Charlie's Warning: The Christians Who Aren't Speaking Out Against Abortion

00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter. Go start aturning point, you say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 2: Well, with no further ado, We'll have an opportunity now to introduce our special guest speaker who I would characterize as a forerunner. 00:01:19 Speaker 1: In the gen Z and millennial nation. 00:01:24 Speaker 2: He is an adroit political analyst. He is a very effective, i would say conservative media commentator as well as a very effective political activist. He's on the inside of the Trump administration. He's got Trump's ear. 00:01:42 Speaker 1: He is a. 00:01:42 Speaker 3: Confounder of College Millennial Snowflakes. He's the founder of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action. A real friend of the little babies and of preborn and so would you join me in welcoming our speaker tonight, one and only Charlie Kirk. 00:02:03 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Great to see you, and oh jeez, thank you for having me and Dan. You're doing an amazing job. As always, this has been a very eventful couple months. 00:02:14 Speaker 4: You know. 00:02:14 Speaker 1: It's funny. After the election, a lot of people just kind of have been taken it easy. And I don't do that very well. I don't rest very well. So we have been more busy than ever. I did one hundred hours of campus debates this last semester alone, and you've probably seen the videos and seen the impact and the billions and billions of yews. I'm going to get back to that in a second, and I'm learning how to say no. I'm getting better at it because I want to speak every at all times. But this as soon as Dan asked me, I said, Dan, absolutely, anytime, any place for preborn. And it's funny. I was originally going to speak at the gathering. I think it was like January eighteenth, right, and so it's a funny story. Dan invited me to go speak at the deal. I think it's in Naples and Jane eighteenth. He's like, hey, Charlie, we'd love to have you lock you in. I'm like, look, if we win the election, I'm gonna be probably pretty busy on January eighteenth. Turns out I was right, and so I'm glad I didn't commit and have to decommit. But I said Dan, I'll make it up to preborn, and so this is my making it up for preborn after I was too busy to go to the one back in Naples, but for a good reason. Though, so so much to talk about here. I can't wait to hear your questions. But I'm uniquely positioned to be able to tell you about the cultural, philosophical, and religious landscape of where the pro life movement is what Preborn is doing is so important to intercept people that think that they want to terminate their child. But if we're honest about ending abortion in America, of course there's a political dynamic, but it's about getting the country to be pro life in their own personal capacity, to make sure that our churches are actually pro life, which I'm going to talk about. And how is it that we have lost in America this stance and this premise of life. And let's just first acknowledge the importance of all of us being here tonight. It should not be lost on anyone here that if you don't believe in God, there is no chance you would be spending your Saturday night paying money to go save babies. The secularists don't do this. If you don't believe in God, there's no way you would donate the money that you're donating to go save a baby. You would never meet, that you would never come in contact with, because they don't believe their image bearers. You see, the downfall of the belief of God in the West is directly correlated. It's a one to one correlation with the rise of pagan child sacrifice, child butchery, whatever phrase you want to use. It's as we have become more secular, it's harder and harder for us to make the pro life case. And I saw this on great display. Did some of you guys see my mostly peaceful debate at Cambridge? Maybe maybe not, Thank you if you haven't watched it. It's fine. It was a total ambush and I loved every minute of it. It was I don't think tonight will be as hard as that. So I show up to Cambridge and the way they present it, they're so deceitful. They're so smug, and they think they're so smart, and they're like, hey, we're just gonna have you at our Cambridge Union, you know, a little question and answer. As soon as I showed up, I'm like, oh, this is a total ambush. I was like, five minutes beforehand, four hundred students against me is one versus four hundred, and again, these are not dummies, right, but they have no wisdom. That's a very important distinction. They have brain power, they could do mathematic formula, as they could recite facts, but there's no wisdom. And wisdom is the understanding of things that never change. And where does wisdom come from? The fear of the Lord. And if you do not fear God, you have no wisdom. So I go into Cambridge of all these brainiacs who know a bunch of facts, but they believe men can give