Charlie said he wanted 30,000 Club America chapters in the nation's high schools — quite the dream, since America only has 27,000 high schools in the first place! Turning Point's Nick Cocca joins to announce a major step toward Charlie's goal. Tyler Bowyer talks about the war plan against Indiana Republicans who voted in favor of more Democrat House seats.
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Speaker 4: Hello, Welcome to Friday edition of The Charlie Kirk Show. We've got a big crew. Here, we have Michael McCoy. Mikey McCoy will figure out one of those names right across from me and right next to me games to choose from. We have Joe Bob. He's uh, he's got a few titles. We were debating what to refer to him as Director of Joe Bob, President of Joe Bob, High Chancellor of Joe Bob.
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Speaker 5: So I do actually have Joe Bob in written form, trademarked. Really, the US PAD Trademark Office recognizes me as the official owner of the Joe Bob trademark. So I will have to charge you royalty fees for using the name. I know you're introducing me, but that is gonna come on your next expense report.
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Speaker 4: A dang it. All right, but we have a lot of fun things to talk about. First of all, we saw that Amfest promo again. We are one week out. If you want to buy ticket, you can't. It is totally sold out.
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Speaker 5: But tune in live.
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Speaker 4: Tune in live to be President. You'll have a lot of other speakers. Yep, you can tune in live. You can get in line for tickets next year. They go on sale pretty early. You can get yourself hyped up and there will be tons of clips, tons of episodes. It'll all be extremely exciting. I've been getting emails that are asking how do what should I do at Amfest? And my advice is just meet people. This is about grassroots energy. Make friends, because that's how you have engagement in the next election. People. You know, you go out, you organize and do things together. Yeah, a few other house keeping items. Stop in the Name of God remains on sale. It is sold out in various venues, but it'll be replaced soon enough. That's the great thing about capitalism. When you run out of something, they make more of it. And it's a lovely book, getting great reviews from people reading it all across the country. I like it.
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Speaker 5: One real quick thing on that I thought it was so interesting when that was kind of made aware Stop in the Name of God kind of the idea of honoring the Sabbath. I went back and looked at a couple of text messages with me and Mikey where I sent him videos and it's like, hey, can I can I send this a long to Charlie and he said, yeah, but he's on Sabbath. And this is two years ago. That he's been doing this, that he was doing it. It was very like prominent in his life. Not necessarily known to the entire world, but like even then kind of in private chats, it's like, yeah, you can not going to see it for another day, but yeah.
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Speaker 3: He called it his secret weapon. It was like he and he would always say too, you know, the punishment for missing the Sabbath is miss the Sabbath because it was actually a gift that was just waiting for you to receive it, and by not doing it, by not honoring it, you were missing out on the gipt. It was a punishment in and of itself, but it was the secret weapon to Charlie.
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Speaker 6: In six days, he worked.
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Speaker 3: His butt off and then the seventh day he rested and you could, you could see, and he would talk about this all the time, how he would be even more exhausted if he didn't get a full sabbath.
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Speaker 6: But he looked forward to that day every single every week.
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Speaker 4: All right. Well, so another Charlie thing besides that book. He always said he wanted to put a Turning Point USA chapter and later a Club America chapter in thirty thousand high schools across the US, which shows two things. Charlie was incredibly ambitious and two, we really need to increase America's birthrate because there are only twenty seven thousand high schools in America, so we got to open three thousand more.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's that's why he kept pushing that.
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Speaker 6: That's why he said kids.
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Speaker 4: And he wanted to build new towns because new towns would need new high schools. That was clearly his agenda item. So he wanted a lot more called America chapters. So we have a very exciting announcement related to that. So we have Turning Point, USA's Enterprise Director, I believe is his title. We have Nick Koca. Are you there in it?
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Speaker 7: Yes, gentlemen, I am here. Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's just cut right to it's what's the big announcement.
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm here in Nashville, Tennessee, in the state's capital. We just had a big announcement with Governor Bill Lee and Senator Marshall Blackburn and partnership to put a Club America chapter in every single high school in the state of Tennessee.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 6: How many states does that bring us to?
