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Here I am. 00:00:46 Speaker 2: Lord, Use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Charlie Kirkshaw, a company that specializes in gold I rays and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. 00:01:17 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's election day in Arizona. It's July twenty first, twenty twenty six. I'm back here behind the Y five flag. He finally remember what studio here is? Now? Well here we are honored to be with you all. And it is an election day, especially here in Arizona. And so Tyler Boyer, mister Arizona is here to help walk us through it. We have Andy Biggs, go bigs or go home, two bigs to rig primary day. Tyler Boyer, help us make sense of this. What first of all, are the marching orders if you're within earshot, if you're in Arizona, what are the marching orders? And we'll go from there. 00:01:57 Speaker 3: Well, we gotta win by historic numbers today, and it's really important, you know. I want to just point out a lot of people have said primaries aren't everything. 00:02:06 Speaker 4: They don't tell you exactly what's going to happen. 00:02:08 Speaker 3: In general, however, I will point out it is better to win big, as big as possible, get as many votes out as possible in your primary because voting is habitual, so it's a habit. 00:02:21 Speaker 4: When you get more of your low propensity voters out to vote. 00:02:24 Speaker 2: For our primary, that's a big point. 00:02:25 Speaker 3: They're more likely to show up in a general election. And so our team has been as serious as we can be in this and obviously promoting Andy Biggs from day one. We just saw the videos of Charlie promoting Andy back in May of twenty twenty five, just months before. 00:02:44 Speaker 4: He was assassinated. We did one of the largest. 00:02:48 Speaker 3: Rallies, primary rallies that was in this country this election cycle. And Andy is on pace today to win by maybe bigger margin than any Republican has in the last forty years in a primary election. 00:03:05 Speaker 5: Charlie, Charlie was super gung ho about Andy Biggs. 00:03:08 Speaker 2: This is a very. 00:03:13 Speaker 5: Would passion project be the right term for this, like this is I'm the race we really want to win for him. 00:03:17 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, look, here's the way that we look at it. And I just again just to recap for everyone that's just just tuning in maybe for the first time, getting involved with elections for the first time. 00:03:27 Speaker 4: The Left has become really good. 00:03:30 Speaker 3: At consolidating its base and turning out base voters and convincing low propensity base voters to turn out to make up for independent votes. This is the Barack Obama way. This is how Barack Obama became president. Effectively, the right has been really bad at this and so what we oftentimes will do is will nominate kind of a milk toast candidate that nobody's really excited for and losing an election. That's basically what happened in the Romney era. How Romney lost and how Trump won is because Trump was much more inlign with the Obama style politics, getting your base together, consolidating your base, and then getting more people to turn out that are low propensity than the independence maybe voting against you well. 00:04:15 Speaker 2: And so this is the big question this primary season and then into the mid terms, is without President Trump on the ballot, can we get these people that seem to only show up when Trump's running? Can we get them out? And that's why what we're doing at turning point action is so critical, especially in the state of Arizona, New Hampshire, Nevada. Tyler, give us an update. I saw you were posting about this. Where are we at? Because this audience knows that we have been building a machine to get out the vote, chase the vote, where are we at compared to twenty twenty four. 00:04:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so you just brought up something that's really important. When Trump's on the ballot, we generally do worse, statistically worse, many points worse because low propensity vote again that I just brought up, aren't as moved because when name ida is low on a candidate, it's bad. When people don't understand what's at stake, it's bad. Presidential elections obviously turn out a lot more voters, so when you have a midterm election, you have to work extra hard to get those voters out, which means that you have to have a better ground game. You have to have fueld offices on the ground, you have to have people activated. It's ideal to have candidates on the ballot that when you can't have Trump, you got to have somebody that at least people know. 00:05:31 Speaker 4: And so this is why it's really important. 00:05:34 Speaker 3: In every state's a little bit different, but you know, we're really bullish on the red Wall. 00:05:39 Speaker 4: Strategy that we're talking about. 00:05:40 Speaker 3: Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire could undo the Democrats' stranglehold on the Blue Wall, which is Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. You could win, you know, potentially in twenty twenty eight by winning the R three Red Wall states without winning any of the Blue Wall states, which is terrifying to the Democrats. But again, this is why this election cycle has been so important twenty twenty six. You have to lay the foundation, so you have to have candidates running that people know, and the strategy is different everywhere. New Hampshire, we just brought up New Hampshire, Johnson new News running Johnson new New's a name. This new New name is a name, right, It's a little bit more moderative a name, but that's a little bit more. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: Amenable for and I love the way you say it, so some people in this audience might go, SONU New is too moderate for turning point and your motto. And this is something I remember you preaching to Charlie and Charlie repeating and all this stuff. We get the most conservative candidate that we can to win. 00:06:42 Speaker 4: With the best chance of winning exactly and that people know. 00:06:45 Speaker 3: Again because again this name id idea without Trump on the ballot is really important that you're bringing it right. You want to have the best possible name, the person that people know, the best that are willing to show up for the best, are able to tell their neighbors and friends about that person the best. And in New Hampshire that's Johnson Neuney right now, in Arizona, that's Andy Biggs. Andy Biggs, the former chairman of the Freedom Caucus, the former Senate President, has been around, has been one of the best Congressmen that this country has had for the last decade, is by wide margin, the best known. He out numbers in name id the current governor of Arizona, Katie Hopps. So you have a great opportunity when people know that person to be able to go out and share the gospel of hey, this is you got to get out and vote for this person, like, oh yeah. 00:07:38 Speaker 4: I kind of know that guy. You're going to turn out more low propencity voters that way. 00:07:41 Speaker 5: So, as you said, we do have lower turnout in midterm years. We have all these ballot chases. They're out there engaging with those lower propensity voters. What do they get reasons for why these people are not voting? Do they just say I only really feel like voting if it's a presidential year. Are they not even really aware of the elections going on Yeah, it's the story though they encounter. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, So most people assume that people are just lazy or they have some reason not to vote. It actually turns out that that's not the case. 00:08:08 Speaker 4: In most circumstances. 00:08:10 Speaker 3: Most people just forget to vote, or they don't think voting is important, or they think that you really only vote every four years. So a low propensity voter sometimes is a less educated voter. They just don't even realize what's going on. And people are busy. They have lives, they have jobs, they have families. Most of the people that we communicate with are like, oh, yeah, I'll totally vote. 00:08:31 Speaker 4: They just forgot. They just don't know. I mean, I think about this is why voting is habituals. 00:08:35 Speaker 2: I think about. 00:08:36 Speaker 5: People we ran into in twenty four where they thought they'd voted for Trump because they voted in a primary, because they'd signed a petition. I think in some cases even because they'd signed up for a rally, they thought they'd voted. 