:30:47 Speaker 3: All right, here we go, Cut two. 00:30:49 Speaker 15: I would reiterate also to add what the Chairman said the truth. The President posted last night about that, saying, if Ron does anything to stop the flow of oil within the Strait of Horror moves, they will be hit by the Night States of America twenty times harder than they have been hit thus far. He goes on to say, death, fire and fury will rain upon them. You've seen the truth and read it, but he takes very seriously the condition of that straits. We have capabilities that no other nation on Earth has, and we're certainly working with our energy partners across the Administration to control for that. That's part of that scoping of this. The world needs to understand, this doesn't have this isn't intended to be nor is it something that will Expand we know exactly what we're attempting to achieve here sculped properly and the American people can count on that for sure. 00:31:36 Speaker 3: All right, So, Blake, you were talking to some naval experts and some shipping experts about this. We're actually lining up some guests on that front there, so we got We know that the IEA agreed to release four hundred million barrels of reserved oil across the across the world to help with supply. On the supply side, we know that there is ships in the Strait of Horror Moves that are too scared to move forward. Some of them even got struck. There was fires. So we don't believe that they have the ability Iran to take out these tankers necessarily, but they could. And it's all about it's all. 00:32:14 Speaker 12: About escalating risk and if you want to for those of you who like history, this is also what happened in the world wars. 00:32:20 Speaker 14: How did Germany try to win World War One? World War Two? 00:32:23 Speaker 12: They had submarines, They surrounded Britain, they tried to sink ships coming to Britain. And it's not that they had to ship sink every single one. They had to endanger them enough that civilian ship captains would not want to sail their boats there. They would say, no thanks, I don't want my boat to be in danger. 00:32:43 Speaker 14: And that's what you have here. 00:32:44 Speaker 12: Like frankly, you kind of see the point when President Trump says that they should be braver. He's basically saying, there's hundreds, maybe thousands of these ships. If you guys tried to go through, they really can't damage or destroy more than a fraction of you. But it's just an where ships don't really want to take that risk. They don't want to think I could be the one who gets blown up for trying to do that. And there have been ships that have gotten hit, they've taken damage. There might be some people who've died from this. And if they're able to slow it up enough, the entire global economy sort of grinds to a halt. 00:33:17 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, President Trump has a clipout. I don't think we have it loaded, but he essentially says they need to be more crazy. I think they should go through. They can't stop them. And there is a story of a crazy Greek. 00:33:27 Speaker 14: Yes, I was reading. 00:33:29 Speaker 12: There was a thread on x about what ships have gone through, and apparently there is a highly risk taking Greek admiral who are an admiral a ship owner who he's maybe done this with the Red Sea too, where he says, let's run it through. I think we'll turn off our transponders. So it's harder to spot these ships go through at night and just risk it. But another aspect that's made this complicated. For example, there are civilian Iranian ships that actually are still sailing through the straits. We're not sinking them. There are apparently there are Chinese ships that go through and they basically just loudly broadcast this is a Chinese ship and they assume iron will not take a shot at them, and they haven't. Right, And so it's not that it's totally closed. It's that some ships are able to go through, are allowed through. 00:34:13 Speaker 3: But if you are looked at as part of the American allied or the sort of establishment oil industry that's unsanctioned, then you're getting hit now. Also, we should note that Saudi Arabia has Beguinn routing. They have a they do have a pipeline to get through the Red Sea, so they are routing. 00:34:32 Speaker 12: That there's a lot of alternatives. A lot of these countries along the Gulf are not they're not super friendly with the Saudis, a Qatar and the Saudi Arabians for example, or famously don't get along that well and Qatar can't pipeline, or they'll probably not want to pipeline through Saudi Arabia. 00:34:49 Speaker 14: And I wonder if. 00:34:50 Speaker 12: This were to go on long enough, you might see President Trump trying to forcibly impose more cooperation among these countries and saying, you guys need to work together to get through this crisis. And they've all been shot at by Iran, so yeah, that might get them all more eager to cooperate. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: Now, the reports to indicate that there is a lot of cooperation actually within the Arab world at this point. 