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Speaker 2: Nick?
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Speaker 6: Where states have made that announcement?
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Speaker 7: Well, Mikey had all started with the amazing former Superintendent Ryan Walters in Oklahoma putting out a declaration of support for Called America chapters. From there, we went into Florida with Governor DeSantis, and then we just wrapped up on Monday our announcement with Governor Greg Abbott. In the state of Texas, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, as you know, committed a million dollars to TPUSA and Club America and so we just finished our partnership there and today Tennessee makes number three or number four.
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Speaker 4: That's amazing. I'm already just checking.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 4: You've got over three thousand high schools in Texas. You have about twenty five hundred high schools in Florida. I'm looking here eighteen hundred public high schools in Tennessee. I think these are all public, So you'd have about ten boost up, about ten to fifteen percent to get privates. Oklahoma's probably another few hundred to one thousand, and it's we're actually getting well on our way there. Thought we just need the birth rate party, Yeah, we need the birth rate. Are we on pay still?
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Speaker 3: I think we were doing fifty new chapters a day across the asserts both between college and high school that the amount of inquiries are through the roof the amount of students joining. Nick, do you know the number of how many students have attended a Club America meeting or tpsa college chapter meeting? Since nine ten, how many people have come here?
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Speaker 7: Yes, Since Charlie's assassination, we have seen chapter numbers for high schools spiked to about fifty sixty per meeting. I was at the first meeting of a high school chapter in Alabama. We were standing room only in a classroom. More than fifty students came in to hear about their new Club America chapter.
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's amazing. That's amazing, And we want these to be vehicles for a lot of different things. It can be for discussing philosophical issues, for getting engaged at the grassroots level, for just normal community involvement, running a Bible study. It's really it runs the gamut what you can do with this if you're an engaged student, and if you have any good stories, email us Freedom at Charlie Kirk. We love hearing stories about the success of our chapters, things they've been able to do. We love sharing those.
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Speaker 5: Nick. One of the things.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 5: One of the videos that came up in my feed the other day was Charlie talking about how little his high school did on the founding and the founders and the brilliance of the founding of the country. How much do you think these Club America chapters will kind of infiltrate into the actual curriculum itself, because there these are clubs on campus. But I do think there's going to be some more intrinsic value into the actual education. I think teachers would probably be more likely to be able to talk about the founding a little bit more, even beyond what the curriculum might already be.
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Speaker 7: That's right, Bob. We are a future leaders club. Club America serves to empower those patriotic leaders of tomorrow. So they're learning about the Constitution, They're learning how to have a respectful debate and dialogue on the issues of today. They're networking with community leaders that could be anyone from their local mayor to the governor of their state. So they're making connections with these folks they're going to make their career. And they're bringing in speakers like Riley Gaines, who is at our event today for this announcement to learn how to stand up for girls, for girls sports and a wide range of issues. So I think through the leadership of our students, they're going to change the culture on their high school campus.
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Speaker 4: There are already turning point alums who have become members of Congress. I don't think Club America is not old enough. They cannot legally run for Congress yet.
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Speaker 3: But we have crazy stories of business leaders coming to us and just bagging us to get access to this student pool that we have across the US, both.
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Speaker 6: In high school and college.
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Speaker 3: But there's stories of students in high school graduating and immediately getting a high paying job. That's this amazing thing. Yeah, Nick, you said it. These were a future Leaders club.
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Speaker 4: Future leaders you can learn running an organization in your high school for real, not the fake ones that people found so they can look good on a college application. Way too much of that. But if it's a real organization that's trying to do real things in your community, you learn skills you look at. That's what Charlie was so amazing at. Charlie didn't need a college degree. He learned on the job of how to organize, how to be a leader, and he became this stupendous figure. Every single person running a Club America chapter can be future Charlie Kirk. That's what we want. We want everyone to be Charlie Kirk in the future. Thirty seconds, Nick, are we looking at Are there other states that have expressed interest we might be able to be hearing from soon?