00:08:46 Speaker 4: Correct. 00:08:47 Speaker 3: People people think sometimes that just engaging watching Fox. 00:08:51 Speaker 2: News or listen to the truite taking a poll. 00:08:55 Speaker 3: We have had numerous people this election cycle that we're knocking into that we're talking to that are huge fans of the Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie Turning Point that have not voted in the last three midterm elections. 00:09:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never forget that story about the fahouse with the with the Trump shrine like in his garage that wasn't voting. 00:09:17 Speaker 4: And this happens all the time. 00:09:19 Speaker 3: But this is why I say to everyone primary elections are important because the more that you can engage people, educate them, become a habit with voting, then the more likely they are to vote and turn out in the general elections. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: All Right, I want to go through a list of all of the Turning Point Action endorsements in the state of Arizona. This is so we've got throw up that first graphic and you can see the list here. So you got Andy Biggs obviously as for governor, and you've got just you go through the list, Tyler. Yeah. 00:09:49 Speaker 3: So Alex call it In has been in the state legislature. He is one of the most pre eminent election integrity lawyers in America and that's some of the biggest wins. In fact, he is the bill drafter that got pushed to the public that's going to be on the ballot this fall to make Arizona elections almost identical in many ways to Florida's Florida right, And that's for Secretary of State, and he's ready chief election, and our lieutenant governor effectively is so no. So this year actually will be the first year that Arizona will have a lieutenant governor. Oh so that's a new law that just got passed. So Andy Biggs will effectively pick a running mate here in the coming weeks. Okay, Kimberly ye Kimberly Yee is the current treasurer. 00:10:33 Speaker 4: She's fantastic. 00:10:35 Speaker 3: You'll remember a lot of people talked about her because she was the top vote getter in twenty twenty two. 00:10:39 Speaker 4: A lot of reasons why people believe there. 00:10:41 Speaker 3: Was funny business going on in Arizona because Kimberly Kimberly Yee won a ton of precincts that Carrie Lake lost on paper. We later found out that this is a lot of election manipulation. Obviously, they were not targeting Kimberly the same way that they were targeting Carrie. But Kimberly is fantastic. She was in the Senate Education Committee under Andy Biggs while he was said at President uh and we believe that she will be the best defender of ESAs or the voucher program. Again, remember, school choice is the biggest in Arizona. It's it's the number one program in the country. A lot of states, a lot of red states, want to replicate it. But what we cannot have happen is the Democrats come in and get rid of the whole thing. 00:11:25 Speaker 4: And so she will be a big. 00:11:26 Speaker 2: Big guest run for Superintendent of Public Instructions. 00:11:29 Speaker 3: That's right, she's barnad not even close, way better than the competition. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: Doctor Ralph Heap for Corporation Commissioners. 00:11:37 Speaker 3: So doctor Ralph Heap again, if you recall Justin Heap, we got elected. Who's the Freedom Caucus member that took over for Stephen Richer as Chief Elections Officer Americopa County. 00:11:49 Speaker 4: This is his dad. 00:11:51 Speaker 3: His dad has been serving the legislature, great man. He's a surgeon. That's where the doctor comes from. So he's very smart. 00:11:59 Speaker 2: But what do you do in this role? 00:12:01 Speaker 3: He he has been serving the legislature and specifically has taken focus on water and are electric bills. So the Corporation Commission is directly responsible for overseeing Arizona Public Service APS, which runs one of the largest electric companies in the country. And so this is to keep rates low and to hold that in a conservative position. 00:12:25 Speaker 2: Yea h. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: And he's great, So we definitely recommend voted for doctor Ralph heat Then. 00:12:31 Speaker 2: Then Elijah Norton State Treasures so it's taken over for Kimberly. 00:12:35 Speaker 3: Elijah Norton, young guy ran actually against David Schweiker and did pretty well last time for Congress. He was the since then the treasure for the Arizona Republican Party has done a tremendous job, big supporter of Turning Point for many years. Grew one of the largest assurance companies in the country in his own business, multi multi multimillion dollar company. 00:12:58 Speaker 4: Uh. And we think he's going to do it trum in his job. 00:13:00 Speaker 2: And then there are obviously there's some names that people are probably like, why aren't they on there, but they they are Turning Point Action Arizona Federal endorsements. We've got Eli Crane, Paul gosar Abahammaday, doctor Zudi Jasser, Mark Lamb, and Wan Siscamani. So those those round out. You can throw that graphic up there if people want to see it, but that that rounds out sort of the list of names people are probably expecting to see. 00:13:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Sheriff Mark Lamb, great friend the organization for many years. Actually did the big border documentary that we did with Charlie a few years back, Border Battle. Here those those that remember it follow turning points content. 00:13:38 Speaker 2: Huge he was. 00:13:39 Speaker 3: He's obviously been sheriff, you know, fighting the left longer than just about anybody in the state since the left to try to hijack Arizona and get rid of all the border. 00:13:51 Speaker 4: Fence and things like that. 00:13:53 Speaker 3: We have Wan Siscamani that's in the fight of his life right now and CED six, so this is one of the key target districts in America. Arizona has two of them, CD one and CD six, So CD one is Jay Feeley Joe Chaplick, both friends of the organization. We're going to see how that turns out tonight. But Wan Siscamani is needing all the support he possibly can get, not just to help Arizona, but to save Congress. 00:14:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like. 00:14:20 Speaker 5: A huge with all the with all of the adjustments different states have made, We're one of the only states that has swing districts anymore. 00:14:26 Speaker 3: So Arizona has the highest per capita number of swing districts population wise, right there with Iowa. So Iowa and Arizona both have gubernatorial races and Andy Biggs and Zach Lane, and then we both have two at risk congressional districts. 00:14:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, so polls close. It's seven pm in Arizona tonight. So even if you're listening to this or watching this broadcast and you're like, I don't live in Arizona, but my cousin does, call your cousin, get everybody out to the polls. As Tyler is saying, this is a muscle that needs to be extracise when there are elections to be had. You cannot set this out. Get out and vote today. What's the website they can go to to find their polling location things like that. 00:15:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can go to tpaction dot com slash as early, which has all of the should redirect to our election day website for Arizona. 00:15:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is vote Arizona slash. 00:15:25 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, tpaction dot com. We did update at tpaction dot com slash vote Arizona. 00:15:30 Speaker 2: Or is it vote easy Vote Arizona Vote. 00:15:32 Speaker 3: Arizona tpaction dot com slash vote Arizona for all of the polling places if you follow the Turning Point action social media. We are directing people all day long if you live in Arizona. Again, we're sending text messages out to basically everyone in the state. We have been for the last two weeks, just to remind everybody you got to get out to vote right away today and Biggs Bigs Bigs Biggs bigs Ye Andy has the potential to actually do something historic today. 00:16:04 Speaker 4: He could be one of the largest. 00:16:07 Speaker 3: Most winningness primary victories in Arizona for the last forty years, which. 00:16:12 Speaker 2: Would send a huge message. And we actually we're gonna be broadcasting tonight. We're starting around seven seven thirty local, that's right, so kind of late on the East coast, but that's when results are going to start coming in. There's an election watch party if you're in Arizona. 