00:35:11 Speaker 12: If you want a white pill about this conflict, it's that Israel and then all of the Sunni Arab states have gotten shot at by Iran, and that could be in the long run a way that you go towards all of them papering over past differences. They've all been attacked by this same rogue state, and that can potentially maybe that leads to all of them signing the Abraham Accords, all of them having a long term piece steal, you know, match that up with Gaza Sea's fire stuff and rebuilding that that would be an optimistic take, and we want to flag those optimistic takes because there is a lot of doomerism out there. There's a lot of frustration, and we should point towards upside potential opportunities as well as potential has well. 00:35:50 Speaker 3: What you're seeing this conflict devolve into is that Iran's military might could never withstand the US Israeli joint military. That was never going to happen. What this could devolve into is more of a guerrilla war type situation where they use just the fear and uncertainty of passing through the Strait to really bog down energy markets, which is the long term issue. Then you see the new Supreme Leader going underground, not coming out because if he comes out, he's going to get killed. Israel has already basically said we intend to kill him. And that is another front on this whole Iran war that we need to keep our eye on is that the objectives of the US and Israel could be divergent. Right. Israel wants to see complete regime change. I think President Trump is a little bit more pragmatic, realizes that if this keeps dragging on for too long, that he's going to want to pull out into clare victory. But again you have to assume that no regime change has ever been successfully accomplished through only aerial assaults. So that brings us to carg Island. Now, carg Island is another piece of this puzzle. So carg Island sits off the coast of Iran. It's been described as there it is, there's a picture of it. It's been described as the cast register of Iran. This is where their oil ultimately sort of goes and then it gets loaded onto tankers and then shipped usually to China basically. And so the question is are we going to use troops? Are we going to use special forces? That carg Island is a very important piece to this puzzle. If you were to put troops on that island, could you hold it, would you be able to protect them? Would they be sitting ducks? But you could essentially cut off their oil flow and increase pressure on the Iranian regime, on the economy of Iran, to force potentially regime change pretential protests in the streets. If you just occupied that, I. 00:37:48 Speaker 12: Feel that is that I feel is a very dangerous set of words, like, oh it starts off, just occupy this little island. 00:37:55 Speaker 3: I totally send in little squads to do. But it's on the table. You better believe it's on the tables. I think, I think you could. 00:38:03 Speaker 12: There is certainly a defensible case a few limited raids, a few tiny groups of guys. It's not the same as big boots on the ground taking Tehran and all of that. It's not the same as a ground invasion. That's subjectively true, but it is Each of those little stecrimental steps leads you towards something that certainly Charlie warned against. 00:38:20 Speaker 3: President Trump himself warned against all in the past. 00:38:23 Speaker 12: Well, you just have to be no, we just have to be very careful because there are certainly people out there who would love to see a general ground invasion, and I think we have to keep warning against that. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth through Hillsdale College's free online courses he studied, the great works of the Classics, the principles of the American Founding, and the life changing truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him, they shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he took was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale Professor doctor Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path toward reconciliation. It's a real college course, rigorous, thoughtful, and accessible to anyone willing to learn. You can take the very same course completely free. Grow stronger in your faith, gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world. Prepare yourself for a life with courage and conviction. Visit Charlie for Hillsdale dot com to enroll today. That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. Learn Deeply, Lead boldly, carry it forward. We are joined by the Great Miranda Divine. She is a New York Post columnist as well as author of The Big Guy, a new book that you got to check out. Miranda, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to have you. 00:39:57 Speaker 16: Thanks so much, Andrew. It's an honor to be with you all. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: You know what's funny, Miranda, I actually still am using that charger that I stole from you. That that mobile charger. It's baby blue. Have you ever seen me with a baby blue mobile charger? It's Miranda, Miranda Devine's fault. Anyways, thank you for that. It was it was a gift. It was a gift I stole because I was in a bind and you were very sweet and you said, here take this. So Miranda, I woke up this morning to social media showing me all these images of what's happened to Gracy manch I. I do not have a memory of Gracie Mansion ever being this much in the news. First there was the IEDs that the media falsely reported were targeting the mayor and actually they were targeting anti Muslim protesters up front of the mansion. And now we see that it's been turned into essentially an if tar a celebration, I guess a Ramadan related celebration, Muslim celebration. Let's just go ahead and play one of these clips for you. This is mayor Mom, Donnie speaking some language. I'm not sure which cut twelve that is America, that is not Ai. Miranda, What what am I watching? What happened? What's going on in New York? Please? 