California's Cash for Ballots Fraud Exposed + AMA 259
The Charlie Kirk ShowMarch 27, 202601:22:4037.88 MB

California's Cash for Ballots Fraud Exposed + AMA 259

Blue cities have been annoying for a long time. Now, they are disintegrating in a blizzard of fraud, crime, and decay. TPUSA Frontlines' Jonathan Choe talks about the state of LA, and the show talks about obviously Chinese drones targeting a U.S. base. Then, the team takes another hour of subscriber questions, including:

 

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00:00:03 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start at turning point you would say, college chapter. 00:00:33 Speaker 2: Go start atturning point. Yould say high school chapter. 00:00:35 Speaker 1: Go find out how your church can get involved. 00:00:37 Speaker 3: Sign up and become an activist. 00:00:39 Speaker 1: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 00:00:45 Speaker 4: Here I am. 00:00:46 Speaker 2: Lord, Use me. 00:00:48 Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 3: All right, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. March twenty seven, twenty six It was great having Molly Hemingway, Sean Davis, and Megan Basham all in studio yesterday. 00:01:20 Speaker 5: That was great. It was just move them here permanently. 00:01:23 Speaker 3: I totally agree. But if you miss those episodes, check them out on the podcast. Absolutely do that. We'll have some news a little later on the podcast as well. Listen. We have woke up this morning to a dead of night passage of a partial DHS funding bill. This is, according to Representative Keith self, good dude turning point, an action endorsed in the dead of night, with only five Senators present on the floor and no one there to object, the Senate rushed through a DHS funding bill that deliberately left ICE and CBP unfunded. Now they are leaving town. No Save America Act, ICE, CBP unfunded. Senate Republicans just gave the Democrats everything they wanted and more. That's coming again from Keith self. Greg Stuby says, of course, Leader Thune and the Senate Rhinos cave to Democrats who refused to fund ICE and CBP. The American people gave us the House, the Senate, and the White House, and we still can't pass a bill to fund all of DHS, so pretty disappointing result at last night. It's failure theater. And by the way, there was all this talk about staying through the easter recess never getting this done. No, they've all left. Well, here's the only problem. House Republicans, it seems like, are signaling to Senate Republicans you better get a return ticket, better come back to DC, because I don't think that they are going to fund this. I don't think they're going to pass this bill. So the only way that it passes, which is a possibility, is of a bunch of Democrats get on board with it. So we're going to see how this plays out. But exactly my thought, failure theater. Once again, we have weak leadership in the Senate. You know, I do want to give some sort of grace to the good guys in the Senate, because when you have fifty three votes that may seem like a lot, it's not a lot because of the darn filibuster and only takes three squishy people, and it's a it's a frustration. 00:03:27 Speaker 5: But I'm not even gonna say because of the filibuster. The filibuster exists to protect the majority from votes that doesn't want to take. 00:03:35 Speaker 2: I agree. 00:03:35 Speaker 5: That is why it exists, the filibuster. The primary beneficiary of the filibuster are people like Mitch McConnell, people like John Thune who want a ready made excuse for why they haven't delivered on anything their party has run on and promised in twenty years. Because we've been getting promises of serious immigration reform for twenty years. We've getting promises on all manner of things, election reform, all of that, and then they just go, oh, well, you know, unfortunately, we just can't pass this until you give us. Really, we're gonna probably need like sixty four votes because you know, you lose a Republican here and there. Well, we're never going to get sixty four senators. It's not the nineteen thirties. 00:04:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, you want to depress turnout for the midterms, this is exactly how you do it. I'm telling you, this is a five alarm fire for anybody who will listen, whether that's in the ADMIN leadership, you are depressing turnout. You've got Joe Rogan calling you a bunch of dorks, Enthusiasm waning, you've got an Iran situation where you've got reports now from axios that were preparing potentially up to ten thousand more troops to send it to the Middle East. If you are not going to deliver on domestic policy promises that you ran on, that people voted for you on, you are going to lose those voters. It is that simple. So Senate Republicans pass the Save America Act. Do whatever it takes. You are destroying the chances of Republicans in the midterms. You're absolutely destroying the chances. And why not if we're going to do all the work to send you to Washington to get simple things done, common sense legislation done, and you cannot find a way and all you do is raise excuse after excuse, then don't be surprised when people don't show up for you. Don't be surprised when the people online that used to cheer you on and get out the vote for you get so frustrated that they don't want to do it anymore. We are at that point where it's going to be impossible to make the case for you if you don't get certain basic things done, and you're leaving people like us on this show completely holding the bag. So I encourage House Republicans deny, reject this awful deal, get back to work, do whatever it takes. I don't care if you can't sleep for a month and a half. That's your job. And if you don't do it, you're you're dooming everybody. You're doing the country, You're dooming Western civilization. Because not only are the Republicans the last bastion of anything sensible and good potentially in America, the Conservative movement in the United States is the last bastion of hope and freedom for the entire Western civilization. The stakes could literally not be higher. I don't know, can you make the case? Can you make the case to send these guys back when they can't even go? 00:06:31 Speaker 5: I mean, in general, a frustrating thing with politics is you think of I like to make the comparison to professional sports because it's something Americans actually care about. And when you have a NFL team and it's during the season, like how hard how hard is your team expected to work? They're expected to practice pretty intensely, They're expected to take it pretty seriously. Yeah, and if you don't, you tend to like wash out on your team. And I just feel like the state for the country are pretty high and it would make a lot of sense to have lawmakers be pretty committed to being there all the time and getting things done, and if you don't want to do it, we can replace you with a lawmaker who will do that. And instead we just have these barnacles on the American body politic. They have basically allowed Congress to become this inert entity that never passes anything useful and repeatedly disappoints. I think a question I'm asking and everyone asking, is wait, I thought the entire justification for the one big beautiful bill last summer was, oh, it has this unprecedented funding for ice and border security, and then actually, six months later, Democrats in the minority can just kind of make you reverse tack on that. And also would I would be remiss if I didn't mention that a lot of the guys who are stampeding towards giving the Democrats everything they want on this are also the same ones who are the source of so much of our other political difficulty. These they're the ones who are the most avid that, oh, we need boots on the ground in an we need to have maximal intervention there. Well, whether that's a good idea or not, it's pretty clear that's going to be politically a politically difficult sell in the midterms. And so you're stacking all these things on top of each other, and what do they have to offer, basically just that Democrats are evil and bad, which they are, but people are going to vote for them. If you are not offering a good alternative. 00:08:21 Speaker 3: If you want to depress turnout in the midterms, keep doing the same thing, keep doing the exact same thing that you're doing right now. Because right now I'm looking at a situation where we have Chapter presidents and they're tabling all over the country and they can't defend these actions. They're getting approached by liberals that are calling out the hypocrisy of this garbage. And guess what, there's some truth to it. Make it so that we have something to argue that actually holds weight. Make it so that we have something to defend that actually is worth defending. Because right now we're just getting failure theater. We're getting no results, we're getting nothing that makes sense, nothing at all. So go back, go to work, go back to DC, show us you care. Exhaust yourself on the floor, faint in the middle of the floor, in the middle of the speech, because you've been doing it so long, I don't care. Do something, do something that we can defend right now is like Mike Lee and Eric Schmidt, and. 00:09:22 Speaker 5: That's what we got. 00:09:24 Speaker 3: So let's hit this, Blake. We're not getting our domestic agenda passed, and on top of that, it seems like, you know, we're marching into potential of boots on the ground. Okay, I want to get your thoughts on this in the audience. Please email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Blake's gonna break down what the newest news is and I want to hear your thoughts Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. We have obviously been whatever about a month then maybe a little less. And now we've got the eighty second Airborne mobilized, probably already there. We've got some marines being mobilized now. Axios has a new report of up to ten thousand troops being mobile one thousand additional try we want to He's gonna break it down. I want to hear your thoughts. 