Bondi Down + The Suicidal Death of the West ft. Dr. Gad Saad

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We're April second here at the y Refi Studios. It's our new partner in the studio, y Refi Studios. Check them out. So we've got lots of news to get to and we've got a jam pack first hour. We've got two guests in the second half of the hours. I want to get to the news right now. So there's multiple things swirling that I think all could be the lead if we wanted to. First of which is Trump gave a speech last night giving an update on the around war. 00:02:22 Speaker 6: Now. 00:02:22 Speaker 2: A lot of people said, well, he didn't really make any news. I actually disagree. I think what was most interesting about the speech was what wasn't said. Let's play some of his clips and kind of get the tone, set the stage, and I'll explain what I mean tot. Six. 00:02:39 Speaker 7: Thanks to the progress we've made, I can say tonight that we are on track to complete all of America's military objectives shortly, very shortly. We're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to the Stone ages where they belong. In the meantime. Discussions are ongoing. 00:03:01 Speaker 2: All right, So he gives a timeline two to three weeks. We've heard that before. Sometimes it goes back and forth. Trump. President Trump is definitely reserving the right here to define what he sees as victory. The question, though, has remained what to do with the straight of Horn moves, And I think that's where we're starting to get the most clarity here. Tot. Seven. 00:03:22 Speaker 7: To those countries that can't get fuel, many of which refuse to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, we had to do it ourselves. I have a suggestion number one by oil from the United States of America. We have plenty, we have so much. And number two build up some delayed courage. Should have done it before, should have done it with us as we asked. Go to the Strait and just take it, protect it, use it for yourselves. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done. 00:03:56 Speaker 2: So President Trump is sending a very clear signal to I would say, France, England, Italy. That's what that was directed to. Because in another clip he sort of gives a shout out to some of the Middle Eastern allies here that I think have met the moment in his eyes more SOT three. 00:04:14 Speaker 7: So I want to thank our allies in the Middle East, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Guitar, the UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain. They've been great and we will not let them get hurt or fail in any way, shape or form. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: All Right, So I'm gonna translate this because Blake's team he didn't say much. Here's what I'm going to say. Messages clear, the US is winning. It's shy of we've officially won, though, all right, And I think that's consistent with some of the messaging we've heard He's got strong words for NATO, the NATO countries that are dependent on energy flowing through the strait of horn Moose. He's now telling them that it's your responsibility in the long run to keep the straight open, not his job. We have enough oil. Okay, we could talk about the implications of what that means. He did not, and this is a key. He did not mention ground troops, as some media outlets had been reporting he would do in this speech. So the fact that there was not a ground invasion announced last night was a big, big deal. Trump did not mention Kurdish forces as other media outlets had predicted. The war's not over. But that was about as close as you could get to President Trump's spiking the football as you could get without doing it. So we're thirty two days in and a little bit at TBD on how many more weeks we have ahead of us. So what this was was President Trump defining his right to define what victory looks like and defined when he is gonna determine that the missional objectives have been achieved. So that's what that speech was. He was defining the straight of hor Moose, what's the future there? He was defining who his who he thinks have been good allies and who have been bad allies. We've heard reports that President Trump in Marco Ruby are going to be reassessing our relationship to NATO after epic Fury concludes, and it's almost done. That's what was really I think front and center here. He wants to be able to say this is what victory looks like, our mission is achieved, We're out straight at hor Moose or not. 00:06:21 Speaker 4: I think that if he wants to get a win friend in the war, the way to do that is to end the war. 00:06:27 Speaker 2: Yep, that's I think what he's saying. 00:06:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I guess what I was telling you is it was essentially what we've already heard on truth Social. In fact, they made the point, the White House made the point that he's been repeating the same thing, that the goals are sink their fleet, destroy their missile capability, keep them from having a nuclear weapon. And he emphasized that in the speech last night. But it's the same message. And the reason it mattered that the President was giving a speech as people were wondering if it was going to mark a big announcement, and in fact it didn't either way. So if he says the war is near, that is great. If the war is in fact nearly done, but we've been saying the war is nearly done since the Ayatola was blown up. 00:07:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, I agree. But again he said four to six weeks. We're four weeks in. He did not mention ground troops. I think it's a huge, huge thing to take note of. He basically said, listen, we're basically wrapping up the job. And if you want the straight cleared Europe who relies on this energy, we don't rely on it. It's up to you to make it clear. Okay. And that's a big deal because he's wiping his hands of the responsibility. I think the larger implications of this are going to be our relationship to NATO moving forward, our relationship to countries like Italy, Spain that weren't letting us use their bases to launch strikes. And you saw it in that clip from President Trump where he said, maybe you could get some delayed courage, do the right thing. Now, go support your own country's economy by clearing the straight I mean, I get, I get the whole dynamic, and the NATO question is going to be looming large in the years and months and years to come. So I think we have to be clear eyed about what that means. I think there is NATO can be absolutely a force for good, but they really there is an antagonism that has developed between the United States and our European allies that we can't. We just have to be clear eyed about it and open about it, because it's out in the open now. Well. 00:08:26 Speaker 4: The funniest thing about it is it does actually take you back to when President Trump wanted to buy Greenland. The fact that all of these neo allies are now denying the US access to their airspace and air bases does drive home the point that's why it matters sometimes to have your own airspace and your own air bases on your own land. 00:08:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. 00:08:47 Speaker 4: So it is very interesting. It's one thing for them to not join the fact that they've even denied the air bases after we've spent billions of dollars. I can understand why President Trump is very angry with them. 00:08:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. And you got to at some point, you got to say, what are we getting out of this relationship. I don't think that even if we pull out of NATO, which I don't think is going to happen. But even if we did that, there's it's It doesn't instantly mean that we're at each other's throats with Europe. It doesn't. It could mean something else, and maybe this would force Europe to stop being fake and phony countries that think they have strong militaries when really they're just relying on the US military MT. I'm open minded. I'm gonna be really honest. I don't fear the world order sort of shifting and evolving over time. All right. So the other big news here is that rumors are circulating around DC at the moment that Pambondi and Tolci Gabbard could be on their way out. It's being reported by Semaphore it is, which is Shelby Talcott. She's a serious reporter, so I would say, don't take it too lightly, she says news. The President has informed pam Bondi that her time is a g is nearing an end. Multiple sources tell me formal announcement hasn't yet come, aka all the normal caveats that he could change his mind. He's been speaking with advisors on a possible replacement in recent days, as others have reported this week, and Bondi is aware of that as well. Blake, the timing has been brought into question, right because the big controversy with Pam Bondi was over the Epstein binder. 