birth. I go into Cambridge and these people that think they're so smart, they say, it's just a clump of cells terminated, eliminate it, get rid of it. What's the big deal. And I'm looking back at the footage and kind of recapping my time there. And then they went to Oxford, same thing the next day. In Oxford. They were a little bit more polite at Oxford than in Cambridge, just a little bit. And I recognize these are the top institutions of the West, where Isaac Newton himself was educated, where they split the atom, where even though they have all of the sophistication imaginable, their IQs are higher than most people ever meet, but they're lacking the most fundamental thing that is just destroying the West from within a suicidal impulse, which is that they don't believe there is a God, and they believe that they are God, if there was to be a God, and those two things are just gnawing at the basis of the West. So I look at the landscape of how are we going to save more babies? Because, make no mistake your support of preborn Jesus cares and will care when we meet him what you did to save babies. Jesus cares what you are doing, whether or not to save those lives that cannot defend themselves. And it's so when you die deeper into the examination of the pro abortion psychology. And again, I'm very uniquely positioned because not only do I hear every argument imaginable. I challenge you to find anyone who's done one hundred hours of debates on these topics in one semester, so that is about I've done about two hundred and fifty hours, so literally days of these debates on these topics, and just the last calendar three total semesters, right, and it almost always comes down to this, well, but I matter more than somebody else. What do you mean, who cares if it's another human life? Because I can't even get them to acknowledge the species of the life, that it's uniquely made, it's not their DNA. But then all of a sudden we head up to a moral stopping point, a critical one. They say, well, but I'm in charge, and my sovereignty matters more than somebody else, so of course I should be able to eliminate it. And we have this idea that bodily autonomy matters more than the will of God because they don't acknowledge God. And when I dived, the most shocking and depressing thing that I then hear from them is the callous, cold nature of their opinion of the discarding of human life. Now I have some very very good heuristics to be able to get them to think about this stuff. I have a new one that I just can't wait to use in the fall. It came to me when I was going on one of my late night walks, which is like, Okay, let's find out. Let's pretend I got to share it with you. Guys are gonna love this, and you guys can use it to all your pro abortion events if they're liberal. It only works that they're liberal. Okay, So let's pretend I have a genetics test and I could tell in utero everything about my baby. The baby. I could tell the baby is going to be gay. Am I allowed to abort my baby if I find out it's gay? And I don't want a gay baby. I just can't wait. I can't wait to hear their answer, right, I just can't wait. It's gonna be I just like thought, that was one of the greatest ones I've ever come up with. Right, It's like, no, oh, so we're pro life now for the gay ladies, got it. That's wonderful. I can't wait to use one this that way, that's semesterized, Like I, why didn't I have that at Cambridge so I could spend all night or the twelve minutes I had before Q and A bashing on these colleges. But let's be honest, there's something deeper that's happening here, and it's time for some introspection in our own community as to why this is happening. I was meeting with Dan. It doesn't Dan do a great job, by the way, what an amazing warrior and fighter. No, No, he's great, and he is a true warrior with humility that is so hard to find, always acknowledging God, always understanding that we are here for His purposes and his wishes. And so I was saying this is Dan earlier, which is Look, it's easy to say, well, you know, President Trump is not as pro life as I would like him. And look, I'm one hundred percent pro life. I go to these college campuses and I'm the guy that says no exceptions to abortion, and I still come manned audiences of four thousand students because they're so interested in a topic they've never heard. And yet I am willing to give President Trump and Jadvance the whole administration grace that other people will not. You know why, because I am not going to hold a president or a politician to a higher standard than my local pastor when it comes to abortion. And why is it that we've allowed our pastors to remain silent on this issue and our churches to remain silent on this issue, But we're very critical of our politicians, which matter more actually, because the politicians are just reading a script that has provided to them by voters. 