00:10:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's well, it's just it's all again. This is one of the toughest conflicts to cover because President Trump has an unusual negotiating style, so he's constantly signaling he might escalate, he might de escalate. Iran is difficult to read because a lot of their leaders are dead. They're often you know, running a double game. 00:10:31 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:10:31 Speaker 5: And on top of that you just have you have different media operations. It's very clear, for example, that Israel is more hawkish overall than President Trump is, and so like they want to egg him on to extend the war, escalate the war. Others are trying to. So there's all sorts of maneuvers going on. And the truth is, we don't know exactly what the plan is, but it does seem like to be frank, we are taking steps towards a course of action that we warned about the very day that the first strike started, mom when it was a Saturday, and we talked about it here, which is at that time it was a purely aerial campaign, and we said, we have to worry about whether you start getting into this pattern of steady, step by step escalation where they say if you send in a few of these troops and take a few of these places, that's going to resolve it. So now we're it's almost everyone's talking. Oh, they might take carg Island, they might take these other idley this. 00:11:29 Speaker 3: Is exactly how this happens. Yes, this is you're you're the history buff here. Do you see parallels? I'm not saying there are, but let's just and I think this is a completely different situation. I'm not saying what I'm about to say. I'm just drawing a slight parallel Vietnam. 00:11:45 Speaker 5: Vietnam it started with a few advisors and a few and then it was eventually I think we peaked at about eight hundred thousand soldiers. Yeah, and there was a draft it was, yes, but this is we're not getting close to that, even though to pick a more comparable one, Afghanistan. Afghanistan started with no US troops involved other than a handful of Special forces. They helped the Northern Alliance overthrow the Taliban. It was basically airpower and a few Special forces guys. And then after that happened, this was two thousand and one, two thousand and two, we have that George W. Bush ere at Walla. You know, we have this obligation towards nation building, so we start sending a few thousand soldiers where Taliban's not defeated we're training them, we're building schools, and then by the time we get to Obama, they're they're selling this idea, well, we need a troop surge in Afghanistan and if we do a troop surge, that'll be able to get in order. Yeah, like we did in Iraq. And it actually worked better in Iraq because it at least had a much more clear objective and you know, it's a more urban society. But in Afghanistan they just kind of threw money at the problem, threw troops at the problem, but they didn't fix the fundamental issue of how do we define are what's our objective, what does victory actually look like, how do we get there? It was just sort of have troops there, get in fights with the Taliban and hope it were out. And what we have to worry about is there certainly are factions within our own government that would just love to see an Iraq style conflict with Iran. They might they won't say that, but they'd love to see it. And what they'll sell to people is this line of oh, you know, yeah, if you if you send a few troops here, that's that's gonna make the regime collapse. And when it doesn't, they'll you know, it's it's like a Heroin dealer and they'll say, you're one. 00:13:29 Speaker 3: Minute, so you might as well like see it all the way through, so just do a little bit more and then just oh, we're almost there. We promised, just if you could add this little element here. And this is why regime change in the Middle East is so fraught. And I get it. The the they want the people to rise up, they want the marching in the streets. I think that was kind of one of these indicators that helped lead to this escalation. And I want to just get President Trump as due here. He has not shown any indication through past operations to be into the idea of a long drawn out quagmire. He's not that kind of president. We're getting indications earlier in the week that where there was positivity that this was going to be wrapping up soon. But now we're getting indications that could be ten thousand more combat troops in the Middle East. And we have this report from Reuter's exclusive. Now it's Reuter's, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've been hearing similar things, so it's fascinating. US can only confirm about a third of Iran's missile arsenal is destroyed. Sources say, well, that's problematic. Now, maybe the answer to that is that the military has taken out a bunch of their ability to shoot said missiles. So okay, so maybe that's a good thing. The point is, I've been hearing similar rumors that there is stockpile leftover that you know, we don't know about all of this to say, we are creating the conditions where you got Apparently gas in Los Angeles is over eight dollars a gallon. Now a Los Angeles does some of this harm to themselves, But what is it like five in Phoenix right now? It's about five bucks? 00:15:10 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:15:11 Speaker 3: And yeah, there's places where it's higher, places where it's lower. That's gonna just be a drag. If you want to hear about low numbers with Hispanics, that's gonna be one of them, all right. That's gonna be one of the driving factors here. 00:15:23 Speaker 5: A year ago, if you wanted to lay out a situation for electoral disaster for the Republican Party, it would include open ended, expensive war in the Middle East. 00:15:34 Speaker 3: With few or little focus. Ostensibly, Now there is things happening behind the scenes. We're not trying to blackpil here. There's a lot of good that has been done, but we're not talking about it enough because we've got a war in Iran and now we might be sending ground troops the exact thing that we sort of promised the country was not gonna happen under President Trump. 00:15:55 Speaker 5: What's so said is we actually genuinely have a lot to be proud of. Domestic totally in fact, constant new stuff. It's like Texas has Texas isn't giving licenses to illegals. 00:16:03 Speaker 3: We just we just denaturalized a couple of criminals. 00:16:07 Speaker 5: Denaturalizing citizens. We're sending ice agents to break up these employee companies that only employ illegals. We've done great stuff on the border. We're suing medical schools for fraud too much. They're actually doing tons of great stuff. The focus, the focus will be on that if the focus is not overseas. 00:16:27 Speaker 3: Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth through Hillsdale College's free online courses. He studied the great works of the Classics, the principles of the American Founding, and the life changing truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him, they shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he took was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale professor doctor Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between God and man, what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path toward reconciliation. It's a real college course, rigorous, thoughtful, and accessible to anyone willing to learn. You can take the very same course completely free. Grow stronger in your faith, gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world. Prepare yourself for a life with courage and conviction. Visit Charlie for Hillsdale dot com to enroll today. That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. Learn Deeply, Lead boldly, Carry it forward. Jonathan Choe is an absolute legend. We love this guy. He does great work out in the field and uh doing work for Turning Point USA tposa frontlines reporter. He's been working with Cam Higbee and a lot of others exposing fraud in California. Jonathan Choe, you can find him at the Chow Show on X I recommend you follow this guy. He's doing, like I said, amazing work. Welcome to the show. Hey guys, how you doing doing great? So you have been doing some investigative journalism, the real stuff out in California. Why don't you set the stage for us? And we've got a bunch of clips here. 00:18:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this has now been going on for two weeks. It's a joint investigation with multiple independent journalists including James O'Keeffe, our own Savannah Hernandez, Brandon dre as well as muck rackers Anthony Rubin and Cam Higbee as you mentioned, and we've been essentially doing a swarm on LA's skid row. This is a human dumping ground homeless drug addicts, and what we've essentially uncovered is that ballot petition gatherers are now paying these people on the streets for their signatures for all kinds of what we believe is voter fraud. 00:18:45 Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and play one of these clips that you have provided show, just because I think it's shocking when you see it. Actually play at you. And this is real evidence ten. 00:18:56 Speaker 1: Registering people to vote in exchange for money. 00:19:00 Speaker 6: And I went under cover and witnessed multiple instances of ballot initiative workers. 00:19:05 Speaker 5: I want to get five bucks. I heard I can get five. 00:19:07 Speaker 6: Bucks paying cash to homeless drug addicts for their signatures, a felony level crime according to California law. 00:19:15 Speaker 1: Every single homeless person of skid Row that we asked is aware. 00:19:18 Speaker 5: That this is happening. 00:19:19 Speaker 6: But this guy took it to another level. No, he wanted us to sign these initiatives using other people's names and home addresses. My name is John name, which is identity fraud, another felony. When I showed hesitation, listen to what he had to say. 00:19:41 Speaker 3: Walk us through what was happening there, Jonathan Choe. 00:19:45 Speaker 4: So, as you can tell, Cam and I were essentially hanging around the corner of San Pedro and Seventh and skid Row and we see a group of guys with clipboards and on those clipboards are the ballot initiatives and they were intentionally targeting homeless drug addicts. We walked up to them and out of nowhere, they say, hey, do you want to sign? 00:20:08 Speaker 2: And you know I say sure. 00:20:10 Speaker 4: They asked me if I'm registered to vote, because that's bare minimum requirement. Clearly I say no, but it didn't matter. Instead, I proceed to try and sign my actual name. I say my name is John, and they're like no, no, no, no, we don't want you to sign John. And then he asked me do you have a conscience? Essentially, do you have a conscience? What was happening was that not only were they having me sign this ballot initiative for money, they were having me sign under someone else's name. 00:20:37 Speaker 2: So not only are the homeless. 