00:10:26 Speaker 4: We had, yeah, the Epstein binders, the Epstein files. Kind of She's become the punching bag for everyone who's dissatisfied with how the administration handled that a bit, along with Cash Battel, but mostly Bondi. When we did at Amfest, we did a survey of the approval of all of Trump's cabinet members, and basically all of them were really high except Bondi. I think Bondi had twenty five percent disapproval. Even higher she was, I think she was the only one in double digits even of disapproval, And I think that's a real cohort of magnet. In fact, I'd appreciate emails you guys feel about this freedom. I think people have also projected onto her frustration that there's a lot of people who just they want they want Fauci and Dita, they want members of the deep state in data, they want various democrats in data. And there's been a few attempts at that. They haven't fared great in court. Some of them have also failed at the grand jury level. But the point is is she's not delivering scalps that a lot of Mega supporters wanted, and she's a very easy person to blame for all of that. 00:11:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of activity in South Florida. You know, we saw the one subpoena of James Comy. I'm told there's a lot more coming there, so perhaps you know they're you know, waiting is really hard when it comes to this stuff. I think there's a huge chunk of MAGA that just is not going to be satisfied until Anthony Fauci is, you know, arrested and shackled and that sort of thing. I think it's it's a very very hard job. I just want to be very clear the the job that Pam Bondi has is very difficult. So I want to give some at least a dose of grace, right if we had, if we had Mike Davis on, he would probably be very supportive of her efforts thus far. But nonetheless wanted you guys to be aware Pambondi is it's rumored that she is possibly or even probably on her way out. Want to know your thoughts Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com send us your thoughts on PAMBONDI. The other rumor mill is over Tulci Gabbard. This goes back to her congressional testimony. There was some feelings that she did not defend the president. I guess vocally enough when it came to the Iran strikes. I thought she threaded the needle. Obviously, we're very aware that Toulci Gabbard is a non interventionist. That's kind of been her brand for a long time. When she called when she called Hillary Clinton the queen of warmongers, and. 00:12:59 Speaker 4: I think it's fun. It would have been she could say something else and then people would say she's just lying through her teeth. 00:13:04 Speaker 2: There's just no way to win. 00:13:05 Speaker 4: They trot her out here in order to create this drama. 00:13:08 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm less certain about this one. I think Tolci Gabbard, from everything I've heard, has been doing a great job. That being said, you know, it's the president's decision to make. So those are the two rumor mal pieces going around a lot of people saying they've been hearing similar things. Again, I would put Tulsi in a less confident position about what's her future. But Pambondi, these are real news reports, Semaphore Shelby Talcut is a serious reporter. She's got multiple sources that have confirmed that. So Pambondi very well could be nearing the end of her tenure in the Trump administration. 00:13:43 Speaker 4: All right, let us know what you think of that. 00:13:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. The other big news, because there's a lot to get to, was that they have reached a deal. The Senate in the House have come to terms on funding DHS and so the plan ahead. Mike Johnson did a whole comment on it X saying that at first he said that it was a joke. The proposal was a joke. They were the deal was reached that they were going to fund DHS with the exception of ice and customs and border patrol. But they weren't. The Democrats weren't getting any of the concessions. Speaker or Speaker Johnson did not like this at first, said it was a joke. He's now changed his position. They are going to pass full DHS funding minus the border patrol and ice. They're going to include that in a July reconciliation bill. Fund them additionally. There what is important to understand is that ICE and CBP are already funded mostly through the One Big Beautiful Bill, so they have their their paychecks have continued, their work has continued. And the upshot So if you're saying, what do we get out of this, is it a complete fold or not? I happen to not like it. But the upshot here is that they will not get any of the concessions that the Democrats wanted. The Democrats wanted no map, they wanted some other areas of enforcement to be off limits. They basically go onto hamstring, ICE and Customs and Border patrol so on. The silver lining here is that they get none of those concessions. Mass deportations will continue on the enforcement will continue, which is very popular with the base. They'll just have to fund them in the reconciliation bill, which will be another fight, which will be another fight. I don't think that we should ever get into this process of saying, hey, we're going to fund this agency but not this and this, because then it just becomes a race to the bottom of using leverage points against. 00:15:38 Speaker 4: Again, it's just truly despicable. It's this plan to try to the ultimate goal here is to prevent the enforcement of American law to enable the unlimited invasion of America by foreigners, including foreign criminals, including foreign gangsters, including foreign spies. There is no limiting principle for the left, and to do this, they are just going to randomly hurt Americans. It's the honestly, it's the government equivalent of like a school shooting. Just hurt random people in order to get what we want, which is also an evil thing, despicable people. 00:16:13 Speaker 2: This year marks a critical moment for our country as the opposition grows more aggressive and unapologetic. The fight now reaches into the everyday decisions that we make. Patriot Mobile has been standing on the front lines fighting for freedom for more than twelve years. They don't just deliver top tier wireless service. They're activists like me, like you, who truly care about our country. Patriot Mobile offers prioritized premium access on all three major US networks, giving you the same or better coverage than the main carriers. That means fast speeds and dependable nationwide coverage back by one hundred percent US based customer support. They also offer unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, all the things. 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He's a Newsmax legal analyst and now he's the chief compliance officer at Radiance Technologies. Jay, Welcome to the Charliekirkshow. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: It's an honor be with you. And before we get into our chat. Let me just say that, like the tens of millions of households that grew when Charlie was shot, it's really an honor to be here my house was no difference and honor to be with you today. 00:18:06 Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that, and yeah, it means a lot. It still does. So thank you for saying that. I wanted to have you on Jay because I was told you are one of the leading experts in the country when it comes to litigating in the court of law violent crime, understanding the way motions work from the defense and the prosecution and all this. Obviously a lot of news and noise was made when The Daily Mail dropped that headline and it was reporting on the brief from the prosecutor Tyler or the defense attorney for Tyler Robinson, where it said the bullets did not match and you have some insight here to help us understand how to make more sense of this. I think we did a great job the day after this story launched, but I'm not done with it because I'm still upset about I need to hit this like this was such a dishonest headline by the Daily Mail and it was run with by other dishonest people. Yeah, you have a lot of experience in this. We don't have a lot of time with you. What did you make of the headline and the underlying evidence. 00:19:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, nowhere in any report, in any reporting, either from the government, the ATF, or any of the filings from the state of Utah, does it say anything does not match. And I spent most of my adult life prosecuting violent crimes, that includes homicides. Most of those homicides involved firearms. So ATF ballistics reports what we call firearms and tool marketing reports, I've seen hundreds of them, and I can tell you that when it says unable to identify, which is all the report says, that does not equal nor is that term the equivalent of does not match. Unable to identify is describing the rifling characteristics on the fragmented round that was found in Charlie Kirk's body. And what that means. So inside of every long gun in the barrel, there's there's you see those little stripes, that's rifling. Those impressions are made upon the round when it is fired, and because of the way it tumbles, sometimes when it hits a person or a wall or whatever, it might be, they're unable at ATF the forensic experts, and they are the absolute best in the world at this through their Niven system and through their correlation system of finding out even if there's just a little bit whether or not the rifling matches the actual rifle. But what there's two things in every firearm and tool mark report the rifling which they were unable to identify it because it was so degraded, the round that was found, but also the caliber class of that of that round, which is almost always determinable. Now, what that is is the the projectile it's round at the at the base and the diameter of that is is the class of the caliber. Now, the rifle that we found was a thirty hot six, which fires a thirty caliber class round. And what was missing from the defense counsel's motion, uh in his mouth or her mouth rather, is what caliber class that round was. I will bet all the money in my pocket against all the money in yours Andrew that the ATF report describes this round as a thirty caliber class round. There's only a couple of rifles that fired that type of round. If it was a twenty two, let's say, caliber class, which would be a five to five to six or two two three round, So like an M sixteen that would have been what they led with because it couldn't have been the thirty Hodd six. It doesn't fire a two two three or a. 00:21:46 Speaker 2: Five five six round. So yeah, yeah, let's let's pick up that. 00:21:50 Speaker 4: So you're saying, really, what we need to look at is not so much what the defense says, it's what they're not saying. 