00:16:28 Speaker 3: And this matters for the whole country. The way that Arizona goes, the whole country goes. 00:16:32 Speaker 2: For this next question, we need to keep Arizona. Actually, we need to fortify Arizona. Thank you, Tyler, Thanks you vote Arizona today. 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Tot seven. 00:18:36 Speaker 6: I got stopped by a cop who thought it was like making fun of of Mause Dong, which I never would and never will. Malse Dong is a is a one of the great leaders of this world. Okay, a man who changed the entire universe, the entire planet. 00:18:55 Speaker 2: Gee, what do you think when you hear a clip like that. 00:18:58 Speaker 7: Well. 00:18:58 Speaker 8: First off, we'll have to say that I remember the moment the first time that Charlie Kirk interviewed me. It was just so special. I'm just feel so sad to come to his show without him, but thank you for carrying on. We must carry it on. Yes, yes, I heard that. I watched that, and I've been watching him and he is absolutely a communist without understanding what communists is really about. He has no understanding of Mao. He has no understanding and I know knowledge of what Mao has done. The great leader, so called great leader, and I lived through I spent the first twenty six years under Mau. 00:19:39 Speaker 9: And I guess you want to know my story? 00:19:42 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean, so you lived through this, you survived this quote unquote great leader who transformed the universe and the planet. How did he transform China? Gee? 00:19:55 Speaker 4: What? 00:19:55 Speaker 2: What? What did he do that made him such a great leader? I'm curious. I know, I know. 00:20:00 Speaker 8: I was born in nineteen fifty nine, and that was the year that began the First three and began the three Year Famine, the Great Famine that killed up to fifty million Chinese peasants, those peasants who want free staff. Yes, and when I was seven, that was the beginning of the cultural revolution. In the process, it lasted for ten years, and in the process, up to twenty million people lost their lives. And I saw part of it. And I as a. 00:20:36 Speaker 9: Little schoolgirl, I lost two years of my. 00:20:40 Speaker 8: Education because school was closed, and I saw the Red Guards destroy everything, the heritage of our civilization. 00:20:48 Speaker 9: And then when I graduate from high school, there's nothing for young people like me. 00:20:53 Speaker 8: So we're all sent to the countryside to work in the fields, to get the song called re education from the peasants. 00:21:01 Speaker 9: It is the best way to describe it. As school. I spent three years there. 00:21:07 Speaker 8: Also I experienced starvation and uh and and scarcity. 00:21:14 Speaker 9: Everything is ration, even toothpaste. 00:21:18 Speaker 8: But what Picker doesn't know is that mal killed more Communists than any communist leaders. He had no idea, and the whole Cultural revolution is CCP's version of inquisition. He targeted the entire party of his own party and to take them down, and he and even the leader, even the father of the current great leader. 00:21:49 Speaker 9: She's in pin. 00:21:50 Speaker 8: His father was purged, his family was persecuted. His half sister committed suicide because she. 00:21:58 Speaker 9: Could not deal he alw this persecution. I had no idea mal killed. 00:22:06 Speaker 8: More Chinese Communists than any one in the world. 00:22:12 Speaker 5: You say he doesn't know, maybe he would disagree or not know on killing communists, But I think a lot of the appeal of a figure like Mao to someone like Hasan Piker is. 00:22:24 Speaker 2: The body count they actually do. 00:22:25 Speaker 5: They totally lean into that these figures were authoritarian, that they killed huge numbers of people. The reason we're talking about this is not just that was a stream where he was talking about. He won't criticize Mao, but Hassan, he just spoke to a dinner of college democrats and he made a very conscious fashion choice he won't usually see in the United States. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: Let's play clip number eight. 00:22:48 Speaker 10: No more to trump Ism, but no more to the Democrats who compromise, who conciliate, and who betray us. 00:22:56 Speaker 2: No more to the fascist reactionaries. 00:22:58 Speaker 10: But no more to the Democrats who will collaborate and cooperate with the fascists, who will fund Ice, who will fund Israel, who will help poison the planet, who will stiff workers and help bosses. We don't need those democrats anymore. 00:23:13 Speaker 5: So there, while he's talking, no compromise with any moderate Democrats. 00:23:18 Speaker 2: They're as bad as the fascist. 00:23:20 Speaker 5: As he calls them, because they'll support Israel, because they'll support ICE, or they'll fund ice, they'll allow people to be deported. 00:23:27 Speaker 2: They're all the enemy. 00:23:28 Speaker 5: And while he's saying that, if you couldn't see it, he's wearing the sun yacht sunsuit, the outfit off that Maw wears in every image of him and that they still wear in communist China today. I think he's well aware of what he's advocating. 00:23:42 Speaker 9: And if this is something he. 00:23:43 Speaker 8: Doesn't know, yes, but he doesn't know that he will be the first one to go. Why because he's so damn opinionated and he's rich, he will be the first one to go. 00:23:54 Speaker 9: And that's something that he doesn't know. And of course they don't know. 00:23:58 Speaker 8: Of course He's followers don't know because our education, educational system has been taken over by Marxists. 00:24:05 Speaker 9: They know every simple haitler about fascism. 00:24:09 Speaker 8: They don't know that communism and fascism and Nazism is the same thing. And also socialism communism, no difference, just a matter of stage. And we're told when I grew up that the socialism is this initial state of communists. 00:24:29 Speaker 2: M hm, you know it finds I find it interesting though, that same through line that you said, Mao killed a bunch of communists and you're saying he'd be the first one to go. I totally get it. But you see that same spirit being animated in him, this animal passion for wanting to first tear down anybody in the ranks that don't pass his purity tests. And I have to believe that that was the same spirit animating MoU's brutal carnage within his own Communist ranks, that if you do not meet my purity test, you're gone, or if you become a problem to me, you're gone. And that this is why I said, I said on social media last night that Hassan Piker, if given the power or anybody like him, wants us dead, they would get rid of us in a second because we would stand up to them trying to seize the means of production. Do am I missing this? 00:25:25 Speaker 9: It's power. 00:25:25 Speaker 8: It's all about power exactly, And that's what Jim Pine has been saying. If your loyalty to the party is not absolute, you are absolutely disloyal to the party. Purity and absolute loyalty. That's what they demand. But the thing that she jim Pin is scared. She jim Pin, even though he has all the power, he suspects everyone around him to be disloyal. He lives in such fear, and that is the core of communism. It is about power, and it's about for wild will be a victim, even the highest leader will be a victim. 00:26:05 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I mean I think it's it's important for us to emphasize because you can say, why are you guys highlighting a streamer where he says a nice thing about Mao. Is this a big deal? And we really need to drive this home. There are a ton of people who are This guy is getting magazine profiles everywhere on the left. He is a huge voice. He's a huge voice for young leftists. He's clearly representing the wave of the future for this party. And what they are embracing is you can call it Maoism, you can call it communism, you can call it third worldism, but. 00:26:40 Speaker 2: It's a much more. 00:26:43 Speaker 5: Culturally arsonist way of viewing the entire West that they want to. They're gloating that they're going to tear everything down. They're gloating about who they'll put in there. 00:26:52 Speaker 2: Listen to his list of endorsements. Adam Hamaway in New Jersey twelve Abdul l Sayed, who's running for US Senate in Michigan. 