00:41:22 Speaker 16: Well, I mean you're watching the takeover of the city by a radical Islamist. He's not just a communist, he's an Islamist. And it's not like he hid that from us. I mean, just a couple of weeks before the election, he tweeted out, very proudly a photo of him having a lovely you know, meeting with a nine to eleven imam or a guy who was an unindubted co conspirator in the first World Trade Center attack, not not nine to eleven, but still he was proud of it. It wasn't anything that he is going to hide, and so you can't say that voters didn't know what they were getting. And then, of course, in his victory speech, he singled out all the people that got him elected, which was all the foreign born New Yorkers and people who've been in New York for less than ten years. So you know, anyone who's been who is a long term New Yorker did not vote for them, Dani. So that's what we've got. And since he's been in office, he's really I actually I knew he was bad, but I thought, well, he'll have to moderate because he's got to really be mayor for the whole of New York and there are a lot of business interests, and you know, surely he'll have to moderate. But he has not done that. And the perfect example was this last weekend when we had these two alleged ISIS radicalized sympathizers because you'd call them who young men who threw bombs id's and are filled with shrapnel to cause maximum carnage into a group of protesters outside Grace and Ancient. And you know, the first thing named Danny does when he comes out is talk about white supremacists and bigotry and racism has no place in New York. And then finally he gets around to, oh, you know, violence has no place like violence. It wasn't violence. It was a terrorist attack. And thank goodness for the NYBT Commissioner Jessica Tish because she came out and just basically called him out by saying, very pointedly, let's not be confused here. This was a terrorist attack by two guys who swore allegiance to Isis. 00:43:56 Speaker 3: Do you get the sense, Miranda, that New Yorkers are way looking up to the reality of their Muslim mayor that seems to have more allegiance to his own faith, to his ethnic background than he does necessarily to the city of New York or to America. 00:44:13 Speaker 16: More broadly, I'm not sure that anyone who wasn't already woken up to it is woken up to it or cares, you know, I mean the sort of the people. The protest outside Gracie Mansion on Saturday was an anti Islam protest run by this rubble rouser right winger Jake Lang. 00:44:34 Speaker 4: Right, and. 00:44:37 Speaker 16: And so the Isis guys came in to throw bombs at him and his group, But there were there were a whole bunch of sort of counter protesters there who say everyone is welcome in New York, and they would have been blown up just the same, but one of them. You may have seen the guy with the megaphone, and one of these terrorists reaches over and throws the bomb over his head, and the megaphone guy looks quite surprised. Well, he said, since oh, well, you know, I still think that everyone is welcome. So I don't know how you change leftist fesso ingrained in their ideology. They've been brainwashed since the moment they set foot in their very elite private schools in Manhattan. And they you know, they went to universities, and I mean Columbia for instance, had the big pro Hamas demonstrations that made every Jew in New York feel in fear for their lives. And who does Zora and Mamdani has for a special dinner on Sunday night, just twenty four hours after the bomb outside his mansion, Gracie Mansen he bombed, it didn't go off. I should have run out. 00:45:55 Speaker 17: He he has Mamud Khalil over, who was the pro Hammers activist agitator who organized those protests and who's. 00:46:06 Speaker 16: Born in Algeria. Is an Algerian citizen, it's not an American citizen. And the Trump administration wanted to deport him quite rightly, and you know, various judges, leftist judges have got in the way. And he's become a cause celeb for the left. And Mamdani treated him to this very special dinner on Sunday night and tweet its photos of it. 00:46:29 Speaker 18: To rub it in. 00:46:31 Speaker 12: So obviously these symbolic acts are I mean, they're getting a lot of attention and they definitely matter. Do you have a sense what's the city feel like on the ground. Are we seeing a surge of the disorder that makes life less level? What's it like on the subway now versus maybe a year ago? And where do you expect that to go in the months to come. 00:46:50 Speaker 16: There's the only sign so far has been that they just seem to be more homeless on the streets. And Eric Adams had done quite a good job of especially I mean they're mostly mentally ill. They are all mentally ill and or drug affected, and so Eric Adams had sort of instituted this sort of rule where you could take them off the streets involuntarily, because of course, if you're drug affected or mentally ill, you're not going to be thinking rationally. So but Mamdani came in and immediately unwound that, with the result that the first big snowstorm that we had, we had something like a dozen homeless people froze. 00:47:34 Speaker 3: On the street. I think it. 00:47:38 Speaker 16: Right, Okay, some of the Mamdani goes, oh it was drug overdoses, right, But I mean, they died and it was because of his policies, and that's his version of compassion. So and apart from that, he's completely inact when it comes to the basics of being there, like plowing the snow and fixing the potholes. 00:47:58 Speaker 17: So you do notice that a. 00:48:00 Speaker 16: Stream is fooling a pot. 00:48:05 Speaker 3: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at y Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. 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So a live look there thanks to our Fox TOWO Detroit helicopter as we see that there is some smoke there from a building and that seems to be where the helicopter is concentrating this live look. It's a little hard to tell, but we do see that emergency responders are surrounding this building. According to Fox two Detroit, there is a threat underway at Temple Israel there in Michigan. 