00:21:55 Speaker 2: The dog that didn't bark. 00:21:56 Speaker 3: Here, that's that's exactly right, and it's an in the defense lawyer knows that the defense lawyer with this motion, they're buying time. As someone who's tried capital murders, I can tell you that you know time is your friend. The longer these things drag out for the family, for the state, for the witnesses, the better your case as a defendant gets. Now, I will say there is a mountain Before coming on the show today, I reread the indictment against Tyler Robinson. There is just in that, and I would suggest to everyone that there is another mountain of evidence that has not been disclosed and is not public yet, like, for instance, that this is a thirty caliber class round that was found in Charlie Kirk. But there is a mountain of evidence, admissions from Tyler Robinson to his roommate, to his mother, to his father. There's a piece of paper with an emission on it where he texted his roommate to look under the keyboard. His DNA is on the spent cartridge. Remember there was one shot fired and there's no shellcasing found at the scene that suggests a bolt action rifle. You know what was found also at the scene, a thirty six miles or nine bolt action rifle. His DNA's on that rifle, all the spent rounds or the one spent round two of the three shell cartridges. There's CCTV footage showing his ingress and egress to his firing spot on the roof. And guess who recognized him, his mother and his father. There's not another shooter, there's not another gun. There's not another person culpable or guilty of the murder of Charlie Kirk. It's Tyler Robinson. He's sitting in a Utah Joie waiting trial right now. 00:23:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just what your insight here is I think really important, Jay that it's what the defense did not say in that motion, they did not contend the caliber of the round, which is something that's a huge, huge, and I didn't even have eyes to see that that I needed to look for that. You saw that because you've read so many of these motions over the years and read somebody these eighth reports that you instantly knew that if they had, if the defense knew that it was a different round based on the ATF report, which we haven't read, that they would have led with that that would have been their first point that they made in that motion. They didn't, which means they sort of biomission admitting that it's a thirty caliber. 00:24:18 Speaker 3: Absolutely biomission. It is well as you said, it's by what they did not say, and the reason they didn't say it is because they know that that is in the report. It would be otherwise very very useful sculptory evidence. But since it is in the report, it directly matches, to use the media's term anyway, by the way, unable to identify and does not match. Once again, do not mean the same thing, but it wouldn't match if it was a twenty two caliber. But you know what it does because it's a thirty caliber. And I'll tell you this too. I can't tell you how many murderers I've prosecuted. There are assaults involving a firearm where we couldn't identify the rifling because the round was so degraded that we were able to examine. It's very common. Like I said, the ATF is the absolute best in the world at identifying rifling characteristics and also examining for the caliber class and they always get it right. And so the defense lawyer mentioned that they might use the ATF report as exculpatory app Go ahead, knock yourself out, because we'll throw an expert on the stand, we being the good guys that says, no, this is the exact type of round that is used in that Mauser ninety eight bolt action thirty odd six rifle. It's the same kind. And how many rounds were fired one, how many spent shellcasings were found? One was his DNA on that spent showcasing. Yes, I mean it is overwhelming evidence. And his intent is overwhelming too, that he intended to kill Charlie Kirk that fateful day. 00:25:56 Speaker 2: Why would the defense want to drag this out dive into that more? You said, that's their goal is really to like delay. Are they trying to spread conspiracy? Are they? Are they they must be aware of the conspiracy culture that's emerged. Are they trying to play into that to potentially taint the jury? Is that? What would that be a motive that you could divine from this? 00:26:16 Speaker 5: Sure? 00:26:17 Speaker 3: I mean, so part of it is the delay, you know, because okay, we need our expert now, and that's going to take six months to a year, and this is all to drag it out. That's part of it, I don't I mean, the trial date could get moved obviously, and onward and so forth. But they're aware of the conspiracy theorists, the whack jobs that are on the internet, and even in you know, print media with a headline that says does not match. That was all over it was USA today, it was others. They were just wrong. It's dishonest that it is. They were. It's just actual, factually and forensically incorrect to make that statement that it does not match. It shows how little the left knows or the people twisting their mustache no about firearms, right, especially about firearms tool marking tests that the ATF provides. So I'm sure they're willing to you know. My experience is they're absolutely willing to taint the jeweling jury pool with this, this sort of cast of little bits of doubt here and there, so that you know that when twelve people are sitting in the box, it actually might go their way with one of those people. But as soon as it comes out, hopefully the state will file something soon that will mention the thirty caliber class of this particular fragmented round, so that we can you can have me back on and you'll owe me all the money in your pocket, Andrew, because I will. 00:27:37 Speaker 2: I'm not betting against you, Jay. 00:27:40 Speaker 3: The ATF will have been proven correct, and also the professionals they are. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay, thank you so much for I think that was such an important insight. And again we're not rushing to judgment here. We want the legal process to play out. This is the system we have, and I fully expect Tyler Robinson's defense to mount a rigorous defense. That's what they're supposed to do. So j Town, thank you so much. This was great, really really important insight, and we will have you back on. You have a quite the resume, Thank you, sir. Thank you, Hi folks, Andrew Colvett. Here i'd like to tell you about my friends over at y Refi. 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Uh Fox is reporting that Pam Bondi has already been fired as Attorney General. Cabinet official Teed up as replacement. According to sources, EPA director Lee Zelden is reportedly being considered as Bondi's replacement after a White House meeting Tuesday. So that's let's break it. 00:29:35 Speaker 4: We got about forty emails in five minutes, I think, just after we asked what people thought, doesn't doesn't, just filled up the entire Gmail screen. Uh, so clearly inspired a lot of passion. We know a lot of people, uh and I couldn't read all of them, but it looks like a lot of people did want Bondi to go. 00:29:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Our next guest is ready. I want to get to it. Scott h koop Or. He's the off of Personnel Management director and they have a big new initiative. It feels very central to the mission of this show and to the mission of turning Points. I wanted to make some time Scott, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. 00:30:12 Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for having me. Really great to be here. 00:30:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you guys have this huge new initiative at the Office of Personnel Management hiring gen Z and I think it's absolutely the right message to send, So tell us about this please. 00:30:26 Speaker 8: Yeah, though, and we're thankful to have the updated to talk to you about it, because obviously you all are the leaders here in terms of this audience. So let me just give you the background real fast. So about seven percent of the federal workforce is under the age of thirty and if you look at the workforce more generally, that's about twenty two to twenty three percent, so by a factor about three to one. You know, the very simple way to say it is the federal government has done a very poor job of attracting kind of young people to decide to spend some time and you know, commit some public service and do some good for the country. So what we've done is launch a new program. We're we're coordinating with all the agencies across government, and we put out a call, centralized call for anybody who is interested in We're starting with five career areas, so technology, roles, human resources, financial services, program management, and then contracting and procurement. These are jobs that are kind of well distributed across all the agencies and government, and we're about to kick off a very broad recruiting effort. And you know, your leadership here is fantastic. In fact, you may know this, but we're going to actually have a presence tonight at the event that you're hosting at George Washington University. 