00:20:38 Speaker 4: Drug addicts the victims here, there are actual victims of identity fraud. 00:20:43 Speaker 3: So then you actually interviewed, it looks like a whistleblower that knows something about this nine. 00:20:50 Speaker 1: How do you decide whether somebody uses their name or somebody else's name. 00:20:54 Speaker 7: Well, I asked some questions like want of you resila vote? And if they remember some like oh, then I'm like I just let them go. You know what I mean, I'll let them sign, but they don't remember? Are they from out of state? The game beinging guys, they'll give us, they'll give us, you know, a list of names. I'm not a list, but they're writing on a piece of paper or whatever and I just gave it so, you know, so. 00:21:16 Speaker 5: When they pull the people's names. 00:21:18 Speaker 7: They get it from the registration office. They pay a lot of money from the registration office. 00:21:24 Speaker 8: Directly, like the state Yeah wow really yeah, and. 00:21:28 Speaker 7: The restrictions office corrupt, but it's legal, so they. 00:21:30 Speaker 5: Can just pull Is it like a voter registration or d MP or something. 00:21:33 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's a voter registration office. 00:21:36 Speaker 5: Oh oh, they get it right from the from thew. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: BRO. This is crazy, like the level of organization and coordination, the fact that this is so many people seem to know about it. We're just now finding out, this is the thing. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, so many things going on over there. 00:21:52 Speaker 4: In that whistle blower interview, First of all, these bad actors are using the danger and risk of going into skid row as cover. They know city and state officials aren't going to go in. There's barely any law enforcement. So again they've been operating with total impunity. So this has not been going on for the just the last two weeks. It's been going on for years, according to people on the ground. That whistleblower was also alleging that there are Democrats involved in this along with gang bangers. I'm talking about local LA gang bangers. And this is where it got really murky and sensitive. He didn't want to name anything, any of the actual gangs or the people behind it because he was afraid for his own safety in life. He took an enormous risk talking to us. At the same time, he's one of the few now that are starting to flip because he's had a crisis of conscience because once we got the footage of all of this undercover signature gathering happening, you know, cash for ballots, he kind of started to realize he's in big trouble. He's either going to get outed one way or the other, so he might as well talk right now. So he's led us, you know, a lot of evidence. We have a lot of this on camera, so it's not really up to local officials and state officials Governor Gavin Newsom Attorney General Rob Bonta to finally take action. And they've said they've started an investigation, but we don't have any timelines for arrests or charges. 00:23:15 Speaker 5: Now, well, I think that that's a pattern we've seen over and over. You can produce a lot of evidence, and as long as it's in the state's hands, they could say, oh, it's under investigation, and then you can just play it out, draw it out, and eventually nothing happens. I mean, it's California. They're professionals at this. I can't I'll be blunt. I can't imagine that a system that organized with that many people in on it exists without them having pretty high confidence no one's ever going to do anything about it. It's just like the hospice fraud that's happening a few miles to the north of skid Row, where when you have seventy fraudulent hospices in a single building, they are operating with the assumption the state knows what we're doing and they don't care. 00:23:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, that line total impunity stands out show because it just feels like the problems in this state are so huge, and it's so vast, and there's so many people corrupt and corrupted within the system that nobody's going to be held accountable, is what it feels like. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake, Andrew, that's what we're concerned about. 00:24:14 Speaker 4: This one party rule controlling every aspect of this investigation. And again, this has now been going on for two weeks. James O'Keefe's crew and the rest of the independent journalists. We're calling ourselves the Citizen Justice League. We're gonna put out a video story every single day until someone gets arrested and we see charges. 00:24:35 Speaker 2: But that's the concern right now. 00:24:37 Speaker 4: How long is it gonna take to actually, you know, bring somebody to account, even after presenting all of this evidence. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: We got more footage here, so I want to play it. This is a California Democrat lawmaker. Let me just play the clip. I know who's saying it. Eleven. 00:24:54 Speaker 6: Our team immediately notified authorities, including Governor Gavin Newsom and Attorney General. 00:25:00 Speaker 9: They do not have that authority. 00:25:02 Speaker 6: They responded by saying this would be investigated. 00:25:04 Speaker 1: These people are just continuing the cycle of harm and suffering on these people so they can manipulate them for political gain. 00:25:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that stands out. That's it's sort of been what I've been thinking this whole time, is they're taking advantage of drug addicts, the mentally ill, the homeless, the impoverished, the desperate, and they're just using them in ponds in this sort of like you said, one party rule state to further and transfer own power. So this is the this is the big rub right that you're asking California Democrats to investigate something that's not in their best interest to snuff out. 00:25:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is happening. And I don't know if you guys have personally been to skid Row. You guys have seen the images for years and now I've been there it Yeah, it's guys. Then you know it's the entire area again as I refer to it as a human dumping ground. It's also where all of the social service agencies nonprofits funded by taxpayers are cons traded and based. So all of this is happening right there. And these nonprofits what I call and refer to as Homeless Inc. They allegedly are supposed to be there to take care of these vulnerable men and women. But my question is how have they allowed this to go on for so many years now without sounding the alarm. So it's not just the lawmakers here who need to be held to account or law enforcement, but we've got to be asking questions about the others in the area who I believe are in on this grift. 00:26:32 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, And I think you zoom out to the bigger picture. We get a lot of emails from people asking, you know, can we save California? And we would love it if California could be saved. But you really have to appreciate kind of the scale of the atrocity that they have enacted, which is to have they have a blob of thousands, tens of thousands of people who are basically impossible to track, which they can use as a vote bank, as a fraud deposit. You know, you can dump forty billion dollars in homeless funding on them and it'll show no impact whatsoever. Somebody's getting that money and they just have built this like perfect machine. Meanwhile, if you check other headlines, I think they've stopped repaving roads in Los Angeles because that was proving too expensive. You know, they'll dump one hundred billion dollars in that high speed rail and that's never going to get built. It's there's something really dark about it, and I feel like it'll never get fixed unless the federal government were able to find a nice, sustained way to imprison a very large number of people there. And I don't even know if this admin has them. 00:27:38 Speaker 3: It's like forty billion dollars, if it's like, however, many billions that have been dumped into this homeless crisis and it just persists there. It doesn't seem like there's any will to actually clean it up, remove them, forcibly, off the streets so that you can't be taking advantage of them like this, so that they don't live in squalor. Do you see any indications, Jonathan Choe, I mean a way from the fraud with the ballots and the cash Forboults, that people are actually being helped down there. 00:28:06 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:28:06 Speaker 4: Look, the only saving grace here, quite frankly, is I think we've lost all faith in California officials. But the FEDS are aware, and so it was the Trump administration. They've acknowledged what's happening happening here. They're aware of our investigation. And I've also talked to my sources at the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. They're the ones funding these homeless nonprofits and they're scrutinizing again the money. Now, this is all about the money trail. Once that stops flowing into this area, I believe a lot of this fraud could stop as well. 00:28:35 Speaker 3: That's encouraging. Yeah, And Scott Turner is a great guy. He's a fantastic man. Jonathan Choe TPOSA Frontlines. Great job. I'm excited to see this coalition of these journalists coming together, and I know you guys have plans to do this repeatedly throughout the year, So keep up the great work. Jonathan Choe TPOSA Frontlines. Check them out on x at Chow Show, which is a great great handle. Thanks Jonathan, we'll talk to you soon. 00:29:00 Speaker 2: Thanks for amplifying this. Guts take care. 00:29:04 Speaker 3: If you're a parent, you don't need to be told that online safety is important. 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So we're gonna get to all of this, but first let's start with SOT seven and I want to get into This is Joe Rogan and he doesn't mince his words here, Blake st seven. 00:30:19 Speaker 5: Oh the phrase make America great again? I don't care then, but. 00:30:22 Speaker 2: To phrase sucks. 