00:27:02 Speaker 5: That's the man who had condolences about the Iatola's stuff, but he's attacked his opponent for for voting on a resolution to honor Charlie Yep, Claire Valdez and Chevalier New York House races DSA backed. 00:27:20 Speaker 2: These are people that have openly supported the destruction of the West, the destruction of America. So Tom Steyer, Nitia Rahman in California, the far left candidates. So this is not some history lesson that doesn't relate to our current moment. No, it relates very well because these terrible ideas are being recycled in our current moment. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why REFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about y REFI for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. 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You're doing such a good job of telling this story so that we are not doomed to repeat the history of communists China and so many other authoritarian regimes. I gotta get through this point though, because this is what we're seeing play out. Charlie used to always say what happens on campus doesn't stay on campus. It bleeds into corporate boardrooms in the halls of Congress, and we're seeing that right now. And I want to talk about this long march through the institutions that communists have been engaging upon in this country. It's NOTT twenty three. This is a congressional hearing that's happened this morning, and we're seeing this play out right now. It's not twenty three, doctor Blake. 00:29:37 Speaker 8: When people see the warning signs that you mentioned, why is it important that they speak up and take action. 00:29:44 Speaker 11: Well, it's important because if the people don't stand up, they lose these institutions. And as you just suggest that the black world came to America for the World Cup, I wonder if I wonder if people notice that the world is black and brown. Teams from European countries were black and brown. 00:30:04 Speaker 2: So they're talking about the basically the museums, the institutions, and how they they're fighting back against what they call President Trump's propaganda within the Smithsonian and they're noticing that it's the authoritarian tendencies of President Trump. What is the actual truth here, Givanfleet, about what has happened to America's cultural institutions, our educational institutions over the last four to five decades. 00:30:34 Speaker 9: It's the Loonemarch institution. 00:30:36 Speaker 8: Is the Marxist takeover of this country, one institution at the time, and they started with the higher education. They started with university. And when they control university, they control this country because they had been produced generations of Marxists. 00:30:51 Speaker 9: Where are they now? 00:30:52 Speaker 7: They are being. 00:30:52 Speaker 8: Control of our institution, especially the Smithsonian Institution. They control all the museums and historical sides, and lately for Americans two hundred and fifties anniversary, I visited many historical sides, especially Montchello. 00:31:11 Speaker 9: You go there if you. 00:31:13 Speaker 8: Don't know anything about Jefferson, you know with this idea that what an awful man he is and he is a slave owner, and that's pretty much all you'll get. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly. Jasmine Crockett had to weigh in here, Jeevan Fleet, she's sounding the same note twenty four. 00:31:36 Speaker 12: So, doctor Blight. If Republicans are going to band books, penalized schools and universities, attack museums, if states continue to change curriculum, where do Americans go to learn about the complicated, sometimes racists and violent parts of American history? 00:31:54 Speaker 11: Thank you for the question. I think they will have to keep going to the same institutions, and we have to keep to preserve what we are doing in those institutions. They have to keep going to public schools, they have to keep going to their public libraries, they have to keep going to the Great Smithsonian. Americans have to keep going to those places they trust. We have to keep those institutions trustworthy. 00:32:22 Speaker 2: Okay, so they're only trustworthy to your point if they talk about our racist, quote racist and violent past, and they're accusing us of banning books, of penalizing schools and universities. Why is it that they feel so entitled to these things, and why is it so important to them that they capture them. 00:32:43 Speaker 8: Yeah, because if you control the institution, you really control the narrative, and you control what how people learn of our past. 00:32:50 Speaker 9: They're really this is absolutely rewriting of the past. 00:32:55 Speaker 13: And that's the exact We're not through up no idea what China looked like before the CCP, And they use this term the old society and describe it it's something just so hellish that I should feel so grateful that now I live under CCP because this is what. 00:33:15 Speaker 8: They call new society, and that what they do the same thing. America's past is slavery, and that's slavery never died. We never had a civil war, we never had a civil rights movement. The slavery is still today. It's still here. And that's what's in slaves. So many people's mind, they feel like they are still slaves. That is absolutely the purpose to control their mind. 00:33:38 Speaker 2: That's such a good point. They want. They have to castigate and shame and demoralize us as a civilization and a country that has I would argue, the proudest history of any modern country in the world, maybe throughout all of human history. And they that's what makes the challenge so difficult for them. But they're succeeding in these crazy ways that you would have never imagined. And the fruit of it is a sand Piker, the fruit of it is Chevalier, the fruit of it is Nitia Rahman. The rise of DSA. What is your warning to the country as you see these DSA candidates actually gain political power? Gee, what is your warning? 00:34:18 Speaker 9: And I have one thing I will really add this is something very important. 00:34:23 Speaker 8: In the past, we really talk a lot about cultural Marxism, like at the Long March through institutions, because they failed to implement the economic Marxism because the working class do not buy their bush. The working class actually get richer to become middle class. So but recently they have been bringing up this class struggle. They have been bring up this economic Marxism as well. I think it's because the Democratic Party the left have successfully created American proletariat through the welfare policy. They have orig about people who depend on the government who never get ahead, because that's the plan, you never get a hit. 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Take action now, go to Selective Search dot com slash California and start building the future you deserve. We have a special guest in studio with us today and that is Colin Plume, CEO of Noble Gold Investments Noblegold Investments dot com. Colin, welcome back. Good. We need economic touch points from time to time because there's just so many moving parts in an economy this large, but also geopolitically, there's the energy prices. I mean, there's a lot that's going on that's influencing a very dynamic uh uh in volatile economy actually in many ways. And so we're you're here today. I have to start though, because you are the gold guy, you're the silver guy. You're actually probably more famous as the silver guy. But you do a probably maybe even more in gold. I don't know what it is. You tell me they do have gold in the name. Yeah, Noble Gold Investments, So I guess people assume. But you also wrote a book about silver, so you're good at both. Put it that way. So gold is down, it's on sale, silver is down, yes, yeah, correct, first of all, yeah, I totally agree, actually because there was a okay, so two part question. What caused the run up? Yeah, and what's driving this current price dip? 00:38:22 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think first was inflation. You know, people saw inflation hit numbers they've never seen before. You saw massive demand, central bank buying demand, which is still continued, but we're seeing I mean, this demand from central banks has gone. 00:38:37 Speaker 15: For six years in a row. Whether you know, they've bought. 00:38:40 Speaker 14: About a thousand tons of gold per year to give you an idea. For five years before that, central banks have bought between two hundred and fifty and three hundred tons, So they tripled in the last six years of buying. 