00:31:30 Speaker 5: At six point three tonight. 00:31:31 Speaker 8: So for anybody who's in the DC area and is interested in being patriotic and helping support the government in all the wonderful work that we're doing, please come see us. 00:31:39 Speaker 2: Well, this is amazing. So I think you know, I don't know what the rules are, so I'm not trying to break any rules, but I would love to get you a bunch of graduating seniors their cvs over to the to the Office of Personnel Management. I think this is amazing, and I'm sure, yeah, you sent. 00:31:56 Speaker 8: Them, you sent them to us, and we'll we'll take care We'll take care of it. 00:31:58 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, they got it. They gotta they gotta meet the mark just like everybody else. They've gotta they gotta have excellence and merit. And I'm not I'm not asking for special favors, but I know a bunch of graduating seniors that I'm sure would be looking for some jobs and uh could be a great fit for this administration. So that's amazing. Go over drilled down just a little bit further in the areas that you're looking for is to fill these positions, and any idea of how many positions we're looking because obviously, I'll be honest, I'm a little bit biased. I want to see the federal workforce numbers decrease. 00:32:33 Speaker 8: As as do as do I by the way, right, yeah, maybe let me give. 00:32:36 Speaker 2: You perspective on that that needle. Yeah yeah, all right. 00:32:39 Speaker 8: Let me frame it here to make sure you don't think we're going crazy. So I mentioned that only seven percent of the workforce today is under the age of thirty, and that's you know, well under indexed. On the other side of the federal workforce, close to half of our population is over the age of fifty, and so we'll likely retire over the next five, ten, fifteen years. So while I agree with you I'm a small government, but I think we're I'm probably not a no government person. So we actually will need some people to do the jobs of the American people. So part of this is we've got to solve this democratic demographic imbalanced problem. Right, we just have a pending problem that we got to solve. The second thing we're trying to solve here is, Look, we just need people who've got skills that are representative in you know, kind of this generation of talent. 00:33:21 Speaker 5: So I'll give an example. 00:33:22 Speaker 8: On the technology side, there's a tremendous amount of modernization effort that we're doing in the government. So we launched something called tech Force fairly recently, and tech Force is part of this early career program, but it's specific to obviously technology jobs, and we need people who understand modern software development, who understand you know, AI technologies, who understand data science. So those are specific areas where quite frankly, that skill gap is preventing the government from being able to do the things that we need to do to modernize. And look, as you well know, modernization is the key towards efficiency. So if we actually modernize and use technology we're appropriate, then we will have a much more efficient government that we'll able to actually do the work of the American people without quite frankly bankrupting you know, my kids or grandkids and certainly you know the generation that I know you talked to you quite a bit. So that's one big area of technology. The other area is there's a bunch of jobs that just lend themselves well to people who need to be trained. So there are a ton of HR related jobs in governments and human resources. There's a ton of financial analyst jobs and these are all roles where you know, we can take people who are smart people. Many of them are coming out of college. And by the way, you mentioned college. I just want to make sure you understand it's okay if people don't go to college. So one of the things that this administration is doing is we're eliminating college degree requirements for almost every job classification because in our mind, look, we want to hire people for the skills and the merit they have. And you know, it's great if they went to college. But by the way, if they're incredibly skillful and they know what they're doing and they can perform the jobs we need, we shouldn't discriminate against them because maybe they don't have the financial means to go to college, or they just didn't factor into their life plans. So that these are all kind of priorities working on. 00:34:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, or like Senator Mark wynnmull and his dies and he takes over the planning business, blows it into a multimillion dollar business and he's an entrepreneur. We need more of that absolutely as well. So yeah, so we'll add graduating high school seniors to the if they're not planning. 00:35:12 Speaker 4: On ghosts, it's I want to really, I guess to any young people out there, you should strongly look into applying for this, because what do we all complain about as conservatives. We complain about the fact the deep state, the government it's full of left wing career bureaucrats who are extremely difficult to dig out. And the way that you fix that is actually we get young people who have pro American values, who are not left wing barnacles like you get them into government, and then that is how you allow this country to perpetuate into the decades in the future, because as we know, once you get into government, it's hard to get you. 00:35:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and so you want job security here you go, by the way, well fair enough. So I would just say, you know what DC votes about ninety five to five Democrat. Well let's get some Let's get some turning point grads in there and make it like ninety ten, you know, eighty five fifteen. I'm going to end it here, Scott with your guys beautiful ad that you made for this SOT eight. 00:36:12 Speaker 9: Every day Americans wake up and go to work, building, protecting and shaping a better future. It's our rich legacy. Since the founding of our republic, service has been part of who we are. In uniform or out, Americans always rise above for country, for community, for each other. Through two hundred and fifty years. When duty has called, Americans have answered loudly. Now it's your turn today, more than ever, our government needs its best and brightest problem solvers, innovators, and leaders to serve those opportunities are here. Serve your country, build your career, make an impact that your country is calling. Start your mission today. 00:37:08 Speaker 2: Scott, beautiful peace, thank you for coming on. 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That day is the first day of Passover, and I thought it was particularly apropos to take this high Jewish holiday and come on the show to honor Charlie. 00:39:11 Speaker 5: Charlie, you live on in our hearts and minds. 00:39:14 Speaker 2: Amen. Yeah, we actually played a clip and it'll it'll air tomorrow actually, but the of just talking Charlie reflecting on how Eastern Passover always overlap and what an important season this is for Christians and Jews. So it's great to have you, sir. There's so much suicidal empathy going on. Let me give you your your proper dues here. Uh, Doctor Gad said, you are the scholar at the Declaration of Independent Center for the Study of American Freedom. For a Lebanese born man, that is quite the quite the jump. But you do love this country, You love American freedom, you love the West, and that's at the University of Mississippi. You are also you have a forthcoming book, The Suicidal Empathy U and I just love the cover. If you guys could throw this up. Yeah, you got the sheep. Sheep on their free the wolves time to bed. It's kind of the it's kind of a take on the you know, I guess the Chick fil A you know where they're always trying to say, you know that the cow the cow take you know, eat the cows anyway, so this is actually the cow say I get more chicken. So anyways, but it's a great, great cover there. And we've been hearing about you writing this book for some time. So when does it come out so people can pre order? Let's just start there, doctor. 00:40:34 Speaker 5: Said, thank you so much. 00:40:36 Speaker 6: May twelfth, twenty twenty six, so in about six weeks. But if I can just engage in some shameless plugging, it's really important if you can actually pre order the book, because what happens is that all the amass pre orders, then when the book is released, they all count as sales on that first day. So if the book can immediately hit the best seller list, then that becomes an avalanche. So please, if you're interested in this topic, go out and pre order it asap. 00:41:03 Speaker 2: So there are go buy the book. It's really important. I think it is the key to understanding the future of the West. Are we going to survive as we currently are constructed, as we currently understand ourselves, or are we going to commit cultural suicide? I think the first topic. There's so many to get to. There's Islamification, there's energy policy, there's cultural issues, spiritual issues. 00:41:27 Speaker 4: I think it's Lammification's got to be the first. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: Well, well, hold on, I mean we'll get there because we have to get there because just because of his own biography, doctor Sad's biography out of Lebanon and what's happened in that country. But I have to start with my personal pet favorite, which is birthright citizenship, which I believe is a suicide pact that a country would make, especially in this day and age of air travel, that the founders and the drafters of the fourteenth Amendment would have never conceived. Couldn't have conceived of jets that can fly from South Africa direct to Los Angeles. They wouldn't have. But here's the thing. It is a suicide pack, a trojan horse where we now have to our own laws, bind us to our own constitution, binds us to letting in CCP spies that can then determine an election if they get millions of voters that live in China but can vote in America. Why strike us militarily if we just are letting them in the front door. What is your take on birthright? 00:42:26 Speaker 6: I mean, I couldn't agree with you more. Of course, the old maxim demography is destiny is exactly what you're alluding to. And to your earlier point when you kindly introduce me as a scholar at Old miss and you said, you know, here's the Lebanese guy who's defending American freedoms. The American spirit is enshrined within the DNA of our value systems. Right, It's not the fact that you're born in the United States through you know, the birthright nonsense, that makes you American. 00:42:56 Speaker 5: It's whether you've. 00:42:57 Speaker 6: Internalized a set of values and of codes that uniquely defines American exceptionalism. And so even though I'm not born in the United States, even though I'm officially now Canadian, I venture to say that I'm a lot more of an American than people who just come to the US, PLoP down a kid, and then voila, he becomes American. So I couldn't be more in agreement with you and the quicker that they they meaning the United States changes that law, the better it will be for everyone. 00:43:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I you know, I try not to do this, but I did just tweet out something that I think is central. I didn't come up with this idea, but we had Molly Hemingway and Sean Davis from the Federalists, and we're talking with them, and I just said, no great nation would allow a loophole that allows communist birth tourists to vote in its election and bestow citizenship on the children of those who broke the nation's law to enter the country in the first place. No great nation would allow themselves to get played like that. And I just the fact that the legal scholars are telling me it's probably gonna go seven to against getting rid of this ridiculous policy that the entire rest of the world seem to have gotten rid of by about two thousand and five. It breaks my heart because I feel grieved internally that we would be so dumb, that we would be so hamstrung by idiocy. You know, at least the Greeks when they were letting in the Trojan horse, they didn't know what was inside of it. We know what's inside of this Trojan horse. 00:44:27 Speaker 4: And I had my own take, which is really the bleak thing. If the Supreme Court rules that way, you know, we don't know the full law. Maybe there's some dumb reason they can justify it, but okay, it should be pretty simple to change the law, to have a Congress that says, oh, Chinese oligarchs don't get to just buy kids from America and their citizens. Tourists can't just sail a boat ten miles off shore, drop a kid on that boat and they're a citizen for life. Like that's an absurd thing, and our Congress should. 00:44:53 Speaker 2: Be ready to ban it. 00:44:54 Speaker 4: And I think this gets back to your big point. It's suicidal empathy that makes us refuse to do this obvious thing. 00:45:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, indeed, I'm no, go ahead, I was gonna say, and I don't. 00:45:05 Speaker 6: Maybe you're not ready to segue into the Islam issue, but it really is relevant to what we're talking about here, where you sort of become impotent to implement you know, auto corrective mechanisms that are complete common sense. 00:45:18 Speaker 5: Right. So I often hear from esteemed American lawyers. 00:45:21 Speaker 6: Hey, professor sad doctor said, I I completely get your story with Islam, but you know, unfortunately we have freedom of religion here, and I say, really, so you actually think that there is no mechanism that you could come up with that would then auto correct the fact that not all religions are equally congruent with the foundational ethos of the United States, Right, So, and I often do this satirical uh you know, dialogue where I say, you know, some some guy, some immigrant from that region, says I want to kill you, I want to rape you, I want to destroy your heritage, I want to destroy your religion, I want to destroy your culture. And then some American lawyer says, hey, you're not allowed to say that. That's incitement to violence. And then the noble immigrant response, no, but that's in my religion. 00:46:11 Speaker 5: I have freedom of religion. Oh okay, sorry, carry on. 00:46:14 Speaker 6: So it really is, in its astounding form of impotent, suicidal empathy to say that we are somehow hamstrung, as you said, by these codes that could never be there inherrant and they can never be changed, and if it has to be that we commit civilizational seppuku, so be it. 00:46:33 Speaker 2: Jeezh the way he said, yeah, it feels like we get stuck in these ideological cul de sacs because of the myths that we've told ourselves. One of the myths I believe is that we are a nation of immigrants, and I want to get into that history because we're actually a nation of settlers. In my opinion, you could disagree with me, Doctor sad that includes immigrants waves when it makes sense for us, and then we're able to stop it when it stops making sense for us. Doctor said, for those who don't know your bio, just really quickly give it. To give us your bio in about two minutes. 00:47:07 Speaker 6: So I was born in the nineteen sixties in Lebanon. We were part of the last, very small, dwindling group of Lebanese Jews that had steadfastly refused to leave Lebanon, perhaps wrongly, so when the Civil War broke out in nineteen seventy five, it became impossible to be Jewish, so we ended up leaving Lebanon. Miraculously, we made it out of there on one of their return trips to Lebanon to deal with some of their business interests. 00:47:33 Speaker 5: My parents were. 00:47:35 Speaker 6: Kidnapped by Abu Nidhal's group Fatah, and so all of the things that you've seen since October seventh is stuff that is called my childhood, and eventually we made it to Canada. And then of course I went to study in the United States and never thought that I would be facing the jew hatred that I now see on a daily basis all over the place. So that's sort of my personal history my academic history. I've been a professor for thirty two years. My main area is to apply evolutionary psychology to study human behavior in general and consumer behavior in particular. I realized very quickly that academia was lathen with insane parasitic ideas. That's what led me to write The Parasitic Mind. But that book explained what happens to your mind when it is parasitized. 00:48:20 Speaker 5: By ideological capture. 00:48:23 Speaker 6: Suicidal empathy completes the story by explaining what happens to your emotional system when it is hijacked. If I can hijack your thinking and feeling system, I own you. 00:48:34 Speaker 2: And you know, I think that I did not know that about your parents. By the way, doctor said, Oh, you didn't know that, No, I didn't. I didn't realize that. I knew that you had fled Lebanon for some reason. You end up in Canada, which was you know, which is unfortunate. I'm sorry, but if anybody's going to understand the parasitic mind, it would be somebody who's lived in Canada and suicidal empathy. We played the clip yesterday on the show and just had so much fun with it. Of that's what's the name of the party. It's this far left party, the. 00:49:05 Speaker 4: New Democratic Party. 00:49:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were talking about their their equity cards and their point of personal privilege. I just I could admit it's it's but Blake made a great point. It's laughable, it's cartoonish, it's fun to make fun of, but boil boys, that's serious stuff. It's serious stuff because it's one step away from you know, gen z adopting a lot of that stuff and being mainstreamed in America too. All Right, doctor sat I'm gonna tell you what I believe. I think Blake agrees with me. But it's okay if you don't completely. If you go back through America's history, we had this huge immigration wave between the eighteen eighties and about nineteen twenty, and they set the in the nineteen twenties, it had an immigration Act with a quota system that was overturned by Heartseller in the nineteen sixties. The people that fought in the nineteen twenties for that immigration quota system did not consider America to be a nation of immigrants. It was a mis that was created after World War Two to bring everybody together in this wave of Polish and Irish and Italian immigrants. But before that, they did not want this new wave of Eastern and Southern Europeans because they were too Catholic, or the culture, they weren't Anglo enough, or whatever. We were a nation of settlers. And the people that warned then about this new wave of immigrants had a point because it then embedded this idea that we're a nation of immigrants and that we sort of have what's the word, the expression, the blank slate, right, this blank slate of humanity. It doesn't matter if you're Muslim, it doesn't matter if you come from the Third World, You'll be an American just it's a piece of paper. I hate this myth. I want to destroy this myth. And I'm saying it to a Lebanese man who I believe is like fully American at this point. So help me make sense of this. What are your thoughts on the history that we just went through. 