00:30:24 Speaker 10: Here's the thing, like, first of all, America is great. Make America greater. I'm down, but make America great again. And then it becomes a movement of a bunch of dorks because a lot of them are dorks. A lot of them these really weird, uninteresting, unintelligent people that have got something they cling to. And yet and there's a lot of people that are just real genuine patriots and they're all lumped into this one group. 00:30:48 Speaker 3: And you got accept the dorks too, that Blake. 00:30:53 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it was always possible that would happen. President Trump built a very eclectic coalition to win in twenty twenty four, but it was not a coalition that really existed in the past. This collision of podcast bros and Crypto Bro, Crypto Bross, conventional yeah, the tech the tech right, the christventional conservatives, Christian right, some people coming in from racial groups that normally didn't join, and a lot of them were getting on board with different problem you know, for various promises that were made, and if not all of those are delivered on, it's going to fracture apart. And also some of us just gonna be reversion to the mean. I mean, Joe Rogan was this Obama bro Bernie Bro years ago. There's gonna be some reversion to the mean these guys. It's a type of person who very quickly gets disillusioned with people or movements. 00:31:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, and attaches to the news, will abandon you. I mean, this is this is actually a really important point and we used to be like way more heightened about this. By the way, it's great to have his support when he has it, but he's gonna he will be like he's got no affiliation, he's got no long loyalties, he's got no devotion to this broader project, this broader movement, and so like, on the one hand, I'm not at all surprised, but I think it is important to watch his evolution from you know, actually endorsing President Trump in twenty twenty four, which he did it late, but listen, he did it and was noteworthy to basically calling everybody a bunch of doors. Yeah, and you know, this is why I go back to our first segment. If the Senate is not gonna pass common sense stuff, if they're not gonna fight, they're not gonna fight as hard as unpaid activists in their local communities, then listen, man, what you're not giving us anything to defend this with, pass the Save America Act, past uh DHS funding, or you know, fight till the absolute brutal end to make sure it happens. You're not giving the base anything to get up for, and that's a problem. And then you pile on top of every thing this war and Iran. Now there's a clip from Rubio that just broke, so I want to play it, and it's I think it's a good sign so I want to play it here, SOOT sixteen. 00:33:10 Speaker 11: Interesting sense of the Middle East or what role could they serve other than preparing the way for potential grounds invasion. And while you speak about several weeks, are you concerned that this could embroil the US in the kind of prolonged contract conflict? Excuse me that President Trump came to office promising to avoid. 00:33:28 Speaker 12: This is not going to be a prolonged conflict. The objectives I've outlined to you again, I repeat them because I see these reports is like if the users are not clear on what objectives are there. We've been as clear as you can possibly be from the very first night of what the objectives of this mission are. We're going to destroy their factories that make missiles and rockets and drones. 00:33:44 Speaker 3: We're going to destroy their navy. 00:33:46 Speaker 5: We're going to destroy their. 00:33:47 Speaker 12: Air force, and we are going to significantly destroy their missile launchers so they can never hide behind these things to get a nuclear weapon. 00:33:54 Speaker 3: We can achieve. 00:33:55 Speaker 12: We are achieving all those objectives. 00:33:56 Speaker 5: We are head of schedule on most of them. 00:33:59 Speaker 3: So he says this is not going to be a prolonged conflict. I think that's promising. Yeah, I think that's promising. I'll take it. And so we're holding them to that. And again I want to reiterate President Trump has never given us any indication from past conflicts that he's at all interested in a prolonged quagmire forever war. As a matter of fact, he was the original critic of the way that the neocons and the Bush era conducted these types of conflicts, and so like, listen, President Trump's earned a lot of trust, but we've let's get this lost trust can be lost. And so again we're kind of doing a quick wrap up of all the main stories here. This is a Tom Emmer and Mike Johnson whipped Tom Emmer are absolutely lambasting the Senate GOP for what they did last night STOT seventeen. 00:34:53 Speaker 13: Well, actually, I'll start out with our speaker is very unhappy. I'm not happy whole leadership group. What the Senate did was frankly not right. We are going to make sure that border is funded. This is about making sure that President Trump's number one part promise. 00:35:15 Speaker 5: Was that the border was going to be secure. 00:35:17 Speaker 13: He's accomplished with Republican leadership incredible things with the southern border. It has never been as tight as it is right now. But we are not going to allow these radical anarchist Marxist socialist Democrats to literally stop or create an open border situation again like we experienced under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And we are going to make sure that we continue to deport criminal, illegal aliens. 00:35:42 Speaker 2: This is what Americans want. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: Well, good for the House, Jo b this is I like to see them having some fight when the Senate is abdicating. So that's a good sign. And let's let's end this hour. Blake on a clip from Charlie and I sometimes, you know, even we need to hear it as well. And this is c saying kind of what I'm saying. Obviously he'll say it better about how Trump has earned some trust. So let's focus on this and we'll get through it together. Sat. Eighteen. 00:36:14 Speaker 1: As I've said once and I'll say again, President Trump has beyond earned our trust on all foreign affair issues. He took out Solemney, he took out Isis, he has bombed the Hutis. President Donald Trump has been a leader who is willing to use American military might where necessary, but not for prolonged conflicts he's not a nation builder guy. He's not a let's change the population sentiment guy. There's only one nation that Donald Trump wants to build, and that is America. He wants to rebuild this country with infrastructure, a border, rising wages, to get rid of inflation, mass deportations. President Donald Trump is focused on pouring money back into America. He's focused like a laser beam on that. And President Trump has earned our trust on all things foreign affairs. 00:37:11 Speaker 5: He's earned our trust and we have. This is definitely the biggest test of that trust. But if you can successfully navigate this to a conclusion, that will be the best vindication of that trust. 00:37:23 Speaker 3: And this is, as you said, the biggest test, the biggest test by far. 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It's hard not to think we're headed to a bush forty one lie of read my lips. My husband and I have three sons, two of draft age, one more to be in a year. We have nephews of draft age. I don't want to see one foot of an American soldier on their soil. It breaks my heart to see families already having to welcome home their dead soldier in a flag draped casket. No Americans should be dying. Trump is losing support on this. We in the lower middle class have never yet felt the relief that he brags about time after time. Low info voters will remember this in November. Trump needs to come down with a hammer on all the weak rhinos USOL companies price gouging us. He needs to take this as seriously as he did the border or he'll lose the Republican Party. 00:40:00 Speaker 5: I saw a great post on x that just said, there's policies, there are policies you can do that will have a damaging effect on the economy, And the obvious one you could have done was real mass deportations would hurt the economy. We've seen a ton ofitiances in the short ren, of course, a ton of businesses have gotten so addicted to illegal labor, low wage immigrant labor that it is massively disruptive to pluck those people out from them, and it would take them a while to adapt. That would have an economic consequence, but the long term benefit would be great, and I think a lot of people are frustrated that we might get a similar level of economic disruption, maybe more from a conflict that he didn't run on fighting, and no one was particularly excited for him to fight, and that even right after it begins, you're stuck trying to win people over to it rather than getting the usual rally around the flag effect. Every other war we've fought in my lifetime, certainly Iraq, Afghanistan, you know the involvements we had in Yugoslavia, and then even fire wars going way further back, you know, yeah, Venezuela similar going way through the back Vietnam, Korea, World War two, World War one. Every war starts with a big surge of popular enthusiasm, their patriotic rally behind the flag. Our country's been wrong, let's go win, and then if it's going badly, it depletes from there, or you just win. And you know that. 00:41:24 Speaker 3: Never saw this in Ukraine camp when we started funding Ukraine. 00:41:27 Speaker 5: Yeah, Ukraine started off with I think ninety two percent support for US backing them, and then it declined from there. Charlie was very lonely in thinking it was a bad idea to get involved. But now it's a much more fifty to fifty issue. This is a rare conflict where it's starting as maybe fifty to fifty, probably less, and the only way you come in people over is to win it quickly, improve that it was a good idea and not expensive correct. If it drags on, it's going to be a very big anchor around the administration. And we don't say that to be black pillars, we don't say that to be doomers. We say that because. 00:42:02 Speaker 3: We care about the care about success. 00:42:04 Speaker 5: We want to win, and there are people who are going to just sell this sakkarai you know narrative. Everything's great, don't worry about it all, all the polls, their lives. That is why we talk to young people. That is why we ask for the emails. 