00:38:51 Speaker 2: And really per year, per year, and a lot. 00:38:54 Speaker 14: Of it has to do with them getting away from the dollar. Also, it's become an ultra pative currency for countries with sanctions, right, We've seen it happen with Russia, We're seeing it with Iran. 00:39:06 Speaker 15: So there is you know, that is the angle around some of the sanctions is to trade oil for gold. 00:39:13 Speaker 14: So you saw that dynamic happen. So you saw this massive run up for gold where it was fifty three hundred dollars an ounce silver was one hundred and twenty dollars ounce, and then you saw a massive pullback in February and March, and you saw the most selling of paper gold than we've ever seen in the market GLD SLD the paper forms the most selling. 00:39:37 Speaker 2: How does that work? By the way, So you get a paper certificate and the gold is stored in some vault somewhere. 00:39:42 Speaker 14: Well, that's what's supposed to happen. What's been happening is last year people actually want a delivery, and that was another reason the price went up, is because there's tons of. 00:39:51 Speaker 15: Articles about this. But basically people. 00:39:53 Speaker 14: Decided, you know what, I don't want the contract, I want physical. They went to the London Exchange and went to Comax they wanted and they couldn't deliver, and that created more hysteria and excitement because they basically said it's going to be two months. 00:40:06 Speaker 15: Well, the people thought their gold was backed. 00:40:08 Speaker 14: Ounced for ounce right like one contract per but it's never been. It's always been that way. It's always been the suppression of the gold price. So there was this run up till till January, and then you saw it in March, April and May, just a massive paper selling GLD, SLV, people got out of positions, hedge fund managers, people that were in positions they wanted to get out of. You just saw this massive liquidation. Now, the interesting thing is on the physical side, you didn't see it. 00:40:35 Speaker 15: We didn't see it. 00:40:36 Speaker 14: The industry didn't see massive amounts of selling. It was really just the paper selling, which does affect the price. So you had the price. 00:40:45 Speaker 15: Go back down. 00:40:45 Speaker 14: So now gold's below four thousand and you have silver blow below sixty. Obviously silver's having a great day to day. It's up over two dollars today. Gold's up pretty massive today too. But it's sort of what happens in the gold market is you have these massive run up based on news, and then there was this leveling off and then I think the last thing that maybe have hurt the goal price, but I don't think it's true. Is this idea that Kevin worsh maybe is gonna be hawkish. I think a lot of people have been talking about that that he's going to raise interest rates potentially or he's not going to, you know, expand the money supply. I think he is going to expand the money supply. 00:41:20 Speaker 2: But if he expands the money supply. 00:41:22 Speaker 15: What happens to that would be very positive for goal. 00:41:25 Speaker 14: I think how he's coming into this job, this is a massive job, and right now with the CPI going up, what are his levers? What can he do if everyone says he's going to raise interest rate? If he raises interest rates, it costs our government more money to borrow. That's not good for us either. It also affects the real estate market also, commercial real estate, residential, all everything would really be hindered by higher rates. That's not what we need right now in the economy. So what are the other levers that he can do? And so, in my opinion, I've been saying it for a whiles, I think he'll do some type of quantitative easing to open up the money supply to get the markets moving, which is what we did in two thousand and nine. Similar idea, Right we had a credit crisis. How do you get more money in the markets? How do you stimulate without moving interest rates? So that's one lever. 00:42:13 Speaker 2: So the gold market sees increased money supply and they say, you know, more supply on the market. That means the value of the average dollars going down, going down. So therefore the price of gold will go up. 00:42:25 Speaker 14: Yeah, correct, And and so that's the real question is what's going to happen over the next few weeks. 00:42:30 Speaker 15: So I think you've. 00:42:31 Speaker 14: Had all these things happening that have pushed the price of gold down, but we're seeing a lot of normalcy in the trading range now where you're seeing buyers in the thirty nine hundred, that that's becoming kind of the normal. Obviously there's always the risk you go down to thirty six, thirty seven hundred, but you know, you see institutions like Bank of America came out earlier, sir, they were predicting they've had analyst saying three hundred dollars silver in January, and now we're at fifty eight. So I think there's I think we're in a more of a normal range. 00:42:58 Speaker 15: Now we went to like extreme. I think it leveled off and now we'll see why. 00:43:04 Speaker 5: Maybe this is the basic question, why do gold and silver seem to perform and they are aligned, but they do perform differently even though they're both primarily investment metals to my understanding, So what why would silver go up to three hundred, which would be tripling its price while gold is not. 00:43:20 Speaker 2: Usually silver is used in a lot of technology it is. 00:43:24 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think there's first of all, silver you have to think about is all the potential with war. I mean, the reason our government last year, the US government and the Chinese government made silver a strategic metal is because with these expanding areas of war that we're going to they use silver in Tomahawk missiles and a lot of technology, drones, all this. So as these things continue to grow, the US government needs it, the Chinese government needs it. So when they make a strategic metal, they're saying like we're going to limit the amount that we're going to get rid of. We're going to keep as much as we can. And we've you know, the government has has borrowed and seized silver over history. In nineteen forty two, we were running out of copper during World War two, as you know, they borrowed fourteen thousand ounces from the US Treasury for for silver for military type uses. So I think that that production is going to continue to go. But to answer your question, I think when you have six years of central bank buying. 00:44:22 Speaker 15: Of gold, silver did lag. 00:44:25 Speaker 14: Silver did eventually lag, But what eventually what happened is that once we realize that there's so many strategic uses that we needed for silver, then you saw the price start to go back up. There's always that one hundred to one, you know, eighty to one seventy one gold, the silver ratio that we've talked about a lot, and it's you know, we're in a different range than we've been, but I think that silver typically lags behind gold. 00:44:49 Speaker 2: Okay, so we got forty five seconds here. Predictions for interest rates, Yeah, in the next six months, Predictions for the price of gold. 00:44:59 Speaker 15: Those yeah, I actually don't. 00:45:02 Speaker 14: I don't think he's gonna have any way to do anything with interest rates. In my opinion, I don't think he's going to raise I think that would really crush a lot of the markets, and it would make our borrowing more expensive. I think gold this year, I would say probably close to forty eight hundred and forty nine hundred for gold, and I would say silver probably breaks. I would say probably close to seventy this year. I think there's gonna be a big run. 00:45:23 Speaker 2: The current price of silver is fifty nine thirteen. 00:45:26 Speaker 14: Yeah, so I think a seventy silver is a realistic range. The buying seems to be pretty, and we're seeing a lot of people that sold at one hundred and twenty silver and five fifty four hundred gold. 00:45:37 Speaker 15: They're coming back in. So I think you're going to see a lot of people by the. 00:45:40 Speaker 2: Day they took their profits. Now they're going to reinvest it. Yeah, I love that Blake. What you got there in your hand? This is is that a World Cup trophy? Not quite? It is one kilogram of gold, so it's very heavy, colonized. He brings this the beautiful, this bullion, but he doesn't let us keep it, and it's very frustrating, you know, but it is beautiful. I will tell you. It is like when you actually see it and hold it up close, it's it's like a you understand why the ancients all gravitated gravitated gold. It is like a chill is not a lot that's amazing. 