00:50:55 Speaker 6: Well, I completely agree with you, actually look into empathy. I talk about this classic categorization error that frankly, if you're if you're, if you have greater cognitive acuity than a three day old pigeon, you should be able to not be committing this error. And let me explain what it is. Your Your cat Fidle is a feeline. So is the wild lion in the jungle who would happily eat you. They're both called feline. The fact that they're both feline doesn't mean that when I'm on a safari in Botswana and I see a feline, I say, oh, let me get out of my jeep so I can cuddle with the wild lion because he's a feeline, just like the cat I have at home. 00:51:37 Speaker 5: So, but when you. 00:51:38 Speaker 6: Say all immigrants are equal in the way that the progressively suicidely empathetic people do, they're saying that there is no inherent differences between the values that might come with one set of immigrants versus another. And I will receive tons of hate mail gentlemen, where people say, well, you are such a degenerate hypocrite. You are an immigrant, so is your buddy Elon Musk so you are immigrants who can come here, but Mohammad and Ahmad who went to a summer camp in Afghanistan can't also be perfectly nice Arkansas immigrants. 00:52:15 Speaker 5: But that's what the categorization error is. 00:52:17 Speaker 6: Right, When you say all immigrants are equal, you're simply saying that once they become members of the host society, they're treated equally under the law. But the idea that we all come with the exact same baggage. To your point about the Latin term, by the way, for empty slate is tabila raza. We're not tabila raza, right, So it's not surprising, for example, if you let in millions of people that come from societies where they've been surveyed and shown to have ninety five ninety six percent of those surveyed have endemic Jew hatred. So when these people come to the host societies, what do you think is going to happen? Is jew hatred going to go up or going or it's going to go down? And so all the politicians are their head and saying, what's causing all this Jew hatred? Well, maybe because you've imported millions of people that have a genocidal hatred toward the Jews. 00:53:08 Speaker 4: Well, novel thought. 00:53:09 Speaker 2: Novel thought. It's also you know what bothers me about this whole thing is I am sort of like a product of this tabula raza ideology because I remember growing up being very much brainwashed into thinking that all everybody's the same and there is no differences. You know, we all was you hear these things like ninety nine point eight five percent of your DNA is the same as somebody. Nobody's arguing any of that. Everybody isn't it made in the image and likeness of God. Everybody has dignity before the eyes of the Creator and equality in our laws. But it's also common sense, like once you break the parasite in the brain, like once you break through and you get red pilled or whatever you want to call it. It's so frustrating how stupidly common sense this is. And this is one of the reasons why you know, there's a you know, people are talking about MAGA and the coalition fracturing. I will always have respect for President Trump because of one thing. I have a lot of respect for President Trump, but one thing. He came down that golden escalator and he just started throwing bombs about stuff that was these pieties you were not allowed to address. He called dumb wars, dumb wars, God bless him for that. Before that we weren't allowed to talk about he called free trade or he said it was ripping off America and it was you know, it was hollowing out our manufacturing base. He was right about that. These were pieties you were not allowed to address. And then he said, you know, he said, they're sending rapists and murders over here, and I suppose some are nice people. You were not allowed to say that stuff. And I remember jumping for joy because at that point I'd become completely convinced our immigration policies were just insanity. Jumping for joy that he had the guts to say it, and that was the first step. 00:54:54 Speaker 6: One minute me, Oh yeah, Let me just mention very quickly about the sort of the tabla razap remise. The reason why that parasitic idea is so ubiquitous everywhere, so pervasive, is because it is rooted in a form of unicornea hope. 00:55:11 Speaker 5: Right. 00:55:12 Speaker 6: It is really nice for me, as a prospective parent to think that when my child is born, he or she could be the next Lionel Messi, Michael Jordan, or Albert Einstein. 00:55:22 Speaker 5: It's nice to know that there. 00:55:23 Speaker 6: Are no quote innate individual differences in biological potentiality. 00:55:29 Speaker 3: Right. 00:55:29 Speaker 6: We could all be the next Michael Jordan if only we're hugged enough or not hugged enough. So the reason why these parasitic ideas work so well is because they cater to this fundamental unicornea optimism that most of us carry. 00:55:44 Speaker 2: Especially in America. I will say, you know we and this is why I think our foundational myths it's the software that's running in the background of our brains that we think are these eternal truths, but actually they're myths. Like America is a nation of immigrants, Well, we have immigrants, but we're actually a nation that was founded by settlers. Okay, that's a core myth that we have to deconstruct. And Tabla Rasa is another one. 00:56:13 Speaker 4: Hey, everyone, we're excited to tell you about Charlie's favorite supplement. If you experience brain fog, low energy, frequent illnesses, or if you just wake up stiff and achy every day, you've got to try strong cell Charlie took it every single day. He frequently talked about it on the show, and he even traveled around the country bringing it with him. 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So we're gonna play the a clip from you and Charlie st nine. 00:58:56 Speaker 1: The Islam is all about power and leftism is all about power. Maybe that's also what they have in common. 00:59:02 Speaker 6: Exactly, they both despise the West. So because we both despise the West, we will join in unison and trying to get rid of the West. But of course the leftists don't recognize that once Islam becomes ascendant, they will be decapitated just like the rest of us. 00:59:21 Speaker 2: That is a This is quite de capitated. 00:59:26 Speaker 4: That's why Charlie liked you. You had that frank way of talking. He likes to he likes to quote, I think you the the West, the islamis West as. 00:59:34 Speaker 2: A woman to be that clip, we have that clip. Let's play that, all right. 00:59:39 Speaker 1: What would you said, the West is a woman to be mounted. That is the Islamic creed. 00:59:44 Speaker 5: Remind us of it. 00:59:45 Speaker 6: I would repeatedly hear from Arabic speaking Muslim speaking immigrants, in this case it was in Canada always say that the West is a woman to be mounted. 00:59:57 Speaker 5: And what the. 00:59:58 Speaker 6: Reflex that that capture is that all of the virtues that we think as laudable in the West, compassion, magnanimity, generosity, empathy are heard as weakness, weakness, weakness, and weakness by cultures that don't necessarily share our infinite larges. And so it's exactly what they're saying, West is week it's a woman. 01:00:25 Speaker 5: Therefore really quickly, So. 01:00:27 Speaker 6: I'm going to share as relating to that clip, something that just happened in Quebec, my home province. 01:00:35 Speaker 5: So there was a gentleman you're ready, drum roll. His first name is Mohammad. 01:00:42 Speaker 2: Yes, he was. 01:00:44 Speaker 6: Caught in many, many different clips, but the one that made it viral. He was caught on a clip where he had been stopped by a female police officer Montreal police officer, interacting with her, and the things that he was saying are exactly like to the word when I said, you know, the West is a woman to be mounted. So I won't repeat it here, not to soil the ears of your listeners, but it's all about I'm going to f this to you, I'm going to do f this to your mother, and so on and so forth. 01:01:19 Speaker 5: So that's the mindset, right, Mike is right. 01:01:22 Speaker 6: Therefore, men in those cultures, you know, are the rulers of women, and therefore you. 01:01:29 Speaker 5: Can imagine what that implies. 01:01:31 Speaker 6: So they see the West as this feminized weak, you know, suicidally empathetic woman that deserves to be mounted, as per this Mohammad guy being stopped by the female cop. 01:01:43 Speaker 2: So let's let's just import a few million more. That'd be great, yeah, I think. 01:01:51 Speaker 6: And by the way, the way that you're able to justify that if you're a suicidally empathetic person, and maybe we'll get into this more in later segments, is that as long as those progressive folks can identify their neighbor Ahmad, who's a very sweet guy who's gay, who's married to a Jewish man and who eats proshutto and drinks vodka, that is the true representation of Islam. So I only have to come up with one person who seems to fit in within Western liberties, and voila, that becomes Islam, and all of those other things that also seem to be linked to Islam are false Islam. Ahmed, my neighbor is the real Islam. 