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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Cook Show. Hour two is underway. It's Anna ask us anything hour to help us navigate. Is Mikey McCoy. He's in the house. Not so special guests you uh you were?
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Speaker 2: One, it's too cold in Phoenix. It's not too hot.
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Speaker 5: The everyone asked how hot it is. No, it's too cold because everything is a seed too much. And that's doubly so for a studio because the equipment can't get too hot. So it's a super cold in here, fifty eight degrees. And two it rains all the time in Phoenix, and so Mikey was rather cold. So he brought in blankets for all of us and they're like just keeping it on their legs.
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Speaker 2: But I decided to.
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Speaker 2: What's going on?
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Speaker 4: Guys?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 1: First, think Andrew really with your team last night?
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Speaker 2: Really?
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Speaker 4: Before I get to my question, you talking about Tuckert Tucker. Oh yeah, four years, two hundred and forty million, six million a year.
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Speaker 2: This, this is this is what I got for you.
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Speaker 4: Hold on, literally, I'm a chat I'm on a chat and this this, I don't know, the studio might revolt. I need you to throw this up on the studio, studio, throw this up.
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Speaker 2: This is what I said. All the haters out there, come on, throw it up. Yeah you're mad, here's a cape. Now you could be super bad.
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So to my question the Insurrection Act, I sit on the fence with it.
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Speaker 1: I understand the purpose of why it should be done.
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Speaker 7: But with the mid terms, could this hurt the GOP because we see Americans like, why this is bad, this is not our country.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to vote against you.
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Speaker 1: Even some Republicans might vote against GOP people.
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Speaker 5: I think I think that's a great question, and it's it really has to be at the heart of everything we do.
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Speaker 2: Let's be real.
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Speaker 5: We live in a country with elections where political issues matter, where the way something looks matters. And we've talked about that a bit on this show. With this Ice showdown that I hope in the White House inside Ice they are having discussions how are we going to handle possible confrontations and showdowns that can happen. So we said, for example, if they're trying to use police, if they follow through on threats to have police directly block ICE or try to arrest ICE officers. Don't wing your response to that. They need to say what should we be What are we telling ICE agents to do if a local police officer tries to detain them for arresting and illegal What should they do if these local police officers are getting in the way. That all has to be planned out. And the same goes for the insurrection, because you're absolutely right, you can't just look like you're stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people or doing random roundups. You have to make that case we're going after malefactor who are recklessly breaking the law. And so frankly, I know our guests were just arguing in favor of it. I personally feel if it's two hundred people around one federal building, I'm not sure I'm sold on Insurrection Act yet that might be send more federal agents and make sure these people are getting arrested before I would go full bore and say we need to call out the military for a few Actually, I actually agree with that.
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Speaker 4: I was thinking about it in the break, and I'm very pro Insurrection Act first of all, because I think you deal with this issue quickly, then it goes away quickly, right, and then we get to focus on which I don't know, fraud and Somalia. And again, remember people have very short term memories, and when you draw these things out too long, it sinks deeper into the subconscious. It's when you get Joe Rogan and other people that are like listen. I think Joe Rogan is the goat of podcasters. I think he's more good than bad. He's wrong about this, and it's because he's a normy. It's because he's not like a policy wonk. He's not thinking through all of this. And secondly, he doesn't understand or is not connected to the fact that these issues that we know and Blake and I fully understand this because we've looked at the fertility rates, we've looked at the long term implications. We are in the process of losing our country. The erasure of American culture is happening now unless we stop it. And I don't want that country from my kids. I don't want third worldism in my country. I don't want a country, you know, ropped by fraud and corruption and you know, Somali pirates.
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Speaker 2: I'm done with it. I don't want it.
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Speaker 4: I want the force to be leveled now when we have the levers of power. That being said, I think you could get basically everything you want without the Insurrection Act. If you search federal forces, you make this thing go away. Zero degree temperatures at night. We're gonna see this this problem go away quicker if you if I think, if you handle it in a suave, smoother way, I don't think you need to go full insurrection all right, Mikey.
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Speaker 2: Break the tie.
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Speaker 8: No pro Insurrection Act. But I do think you need to kind of counterbalance it a little bit, especially going into the midterms, because we should be and could be seen Trump out there campaigning right now and doing massive rallies, and you know when there's crazy news. But then to Andrew's point, the more you talk about it, the more it's an obsession, the more it has this like microscope on it, and any any small mistake, people just like hyper fixate too.