00:46:16 Speaker 5: That's like one of the weights that Obama's you know, lifting in the funny video of him. But it feels a lot heavier. So there's five times as much of this in that World Cup trophy. 00:46:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so. So how much is the World Cup trophy worth? And they say gold value has soared although it is down in the last six months. It's it's up year over year. 00:46:35 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:46:35 Speaker 16: So compared to the first World Cup, the first World Cup for or not the first the last World Cup, the trophy was worth liken know, two hundred thousand or two hundred and fifty thousand, and. 00:46:48 Speaker 15: Now the trophy is worth like seven hundred and eight hundred. 00:46:51 Speaker 2: That's almost a million dollars that being held up in the hands right there, which is yeah, and Trump was holding it, you know, he loves that. 00:46:57 Speaker 15: Trump put Yeah, he was. He's gonna walk. 00:46:59 Speaker 2: Away with that. 00:47:00 Speaker 14: So do they get to keep it? They do not get to keep it. That It is actually fascinating. You think, like all the money made that they said is the most profitable. It's like sporting of the team in all time, Like what's seven hundred and eighty thousand to the winning country. It feels like they should get it, but no, FIFA gets it back, so so they and then they get a replica, They get a replicaid So replica. 00:47:28 Speaker 2: Is it at least also made of gold or no? 00:47:32 Speaker 5: No, no, it's probably they get like one of my youth like soccer trophies. 00:47:35 Speaker 2: It's made of gold tinge plasta. Yeah, it is all right, So that's that's a fascinating bit of trivia there. But so that did you have well I was I was going to ask. 00:47:45 Speaker 5: So we were talking about people are increasingly getting delivery of gold of silver. They're they're wanting to physically claim it. Yeah, someone I know I was telling you about they were investing in gold and then they discovered they were talking to a friend as a jeweler, not with us, not with you, not with you, but they were looking at it and this was gold that was in the case, like one of those perth mint ounces. And our jeweler friend looks at it and says, that's fake. And they they tested it and it turned out it was plated tungsten. So what do people need to look out for? What are the traps people can fall into? 00:48:19 Speaker 14: Yeah, No, I mean I think it's you gotta go. You got to read the reviews of the dealer. You know, you got to make sure that they've been around for a long time. You got to make sure that. I think that's interesting that I'm finding out the last two years with dealers going out of business. 00:48:31 Speaker 15: If a dealer says they won't buy it back. 00:48:34 Speaker 2: Probably this is this is probably a red friend because yeah, finish your thought. 00:48:39 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, so a they've been around for a while. Uh B. If the price is too good to be true, it probably is. That's I mean. 00:48:47 Speaker 14: Sometimes on eBay you hear these like oh, I bought it three hundred dollars below the spot price, Like, well, it's. 00:48:52 Speaker 2: Probably fake and you know, and you said, make sure they're willing to buy it back. 00:48:55 Speaker 15: Make sure they're willing to buy it. 00:48:57 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:48:57 Speaker 15: They If they won't buy it back, that's probably an indy. 00:48:59 Speaker 2: Care And I take it you're willing to buy it. 00:49:02 Speaker 15: We buy everything. 00:49:02 Speaker 5: Well, let's say this is informal, like it's a friend who has you know, maybe they inherited it or something, and they're just they're willing. 00:49:09 Speaker 2: To sell it off. What should you what should a person like that do to make sure they don't accidentally. 00:49:13 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think the key accidentally sell it for the wrong price. 00:49:18 Speaker 5: Or no, or accidentally buy a fake like maybe the person doesn't know it's fake themselves. 00:49:21 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I think the key if you buy it from a coin or punshot, they can test it right there. 00:49:26 Speaker 15: Okay, so that you could get it tested, and you should before you take it out of it that would be the first thing. You know. 00:49:31 Speaker 14: Obviously, a dealer like us, we're shipping millions and millions of dollars and we get everything tested. I mentioned, we do buy back from time to time from other people that are our clients, and we do get fakes in and fortunately we have to call them and tell them that they're fake. 00:49:44 Speaker 15: But they know, you know, they're trying to sell us fakes. 00:49:46 Speaker 2: And I haven't even thought about this. 00:49:47 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a part of the business you have to be wearing. 00:49:50 Speaker 2: But you you you were mentioned in the break that one of like the big brand names in this ro Capital, Rosland Capital went out of business. 00:49:57 Speaker 15: Went out of business. 00:49:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened. 00:49:59 Speaker 14: Yeah, And it's one hundred million dollar bankruptcy and you can go online and read. 00:50:04 Speaker 15: About it and it's it's terrible what's happened because the biggest creditors. 00:50:10 Speaker 14: On the bankruptcy are clients, unfortunately, and they are people that that this person just didn't deliver, he never delivered on and and and it happens a lot because what happens in a rising market is that you see a company try to play the market and they're floating. There's a lot of floating and so sometimes I talk to people and they're like, oh, they haven't delivered in sixty days, or they haven't there there's no reason that you should take sixty days. I mean we're shipping the same week. Sometimes I can ship the next day. There's no reason it should take that long. I would be concerned if anybody's telling you or if you're about to do a trade and they're like, it's going to take six weeks or eight weeks. They're they're doing they're holding your money and they're playing the market and they're trying to time. 00:50:55 Speaker 15: The market and trying to play catch up, ketchup. And that's yeah. 00:50:59 Speaker 14: Yeah, and listen, I don't know the whole story with that company, but yeah, they were in businesses two thousand and eight. 00:51:06 Speaker 15: They were all over Fox News William Devane. Yeah, Fox News. 00:51:10 Speaker 14: Is actually one of the creditors they're they're in for like two million ode like on you know TV commercials. There's a bunch of other advertising companies. 00:51:18 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's well, this is why we work with you because you know, when we started, you know, the show, it was like so many shysters, like people don't realize, like when we launched a Charlie Kirk show. There was all these like people that were like, oh, we want to partner with you. When to partner with you? And we had to like filter through like a ton of noise, and you know that's when we found you. And we're so grateful. So you've been with us like basically since the very beginning and super grateful. So if you want to check out what Colin does, noble goold Investments dot com slash Kirk noble Goold Investments dot com slash Kirk. I just want to get that in shameless plug because all we're talking about just fake gold perth things and like bankrupt like this, Colin does business the right way. So but I did want to bring up this one other thing. The Treasury unveils US Mint seventeen seventy six to twenty twenty six one dollar coin. This is this is like new coin news. This is the trolley geek out on. 00:52:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not a golden coin. This is this is like a zinc coin. 00:52:23 Speaker 14: It's copper copperly copper, yeah, it's it's it's. 00:52:26 Speaker 15: A commemorative coin. 00:52:28 Speaker 14: I think it'll be worth money for sure. People will buy it and they'll sell it. I think it's really fun, but don't mistake this for actually having gold in it. I hope maybe they will. Maybe the demand will be high and they'll. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: They'll release like the gold version. 00:52:43 Speaker 15: Yeah, gold version or a silver version of it would be really great. I think they should absolutely do it. But that is plated. 