00:10:41 Speaker 5: We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries, and today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called Culture in Christianity, The Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes it unique is Pastor Allan's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, and doge Trump in the White House issues in the church. He doesn't just discuss the problems in every episode, he gives practical things we can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies. They've been great friends and now you can hear from Charlie and his own words. 00:11:14 Speaker 1: Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact our world today. The Culture in Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging. You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes. Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry at Alan Jackson dot com. Forward slash Charlie, I want to ask you a hypothetical. If President Donald Trump announced tomorrow that he's taking away everybody's guns, what would happen? Everyone would march on the I mean it would you know what would not be? It would be pretty self evident. And yet President Donald Trump reverses Roe versus Way. What happens. Basically, no gratitude, silence American church. Vast majority churches didn't even say thank you. Most churches. Actually, we did a study a TPUSA our faith arm. They gave apologizing sermons. And I'm sure you know about this. You know we're a pro life church. But I know this might make you uncomfortable, and you know, we just want to make sure that everyone here is heard and healed and blah blah blah blah blah. That should have been the greatest day of rejoicing and fasting. We as a church should have been fasting for a week saying thank you God for giving us the reversal of Roe versus way. So it's tempting to say, hey, President Trump is not as pro life because I get it, and I get it. I can sympathize with that. I think you also must give him credit for all the amazing stuff he's doing. But fine, got it. Respect, But are you also going to your local pastor or the big megachurch and calling out that heretic for not being pro life or are you only disagreeable from afar but you're not disagreeable up close and personal. You know, the vast majority of pastors in this country will ever ever speak out about the crisis of abortion ever, And we wonder why there is this kind of moral and cultural decay and downfall, because the only way we win the fight for life, the only way we win, is if the American church rises up. It's not going to be reason, it's not going to be secularists. Instead, it's going to be the very promise of the Bible. Because it comes down to the very fundamental question. When I go on the college campus and the girl kind of shrugs her shoulders and she says, well, I don't really care, you know, if that, you know, baby or whatever. Eventually I can get them to say the word baby, which you knows, you know, they do everything they can not to use the word baby. Right. Dehumanizing language is the staple of a pro abortion individual. It's a fetus, it's a clump of cells, it's a parasite, it's an invader. As soon as they use humanizing language, all of a sudden, that must invite then human morality. But of course it is a human being. However, even if I can get them to acknowledge it, they don't believe that human beings an image bearer. They think it's an accident. They think it's an accident of millions of years. Of the divide in the West is those of us that believe that our existence is a miracle, that you are designed with intentionality, with purpose, with a soul, and we believe everything that we do matters up against a whole other cohort in this country. And it says, oh, it's just a roll of the dice, it's an inconvenience. Do you know how often I hear the argument when I speak to these students and they say, well, the baby will be better off aboarded because what we bore into a poor family. We have not moved past eugenics. This is mass Malthusian population control that we like to think as if our society is so advanced and so elevated and so educated, but be very careful at the tyranny of hyper educated, non religious elites. The tyranny of hyper educated, non religious elites is a cancer to Western society. And so we're in the middle of a struggle for what is called Western civilization. But do you know a better term of what Western civilization really is That nobody wants to say Christendom Christendom. No one wants to call it out loud because they think it's too Christian national. It's Christendom. This Nations was started as a Christian project. When the Pilgrims came here from the Mayflower, they specifically said they were going to come here to spread the Gospel and to turn this continent into a Christian con Honestly, they did a phenomenal job. This is the best place for Christianity on the planet and has been. It has been the number one funder of the Gospel around the world. It has been the place of Billy Graham and the biggest churches and the biggest messages. But in the last twenty years we have decided to indulge thirty years