00:49:50 Speaker 3: All right, So we're joined by Miranda Devine breaking news. A major scene reported at Temple Israel in Detroit, the Detroit area, Bloomfield area. Smoke is seen pouring out of the building. Several police vehicle spot around the perimeter the Jewish Federation of Detroit has ordered all Jewish organizations to go into lock out protocol Miranda. This seems to be the latest in a series of I don't know if you want to call them sleeper cells. We can only so we can only guess at the motivation, but it seems related to a lot of the violence that we've seen since Iron situation is unfolded your. 00:50:27 Speaker 16: Thoughts, Yeah, absolutely, And I mean where that synagogue is in Detroit is the largest Jewish population in Michigan, so it's well known West Bloomfield as being a Jewish neighborhood, and of course Detroit itself larger metro Detroit has one of the largest Muslim Arab American populations in America. So Dearborn, which is the sort of ground zero of the Muslim presence there, is about twenty miles away. So I mean, you know, obviously it's too early to joining conclusions, but it seems pretty obvious that this is a targeted attack, and who has motivation to targets so especially I mean, you know, Department of Farmeline Security has warned us that the Iron Moore has raised the threat of sort of lone wolf style attacks in the Homeland, and we've already seen several of them, you know, the Austin, Texas shooting, the guy wearing the run flag shirt and the Allery is Great Tish hoodie, and then of course on the weekend these Isis guys. I will say, though, the counterter guy did point out about the weekend that those guys, although the media made out that they were provoked into you know, their their violent actions by the right wings, white and white nationalists or whatever they were Jake Lang protest protests, there's no way that they would have been able to get organized in the time that that protest took place, because he points out it would have taken months to organize, to prepare the bombs, to buy all the ingredients, and they had a storage locker with a whole bunch. 00:52:15 Speaker 17: Of bombs in it. 00:52:16 Speaker 16: So this is this is sort of part of what you would think that there whoever is orchestrating this, is activating these cells. 00:52:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is an interesting question. If you know, there was a report yesterday, I think we played a Will Kine clip earlier in our one that said there could be a potential trigger that Iran could put out to trigger some of these these sleeper cells. But whether it's a do it yourself lone wolf situation or a trigger of IERGC members that slipped through the border under Biden, the result is the same is that we have communities living in fear. Especially as you I think aptly pointed out, Miranda, that West Bloomfield, known Jewish community in Michigan, largest in the state, twenty minutes away, twenty miles away from the ground zero for the Islamification of America, right. 00:53:09 Speaker 12: Right next to I mean, there's a very old Jewish community in Detroit. It's been there a very long time. More recently it's yeah, as you say, the center of Islamic settlement in the United States. That's always caused some friction, but it's really ramped up a lot. 00:53:24 Speaker 14: Charlie warned about this all the time. 00:53:26 Speaker 12: That there is a huge surge in just anti Semitism and jew hatred in America. A lot of it is coming from immigration, a lot of it's coming from the left because it hates Israel a lot. 00:53:37 Speaker 14: But also, let's be frank, some of it's also happened. 00:53:40 Speaker 3: On the right. 00:53:41 Speaker 12: And it's a recurring bugbear. It infects people's brains. They ramble about it online and for some of the I think some of them think it's just like funny, but it's very lethal for a lot of people. 00:53:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, Miranda, when you you know, obviously New York has a huge Jewish community as well. You talked about the way that the October seventh attack and the response from universities like Columbia made the Jewish community feel unsafe in New York. Have you heard from any of your Jewish friends in the City of New York? I mean, how are they reacting to what's going on in Iran? Are they on security? Iss it increased? I mean, what what what is happening with the Jewish community in New York right now? 00:54:24 Speaker 16: Well, drew in New York are already you know, locked down maximum security because it's been such a hostile environment for them since October seven, like since the very day before Israel retaliated in Gaba. They have been under siege. So they're you know, the ones I know anyway are very much for what President Trump's doing in Iran. I think it's absolutely crucial. And and just Abhoor Mamdani and just feel feel kind of betrayed by following New Yorkers that Mamdani is now you know, an Islamist. It basically got voted in on the heels of the October seventh backlash. So I think it's very sad. The other thing I'll just point out about Dearborn, which is interesting, is I remember way back when, you know, before the twenty four election, when we were all fighting this fight and Charlie was doing that so well about you know, transgender children and girls in women's sport and indoctrinating children about gender in schools. And you know who was a very good ally on that, it was the parents of Muslim parents in Dearborn, Michigan. I mean, I remember being quite surprised and seeing that they were very vocal, and that was something that the Democrats paid attention to because that's their base. So it's very sad that, you know, you can have peaceful allyship with these people and then suddenly it turns lethal, like you know, it seems to have happened today. 