00:52:52 Speaker 14: And and there's a lot of stuff out where people don't realize. There's advertising where they'll say like twenty four carrot gold and then the coin will be like fitt it's maybe has you know a play like we were talking about how food they put gold on top, Like that's what you're buying if you want to buy the real thing, that's that's what we do. 00:53:09 Speaker 4: That's what we find. 00:53:11 Speaker 2: I did expect the conversation going in this direction, but like underscore, big bold letters, bright font highlighted. Please go with people that you can trust absolutely when you're getting into the space. It's a really important space, hedge against protect inflation, the d dollarization movement. You've got to diversify your portfolio if you have any type of money, if you're you get any type of liquid assets, it's a great thing to do. You gotta go with people you can trust. 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You never accept that, and that's one reason Charlie was able to achieve so much. He wouldn't blackpill. And we have another person joining us now with a similar message. He's the author of a book that is called white Pill, which is the opposite of black pilling. And he's also a old colleague of mine when I was at the Daily Caller, Jacade Ago, Well, sorry, I just can't help myself So his name is Scott Greer. He's the author of the highly respected sub Stack, and he is also the author of White Pill, which is from our friends at Passage Publishing with Lomez, and he joins us now, Scott, welcome. 00:55:56 Speaker 2: What is the white pill for all of our viewers. 00:56:00 Speaker 7: Well, the white field offered by my book is something to discuss about how the transformation of conservatism has happened. If we go back ten years ago, fifteen years ago, conservatism was extremely different from what it is today. It was focused on what I call business first republicanism. It was more focused on Paul Ryanism. It did not care about the cultural or civilizational issues that the right now focuses on and the Trump administration now focuses on and that turning point USA and Charlie Kirk focused on. It was obsessed with fiscal conservatism, more wars, more unnecessary things that only mattered to corporate donors rather than matter to the base. And so my book aims to describe how conservatism change over the last decade. And it has many characters that would be familiar to your show, such as Charlie Kirk as being one of the instrumental figures and pushing the right in a more white pilled direction, as they would say, and now being a more combative force that takes on the left on numerous controversial topics that conservatives in the past would have run away from, such as immigration, such as anti white racism exactly. 00:57:09 Speaker 5: And it's funny because it's such a personal story. I remember Andrew, we'd talk to Charlie and sometimes people would bring up Charlie was more pro immigration in the past, and he was so frank about He'd. 00:57:18 Speaker 2: Say, that was bad Charlie. 00:57:19 Speaker 5: That was that was old Charlie, and his views evolved in a positive direction. 00:57:24 Speaker 2: He was very frank about that. 00:57:25 Speaker 5: And I think it's because of what your book is about, Scott, which is I think it was it was a thought that was waiting to be spoken by Donald Trump on the campaign trail, but also in spaces online. They just people weren't hearing this from their leaders, and so it was the thought wasn't it wasn't going through people's heads. 00:57:45 Speaker 2: I remember specifically when Trump came down and started talking about immigration. This is something that I had been pretty radicalized on for years. Actually, I was living in southern California seeing the chaos of a culture that had no through line and had no cohesiveness, and I just remember thinking, you can't say these things, so I guess we can't have them. I guess we can't even fight for them because nobody's going to stand up for them. And then Trump, to Blake's point, stood up and said it, and at least an iteration of it. It started the ball rolling, and I remember just feeling the sense of relief that somebody finally said it right, that they're not sending their best, they're sending their rapists. And also, and I suppose some of them are good people, a ligne he was so excoriated for and so attacked for. But it lit a fuse that I think, I still don't think it's fully formed. Jet Scott, Where in this journey are we well? 00:58:33 Speaker 7: The journey we're now at is that when conservative politicians want to demonstrate their conservative buono fides, to demonstrate that they are the most right wing candidate, what do they do? They demand immigration restriction. We saw that earlier this year when we had calls to repeal the Heart Celler Act and impose a massive reduction in immigration, and this was endorsed by Ron De Santis who has a good nose for knowing what's a good way to sell himself to the conservative public, are knowing what the conservative base once and in the past the way, if you look at the Tea Party, what they thought is the most right wing way to demonstrate themselves. The most conservative candidate was calling for cutting the Interior Department or something, or calling for some type of fiscal conservatism that didn't really animate the base and did not really capture what the public mood is or address the civilizational issues that threaten America. But today they now go towards immigration. And even though there are still rumblings over whenever a few backbench Republicans are a few notorious pro immigration Republicans proposed some new immigration bill or amnesty bill, they have very little chance of passing, unlike in twenty thirteen, where the entire Republican Party leadership says the only way the GOP can survive, and this was the purpose of the twenty twelve election autopsy. The GOP put out that year of saying the only way we can survive is if we pass amnecy is if we legalize millions of illegal aliens. This is the only way the party can survive in the future. Donald Trump presented a different future for the party, and that alternative one in twenty sixteen and one in twenty twenty four, the alternative that never won. The alternative never animated the base and never capture the imagination of the American public because it did not address serious issues that ordinary people are facing, which the New Right does address these issues. And so I think at this stance we're at now, at conservative politicians, Republican politicians in the past would even never dare talking about restricting legal immigration, but in order to demonstrate that they are the most conservative, most right wing guy out there, they are all eager to say, we want to cut immigration, and that's a huge positivelopment for the right. 01:00:53 Speaker 5: I love that you mentioned that autopsy. It's so easy for people to forget how bad things were in the past. That yeah, years ago, not that long. In the grand scheme of things, that was the line. 01:01:04 Speaker 2: We need amnesty. 01:01:05 Speaker 5: That is the only way we can win Hispanic voters in They're the future. And so I love that you mentioned that, because not only did we go a different path thanks to Donald Trump and others who led the way, we did it, and we won more of the Hispanic vote than we'd ever won in recent history by doing that. So the subtitle of your book is the Online Right and the making of the of Trump's America. 01:01:29 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 01:01:30 Speaker 5: And so I remember when after the twenty sixteen election, the left pretty accurately concluded Trump was able to win because of an uncensored Twitter that enabled people to hear his message, hear people supporting his message, even though TV was condemning him. 01:01:46 Speaker 2: They cracked down on it. 01:01:47 Speaker 5: They had a ton of censorship in twenty twenty, and then in twenty twenty two, Elon Musk buys Twitter, rebrands it as x we get a big reduction censorship and Trump is able. 01:01:57 Speaker 2: To roar back. 01:01:58 Speaker 5: How important is it for or the new conservative movement to sustain itself that we have these low censorship online spaces to share our message. 