in a very tempting yet failed model, and finally we're starting to reckon with the problem. The model is very simple. It's that, hey, we want to get the biggest church possible, we want to get the biggest building possible, and we want to get people in and we can't offend them. So we're not going to talk about any of the parts of the Bible that might be hard or difficult. We're just going to do John three to sixteen every single week. But think about it, if you don't present Jesus Christ as a savior, so they'll use the word savior. But if you don't talk about sin, why do you need a savior. If you don't talk about sin, what are you getting saved from? If you're not talking about that, you're being suffocated by your own original sin. Then why would you need to be redeemed? Because you're awesome the way you are. He gets you. He's amazing. You're amazing Jesus when you're watching poor and He's like, yeah, keep doing it. He gets you. He affirms your sin. We went from an affirm mate which to an affirmational model, when instead we need a hot gospel that says, almost every hour of the day, you are sinn you have original sin, and only by the grace of God that you did not earn, that you do not deserve, is this free gift of salvation that can redeem you. And only through there you get the promise of heaven via Jesus Christ. That is the hot gospel. But it requires confronting a culture and not conforming via this social gospel that we have seen over the last thirty years. You want to know why the church has become less pro life because it doesn't preach the Gospel like it used to. It doesn't preach the entirety of the Word of God. Some pastors I meet can't even spell Leviticus, let alone do they teach out of it. The Founding Fathers not only do they like Leviticus, they put Leviticus on the Liberty Bill, proclaim liberty throughout the land of which you are in. It's the entirety of the Word of God that is necessary for us to be able to have a healthy and robust church. And the problem is the modern church. They say, but we want more converts, we want more converts, we want more converts. And I go back to the scripture to say, well, Jesus said to create disciples of all nations. Conversion is the first step towards discipleship. But if you are just doing popcorn and ice cream spiritually every single Sunday, people are going to leave because they want to go deeper. They don't just want to have the superficial. They want to go deep into the details of the promises of what it means to be a Christian and the struggles and then finally the other struggle. The other issue that we have is worldview. I finally had this breakthrough like two years ago, which is we as Christians have been led to believe there's something called a neutral public square and number two, that people can look at things through just fairly and equally in a kind of unbiased way. Every single person you meet, every child, every pastor, a politician, every school board member, every CEO looks the way through the world through a predetermined prism or a worldview. The question is whose do you want to win? And we as Christians have kind of been like, oh, we don't care come to my church, but I'm not going to go equip you a biblical worldview because I don't want to offend you, and said, what a pastor should be doing is every day installing a biblical worldview. When you read the news and you listen to the radio, and you watch the TV, you distill everything and you process it through a biblical worldview. Does that glorify God? Or does that make us further away from God? Is that in God's commands? Is that in God's law or not? And this is the tragedy of it, is that a pastor thinks that is being political. It's being biblical, not political. It is not political to go through the entirety of the scriptures. And what I find is that so often students, professors, whoever, I'll debate anybody, they come up to the microphone and they'll say, well, I just want everyone to live and let live. I want everyone to kind of live as if they want to live. I say, by what moral standard do you think that's right? They say, well, it's just the kind of way I feel. But you're appealing to something when you say that, why is that better than the Quran? Why is that better than the Bible? And we as Christians have kind of retreated into our own corner, being like, well, I don't want to I don't want to promote the Bible too heavily because it might be, you know, it might be off putting. And if we want to win people for Jesus, we can't. We can't earn people off. And what we're seeing is the opposite, the churches that are weak and woke and that are afraid to talk about the entirety of scripture scriptures, they're turning their churches over to hotel developers, pastors that actually go into the toughest issues of the day, people are flocking to them by the thousands, by the thousands. Right now. Maybe many of you people maybe know young men right now are gravitating to the Catholic Church in record numbers. By the