00:56:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen this in your home nation of Australia as well, the Bandai Beach shooting, and you know, it's it's really sad to me that Melbourne is now listed as one of the cities obviously that happened at Sydney, but Melbourne is listed as one of the cities the hotbeds for radicalization for Islamists. So well, the whole world's flipped upside down. 00:56:23 Speaker 16: And do you know Melbourne is the most left wing city in the whole of Australia. It was the one that had the harshest lockdown in the world that everyone embraced and then re elected the same government that did that, and very left wing and they're like frogs in boiling water, have very good friends there and they just love it because I mean, I guess it's a fun city, but it's like New York, it's very left wing and it's no surprise that it's also the most radicalized because there's this left musculim Islamist alliance. 00:56:56 Speaker 3: And then you know what they do is they react to the Bondai Beach shooting with like anti hate speech laws. I mean, the leftist reaction to terror is. 00:57:03 Speaker 12: Just so the worst thing of any terror attack is, you know, the backlash that comes. 00:57:07 Speaker 3: After it occurred. Right. Miranda Divine, New York Post columnist, author of The Big Guy. Check her out. Thank you, Miranda, We'll have you on again. 00:57:14 Speaker 16: Soon thanks to Andrews. Thanks guys. 00:57:18 Speaker 3: Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth. Through Hillsdale College's free online courses. He studied the great works of the Classics, the principles of the American Founding, and the life changing truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him, they shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he took was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale Professor doctor Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path toward reconciliation. It's a real college course, rigorous thought, and accessible to anyone willing to learn. You can take the very same course completely free. Grow stronger in your faith, gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world. Prepare yourself for a life with courage and conviction. Visit Charlie for Hillsdale dot com to enroll today. That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. Learn Deeply, Lead boldly, Carry it Forward. We are joined in studio by Pastor Lucas Miles. He's the senior director of TPUSA Faith. 00:58:31 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Thanks for having me always good be with you guys. Yeah, so. 00:58:36 Speaker 3: Let's just start with this breaking news out of Detroit. If we could throw some of that bu roll up, that'd be great. There is an active shooter situation. I'm getting you know the details as we have. It says that no confirm casualties, arrests, suspect identity, or motive release by authorities as of the latest report. But we know that it's close to Dearborn, which is the largest Muslim population, and at least in the state of Michigan, maybe in the country, I'm not sure. And West Bloomfield is the area where the largest Jewish population lives. So we're we're guessing. Obviously, we haven't had any confirmed reports, but it certainly seems in line with that. The rise of anti Semitism is very alarming, and a lot of that is getting attached to evangelicals a lot. I mean, they're sort of something. Now that the attack has morphed into an attack on evangelicals because they're seen as being supportive of the State of Israel. I don't want to put you in too much hot water here. This is not what you prep for because we actually have things that we're doing and the make Heaven Crowded tour. But just give us your take of the. 00:59:44 Speaker 2: Landscape, right, Yeah, I mean I would argue that ultimately that this that it's starting to land on the target, and that is the elimination of this evangelical you know, really maturity in this nation. When you look look at why we were so successful twenty twenty four election, major part of that evangelicals. You look at really the foundation this nation, you know, the founding of our nation. Evangelicalism Protestants have been at the center of that. And I think that there is this concerted effort to try to dismantle that. I think that a lot of the ideas on the left, whether that be pagan constructs or Marcus Marxist Marxist constructs, that those cannot be successful unless this biblical worldview is completely removed. And so you know, and these things are tied together, right. The Evangelicals Protestants historically have aligned with the State of Israel. And view that as you know, within a spectrum you have replacement theology on one side and you have dispensation on the other side. But that's they're both within Orthodoxy, and so we can have a debate on those. What is outside of Orthodoxy Dual covenism where there's two ways to get saved, one through Christ and another through genealogy, and on the opposite side of that is anti Semitism. Both of those exists outside of Christianity. And so you know, there's a lot to unpack here, and it just feels like the attacks are just being bombarded from every direction right now and it's hard to keep up, honestly. 