01:02:09 Speaker 7: It's extremely important. If you look back into the twenty twenty election, I mean, the liberals and Democrats were trying to ensure the election went a certain way, and one of the ways that they made sure that is tech censorship. And even at that time there could be random Trump tweets and he was still president of the United States this time, and Twitter, which was what EXAs called back then. Some may forget that they would censor Trump post, they would sensor Trump tweets. There was even advertisements about illegal immigration that Facebook and others would say, this is fake news, and then they would try to censor that. Even think about how they suppressed the information around Hunter Biden's laptop, which all these so called security experts came out to say, oh, this is Russian disinformation, this is totally fake news, when we all knew was real, but they utilized that talking point to then suppress and discussion about Hunter Biden's laptop. So with when you had censorship, it became very hard for the right to win and it became very hard for these ideas to get out there. And after Trump won, there was this massive censorship wave all across social media because they didn't want this to repeat itself. They did not want Trump to win another term. They did not want someone like Trump to have even have the chance of winning again. But thanks to Elon Musk and buying up X, it set a new standard for tech, and it set and it allowed for more free speech to emerge, and it countered censorship, and it allowed Trump to win in twenty twenty four, despite the massive opposition towards him, despite all these legal cases against him, despite all this outrage over January sixth, and numerous other things that the liberal media had whipped up against Trump, he was able to win. And no one would have predicted this. In twenty twenty one. It was been thought unthinkable that Trump could come back and win the presidency in twenty twenty four, but he was able to do so by the new pro free speech environment allowed by social media. And that's why it's very important to combat censorship anywhere it can take place, and to be very concerned if we try to go back to late twenty ten's level censorship. 01:04:24 Speaker 2: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why Refy will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. 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Where do you perceive the right being right now, this new right, this online right. As far as its relationship with the facts, evidence and proof, you know, that's. 01:06:15 Speaker 7: An interesting relationship they have with facts, evidence and proof. The Internet does allow a lot of freedom, and it also allows people to invent their own reality, which the Insane Clown Party has done a fantastic job of inventing their own reality. But it presents a very exciting way of showing the news. If you go to the news and it's all data and polling and elections and that, that's not as exciting. But imagine that if every part of the news is a new soap opera or a new spy thriller, or even that there's a supernatural element, like this random murder might have been the work of some type of monster or some sort. So they really like these ideas because it makes the news far more exciting, and a lot of the audience loves that. And one of the things one of the challenges with alternative media or independent media outside of the mainstream media is that a lot of the audience wants you to challenge and question established narratives and the establishment itself, which is usually a good thing because as you pointed out with around COVID, around what they've said about immigration and numerous other issues are even look at how they portrayed the George Floyd Revolution. There's a lot of reasons and a lot of ground to challenge them totally. But a lot of people want you to go further and create your own spy thriller out of every news item or especially soap operas. So people get into this and that really what their main concerns become is whether UFOs are controlling bridge destructions are what there might be some you know, space lasers involved in wildfires in California. That's always a big thing, which in the past, you know, if someone's blaming space lasers for wildfires, they'd be like, that's nuts. But then if you go on X and if there's ever a wildfire going on, space lasers are at the top of the list of culprits. It's even the same if there's a new hurricane afoot are some other major natural disaster. Weather machines are now a primary culprit for why this happened. You even saw this last year in the tragic flooding that happened in Texas everyone. You know, if you're going on X and social media, everyone's starting to blame the weather machines, which you know, I don't think that it would be the weather machine. So it makes but it makes the news far more exciting than just so ordinary retelling of facts, and that's why people like it. 01:08:43 Speaker 5: So, Scott, we were just discussing the role censorship plate. I think if you're the left, you can react to something nutty like this and say, well, let's just let's censor crazy stuff. 01:08:52 Speaker 2: So people are protected. 01:08:54 Speaker 5: But both because we generally oppose censorship, and also because we know censorship will immediately be used to suppress important, true things that need to be said about immigration and so on. How does the right deal with with this issue where there are a lot of people who are going to go towards this siren song of really outlandish conspiracies, sort of untethered from facts, the soap operification of politics. In one of your recent articles is could insane clown populism, the insane clown party take over the right? 01:09:26 Speaker 2: How do we prevent it? If not through censorship? 01:09:29 Speaker 7: I think you challenge it, especially with you established Republican politician who air these insane theories and comments that you challenge them and saying we're not going to go down this silly route. And the left actually has their own problem with conspiratorialism, which they believe that any time that Trump there's another assassination attempt against Trump, it's now a false flag. But hilariously, the right also believes that as well. The ICP believes every insane conspiracy theory the left believes because it's an equal opportunity conspiracy theory believer. So even if things that support the Left like, oh this is another spy thriller, Okay, we're definitely gonna believe in this, even though it's undermining their own side. You know, the Butler assassination attempt is now seen as a false flag the Trump engineered himself to build up support, and right wingers and prominent influencers are into that, and I was like, how does that benefit our own side? So, at least with the left, their conspiratorialism, and they're just having as big of a problem with this. You could see that with Russia Gate and carrying on from there. But most of their conspiracies actually support their side. A lot of our conspiracies undermine our side and encourage our audience to vote for the left. 01:10:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, which is part of the problem our relationship. I do think that, you know, we talked to some young people at our chapter leadership summit. We did these roundtables. Blake and I and the young people are living in almost an alternate reality, right, the memification of everything. It's disassociative from reality. Right. What's the answer to that? We have forty seconds left here, Scott, So sorry for a big question, But how do you combat that? Is it just more speech? You just have to be louder than them. 01:11:13 Speaker 7: It's just more speech. I think it's presenting your side in a compelling fashion, not shying away from hard truths, and just delivering the truth and the best way you can. And that's the only way. The only way to defeat it is through and to continue on and carrying on the fight, and to not shy away from the fighter challenging it. Sometimes you should just ignore this stuff if it's just like completely out there, but once it gains an audience and it's becomes popular, you have to challenge it. And that's one of the lessons I put forward in my book White Pill, And that's What I hope that people take away as the White Pill is that the truth will always win. 01:11:49 Speaker 2: That's how exactly do right. 01:11:52 Speaker 7: Emerge to the forefront, and it will be how we conquer. 01:11:55 Speaker 5: Exactly the Let me shout out your book here, White Pill by Scott Career. You can find out at Amazon or at Passage Press. 01:12:02 Speaker 2: It's out today. Give him a look check out his substack. 01:12:05 Speaker 5: Highly respected on substack, Scott, thanks for joining us. 01:12:13 Speaker 14: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.