way, better the Catholic Church than to mosques? Okay? And serious? Why And by the way, as an Evangelical and as a Protestant, I think this is very interesting. And most Protestants have no idea why this is happening. They say, why is it that I'm losing my young men to Catholic churches? And I look down and I say, well, the skinny jeans are a good place to start. They want a pastor where they don't think they can beat you up. Number two, what's with all the smoke screen and the dancing and the screens. Is this a rock concert or is this church? They don't want to just go to a home depot with a bunch of you know, Ted talks. They want to go somewhere holy. They want to go to somewhere that doesn't change. They want to go somewhere that tells them the truth, that is uncompromising in a culture that's not going to be like a Circosole Act every single Sunday. You can say whatever you want about the Catholic Church, and I have huge disagreements with them, fundamental theological disagreements, but they've lasted a long time. And when you go into a Catholic church, they're not dancing around like is it some Vegas act. And they're certainly for a young man who says, everything in my life is changing, everything, my friends are changing their gender, the whole world is just falling apart. But when I enter into a Catholic church, at least there's some constancy, and there is some there is some order, and we as Protestants and Evangelicals could learn a lot from that trend. 00:21:51 Speaker 5: Right now, we're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries, and today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called Cure in Christianity, the Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes it unique is Pastor Allan's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today, gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump, and the White House issues in the church. He doesn't just discuss the problems in every episode, he gives practical things we can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies. They've been great friends and now you can hear from Charlie and. 00:22:27 Speaker 1: His own words. Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact our world today. The Culture in Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging. You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes. Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry at Alan Jackson dot com. Forward slash Charlie and do you know what else the Catholic Church's like. Yep, abortion is murdered, it's dogma. We don't compromise from that. Marriage with no man and woman. We don't compromise from that. If you don't like it, then get out. And yet they're the ones that are actually experiencing the growth curve because you know why young people right now want crisply delivered truths, not watered down half truths, because they're afraid that one person in the back of the room might send an angry email. Every pastor should go up on a pulpit and say, Lord, help me, help me, Please preach this church down to a manageable size. That should be your goal. And if it grows, then it's not you, it's him. Because the intent should be I should be saying things that are so offensive to the world, that the demons scatter and that the culture wants nothing to do with it. But running out of time, I could talk endlessly. Nothing is more important than the fight for life. But understand that it is Christians and Christians only that will win this battle. Jesus must be the center of it all. It's not secularists, it's not the Buddhists, it's not the Hindus. And I do want to leave you with a very hopeful thing, and then we'll do some questions. The pro life movement in Europe does not exist. It literally does not exist. We are like the last pro life cohort on the planet that actually talks about these things and that is trying to get people to save there. But the rest of the world, the Muslim world is its own thing just but the rest of the basically developed world has no issue with just eliminating babies. We're like the last gasp that has the kind of moral courage. And I get in a lot of trouble when I say this, but I believe that there are a lot of parallels towards the abolition of slavery and the abolition of abortion. People say, how dare you compare the two? I'm sorry, they're both evil and one resulted in murder. One is doesn't even allow you to live. And I believe if we look at the long March got us towards the abolitionist slavery, we can learn a lot from Wilberforce. We can learn a lot from Frederick Douglas, which is we do not compromise, We stay prayerful. We're always constantly trying to impact culture and make politics more in the form what God and Jesus would want. And that's why I love what Preborn is doing every single day, and I encourage you guys to continue to support it generously. 00:25:20 Speaker 6: Let's do some questions, right, Dan, Amen, Let's get the mics throughout the room, and if you have a question for Charlie, just to raise your hand, little super can stump and we got to be better than a bunch of college kids, right. 