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Speaker 7: Hopefully there certainly are. I do want to say, I hope that we can see more come from safe It's like Montana and Idaho and Iowa and maybe even my home state of Ohio. But we're going to be working with anyone and everyone we can at the state level to simply say hey, we have the students back and we support their right to free speech and to form a club.
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Speaker 4: That's amazing. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 8: Nick.
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Speaker 4: We got to get to those thirty thousand.
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Speaker 5: We're going to get to work.
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Speaker 4: We got a very breaking news email, and that's thus we read to the entire country Mike Reveal.
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Speaker 3: It says Joe Bob in the daylight, I thought he was only a nighttime vampire.
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Speaker 5: I think they might be referring to the show Turning Point Tonight, which airs at ten pm Eastern Unreal America's voices, which I usually do so that I do come out during the day, and it's not often, it's rare it.
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Speaker 4: You're a vampire, but like you, it's like the Twilight vampires who just kind of sparkle in the daylight.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, more tan, but yeah, definitely also a vampire. He does go to bed around three am and wake up around noon every day. That is really no, but I should probably That's That's what a lot of comedians.
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Speaker 4: I did that when I worked at Fox. Basically I didn't I didn't like to do things before I went to work, and it was an evening show, so I would just roll in work at one pm, so I would get up really late and then stuff.
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Speaker 5: Now the question is, did you use that as an excuse just to sleep in later? Like were you? Was that your primary goal? And then you just got a job that allowed you to be a lazy.
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Speaker 10: No.
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Speaker 5: On the topic of Club America, I thought I had a really good idea. Turns out it's not that great of an idea. Obviously, we want to have more kids, therefore bolster more high schools, which would allow us to get to that thirty thousand number. But also what if we acquired high schools? So I thought, how many high schools is Greenland half two? So yeah, that's that's the problem. I thought it was a good idea. Greenland has four high schools. They wopper secondary schools in the entire country. So is that gonna work that way?
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Speaker 4: It does help. It does helps about one to one thousandth of the additional high schools.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so are you against making progress on this school, Blake? Is that what I'm hearing?
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Speaker 3: That's right, you are kind of you know, we do have a lot of Greenlanders coming to Amfest, have a whole group of them.
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Speaker 4: Really, that's like one percent of the population. If we get five or something, there's like fifteen.
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Speaker 6: Of them coming.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of, we'll give away two Amfest tickets on the show today if you email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com and you have interest in coming. I know we're sold out, but let's give out two on the show today. What do we think, Blake? Is that a good idea?
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Speaker 4: I think that's great. Uh, Okay, you're gonna have to run this lottery because I don't know how how those were going to do it.
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Speaker 5: I have I have several friends who have now not necessarily come out of the woodwork, but in the last couple of weeks, like, hey, how do we get tickets to Amfest?
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Speaker 6: Help me to email freedom at Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 5: That is literally the only way you can do it, because I kind of text back or say back laughingly, you can't. It is speaking sold out and sold out is probably even an understatement because I think capacity limits are probably yeah concern.
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Speaker 6: You know, Elon Musk, is this true that he quote tweeted you?
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Speaker 2: He did?
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Speaker 8: Wow?
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Speaker 4: That was really what did you What did he quote you about? Well?
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Speaker 5: I was talking about some of the percentages. Do we have that clip of the percentages? This is such a good well I might be able to pull it for later on the show, but I effectively was outlining some of the lower percentages of Somali immigrants in other countries in other.
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Speaker 4: All right, we actually have that, we have this, We got it. Let's do three three seven.
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Speaker 5: When people criticize Somali foreigners in Western countries, here are a few things to keep in mind. In Norway twenty seven, percent of Somali born households do not rely mainly on government assistants. In Sweden, thirty six percent of Somali born adults are either employed or in education. In Denmark, thirty one percent of Somali immigrants and their descendants are not on public benefits. These are just a couple things to remember during the discussion of whether or not we should let more Third worlders in the United States.