00:42:19 Speaker 3: You know. The probably the thing in this email that you should be most concerned about is this line. We in the lower middle class have never felt yet, the relief he brags about time after time. And to Blake's point, if you were going to take a big shot, if you were going to do something bold that you knew was going to be disruptive, why couldn't it have been just massively going after illegal aliens that are employed right by the way. This is what's so interesting about the Caesar Shaves stuff. We talked about this, I think on thought crime. You know, he's lifted up as this you know, left wing hero. The truth is Caesar Chavez, well, not beyond being a pedophile and a rapist, which are obviously there are new revelations, but he would go through the state of California and his goons would literally beat up illegal immigrants. You know why, because he thought that they lowered the wages of his union workers. They lowered the wages of American workers. So you know that was a disruptive thing. We've known that business interests want their cheap labor. Well, too bad, you can't have it anymore. Too bad, that's going to be disruptive for the economy. Too bad, that's going to be disruptive for your business. The long term benefit outweighs the cost. The American people voted for that kind of thing. So if you're going to take a big swing, do it on the thing that's actually popular. Do it on the thing that we could defend. 00:43:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that we just again we say this, Danny, you're the youngest one here. You talked to young people the most. 00:43:54 Speaker 3: Do you talk to our chapters. 00:43:55 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm telling you guys right now to all like the boomers out there. 00:43:59 Speaker 3: Just boomers like it. Yeah, well, disrespect. 00:44:01 Speaker 14: It's just the biggest disconnect is what the thing is. They aren't there's full at different ends of the spectrum right now, especially on the war, and there's a there's a storm coming where they're just not going to vote. They feel like no matter what parties evolved, it doesn't matter. 00:44:17 Speaker 5: We want to be clear, there's a difference here. This does not mean that the war itself is bad. It does not mean that the war itself is unjustified. But what we are warning is, regardless of whether the war is justified or not, whether it's a good idea or not, whether it's necessary or not, the war with the people who took President Trump over the hump in twenty four it is unpopular with those marginal new members of the Trump coalition and a lot of them are leaving the coalition over that, are feeling discouraged over that, and we have to recognize that or we're going to walk into a political disaster. You have to approach all political questions with clear eyes like that. It's something Charlie always emphasized and was very good at. 00:44:59 Speaker 3: Well here here's where it really becomes a red flag for me. And I know we haven't taken any college yet, and I'm sorry this email I thought was really thoughtful. Our chapter leaders, we had Gabe say on from Wyoming and he said something that I have not stopped thinking about since he came on the show. And he said, when we're tabling, whether we're getting confronted from other conservatives or Libs on campus about these items, they can't defend them, and we are left in a position of we are in limbo. I listen, we love President Trump. President Trump has done a great job on many fronts. He started this rebellion against foreign adventurism. He gets all the credit in the world for that. He's not gotten us into forever wars and quagmires, and so we're basically left in a position where we're just trusting that that's going to be the case here too, while also acknowledging Iran is the biggest challenge yet, the ground troops is going to be the biggest challenge yet. If those end up happening, I don't know how to defend that because we didn't run on it. I don't have a defense for it. I don't know what to tell our kids at these chapters that are left to sort of make excuses for a policy action that nobody voted for. So you got to give us something, That's all I'm saying. And to Danny's point, Danny's your young twenties. He's talking to a lot of these kids and they don't know what to say. So when you have that type of dynamic emerging, give us something, explain something, have Jade Vance go out on the podcast tour and defend this. Have Marco Rubio go on the podcast tour and defend this. Explain what's going on here, because we're just all left to kind of hope and pray. I mean, Danny, am I misrepresenting this? 00:46:51 Speaker 14: No, No, not at all. They're just they're struggling to back any of what's going on right now, and they're looking for an answer and right now they're not being given in anything. 00:47:00 Speaker 5: So something needs to change. 00:47:02 Speaker 3: So we do this out of love because we want to see the coalition healthy. We want to see people be able to defend what the administration is doing, and we want to be successful in the midterms. Democrats are unacceptable. That has not even changed. I saw that from Megan Kelly. She's been a very big, loud critic. She was even saying, you gotta vote Republican. There's no other option. But God, Lee man, you know, give us something. Fight for the save America. Elizabeth, please unmute yourself and welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Thanks for being a member. 00:47:30 Speaker 15: H n Hi Angie, Hi Blake, Hi Danny. 00:47:33 Speaker 1: How are you today? 00:47:34 Speaker 3: Happening great? How are you? 00:47:36 Speaker 5: I'm well thank you. 00:47:37 Speaker 15: So I had an idea that I would hope would bring the youth vote back and also get us everything that we want with student loans. I didn't realize, like the interest goes on forever, and like you can make payments, it does only affect a balance. So I thought, if Congress passed a bill where, for example, you took out one hundred thousand dollars in loans, after you've paid one hundred and twenty thousand dollars back, you're paid off, done, and they can make it retroactive. So it's not student loan forgiveness. It's just that you never have to pay back more than twenty percent of what you've actually borrowed. And we tie this to everything we've ever wanted, immigration reform, border funding, ice funding, all of those executive orders from President Trump all tied into this one option of we restructure the financing and make it retroactive for student loans. 00:48:31 Speaker 1: And also it. 00:48:31 Speaker 15: Would bring in a youthful I would think, and also it would help with like failm information and buying homes. What do you guys think of that? 00:48:39 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Blake, Well, so some of this does at least exist for some cases. I don't know exactly what cases it exist for, but there is, for example, the pay as you earn plan for federal student loans. I think that's twenty years of on time payments and it's like ten percent of your discretionary income, which that means it excludes taxes and certain other things. Help and yeah, and if you pay in consistently over that for twenty years, you can get loans forgiven. So some of that does exist. I do agree with you. I would say your specific deal. The thing I would run into is you'd still probably need Democrats on board with it. And Democrats, okay, they'll just never embrace immigration reform. They are, they're truly religiously fanatical. But I do foreign criminals should come into But I. 00:49:23 Speaker 3: Do love what you're thinking about here, Elizabeth, because you're you're saying, what is the bone that we can throw to the Democrats get everything we want, they get something ostensibly that they want, and therefore, if they're gonna if they're gonna reject it, if they're gonna block it, then they have to go on record blocking something that young people really like. I love the creativity and I'm gonna think about it more. But to Blake's point. I don't know that this is the silver bullet that that that we need, but it's it's creative and I like so I like the strategy, and maybe there's a way to work something like this where they get something that they want, we get to claim credit for it, and we get a lot of the will. 00:50:00 Speaker 5: The big strategic picture to acknowledge, which you are correct to see, is that student loans are a huge problem in America. Just the number of people who are on them, the scale of them. They're big problem in America, and they are a wedge that the left uses to bring in young people. That young people take on a ton of debt to go to school, and it's a very imposing thing, and it makes them very sympathetic towards this socialism socialist nonsense that gets fed to them by huckster candidates like Zora Memdanni AOC and so on, And we want to find ways to break that hold. The other reason we'd want to break the student loan cartel, if you will, is this is what a big part of what's enriching colleges, which are basically left wing organizations. It's their giant reserve of jobs for left wingers, spending for left wingers, institutional power for the left, And so we do want to find a way to change the way student loans work. 00:50:58 Speaker 3: And well, the federal government broke student loans when they got involved in them, right, So we work with y REFI that handles private student loans. 