00:25:34 Speaker 7: Who first, the Catholics are the Protestants? 00:25:38 Speaker 1: Well, the Catholics for sure, me Protestants can go. Do you want a mic? I'm not so are we debating or we? Yeah? Okay, No, I mean no, Catholics predated Protestantism for sure. 00:25:53 Speaker 7: And don't you think that Protestants want a little bit more liberal than the Catholics? 00:25:57 Speaker 1: Catholic? Oh yeah, okay, r Do I think that Protestants were more liberal than Catholics? No, not necessarily they wanted to get divorced. Okay, yeah, so it depends how you mean. I'm sorry what he. 00:26:11 Speaker 7: Henry the Eighth was the one that started. 00:26:13 Speaker 1: Protestant No, that's not correct, that's not true. Martin Luther actually started Protestantism. So Martin Luther was the that's so do you know do you know the ninety five THECES? 00:26:25 Speaker 4: I know? 00:26:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're talking about the specifically England. You're right, So Henry the Eighth was the English schism away towards the Church of England. But Martin Luther started Protestantism with the ninety five THECES. Do you know what the selling of indulgences is no because of Catholic right, So the Catholic first and right, So let's not be too combative here, right. So well it's okay. So the selling of indulgences was the Catholic Church selling salvation for money, right. So Martin Luther found that to be objectionable. Remember Martin Luther was a Catholic priest. Martin Luther said, we should not be selling people's souls for money. So he nailed the ninety five feces to the door and started the Protestant Reformation, of which led towards Protestant Christianity as we know it. 00:27:10 Speaker 7: And Jay Sarah, who is a big, huge Catholic, came down to the West and if you see, you know, Santa Barbara all the way down, you see missions, they're the ones. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: Who again I acknowledge it. 00:27:24 Speaker 4: Right. 00:27:24 Speaker 1: So do you do you think Mary was do you think do you think Mary was sinless? 00:27:29 Speaker 7: Do I think Mary was sinless? 00:27:32 Speaker 4: I mean that's what I was taught. 00:27:33 Speaker 1: Do you think that we're I don't know. Do you think Mary ascended into heaven? 00:27:37 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:27:38 Speaker 1: Okay, where's your evidence for that? Where's the evidence going to? 00:27:43 Speaker 4: There's a God. 00:27:45 Speaker 1: Around us the Bible, I mean, right, So there's no scriptural evidence for Mary being sinless. In fact, says the opposite in Romans three, that all falls short of the glory of God, and only Christ, Jesus is able to redeem us. So according to dogma the Catholic Church, they believe Marius less. They believe Mary assumed into heaven like Elijah Enoch and Elijah Enoch and Jesus. So I just ask you, like, why do you believe that. I just think that. 00:28:10 Speaker 7: Another Mary, I pray to her and that things have happened from me. 00:28:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, so it also says in the scriptures and one Timothy, right, So in the scriptures it's fine. In the scriptures said only Jesus Christ is our mediary to God. Right, So you don't need a mediary of Mary. You don't need the mediary of you know, Saint Paul. So why do you pray to someone that is in Jesus. 00:28:31 Speaker 7: I believe in the Catholic Church. 00:28:33 Speaker 1: It was a first bingo. So I believe in scripture and you believe in an institution, and we just that's our difference. That's good. Okay, nice question, thank you, next question, but no, just to recap. Though, the Catholic Church teaches Mary was sinless like Jesus and also that she assumed into Heaven, both of which are no. That's correct. Sinless called the Immaculate Conception, which was done eighteen fifty four, I think by Pope Leo the twelfth. It was gone an ex cathedral dogma into the Catholic Church. Catholics teach that Mary was sinless like Christ, which I find of being outrageous teaching for anyone that has read the scriptures. Yes, so you. 00:29:14 Speaker 8: Say, you know you always stay come in front of the line if you disagree. I was waiting for the line. 00:29:18 Speaker 1: So I disagree with. 00:29:19 Speaker 8: You starting to say no, because I just moved to Florida from Canada and French. Canada is extremely atheist, extremely pro abortion. I've had tons of patients and friends almost proud of their abortion. You went to England, you say Europe is gone? What about Canada? Why are you coming to the University of to make me well? Because I was willing to do it for you. But you're super talented, and just like my NHL career never happened. 00:29:58 Speaker 1: I don't think that I love either. 00:30:01 Speaker 8: So when are you coming to Canada. 