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Speaker 4: I hope this helps, so Elon Musk, the world's richest man. He replied to that he kind of. He may weigh it in his head, and he replied, put up three three six. He replied, woow.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm just so grateful that he understood the sarcasm of it. Yes, because I think I got. I got the overwhelming majority of people understood, Oh, these are very low numbers, and yeah, and and maybe it's not advantageous to let a bunch of Third worlders into Western countries.
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Speaker 4: It was the music for me. We've already got a few entries in the Amfest two ticket lottery, so.
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Speaker 6: Keep emailing Charliekirk dot com.
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Speaker 5: Oh that the odds are pretty good.
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Speaker 4: The odds are great, and it's only paying attention and you're able to get here. Oh wow, this is very.
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Speaker 5: Good odds, that's that's fantastic. Uh there, I mean to go back to that fun little internet video. There was a little bit of concern of the sarcasm not reaching everybody entirely. There were a bunch of there were not a bunch, maybe like five or six comments that go, wait a minute, these numbers are terrible. Yeah, what are you talking? Why is this lib trying to push his ideology on me?
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Speaker 4: And I kind of said that this is why we need Club America, because, among other things you can learn through Club of America is how to make good arguments to be America first, to be pro America.
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Speaker 5: And to do it with sarcasm said, and to do it with.
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Speaker 4: Wit and humor. And you know, maybe if you have a big enough chapter, you could have Joe Bob come to your chapter one day. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, all right, fine, fine, bye my mind.
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Speaker 4: All right, so we're all at We're getting a ton of emails, very excited about the about these ancest tickets. Well, we'll choose one before probably at the end of the hour, man, and at the hour we'll see. But one of those people who asked Jessica says she would love two tickets to Amfest. But she also said something that is very important. She wanted us to shout out that she's planning an event with TP Action in Indiana because she says two of the Trader state senators in her county didn't vote for a very important bill yesterday. We've talked about this a lot on the show. YEP, Indiana, we've got President Trump has been whipping Republicans across the country. Redo your maps, get more Republicans elected to Congress. This is important for executing the agenda I got elected on Indiana voted for Trump by about twenty points. Yep. They voted for him an all three elections. The base seems to like this, but the Indiana senators do not know, and so they didn't they voted on it yesterday. There is a there are forty Republican aligned senators in the state. They needed twenty and they got nineteen twenty. One of them failed us. So we're going to talk about this with Tyler Boyer, who is joining us long distance. Are you there, Tyler?
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Speaker 2: So, guys, how are you doing well?
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Speaker 4: We're not doing great right now. These Indiana guys failed us, didn't they?
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Speaker 8: Oh Man, Yesterday was a dark day for Indiana, probably one of the worst days of the most embarrassing days Indiana has had since it voted for Obama in the first selection. And you can see why you have some slippage in the state because you're surrounded by really terrible Republicans who make really terrible decisions. The bill that was being produced was a pretty straightforward bill. It was to offset the manipulation schemes that are being run by Democrats nationwide and.
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Speaker 2: States that are are less deep blue.
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Speaker 8: There are hijacking congressional seats in Indiana. Indiana's one of the unique states that kind of made a mistake last redistricting, and they gave two seats to Democrats that many argued were not really justified. Indiana is one of the deepest reddest states in the country, and there are many arguments to be made for a nine to zero Republican map, and so naturally the president's team said, hey, you know that now's the time to go back and redistrict and look at this thing and get us a nine oh map instead of a seven to two Republican seven Democrat IWO map that currently exists, because we need you to step up.
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Speaker 2: And so they produced the bill.
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Speaker 8: The grassroots, the entire Republican Party across the country and across Indiana supports this. All of the polling shows seventy to eighty percent of Republicans support this.
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Speaker 2: It's a no brainer. And yesterday was the time.
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Speaker 8: To shine for the Senate Democrat or Senate Republicans, and they showed up and they needed twenty five, as you mentioned, Blake, our twenty six votes to pass it, and only nineteen voted for it, twenty one voted against it.