01:01:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a one update. The building Temple Israel was not was not in service, nothing was scheduled in that building until one thirty local time. It looks like the attack started around twelve thirty. A vehicle was deliberately driven into Temple Israel at around twelve thirty local times, sparking an active security situation. The car caught fire with visible smoke. Shots were fired afterwards. So the Jewish Federation of Detroit confirmed we are aware of an active security incident at Temple Israel. Law enforcement are responding. Our Jewish agencies are currently in precautionary lockdown. We ask community members to stay away from the area at this time. This was at five seven two five Walnut Lake Road, West Bloomfield, Michigan. Nearby Bloomfield Hills and West Bloomfield Schools placed in secure locked mode again, no confirmed casualties. We don't have any suspect identity, no mode of release, no nothing. Blake, I know you have a lot of thoughts about this. You're Catholic. We have a lot of Catholics at Turning Point. We have a lot of Protestants at Turning Point. You know you are interesting in this way because you acknowledge that as a Catholic that a lot of America's founding ethos, ideology, our founding documents came from a Protestant tradition. Like I guess, make it make sense combine the two. You know, America kind of is a Protestant nation. This has been the bedrock of our country, are founding a lot of our strength. But we love Catholics too, So I mean, I want I want your perspective on this. 01:02:41 Speaker 12: I mean, it's definitely I think you know, Catholics. 01:02:45 Speaker 14: Aren't as. 01:02:49 Speaker 12: They don't have the same his kind of connection that evangelicals often do with Israel, you know, with Israel, with Judaism, you know, the idea of like, for example, Messianic Judaism is not really a thing that has currency in Catholicism. The general idea of Catholicism is like the Church is is sort of the fulfillment of the Old Testament. So the desire of the church is everyone would join the church, because that's what. 01:03:13 Speaker 3: There's a Catholic prayer historically at Easter or something. 01:03:17 Speaker 14: No, I believe there still is. 01:03:19 Speaker 3: I didn't know if that ended after that. 01:03:20 Speaker 12: They I think there they may have changed the wording of it because people disliked it, but but it was a prayer, prayer for there's still there is still a prayer for the Jewish people. 01:03:31 Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe maybe what it is. 01:03:32 Speaker 12: I think there's a prayer for the Jewish people and it doesn't explicitly say like they should convert anymore. 01:03:38 Speaker 14: I'd have to see that the text history. But it is during the Easter vigil. 01:03:42 Speaker 3: I mean, well, I pray the same No, I want them, I want you used to meet Jesus. But but this, this whole this I think this underlying attack against the Protestant bedrock of the country, which has been a bulwark of freedom. It's been a bulwark of conservatism. I mean, what is the eighty twenty vote for Trump or something like that. It is under siege. And so I mean, maybe tie that into what we're doing with Make Kevin Crowded. 01:04:05 Speaker 2: Well, well, look, I mean you have there's a lot of groups. It's like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And I think you're seeing that with islamisis Marxists. You're seeing this with you know, those that would be in kind of this this neo Nazi, you know, groper kind of thing that's happening. And I think that they're finding some degree of commonality though they're completely opposing views themselves, is that they have this sort of uniform position, you know, against Israel, and that's become you know, just this this this unifying you know factor in many ways, and so it's it's frightening. What we need for a solution for this. We need ideological change on an individual level. And that's really what we're doing at Make Kevin Crowded. It's it's really about you know, going around the nation taking that spear. Something happened at Charlie's Memorial. I mean, you cannot get away from that. And there was a spiritual DNA shift in this nation that took place, and we saw that it was tangible in the room. 01:05:00 Speaker 3: It was tangible. It was tangible. 01:05:02 Speaker 2: After that church's exploded my own church three x after Charlie's Memorial the next week, three times, three times. 01:05:08 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:05:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we've sustained the vast majority of that of that growth. And so and we're seeing that we work with eleven thousand churches now at t posa faith across a wide array of. 01:05:18 Speaker 3: Actually twelve thousand. I checked with the two did it hit twelve thousand? Okay, all right, all right, well yeah, not that throw under the bus here. 01:05:26 Speaker 2: It's growing faster than we can count it, right, So that was a last week number that I had, and it's been so exciting to see this development. And you know, these are that and you know understand that number of twelve thousand. We were at about forty six hundred on September tenth, and so we have we have almost three x the network of churches that we work with, and we have pastors that are calling us and saying look, I was always aligned with you guys ideologically, but I just never was really willing to wait in these waters. I never was willing to get the fight. I was, you know, I was afraid of losing you know, my people, or losing you know, tithes or whatever. And just like I know what's at sake now, I know what time it is. I got to get in the fight. So this Makekevin Croditude. We're going to thirty cities across the country this year. Our next one coming up is in Pennsylvania at Freedom Life Church, I believe, on April eighth, and then we have our one of our biggest ones this year is going to be at Prestonwood Baptist and that is on April twenty ninth. We're expecting over ten thousand people with this one. It is going to be a massive, massive event. Eric is going to be there, Pastor Jack Graham, myself, We've got Ali, Bethstucky, and a couple other surprise guests. 