00:30:03 Speaker 1: I'm I don't know if I'm allowed in Canada, but here you kick me out. So when I went to England, I tried my best to get arrested and I failed. So look, I'm very very despite my visit to UK and Cambridge and Oxford. I'm very America focused to what I'm doing. But look, Canada has some major problems. You know, the biggest problem. This is actually a very interesting point. First of all, Canada has a non religious problem because they're not They're nowhere near as religious as America. Canada is only the population of California. Understand it's a major land mass with only the population of California. In about twenty five years ago, California Canadian conservatives said that the abortion issue is too controversial and we want to just be indecipherable from the liberals on abortion. That's a lot of people in the Republican Party are going to try to do the same thing everybody. And what happened to California conservatives It made them weak. I'm Canadian. Sorry, Canadian conservatives, it made them weaker. In the process, we do not compromise on the most important issue, which is the issue of life. Period, end up story, and I mean, look, you look at what's happened this last election. It's just a tragedy. And again I believe that if you fail to remain a godly nation, then you will not be a free nation. And Canada is a perfect example of that. Next question, yes, sure, I. 00:31:25 Speaker 4: Think for the comments on American pastors that then you said it's big. You're right, it's been about thirty years. My question is when I have debates with family members who maybe aren't Christians, and I proclaim my pro life views, what do you feel is the clearest way to explain specifically an a topic pregnancy kind of situation. 00:31:54 Speaker 1: Right, So a topic pregnancy would be the breaking of the uterine wall? Is that right? Dan Filopian stoops, Yeah, I will lead. Honestly, that question should go to Dan. He get answered a lot better than I would, or that I could. I believe Number one that far too many times, especially post twenty two weeks, especially post twenty two weeks, far too many women are not given the option of a cesarean section, and they're only given the option of an abortion, where the C section very well could be a medical procedure that could save potentially the baby, both the baby and the mother's life. More specifically, though, the issue that I find where a lot of the kind of fear bongerers on this issue push forward is they think abortion is a harmless, victimless procedure, and so that that is one of the more important elements here. If there is a dead baby within the womb, the extraction of a dead baby is not an abortion. That is, that is a very important thing to mention and so and also I get this on campus, they say, well, isn't a removal of assist an abortion? No, that's an ablation. I believe it's called an ablation. It's like the misinformation around it persists. But I'll let Dan answer that probably more, you know, in more depth than I could. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, an ept toopic pregnancy is a baby that would never survive and it's life threatening to the mother. So it's a it's got to be removed to the mother will die, frankly, not an abortion. 00:33:32 Speaker 1: Correct. 00:33:33 Speaker 4: Any dreams or hopes for turning point in Europe or other. 00:33:36 Speaker 1: Countries, not really. I mean we're very again, we're very very America focused right now. Again, I mean, I'll be visiting probably Europe once a year, it's so for those of Europe recently, it's so sad. I have a lot of thoughts on this, but the Muslim conquest of Europe is shocking, it is alarming. The rise of Mohammed in the West is really is really breathtaking, and so we have to save this country. And honestly, once you save America, it helps save the world, because a strong America is a strong world. Yep. 00:34:17 Speaker 9: As I introduced to myself to you earlier, I am a millennial, for better or for worse, born in California and raised in the Bay Area. So I'll admit that I cried when Chunk one in twenty sixteen. But thanks to Jesus, my god fearing husband and you, partially, I am now a Christian conservative. 00:34:36 Speaker 1: Obviously I'm europe tonight. 00:34:42 Speaker 9: All said, a majority of my friends are still very liberal talking, and some of my friends don't talk to me anymore because of my views. My question for you is, how do I poach this conversation about this specific topic in the most loving and productive way possible to where it's not where you know they're fashally me for being some type of Christian nationalist. 