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Speaker 4: All right, I want to get Joe, Bob and Mike in here, but revery quick, because Charlie would do this. We need some just direct accountability. Let's throw up three twenty six. And if you're a Hoosier, pay attention to this because these might be your senators. These are the Republicans who did not vote for this new district. We're just going to go through them. We have Senators Eric Bassler, we have Vanetta Becker, we have Mike Bohachek, we have Roderick Bray, Brian Buchanan, Jim buck Ed Scharboneau, Brett Clark, Mike Krider, Spencer Deary, Dan Dernalk, Blake, Doria Ooh letting me down on the Blakes, Sue Glick, Greg Good, Travis Holdman, gen Lysing, Ryan Mischler, Rickniemeyer, Linda Rodgers, Kyle Walker, and Greg Walker. I apologize if I missed any of those names, but if you'd voted with us, we wouldn't be reading them.
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Speaker 2: You did pretty good, Blake.
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Speaker 8: And there's a couple of people to really point out here that are in deep deep red, like we're talking twenty to thirty.
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Speaker 2: Point Trump districts.
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Speaker 8: A couple of them, Senator Durnal are spelled Drnalk with the C at the end. Dan Durnal was one of those individuals. Great good. Who is a person that has has who works currently for you as senator.
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Speaker 2: Senator Ryan Mischler was actually in Florida.
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Speaker 8: He spends so much time outside of the state that he actually had he missed a couple of the votes missed a lot. This is a lot actually the state in the n because he spends most of his time in the state of Florida instead of being there voting. Linda Rogers actually is in our TPUSA Faith Pastors district that he lives in in Indiana. So I mean, you've got a couple of people here that this This isn't one of those things too, because there's a handful of people here that are in you could argue swing districts or fairly Republican districts, but vast majority of these individuals are in districts that are deeply, deeply conservative, and it won't be difficult to challenge and get them out of office. So we've actually posted jobs already yesterday the moment that they voted.
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Speaker 2: Turning Point Action posted.
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Speaker 8: Five jobs yesterday on our website tpaction dot com slash careers. We're hiring up people to actually help recruit and hold these guys accountable because their election is on May fifth, The primary election for most of these individuals is on May fifth, or we're going to be hopefully getting many of these people out of office.
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Speaker 5: Tyler. I think if we're going to zoom out thirty thousand feet here and look at kind of the primary causes as to why some of these squishy Republicans don't want to side with their constituents. But also the president is some of these people have been in office for thirty years. In the Indiana State Legislature, they don't have term limits there, and so they're concerned, well, what if I lose my seat that I've kept for thirty years? In your opinion, would having kind of term limits in this instance maybe get some of those more squishy people to go, you know, I'm out anyway, I might as well do what the do what the people want.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, there's different reasons why people are motivated. Sometimes it's you've got like really creepy insider type stuff where there's some kind of lobbyist or some kind of local corporation that's keeping somebody in that's funded their life like all throughout, so they're not really beholden to the people or the president or anyone else to behold into these very specific special interests that are super and hyper local. And that's why you see most of these guys in most of these states kind of go against what you would because you look at this situation, right, Joe Bobby, you go, how's the US President, the President of the United States, the Vice president United States more in tune with what the grassroots and what the people of Indiana want than their own state senator that lives around the corner from them.
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Speaker 2: And it's it's truly mind numbing.
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Speaker 8: But when you start to look introspectively, like like we're talking about here, and you start to discover, oh, well, there's one or two key lobbyists that have been funding their way of life. You know, there's state dinners there. You know, there's special events that they get to do, you know, the things that keep them warm and cuggly. Sometimes it's land developers. Sometimes it's again different interests. You know, there's hospital lobbies, there's education lobbies, there's all sorts of each of these people typically have one or two of those that make them tick and that's who they respond to. One guy got up yesterday and actually talked about this. You know, this is how mind mind blowing it is. He talked about the pharmaceutical lobby and that's the reason why he was voting no. Well, you know that very company that he had brought up had been benefited most greatly by the present in the United States and the work that he had done on Behalf and with bringing back a ton of business and a ton of interest for the United States, particularly in the pharmaceuticals area. And that's just how mind blowingly dumb some of these state senators are. And they don't care. They have no interest at all in getting it right. They just want to try to run over their own people and benefit their their own pockets and their own boats.