01:06:33 Speaker 3: We're still lining up. I mean, listen to some of these cities that we're hitting with the Make Heaven Crowded Tour. And you've already done Harvest Church. You've already done Awaken Church in San Diego. You've done World Outreach Church in Nashville. But now we're going to Philadelphia, Virginia Beach, Dallas, Portland, Rapid City, South Dakota. There you go, Blake, Little Dakota, Love Billings, Montana, Crown Point, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Seattle, Washington. All Right, Pursuit Church, Great In Kirkland, Anchorage, Alaska, Paso, Texas, Charlotte, North Carolina, Las Vegas, Nevada, Austin, Texas, Woodland Park, Colorado, Phoenix, Arizona. Oh, okay, that's that's for amphith Amphasis. I love that. And then you even got TBD Hawaii's in the works. 01:07:14 Speaker 2: We got an eight thousand person church in Honolulu that we're working on dates for right now. 01:07:17 Speaker 3: That's amazing, I mean incredible. The vision here was to take some of the that that revival spirit that we all experienced at the memorial and take it on the road, right. 01:07:28 Speaker 2: Yes, and so these are these are very much focused on your relationship with Jesus. We're encouraging the audience when they sign up, and you know, when you can register. It's a free event. There's no there's no tithe collected. It's a totally free event when you show up there, and but we're encouraging the attendees to bring a friend. This is where you grab your neighbor that said, hey, you know what, I was impacted by this, but I'm still exploring some stuff about my faith. Or maybe it was coming out to church with you a couple of times. Bring them out for this and we are seeing. You know, our first stop, we had fifty five hundred people who came and we had over three hundred people give their life to the Lord. 01:07:59 Speaker 3: Who was incredible. Whoa Yeah, three hundred people gave their life to the Lord. That's so encouraging. I've become so convinced some of the darkness that we've seen, and I know a lot of you and the audience have seen it, become very concerned about it. And the shooting is the latest incident of it. But it's because I believe the outpouring of life and love and goodness of the Holy Spirit that was unleashed at Charlie's Memorial makes the enemy really really uncomfortable, and so keep the faith. I believe that what God is unleashed, man cannot stop, nor can the darkness. All right, quick update on the situation in West Bloomfield. Go ahead and put up that some of that b roll, guys, I want people to get a sense of this building structure. But here's the main point as we know it now. The sheriff there is saying that the security guard at the temple saw the gunman and engaged him at the temple. They are They say that no one is confirmed to be hurt. That's a preliminary report. So grain assault, grain AsSalt, grain of salt. But right now they said, no one confirmed to be hurt at this time. But it's too early to connect this to terrorism, says the sheriff. So the suspect is not in custody, so they're right now looking to see if there's more than one suspect. They're telling people within a mile they should shelter in place. Everyone has been moved out of the school. This is an update from the sheriff there in West Bloomfield. Go ahead. 01:09:30 Speaker 12: It's just a frightening thing we've got. It's churches, religious houses of all denominations have become i don't want to say popular, but pretty frequent targets of just ask well, you know, people they've become Yeah, so you have protests that intrude into them, you have shooters, you have targeting of various kinds, and we're going to see I think synagogues become more popular targets because of this Iran conflict. We've seen churches and religious schools be hit often multiple times with this transgenderism nexus. And I just I worry about the state of the country because a lot of people are marinating and really extreme ideas, and there's this increasing idea that someone's ideas or someone's beliefs make them a legitimate. 01:10:22 Speaker 14: Target for violence. 01:10:23 Speaker 12: That's ultimately what happened with Charlie that people reject debate, they reject normal engagement, and instead they see every problem as something that they can somehow solve by picking up a rifle. 01:10:34 Speaker 2: I went to East Africa the first time in two thousand and eight, and every church I went to and preach there it had, you know, guys with arm you know, armed guys AK forty seven out in front of the church. And it was so foreign to me. And now, like going to a church that doesn't have a security team, I could be like, what are you guys doing? Like this is you have to understand where we're at right now, like and it's it's it's terrible that we even have to think like this, but this is this is the world that we live in. And I think as long as this stuff is allowed to you know, continue, and and this type of ideology, you know, pushes on you know, you know, houses of worship have to have to think about security like top priority. 01:11:07 Speaker 12: And it's such a frustrating sign of decline. Because America's always had a large number of denominations. The original reason a lot of people know that we had the First Amendment is because we had so many different just Protestant churches, Replicans and eventually Methodists and so on. And then of course we've had a large number of Catholics since the mid nineteenth century. We've had a large number of Jews since about the same time. And for the most part, you know, we were able to live in peace. 01:11:35 Speaker 14: And that was one of the great blessings of America. 01:11:37 Speaker 12: Because a lot of countries with religious divisions it has ended extremely badly. Northern Ireland, Poland of course, and Russia, you could say, and you just. 01:11:50 Speaker 3: Have what we're looking at now is more like North and South Sudan or Nigeria. You know where you're getting where you're getting a Muslim on jew violence, or Muslim on Christian violence, or just tensions raised in general. 