00:35:03 Speaker 1: It's a great question. So you have to before you even ever talk about politics. You have to establish with your friends a very simple question, is it possible that I might have different political views and you'll still view me the same? And if the answer is no, then you have to stop being I mean so that there is no friendship. Actually it's just superficial. Aristotle talked about the different levels of friendship, and real friends are people that have a transcendent third involved, meaning they're both looking at something above them that they can both understand and appreciate. That doesn't mean they have to agree with it, but they're both looking at that same thing. The nastiness of the left is one of the least reported cultural stories. That's happening of friendships and families and friends and sons and daughters, people that no longer talk to each other because of political differences. We as Christians should not seek to do that. We should be the peacemakers. We should try to find common ground and try to remedy that. But boy, I tell you I've lost family members, neighbors in just the most venomous ways imaginable, because unfortunately they will group in political identity with moral worth. They'll they'll think you're a bad person because they don't share their views. And so then just keep on asking questions and then be live the testimony through your actions. Be someone that they want to be with, they want to be friends with. And the best thing that has ever happened to us as conservatives is that the left has become so unenjoyable to be around. And now I mean that is that no one wants to spend times like they're claim they're complaining about climate change or you know, abortion, like they're they're always complaining. It's like the Democrat Party is basically weaponized infant complaining for two hours straight at dinner, and it's eventually it's just not fun. And so be somebody that people want to spend time with and be and be a testimony to the Lord in the in the proms. 00:37:00 Speaker 10: Yes, you mentioned then over the last thirty years, evangelicalism has watered down the Gospel for the sake of gaining membership. But then you also gave hope that that's perhaps changing from your platform and banners point, what hopeful changes do you see on the horizon and what do you see as coming next. 00:37:18 Speaker 1: I think that there is a new generation of young pastors that are preaching to the Bible correctly, and honestly, it's been very disappointing to watch. COVID was a very revealing moment for the American church, and we saw pastors that would shut down their entire church unnecessarily for a year and a half, two years on end, all the while they were promoting racial justice and all that complete nonsense. And so I think that the biggest hopeful thing that I have is that the rank and file and those of you that attend churches are demanding more out of your pastor, and that you're no longer just going to have your pastor sit down and roll over and do the same sort of well, you know, we're not going to get into the controversial issues here. No, we want the entire Bible to be taught in this church. And then, finally, in a digital social media era, the best ideas are going to win is the kind of happy talk pastors. If your pastor is basically indistinguishable from a self help seminar, then why would somebody come to you on Sunday morning. They have to believe that there is a spiritual component or a spiritual element to it. And so I am hopeful that this kind of teaching is the marketplace is rewarding that. And look no further, everybody, before there was weak evangelical churches. What was there before that weak mainline Protestant churches, Episcopalian, Lutheran, certain forms of Presbyterianism. They actually saw the decline in attendance before a lot of mainline evangelical What is the through line? When you start to compromise on the truth, you actually don't grow. People don't want to reward you with their ties and their offerings or their attendants or their time when you water down the truth. Got it? Thank we got it? Kever, Thank you so much. Okay, jar say one more thing really quick, please everybody. I'm a donor to preborn. I'm proud to do it. I'm thankful to do it. I come here I could be with my family. I'm doing it because anytime Dan asks me to pitch in with my time or my voice, it is so important that we have a counter two planned parenthood. By the way, if you want to stay something in prayer, say something in prayer. The next couple of days and the next week, please pray for intercession that the defunding a Planned Parented stays in the big beautiful bill. Please bring that to the Lord. Okay, keep that because that would be a major, major victory. And President Trump has greenlit it and has allowed it, and we are seeing it proceeding. But we are up against a culture of death. John ten Ten Jesus says, the enemy has come, the lies child, the story. But I have come to give life and life more abundantly. We are culture of life. We need to celebrate it, we need to fight for it. What Preborn is doing every single day, in my opinion, is the most effective, precise and measurable organization that is countering the butchery and the slaughter that Planned parentid is rought. So dig deep, donate what you can. God bless you guys, and thank you for all the prayers and support it. Thank you 00:40:23 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com