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Speaker 4: Mike, you travel a lot with Charlie, so you were with him. I think when he'd meet a lot of the you know, like for example, when he went to Nebraska and he had to lobby these people. Do you have any insight on what's going on with these people? Is it just that they're they're very local and how they view everything.
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Speaker 6: I just think they're very weak people in general.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna mark these the terrible twenty one, very shameful shame on them.
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Speaker 2: I guess.
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Speaker 5: That's good shame.
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Speaker 3: No, But in all seriousness, traveling with Charlie, you see all these people, even Nebraska when we were trying to get that electoral vote there in Omaha. They're just weak and they think they know more about the world because the world is in need of their very small because their.
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Speaker 4: World is their state house, their little rivalries, their little grievances, or they're mad Trump didn't you know he bashed them on this specific thing. That's Trump. Get used to it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then but they're very stubborn and because they that is their world, they can they refuse to think outside of the box, or to think bigger than their small jurisdiction that they're in, or be a team player or a coalition builder. But Tyler, you see this all the time, Like you see this turning point action. There's so many state senators, there's so many congressmen, there's so many people like this that just refuse to think outside of the jurisdiction of their own mind and local community or what they care about most.
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Speaker 6: It's hard to see.
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Speaker 8: Yeah. Keep in mind too, a lot of these people are influenced, unfortunately by the mind control schemes of the former Pence relationships. So you know, yeah, so remember we knew this was going to play a factor. I mean, Mike Pence is looking at his wounds after getting kicked to the curb by Maga and by the president by everybody because of the way that he acted after the twenty twenty election, and many of these people kind of had this this mental thing where they thought that Mike Pence was going to be president someday, and now they're kind of, you know, kind of brought her over this whole thing of, oh, well, I'm not going to ever help the president ever again, because you know, because Mike Pence isn't going to be president someday.
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Speaker 4: Make a bad joke. They're being Pence wise and pound foolish. I had to say it.
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Speaker 4: We're talking all about Indiana and the Great Disappointment.
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Speaker 5: I was wondering where you're going to.
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Speaker 2: Go with that.
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Speaker 5: You said the great great disappointment.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I disappointed you with my rhetoric, just like they disappointed us with their votes. We have a good email. We have an email from Jason in Indiana. He says, I am in a big union here, the local one fifty. He says, the leadership of my union was against but I was not. I contacted. I believe it means Governor Braun in favor. He says. They are rhinos who want the country club. They want the power, they want the money. They don't like the mega movement, but this is too important. The country is at stake. Sad day, Amen, Jason. What I've really tried to say here is I think some people just didn't like that President Trump picked this fight that he askually they wanted. You know, we have this tradition you read district at every decade and you don't mess with it in the middle, and you don't maximize that. You tend to leave a few seats for each party. And Trump his nature is he's going to go for the maximum advantage. And some people didn't like that. And okay, you didn't like that, too bad, that fight happened. California's already their map, Maryland redid their map. You have to play ball now or you're you're deserting the cause.
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Speaker 5: Well, and yeah, if you want the policy that you want past, you have to win seats. And if other states are taking away those seats, what other option is there to make sure that you get those seats back?
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Speaker 4: Exactly, And we have a razor within House majority. If you don't have the House after the midterms, you still have a lot of things your administration can do. But you're a weaker. You can't pass an immigration reform, you can't pass ice expansion, you can't control what's getting investigated by the House. You could get impeachment one, impeachment two, impeachment ten. That's what's at stake here for a candidate they voted for overwhelmingly. We need to hold accountable these Republicans. And I know it stinks. It's sort of annoying that we are spending money fighting against other Republicans, But there's just this element where you said, hold the right ball, or we're going to primary. You do have to primary them now, or your threats don't hold water.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And this is the problem right that exists is that these guys are so selfish that but what was said to them was very clear, which is like, hey, we're going to be successful at primary and you if you do not help us in this battle against Gavin Newsom.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Gavin Newsom.