01:02:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Charlie tried to navigate that dynamic by separating micro from macro. Right, we all know is Muslims that are nice people that are probably bad Muslims. Though that's the point, Like the Muslims that you like are probably bad Muslims, and the Muslims that we all don't like are probably the ones that are reading this. 01:02:55 Speaker 4: And something I like to point out to Charlie and he listened to me on it. It's that sometimes people would say Islam needs a reformation, like the Protestant Reformation, and you have to tell them Islam did have a reformation. It's the silophism that you see. It's that in the eighteen hundreds they looked around and said, we're losing all these fights to the West. It must be because we got away from true Islam. Let's be super fundamentalist about it. And that's what gave us Islamic fundamentalism. It's not even stuff that's been around forever. It's they got really intense about it in the last one hundred, one hundred and fifty years. 01:03:26 Speaker 2: And this is what we. 01:03:27 Speaker 6: See, slightly more optimistic than the history that I know. You're making him seem as though they've been rough only for one hundred years. 01:03:34 Speaker 5: A few people would like to remind you that this has been going on for fourteen hundred years. But I understand the spirit of what you're saying. 01:03:41 Speaker 2: All right, doctor said. There are so many areas in which suicidal empathy comes into play. Islamification is a huge one. And Blake has been doing He's got two stories. You've got this Michigan guy and. 01:03:55 Speaker 4: There's a couple of very symbolic ones in the last few days, and I think they're both worthy of note. First is they have local elections are coming up in Britain. Charlie visited Britain last spring. He saw Arabic language, Arabic script on all the stores. It just felt very foreign. He felt it when he was in Oxford and Cambridge and now Birmingham not even a city he went to, but it's one of the most Islamified cities. And just for context, Birmingham is where the Industrial Revolution was born. It was the Silicon Valley of the eighteen hundreds. It's where so much innovation happened. Now Islamified polling for the city council election in Birmingham, the number one party is going to be it's not going to be a party, it's going to be an independent Islamist Alliance slate. They are favored to come in first place with thirty one seats out of about a huh, about one hundred it looks like, and so they'll be Islamist party running the largest city in Britain. It's something we haven't seen in Britain since Muhammad came out of the desert. And the other story that's really compelling. There's a Democrat Senate contender in Michigan. He's running in the primary, and he said they got recording for him. In a recording of him in the Washington Freebeacon, he was telling voters he had to stay silent about the killing of the Ayatola Hameni because he says, many of the Muslim voters he is interacting with in Dearborn in that area around Detroit are very sad about the Ayatola's demise. So he's going to remain silent on that issue, but they got that recording. So two very profoundly symbolic stories. I think of what we've allowed to happen to this country, doctor said. 01:05:36 Speaker 5: And can I. 01:05:37 Speaker 6: Those are great examples, of course, and they are part of something that I, if memory serves me, right, I had mentioned the last time that Charlie and I spoke, which is there there's been a blue print that the Moslim Brotherhood among other Islamic groups have been screaming for everybody to listen to. From the top of the mountain. They said, We're going to conquer the way by three means. And the third means is the is related to the two examples that you gave. So first, we're going to conquer the West through the womb of our women, right. Two we're going to conquer the West through hisra. Hisra is the Arabic word for migration. Even Muhammad did hisra from Mecca to Medina. And so of course what does the West do, say, hey, come on in my brothers in the millions. And then the third way, to your point, We're going to conquer the West by using your miserable freedoms against you. And so this is exactly what they're doing. And to your earlier point, Blake, when you said it's not always violent, right, in the fourteen hundred years of history of Islam, not everywhere that they went to they just decapitated everybody. Right, Sometimes it's that. Sometimes it's by imposing very very stringent rules on the non Muslims, forcing them to convert without putting the sword to their neck. Sometimes it's just by letting the model graphy takes its natural toll. So there are many ways by which you can close your eyes and open your eyes and suddenly you went from zero Islam to ninety nine point nine percent Islam. The problem comes from the fact that most people don't have the imagination to be able to extrapolate. Right, So short of you being in Dearborn or in some areas in Minnesota, you think, well, come on, I live in Arkansas, I live in Washington State. I don't see a problem with Islam. Well, that's because the United States is a very, very large country. So it's going to take many hundreds of years before you see Dearborn repeated everywhere. But if you allow it to happen, I will guarantee you inshallah that it will happen. The Birmingham folks are now finding out. 01:07:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean people are as you say, really, they're not good at visualizing the numbers. I think often on an exchange I had when I was way of the Daily Caller, one of the first jobs I had, we had an employee who was from Britain. And this is twenty fourteen, twenty five fifteen, and I'm already then raving about Islamisation of the West, about Britain, and one time he just got exasperated at me. He said, Blake, why do you care about this so much when they're one percent of Britain? And I said, that's where you're wrong. It was probably one percent when you were a kid. And we looked it up and at that point it was already five or six percent of Britain and it was ten fifteen percent of London. And how much does it move then in the decades since when they've kept moving in they've had high birth rates. Britain's haven't had high birth rates. If you're if they're having four kids each and you're having one kid that moves very fast in a single generation. 01:08:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, And if I could, oh, go ahead. 01:08:43 Speaker 5: Sorry, go ahead. 01:08:44 Speaker 6: I was going to say, and I made this analogy with Pierce Morgan, but apparently, you know, my logic was impenetrable to his mind. So take for example, diabetes. If I say, if I am your endochronologist, and I say, hey, sir, you have diabetes, and then imagine if the next day you wake up and say, look, it's been a day since I've had diabetes and nothing's happened to me. Nobody's amputated my extremities. That physician must be an idiot because nothing's happened to me look at me. Well, what he's saying, he or she is saying is that there is a very known trajectory of what will happen to you an x number of time period. If you don't manage your blood sugar level, it doesn't happen overnight. So that's exactly the issue with demography is destiny. Peter Hammond, by the way, I highly recommend that people check them out. He's a preacher, I think out of South Africa. He wrote a book many years ago where he broke down what happens to a society. This is a historical analysis as a function of the percentage of Muslims that are in that society zero to two percent. Oh, they're just the lovely, peaceful, exotic community, you know. Three to five percent, we start being more aggressive in our police engagement, but you know, we're still kind of peaceful, and you could perfectly trace what will exactly happen. So I can show you different countries, you know, France versus Australia versus Canada, and we can put it into the Pete Hammond box to tell you exactly what's happening. But again that goes to the point of people are unable to extrapolate from time T to time T plus N. If we don't solve this problem, we will wake up one day all being called abdued. 01:10:31 Speaker 2: Doctor said, what's the what would pete Pete Hammond? Is that what you said? 01:10:35 Speaker 5: His name was Pete Hammond. 01:10:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the tipping point where they get really aggressive? 01:10:41 Speaker 6: So the aggressive in that you better start putting on running shoes and really run fast. It doesn't take much. By about twenty percent, you're already getting into physical violence. 01:10:54 Speaker 5: Right. 01:10:54 Speaker 6: So again that speaks to the fact that you know, it didn't take one hundred and ninety million terrorists to alter the New York City skyline. 01:11:04 Speaker 5: Right. 01:11:04 Speaker 6: It didn't take one hundred and ninety thousand, It took just nineteen. So the idea that you need, you know, all two billion Muslims to sign up for violence you had for you before you wake up from your stupor is really lacking an extrapolation imagination. 01:11:22 Speaker 2: We're going to end the Islam talk here with a cut from Charlie Top fifteen. 01:11:28 Speaker 1: Islamism has a tendency to take over and metastasize like a cancer. Immigration without assimilation is invasion, and Islam does not assimilate. Islam conquers. Islam takes over. Islam devours Islam is an imperialistic, parasitic ideology. Islam views itself as a conquering faith. You have to pray five times a day, pointing towards a separate nation, pledging fealty to another nation. Islam his own self story is that we will take you over. It's totalitarianism masked as a religion. 01:12:07 Speaker 2: Well said, It's one of my favorite c K rants about this topic. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at y REFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about y Refi for some time. Now, we are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why ref I will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. 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She will be replaced by Todd Blanche who is currently her deputy at the Justice Department. 01:13:58 Speaker 2: So President Trump is uh given a truth social here, Doctor sad, he says. Pam Bondi's great American patriot and a loyal friend who faithfully served as my attorney general. Over the past year. Pam did a tremendous job overseeing a massive crackdown in crime across our country, with murders plummeting to their lowest level since nineteen hundred. I'm sure that would just that just happened. It was just a trend. We love Pam and she will be transitioning to a much needed, important new job in the private sector, to be announced at a date in the near future. And our Deputy Attorney General, the very talented and respected legal mind Todd Blanche, will step into serve as acting Attorney General. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Blake. We reported it and it has come true once again. We did this with Christy No by the way, same deal. 01:14:42 Speaker 4: Well, I think we had an inside scoop on this one. This time. Our scoop was some before. 01:14:46 Speaker 2: But yeah, well yeah, fair enough. The other one was a better call. Todd Blanche is tweeted as well. He says, Pam BONDI led the department with strength and conviction, and I'm grateful for her leadership and friendship. Thank you to President Trump for the trust and opportunity to serve as acting Attorney General. We will continue backing the blue and forcing the law and doing everything in our power to keep America safe, which ties in to this other. I saw this story, doctor Sad, and I got enraged because I've seen people do this to Charlie as well, where people put up murals and then people take them down or they vandalize them, and it's so infuriating to watch. This is out of Providence, Rhode Island, a private business erected a mural to Arina Zarutska to memorialize her in her brutal murder on that train in North Carolina by a repeat criminal who should have never been on the streets. And this mayor is trying to take it down in Providence SOT fourteen for you said. 01:15:40 Speaker 4: The intent behind these murals is divisive and does not represent Providence. The mural's artist sort of feels like he was stifled. 01:15:48 Speaker 11: Do you have any regrets about what you said and how you handle that. I regret the state of where we are in politics today, where absolutely everything is political and controversial and hard. There's nothing we should be doing to take away from the tragedy of the loss of life that was represented here. But then it was distorted by an erroneous tweet by our president, and then a movement was funded by some right wing billionaires and it found its way to our community. A private owner of a building decided to put a mural up that I don't think he understood the full context of. And I was asked whether I thought it should come down, and I thought it should. It certainly wasn't bringing us together as a community. I don't think we're a stronger, more united community because of this mural, and I thought the best thing to do was to just take it down. 01:16:32 Speaker 4: Dear God, that is like the perfect encapsulation of how the left paves. They love to weaponize that utterly bs unify our community, We need to heal. They never believe in that. If you wanted to believe in healing, this is a way to do it. You allow people to put up monuments for people they. 01:16:49 Speaker 2: Like, so in arrest criminals that are killing press criminals. 01:16:52 Speaker 4: And if the left, you know, if they want to put up a statue of Caesar Chavez, you know, go for it. They love Caesar Shavas and then allow us to memorial the people that are murdered by left wingers other national heroes. But they always love to say we need to heal while they're ripping down a statue of a founding father, while they're blotting out a mural of an innocent woman who was butchered. These are not statements of healing. These are not statements of unity. These are statements of domination. He can only visualize the word for him, unity is just I decide what you value, what you believe, what you see, and if you don't like it. Shut up and get out of the way. He's disgusting. 01:17:27 Speaker 2: That is a perfect embodiment of suicidal empathy. It's a weaponization of empathy. The floor is yours. 01:17:34 Speaker 6: Doctor said, Yeah, so I would say, though, I will address susatal empathy as relating to soft on crime policies. But I'm sure that this mayor would have been first in line to hail a mural. 01:17:46 Speaker 5: Of George Floyd. 01:17:48 Speaker 6: That would unify that, that would unify the community. But not this poor beautiful Ukrainian immigrant. Okay, so let's link it to sousado empathy. Sousadal empathy really has several manifestations, one of which is the hyperactivation of empathy, right, But the other part of soucidal empathy is when you know, we all have a fixed tank of empathy that we could met out now. Evolution has endowed us with the capacity to strategically met out our empathy in biologically relevant ways. So if a bus is hurling down at my children or at some random strangers, notwithstanding that I would love to save everybody, I am much more likely to jump in front of the bus to protect my children. Right, even though in a dream world everybody should be saved. What suicidal empathy does is it completely removes the correct targeting of who should be privy to your empathy. So a felon, I call them, by the way, blank slate felons to our earlier and point talking about blank slate felons are born perfectly lovely and it's only society that has made them bad, especially if they are felons of color. So they've already been victimized by the white supremacy of the United States. To now punish them when they've only been arrested one hundred and seventy four times, shouldn't you be giving them as one hundred and seventy fifth second chance. And so it removes the personal agency of these felons, so that all of our empathy is targeting the criminals and not the victims. But I'll add another twist to the criminality dimension of sucidal empathy. Suicidal empathy is so parasitic that even the victims of the crimes feel greater empathy to their felon who victimize them than to themselves. And I'll give you two quick examples. Example, one Norwegian men is sodomized by a Somali immigrant when the Somali immigrant is about to be deported back to so much the guy who had been raped by the Somali guy had a existential breakdown because he felt so guilty that the Somali sodomizer was not going to get a chance to live a flourished life in Mogadishu. 01:20:14 Speaker 5: That's example one. Example two. 01:20:17 Speaker 6: A white American woman went to Haiti to break down the stereotype that black men could be violent. She was held on top of a rooftop by a Haitian man who viciously raped her, and she walked away from that lesson, or. 01:20:34 Speaker 5: From that experience with two lessons. 01:20:36 Speaker 6: It's white supremacy that made him do this because he was so enraged by how he was victimized, and she ended up learning. 01:20:45 Speaker 5: From this experience. So when you have a guy who. 01:20:48 Speaker 6: Is sodomized and a woman who's viciously raped themselves feeling empathy for their rapists, you couldn't have a better poster child of suicidal empathy. 01:20:57 Speaker 5: Jeez. 01:20:58 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm reminded of Sarah Rogers, who has those examples out of the Europe has lost. 01:21:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll get a worse punishment for you know, calling a group of gang rapists, savages or whatever it was, than the rapists themselves will get the pigs something like that. And it's just it's so destructive. I mean, we were also bashing Canada the other day along with everything else. 01:21:24 Speaker 5: That's three Canada free. 01:21:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 01:21:27 Speaker 4: Canada has They just explicitly have racial discrimination in their laws. They say, if you're from a racialized group, because races aren't real, it's just some groups aren't racialized. That's the Canada conceit. Then we have for crimes. 01:21:42 Speaker 6: Forgive me for interrupting, because I'm seeing the countdown. I want to get in as many cool facts for your audience. In Canada, the University of Waterloo, which is sort of the equivalent of Caltech or MIT, a largely engineering computer science school, was hiring Canada research chairs. This is the highest and doubt professorship that Canada has. They wanted to hire AI professors to be competitive in AI, and the job description said that you had to be non binary, too spirit or transgender to hold that position. So the Canadian government that endows this chair does not pick the best AI people. They have to be non binary or to spirit. Canada has Stage five suicidal empathy. 01:22:28 Speaker 2: Doctor Gad said, this was amazing. He's suicidal empathy. Please pick it up. It's been so much fun. Yes, I genuinely believe that this is the vaccine to save the West, and I really mean that, and Elon Musk agrees. Others agree. But thank you, doctor said, it's been. 01:22:47 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Guys, you're a pleasure. Thank you. Cheers. 01:22:50 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com