00:51:05 Speaker 2: Well. 00:51:05 Speaker 3: A lot of the loans are now federal, right, which the college cabal took as a blank check to just keep inflating tuition prices, building fancy buildings every adms. 00:51:15 Speaker 5: Every year they would hike the max for how much you could take on. And the Trump administration one of the accomplishments they've done quietly is they've stopped automatically increasing how much and loans you can take out and lo and behold, a bunch of schools are no longer hiking their tuition automatically because it was. 00:51:30 Speaker 3: A blank check. It was a blank check for the college cabal. And guess what we're doing when we do that, You're empowering the very institutions that hate you and that are undermining the country. So we need to stop doing that. But I think in general, private student loans make a whole lot more sense than federal and I'll explain why private student loans. If you're a private entity, you have actual skin in the game that you have to make sure you get your money back, because why give a loan out if you're not going to get paid back. That's the whole point of a loan, as you make it back with interest and you make a profit on it. If you are giving loans out for somebody that is not a good candidate to have a loan that they're not going to make that money back, they're not going to be able to repay you, then you're not going to give that loan out. That would have a forcing function effect across the college cabal to make sure that their degrees are worth it, that students are actually getting jobs on the other side of their degree process, that they get into a marketplace and they can actually make money, and it would sort of weed out the terrible degrees only the people with rich parents could afford the underwater basket agall. 00:52:33 Speaker 5: I think in general, what a big problem, a big source of problems for student loans is that they are basically anyone can claim an entitlement to them, whether they're studying anything useful, whether they are likely to be able to pay them off whether the school they are going to is particularly good. Basically, we have some standards for for profit institutions, but for nonprofit institutions there's very little expectation that a program be worth it. And you've been thinking about it the whole but no, sorry, it's just so the whole thing is built. Who is the biggest beneficiary. The permanent beneficiary is always the colleges. It's always their administrators, their staff. The primary beneficiary is not aimed at being students. And I think big reforms you'd want. Yeah, some of that could be a pack on how much you have a cap on how much you have to repay. But the best reforms of all are we shouldn't give student loans unless there is a reasonable expectation this loan will be worth it. And the other reform i'm a big fan of is we should shift towards a system where colleges are on the hook if a person who attends them on loans is unable to repay it. Make a college effectively whatever word you want to use, but make them cost sign alone, make them co sign the loan, and yes that student is the first person to repay. Love this idea, but if they don't, the college is repay. 00:53:49 Speaker 14: Oh. 00:53:50 Speaker 3: I love this idea because it will also help with admissions. They're not going to start keep admitting people that they don't have a strong belief that that person is a good candidate for a degree, that they are qualified, that they are smart enough to get a good job that can actually pay that loan back. Right now, they're getting all mixed up in this ideology. Well guess what ideology throat gets thrown out the window when dollars and cents start not adding up. So I love that. And by the way, the whole reason the federal government got involved in the student loan process is because you could make an argument that this was good for the country, like we are doing a public good by ensuring more and more young people get college degrees. Well, I'm not so sure that it is in the public interest to get more and more people educated beyond their intelligence, or to get degrees that don't mean anything, that don't train them for anything. So the whole system needs reform because it's broken and it's actually ending up in results that don't help the country. And so I love that co signing idea. I think we should push that hard I don't know if young people will get the memo, but you know, I just remember when I was coming A lot of this came up when I was coming of age, because you know, they're like, well, Europeans they get a free education. 00:54:57 Speaker 5: And they all spend sitting in school for forty years and they we have a youth unemployment rate of twenty five percent, and they're stagnant, and they're still importing infinity immigrants from abroad to replace them. 00:55:07 Speaker 3: So let's not be like Europe. 00:55:08 Speaker 5: Let's not be like Europe. 00:55:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, no one wants to be like that mirage has been successfully. 00:55:14 Speaker 5: If the mirage has not been dispelled, go to East London. 00:55:18 Speaker 3: Yep, Elizabeth, thank you for calling in. Hopefully we got to your question. I love the way you're thinking. It's strategic, get them a bone and we get everything we want. And uh so I'm going to think on that more. 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But as Charlie would say, guys, we don't fight because we are likely to win. Hopefully we'll win. But the reason you fight is because it's the right thing to do. You fight for your country because it is the right thing to do, and you have to do that, even if you know it's doomed, even if you know it will fail. You have to fight for the right thing. 00:57:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you think back to like Churchill and World War Two and the blitz and how he rallied the troops. I don't know we should pull that. We should pull that famous Churchill clip because I think it's inspiring. And I would also say that deeper than that, you know, what is it profit a man to gain the whole world but to lose his soul? And I was speaking with some folks at the Federalists. It's why Molly Hemingway and Sean were in town yesterday, and you know, I talked about Somebody asked a question, what's gonna make the country good? Do we need revival before the country can be restored folly? And I would say yes. Ultimately, we fight because our faith compels us to, because our value set compels us to. As Blake was saying, and what Charlie was saying, is that you fight because it's the right thing to do. Well, how do you know what the right thing to do is? Well, you lean on your faith, you lean on scripture, you lean on the eternal things, the good, the true, the beautiful, And I think without an anchoring in the eternal, without an anchoring in what God wants for this world, you know, we pray. The one prayer that Jesus taught us to pray was you know, the our Father, right, may your Kingdom come. So we fight because we're trying to make earth more like Heaven. And so ultimately, how do you make that happen without providence and without us participating in some grand design from the Lord. So I think the faith element is what keeps me going it keeps me going in all this after Charlie. We lost Charlie. So to me, that's you can't get through that question without that core element. 00:59:11 Speaker 14: What do you think, Danny, Yeah, I think just giving up In generals never they answer it's cringe for anything. 00:59:16 Speaker 5: No, it's lame. So latters are lame. 00:59:18 Speaker 14: Yeah, So why would you ever give up? Why would you ever just stop fighting? I's to that believe in something, you might as well just keep going. 00:59:25 Speaker 5: Romo's twelve twelve says rejoice and hope, endure an affliction, persevere in prayer. I'm sure there's probably some modern casual translation of the Bible that just says no quitting. 00:59:38 Speaker 3: The message. Yeah, exactly. Actually, I'm going to look up what the message says you should. But I mean, I think that's well said, Danny. Like quitting is like for losers, Oh my gosh, it's quitting it. Oh what is the message saying? 00:59:50 Speaker 5: Don't burn out, keep yourself fueled in the flame, be inert servants of the master, cheerfully expectant, don't quit in hard times, pray all the harder, help needy Christians, be inventive in hospitality. I think they merged twelve and thirteen there because the message gets very blurry with its verses. But nevertheless, even if it's in a bad Bible translation, the Bible is very clear. You endure, and if you think it's tough, if you think it's tough, now, because we lose legal challenges, we lose elections, we lose economic growth. Remember there are Christians who lost their lives. They got eaten by lions in the Colosseum, they got crucified by Roman officials, by pagans, by the Japanese. There have been martyrs all around the world. People have had to suffer far more than any of us, save Charlie, of course, will likely ever suffer for our faiths, for our values. 01:00:48 Speaker 3: I've got a good verse for this. Since you brought up the Bible verse Isaiah forty through thirty one, I'll read the ESV. Even youths shall faint and be weary, and young men she'll fall exhausted. But they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength. They shall mount up with wings like eagles. They shall run and not be weary. They shall walk and not faint. So the key there is those who wait for the Lord. She'll renew their strength and in a lot of ways this whole season that we're living through on the show, we're living through a TPSA, what we're living through when it comes to Iran, when we're living through the economic promises and all of this affordability stuff that we talk about. What you're living through, Mary, with your lawsuit, with this healthcare sometimes you got to wait on the Lord, and it's the waiting could be the hardest part. 01:01:42 Speaker 5: That was a great question for Mary. I think we have Christine next. We'll question and we were told she left, but we still want to get to so Christine's subscriber question. Andrew and Blake, you've said women want the marriage benefits, but not the authority. I assume of the husband. As a Christian wife, my husband has the final view on finances, safety, future, and spiritual leadership. And it works great. But as a counselor, I see far too many men who turn submission into domination. What's your personal take on male authority and marriage? Should this start in dating? And how does this help TPUSA students on campus. You've got to take the lead on that one, Andrew. 01:02:22 Speaker 3: All right, so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up this Bible verse here because it's it's it's important. This comes from Ephesians five. Okay, so let's just read the scripture here. Then submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. So that's the first point. It's not domination. It's submit to one another. Wives, submit to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head and the wife, as Christ is the head of the Church, his body, of which he is the savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands and everything. Here's the key, though, because you could stop there and it ends in a domination. Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the Church. And here's the key, and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body. But they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does. The Church for we are members of his body. For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. Paul says, this is a profound mystery. So the point here is, yes, there is a divine order of things. There is a way that God set things up that a wife should come under the headship of her husband. That's what it says in the scripture. You get don't get mad at me. This is is what it says in the word. But the exchange is a profound mystery because the husband will then sacrifice himself, his own wants, his needs, his desires to serve his wife, to serve his family, to make his wife radiant and holy and good. That's the key. And when a wife trusts the good intentions, the good faith intentions of her husband, that he is doing everything in his leadership power and his authority power and his headship power to serve his wife to make her holy and radiant, then a beautiful mystery happens and the wife will not fight the husband, the husband will not domineer over the wife. They become one. And so that's the key that a lot of people take to submit to your husband's line and they subtract the next next portion of that. But it's a great burden upon men. It's a beautiful servant relationship that you serve your wife, and I think when you do that, when there's trust, a lot of that animosity goes out the window. Like in my marriage, we don't even think about this stuff, like in a conscious level. We understand the principles of scripture and we try and honor that in our marriage. But it's not like we're going around all the time being like, submit to me, woman, I am the head. No, that's not at all how it works. As a matter of fact, my wife has amazing intuition and discernment, and I rely on her to help avoid pitfalls, to avoid mistakes, and I trust her judgment on these things. So it's very much a partnership. I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on this, maybe maybe maybe from the gen Z dating perspective, Dan, I mean. 01:05:35 Speaker 5: I don't you go for like you can start Well, I was saying, I don't. I don't like to do big opinions on this. I'm not married. It's sort of silly for you know, I know, I have many friends who are married, some friends who are divorced. That's what happens when you age. You see the which ones make it and which don't. But I think instead what I had turned to, I think a very good perspective on marriage was actually offered by Erica Charlie's memorial. She very much wanted to talk about Charlie's attitude towards marriage, that his goal when he wanted to save young people wasn't just a religious relival. He cared a lot about reviving the American family. She said, if Charlie had entered politics, his number one priority would be a revival of the family. And so she talks about what an ideal marriage looks like. She used her own marriage with Charlie as an example. We all saw it. It was a very good marriage, and it did involve that excellent, strong leadership from Charlie. Definitely submission from Erica, but in that positive way. That your wife is your helpmate, she is not your slave. I think that is what she said. 01:06:43 Speaker 3: And we have some ck clips excellent we. 01:06:46 Speaker 5: Should play that. I think we'll play that before the segment is out. But that's it's one of those things where if you're going into it with the right attitude, certainly with an attitude of faith, for one, it shouldn't be that difficult, because it's almost like you should practically be competing with each other to see who can serve the other one better. Like the wife is really going on out to show how much she can submit, which is how much of a great helpmate she can be to her husband, while the husband is going all out to show what an amazing provider he is for the spouse, an amazing servant leadership. And if they're basically competing with each other on that front, I don't see how the marriage can really go badly. And it's when you start turning marriage into a rivalry, when you start turning it into a power struggle, of course, it's going to end up being toxic. 01:07:37 Speaker 3: And distrust runs a muck and so many other bad things. Let's hear Charlie's words on this UT nineteen. 01:07:45 Speaker 1: This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative, engage in reality more, and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism, submit to your husband, Taylor, You're not in charge, And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey cuff concert. I can't say it without laughing. You gotta change your name. If not, you don't really mean it. Congratulations, Taylor, I forgot about that. 01:08:20 Speaker 5: That great That was so excellent. It was so right on, by the way, you know, speaking of did you know the guy who plays Jacob from those Twilight movies Taylor Loutner. He married someone also named Taylor, and she did change her last name, So they're both Taylor Loutner and I guess they're having a baby, and they've hinted they're going to name the baby Taylor as well, so it'll be Taylor Louder and Taylor Loutner with their baby Taylor Loudner. 01:08:42 Speaker 3: That's a terrible idea. SAT twenty more from ck on this. 01:08:45 Speaker 8: Hello, TikTok, today's a very special day. It is our four year anniversary. 01:08:49 Speaker 3: Four years. 01:08:52 Speaker 8: What's your piece of advice after four years for all the TikTok people, Oh, my goodness, love your husband well and get married. Just get off your couch, stop watching all that terrible stuff and go get married. Yes that's right, and go on that adventure. It's the best thing ever. And go get married. It's amazing to the right person, happier than ever. God bless you guys. 01:09:17 Speaker 5: That selfie angle makes it look like Charlie is like three feet taller. 01:09:20 Speaker 3: He was a giant. 01:09:21 Speaker 5: He was a tall guy. 01:09:22 Speaker 2: He was. 01:09:23 Speaker 3: But that's why we had a chair here. Like legitimately one of the things when people come into the studio and they always want to take pictures and stuff like that. I always tell him, you know, this was the cheapest chair option that we presented him because he was such a giant human and so we had this, you know, it was a thousand dollars chair and a five hundred dollars chair and all this stuff. He was like, I don't like him. He had back problems, so he was like, I don't like it. 01:09:46 Speaker 4: I don't like it. 01:09:47 Speaker 3: I don't like So they ended up going with the shack chair. It was like one hundred fifty bucks at Target, and he was like, this is the one like made for super sized people, and I think we got it years ago. It's even got like a little piece of the uh what do you call it? The vinyl is like his has worn off because he used it so much, and it just makes me love it all the more. 01:10:08 Speaker 8: So. 01:10:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlie was a giant person. Every time we by the way, you saw this too. When we take him into public or whatever, we'd be people meet him for the first time, people like, you're way taller than I expected. Yeah, he was a big guy. Do you have another question? We got three minutes left in this segment. 01:10:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, let's go to I think Ian is next. 01:10:25 Speaker 2: Ian. 01:10:25 Speaker 5: If you're there, unmute yourself and what's your question? 01:10:27 Speaker 16: Hey, guys, how you doing? 01:10:29 Speaker 5: We're doing great? 01:10:31 Speaker 2: Hey? 01:10:31 Speaker 16: I kinda answered my first question with how do we talk about Trump meeting the peace president? 01:10:36 Speaker 2: So hopefully they give. 01:10:38 Speaker 16: Us something, But I would like to know how can how can Congress be the only people that can vote on their salary, leave their job and also get paid when the company is shut down, because that sounds like a fantastic job, and you know, it just seems kind of crazy to me. Why are we allowing this? We're just sitting by and like treating them like celebrities. When is like, but is why is this changed like this? When did they stop serving the people? 01:11:06 Speaker 5: Uh? Man, if you wanted to get gosh, we could talk for a whole hour about that. 01:11:10 Speaker 3: Design trying to trigger me into another angry ranting. 01:11:15 Speaker 5: One of you know, A kind of maybe eccentric idea of mine is they're very frustrating. They do like to vote themselves pay raises, although in some ways they don't get paid a ton one of my and that's why they're always maneuvering to cash in as lobbyists after they leave office. So many of them are looking to the next thing. I have sometimes wondered, what if we make people mad? What if you did something like you said, actually, senators are paid a million dollars a year, but you are like never allowed to work anything government adjacent as soon as you leave office, like no lobbying nonsense. You're in fact, you're banished from the DC area just you have to maybe you can't even you can you can never even make more than a million dollars a year once you get office. 01:11:59 Speaker 3: If the government should down, you don't get paid. 01:12:01 Speaker 5: Get shut down, you don't get paid. Like you you attach more strings to it, and you have way stricter anti bribery anti How. 01:12:08 Speaker 3: About this too, You incentivize them if they save money, if they balance the budget, they all get another million dollars. 01:12:17 Speaker 5: As soon as you did that, we'd have a balanced budget. 01:12:19 Speaker 3: Oh right away. And but here's the thing. It has to be strings attached. If you don't keep the government funded, no money, you don't get it back. It's not furloughed, you don't get to make up for that lost money. You're just out money. I actually think this is a great idea, balance the budget. Million dollar bonus for all members of Congress. And here's here you can go. 01:12:41 Speaker 5: Some more plausible. When the deficit was three hundred instead of. 01:12:44 Speaker 3: Three trips, the figure it out. They'd figure it out. A million dollar bone. 01:12:47 Speaker 14: You want to see some Allians getting like going after them. 01:12:51 Speaker 3: This is actually these are some good thoughts here, I will say to your point, though, Senator Kennedy did propose that budget amen, or that amendment on the floor where I think basically saying, hey, we shouldn't get paid paid while the government is not fully funded. So he tried, and then the Democrats, you know, I spiked it, and then the guy I guess who issued the motion ran out of the chamber because he's a coward. They're all cowards. That's the problem with deliberative bodies. They get to hide behind the rest of the team. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. 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Who's up next? 01:14:24 Speaker 2: Mick? 01:14:24 Speaker 3: Unmute yourself. Welcome to the Charlie kirkshow. 01:14:27 Speaker 9: Hey, thanks guys. Sorry I couldn't talk last week. I would have summed like a brief you peasant, Emperor Palpatine. 01:14:34 Speaker 5: And I hate to. 01:14:36 Speaker 9: Saber rattle here, but everyone I talked to my age and I'm twenty two years old, they just do not care about Iran one way or another. I mean, you could go in with a camera and say, all right, guys, here's the nukes. They're building them, and they still wouldn't. 01:14:50 Speaker 5: Go They'd be like, what are we doing at home? 01:14:52 Speaker 2: And so. 01:14:55 Speaker 9: Could we name some of the names some of those warmongers that are in the cabinet in the administration. I'm not sure if there's any in the cabinet, but I want to start a public pressure campaign so those individuals' names are out there, and uh, just we got to get this wrapped up. 01:15:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, listen, you're singing from the same song sheet here. 01:15:18 Speaker 5: It's the same thing. 01:15:19 Speaker 14: I'm twenty three, so I'm basically the same age, and that's the exact same thing I'm hearing. Well, not that they don't care, they actually do care a lot, and that they don't want us involved. They don't care about being pro war. They care a lot that we shouldn't be there, we need to get out, and they're really turning on Trump. 01:15:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just be fair to Trump here though, right. President Trump has been very consistent on Iran throughout the years that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. So it's one of those things. I mean, even Charlie you know, went around in twenty twenty four and describe President Trump as the peace president, no new wars, first president not to get us into another foreign conflict. You know, for whatever reason, President Trump looked at the math, looked at the intel, and decided this was the time to strike. You can disagree with it, but the truth is he has been consistent about Iran throughout the years. This is the biggest test. So who are those figures? You want us to name names? I mean, some of the notable ones would be like Mike Waltz, it would be CIA director John Radcliffe has said that the intel was there. You know, some people point to Pete hegseath. I don't know that that's fair. Pete's a good soldier. The President has made the decision to go in, so Pete's going to do it the best he can. A lot of finger pointing has gone to bb net Yahoo, who's not in the administration. Obviously, he's the Prime Minister of Israel. He's wanted to take out the Iranian threat in that region. So we got to just sort of be honest that I'm not a believer in that. President Trump didn't have his own agency here. He had his own agency. He wanted to take this shot. He thought it was the right time. I think what we saw in Venezuela probably made a lot of warmongers within the military industrial complex and the intel community whatever sort of say, hey, we can do this and it can be really seamless and really clean. I hope that ultimately proves to be right. And I'll say what I've said before that this could ultimately be the right foreign policy decision, national security decision, and it could be politically unpopular, and that's a trade off that a lot of us are very uncomfortable with. But that's where we are. 01:17:26 Speaker 14: And what every young person that I've talked to gen Z is they all like thought Venezuela was awesome. They were like they were so behind it, even though it was like still a military Yeah, and that was more so because it's like a quick in and out thing. 01:17:39 Speaker 5: Nobody died. 01:17:40 Speaker 14: But they're on this new thing where like we saw this yesterday when we were talking to him, where that if a single American dies in a conflict, they immediately go off that we should have never been in there in the first place. And so they're kind of tying American deaths to whether or not to gen Z. Yeah, gen Z, of whether or not we should be going to war. And so they're very against the Iran war right now. And one of the main thing is because they're mentioning that we've lost thirteen soldiers and so that's why Venezuela was great, because we didn't lose any. So it's kind of a weird path that they're going down, because also, you can't really have a country if you're not gonna lose some soldiers at some it's not you wouldn't have it. It's not reasonable, you'd never have a country. So there's a little bit of fine lining here where they're kind of just dooming to doom on some stuff. 01:18:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, they just so there is some covetching just to covetch, right, as if it's say, but you know, I would say the Venezuela strike was different as well, because we have something called the Monroe doctrine right where it's hemispheric dominance. I think a lot of you know, even people that are uncomfortable with these concepts of American empire can get behind the fact that we're the big dog in the Western hemisphere and everybody needs to kind of like get in line. I love that, to be honest, I'm super into it, and so so. And you know, you've blown up drug boats. That was kind of rad too, because these guys are bringing in poison to kill Americans and you know, feed this black market of drugs and fentanyl and cocaine. I love the drug boats. Okay, fine, uh, Middle East Man, We've just got a lot of scar tissue there, and it's it's a way tougher sell. And by the way, that Iran is a huge country, huge and it's got a lot of different factions and a lot of different things going on there, a lot of history, proud people. I just hope that the people rise up, and I think President Trump's right. If they do it now, they're gonna get mowed down. But I I do hope that that that does end up happening they take their country back. Blake, Do you have any thoughts? 01:19:30 Speaker 14: I mean. 01:19:33 Speaker 3: No, no, who's next? 01:19:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, we have Anthony. 01:19:37 Speaker 3: Anthony, Welcome to the show. 01:19:41 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, Hey, what's going on? 01:19:44 Speaker 17: Just got off a meeting. That's that's why I emailed you guys might question earliercause I didn't know if I was. 01:19:48 Speaker 5: Going to get on. 01:19:49 Speaker 3: Well what's your question? 01:19:50 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:19:51 Speaker 3: Good to happy. 01:19:53 Speaker 17: Let me hold my email real quick so I remember as I sent it to you, guys. So basically, it's regarding how Democrats want to control things by putting, you know, putting bills on the floor in federal government and in certain states to control limited movements, what you can do with energy, what you can install in buildings and houses. And the reason I asked this is because now we're seeing I think it's in Massachusets. I said, this thing called the move Act that will limit how much you can drive a day, a week, a month, a year. Is there any way to stop this or kind of put the brakes on it, because and I know it's at the state level, but is there a federal thing that can be done through EPA Zelden's apartment, because you're limiting the motion of freedom. 01:20:36 Speaker 3: Sounds I'm constitutional, actually, but I don't know, Blake, do you have anything. 01:20:40 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know the specifics of this law in general. 01:20:43 Speaker 17: I just saw it pop up this week all over social media. 01:20:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, in general, we do, yeah, like Massachusetts moves to limit miles people can drive because of climate change. But I don't know if it is that like a strict rule or is it more of some there. 01:20:58 Speaker 3: They're trying to pass it as a bill. 01:20:59 Speaker 17: And you'll the reason I asked this is because we all know, like when California usually does something, the next blue state will do it, like Illinois, New York, New Jersey and so on. Like this is kind of like you're stopping freedom here. 01:21:13 Speaker 5: It sounds. I'm looking at it now, it looks like it sets state wide goals, which yeah, it's the left is very good at taking vague goals and then suddenly they somehow have legal force. They're good at a thing that is difficult with the left. The left is generally better at decentralized action and the sense they really are almost like the border or the hive mind, like mimetic stuff gets out where they're suddenly all on the same page and they all get aligned and they don't necessarily even need to communicate with each other, and so all of their judges are suddenly with the program, whether it's on open borders, or on global warming, or on race, communism, or everything and ideal it. We could take steps to stop it. But on the other hand, one of the best things that does protect us when the left inevitably has more power in this country is we do have a federalist system that allows red states to push back against this as well. So to some extent, that's the it's the double side of the coin in terms of blue states being able to, you know, destroy themselves. 01:22:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, I think this sounds really unpopular. It reminds me of that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Instead of fixing underblying problems, they just want to limit freedom, limit access, limit the size of your house, limit all these kind of things. I think it's going to be wildly unpopular. But Anthony, thank you for your question. We will see you guys. 01:22:30 Speaker 2: Thank you. 01:22:31 Speaker 3: Have a great weekend. 01:22:35 Speaker 5: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.