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Speaker 8: Is on the pathway right now to being the nominee for twenty twenty eight. And if Indiana State senators won't step up to challenge the guy who we're going to all be running against in twenty twenty eight, I mean, they just have no place within this party. And that's not speaking from Trump, that's not speaking from jd. Vance, that's not speaking from turning Point. That's speaking from the grassroots that you know, vast majority of people agree with that sentiment that are.
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Speaker 2: Within the Republican Party.
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Speaker 8: So our job now has to be to expend resources to follow through is what the majority, the vast majority of people want is to get rid of these people. Now, what that means is that resources that otherwise would have been spent to help defend or take ground in Congress in other states now has to be expended in deep red Indiana to hold our own people accountable. So we're having to fight not only the Democrats in other states and swing states, which we're doing in Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire and other places, we now have to fight our own deep state establishment in Indiana. So you're having to fight a two front battle at this point. And unfortunately that is the way that it is. But if they just worked together with people, if they would have just voted yes yesterday, all those resources could have gone into helping the rest of the country, helping lay the foundation.
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Speaker 2: To win in twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 4: Ryan asks if they could revote on this in Indiana. I believe in technically they could any time. The governor could call the legislature back together and they could do it. I doubt they will unless they feel strongly that they have the votes to flip it. So the main way you revote on this is you get better senators. And they've greatly disappointed us this time, but you could potentially get a better roster for twenty eight, for twenty thirty and beyond.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, primary election are May fifth in Indiana, and so there's only a handful of months left at this point with individuals who will be stepping into the pocket to run against these individuals, and then for the general public to become educated enough to vote them out. Obviously, it's not you're never one hundred percent. It was probably going to be a combination effort between now and twenty twenty six and then twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Eight as well. But yeah, I mean, the likelihood.
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Speaker 8: With this current legislature in Indiana of getting anything done that's going to help the president is basically they're telling you it's a zero.
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Speaker 2: They're not interested with the president.
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Speaker 4: Kathy, a lifetime Indiana Republican, says I am furious our centators. You can get this through, She says. The problem is no one will run against them. I jokingly said I should run as a retired teacher, greatly disappointed one. If you feel tempted to run, Kathy, don't let that just die. You're a retired teacher. Maybe you do have you might have potential as a candidate. But Tyler, she says, no one's going to run against them. I don't that that's not true.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we already have pretty much this full slate of people who are good people who want to run against these individuals, many of whom serve on the House side currently. So remember there's a House and there's a Senate. There's some good candidates that already exist on the House side who are willing to step up and run against these senators. And again, we've been in these situations before here in Arizona. We ran after Arizona State senators voted for Obamacare and Medicaid expansion way back in the day. We went to work against millions of dollars to remove those people from office, and.
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Speaker 2: All of them were removed from office almost immediately.
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Speaker 8: So I have a I do have a belief that a core amount of people in Indiana will do the right thing and get together and vote on their normal primary day to get rid of these people. It just again, it just sucks that you have to spend time and money and resources as outside organizations as the president's team, instead of focusing on the places that we need to win in order to keep.
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Speaker 5: Congress Teller, I would probably say, and pardon me for being the ever optimist. Obviously this is not good. But if I were to find a silver lining here, the more that TP action is successful at primarying a bunch of these squishy Republicans, I feel like the more the message is received elsewhere. This is not going to be the only time stuff like this happens around the country. But seeing how successful Turning Point Action has been, that's going to reverberate for election cycles to come, and I would hope that sooner or later the squishy Republicans get the message, Oh, this is actually going to be a bigger problem for me if we don't do what the people want.
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