01:12:04 Speaker 12: And we should be frank, there's Christian on Jewish violence. And this is one of the things Charlie was most worried about that he saw. 01:12:10 Speaker 14: This germ spreading on the right. 01:12:12 Speaker 12: People who spend too much time online, too much time in early toxic formulas where they blame, they decide to blame the Jews for their problems. 01:12:21 Speaker 3: Well, throw up two nine. This is a tweet from Charlie. It says Jew hate has no place in civil society. It rots the brain rejected. 01:12:29 Speaker 2: I would add it has no place in Christianity either. If you call yourself again, we can debate about eschatology, that's fine. But if you are, you know, calling yourself a Christian and you're saying Christ is king, and then you are, you know, promoting some sort of hatred towards a people because of their ethnicity, that isn't Christianity any longer. 01:12:47 Speaker 3: Or the religion. And and I would just say, you know, Charlie was very adamant about this, by the way, that Jew hate was a brain rot and he said it over and over and over again, and we must reject it. Our savior was a Jewish man, it's a rabbi. So I don't know, you know, at some point, yeah, you could debate about replacement theology, you could whatever dispensation was. Our Savior was a. 01:13:14 Speaker 2: You know, we had we had a I won't I won't overly quote it because I probably can't do that right now. But you know, there was a there was a big story this week about a particular pastor who was saying that, you know, he didn't it didn't really matter to him what Jesus, you know, what his background was. And it's like, if Jesus wasn't a Jewish Messiah, then he didn't fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament, then he wasn't actually you know, the Christ, you know. And so it's like this is intrinsic to our faith, Like it's not something that we can just do away with. Again, we can debate the eschatology and the role of Israel in the future events of the coming of Christ, but to to try to like you know, erase the past and do this his you know, revisionist history thing on on even Jesus' own life. 01:13:55 Speaker 3: Jesus could not have. 01:13:56 Speaker 12: Just been helicoptered into you know, ancient Scotland or in China, and if he preaches saying message, it would not have made sense. So you think it only made sense within the world of you know, Judaism. 01:14:08 Speaker 3: Yes, you think about you know, I was just thinking about verse where Jesus looked at Jerusalem and he wept and he cared about the the the people in Israel. 01:14:21 Speaker 2: Paul was willing to change to trade his salvation to save his own brothers and sisters love the Jewish people at the point the. 01:14:27 Speaker 3: Amount of caring and heart and love. Now, Jesus had his own issues with the ruling class, the Pharisees. Obviously we're I'm not suggesting you can't have political differences. I'm not suggesting you can't be against the war. I mean, Blake and I have been pretty pretty honest and open about the fact that this is a heck of a climb and it's a big challenge, and Charlie would have probably been against it. But you know, we have to pray for peace and we all need Jesus, and I think like when you have conversations like this. When you see stuff that's going on in West Bloomfield, you just think, Lord, have mercy on America. Pray for peace, and we need Jesus. Which is why what you're doing and the team at t POSA Faith is doing on the Make Heaven Crowded Tour, I think is more important than ever. 01:15:12 Speaker 2: It's easy to look online and get really discouraged when you see, you know, just all the conflict and the hate and all the news stories and everything else happening. But when I'm telling you boots on the ground going to churches around this country, we are seeing still massive you know, awakening taking place, and in some places, I would even say on the verge of what I would call revival happening. And so this Make Heaven Crowded Tour, if you guys haven't heard one nearby you yet, we're gonna be going in city. We're actually pushing these into twenty twenty seven. We're going to be going around. This is not stopping. Make Heaven Crowded Tour dot com. Find a city near you, or use a chance to take a vacation and go see us in another city. 01:15:48 Speaker 12: Let's someone only emphasize that point because I encounter people who identify as Christian, who say they're Christian and it. 01:15:54 Speaker 14: Exists online for them. 01:15:56 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's just an identification they take from the very beigin in the New Testament, believers gather together. If you are not gathering together with other believers, you are not a believer. If you know, unless you're in prison, you know impossible. If it is possible to gather with believers and you are not among them, you are not a believe. 01:16:13 Speaker 2: You're certainly not a disciple. Right, you have to go. 01:16:18 Speaker 3: This is what This is what launched tposa faith in the beginning, because Charlie hated that the church had stopped gathering during COVID and was you know, he said, it was like, you know, going to church online is like watching a fire on a screen. You know, it's all the light without the warmth. And that is literally what birth TPOSA faith. So gather together, go to one of these tour stops. Be a part of the community of believers, the fellow. 01:16:40 Speaker 2: Ring, a friends, the couple is. To make it crowded, make Heaven crowded. 01:16:44 Speaker 3: Tour dot com 01:16:49 Speaker 15: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com