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Speaker 2: But this is why they fund the protest too.
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Speaker 4: This is why why why Soros seed money some of these these far left groups, because you can get two hundred people and you could shave off five points of popularity for Trump.
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Speaker 2: Two hundred people.
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Speaker 8: But if everybody's focusing right now on everything that that ICE is doing, why don't we use the opportunity to put Fauci in prison and do some other crazy stuff to make some news.
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Speaker 4: You know, well, I mean that's not a bad idea. Ah well, listen, I know the base would love that. I mean, here's the thing there is, we have to confront this this fact. I mean, everybody here at this table wants demand and demands results right away. We want all these people gone, we want mass deportations. We want frankly, I want a net zero immigration moratorium something Charlie and I talked about a lot. I want us all of these things right and these are the things that are really going to deliver results, voter id everything. But when you start getting into these militarized street altercations, you just have to understand that the vast majority of the country is not thinking down the road like we are. They're thinking about their video games, they're thinking about grocery bills, they're not thinking about the replacement that's happening in the country and want real results now, and so you just have to understand that and play that out politically. Plus We live in the era of social media where every freaking video you know, you think about insurrection acts has been called what seventeen times in US history times and the thirty seventeen presidents by seventeen presidents. None of these really happened in the modern media era. The closest analog we would have parallel was LA in ninety two, and that was still like over the shoulder cameras, right. We didn't have social media, phones and all of the things. So the whole calculus has to be approached differently. That's why I think you almost have to You have to be subtler. You have to sort of try and make the crowds disperse, attack one by one, get it done quick.
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Speaker 5: And there's an interesting thing to think about this. Do you know what the mandate of heaven is?
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Speaker 2: I want to say yes, the Chinese.
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Speaker 5: The Chinese historically have a concept, yeah, the mandate of heaven, which is that a ruler, a ruler who is good will have the mandate of heaven and a ruler who is losing the mandate of heaven, that is.
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Speaker 2: The heavens are displaced to this rule. But this bad things will happen to them.
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Speaker 8: No no, it's not stupid, no, because if the ruler just dies for no reason, they're.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh no, no, no, no, it's not like that.
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Speaker 5: What it is is a dynasty is losing the mandate of heaven. And the evidence is that there are signs of Heaven's displeasure, and that is it would be like natural disasters would be signs of this, but also rebellions and chaos breaking out. And the reason I mentioned that is I think there's an element of that in how the American people will react to something like this. So your best argument for the Insurrection Act is if they can shut this down immediately. But the biggest worry would be what if they try to shut it down and instead you get similar outbreaks in cities across the United States. And the reason they'll be upset it's not even how they feel about immigration policy one way or the other.
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Speaker 2: They'll just think like, oh, there's chaos.
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Speaker 5: There's chaos in the realm, and they're not thinking in literal, mandated having terms, but they'll be thinking bad stuff seems to be going on in cities. There's chaos, and President Donald Trump is the president, so he sort of gets the blame for it.
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Speaker 2: That will be the biggest pest.
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Speaker 4: It also plays into the narrative that they've seated for the last ten years. Trump's a tyrant, he's a dictator, he's a fascist. Look at now we have jack boot thugs massed on the streets arresting American citizen.
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Speaker 2: That's not at all what's happening.
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Speaker 4: But you still have to come to grips with the fact that half the country is spewing that narrative. And then you have Joe Rogan people like that picking it up, and that's where the problem ensues.
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Ian. Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 2: Ian, you are next up. You know how much money forty five billion dollars is. It's like it's like it's like one, it's like five. It's like one third of the LA Dodgers payroll. Wow, that's not true.
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Speaker 4: Uh, listen, I'm all all in favor of paycheck baseball because listen, we're to two World Series in a row. It's good for baseball to have a villain. By the way, it is because now everybody happens.
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Speaker 2: It was called the New York Yankees. Yeah, I know, so you know it's funny.
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Speaker 4: I got I got two text from New York Yankees plays last night after the Tucker signing, and it, uh, it's like amazing because like even they're bitter at us, and I'm like, you guys have all the money in the world. I mean until Mom Donnie taxes you to smithereens and all that. But I mean it's not like LA doesn't have high taxes as well. Ian, You're up next.
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Speaker 7: Hey, go Dodgers first and foremust Yeah, I'm man.
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Speaker 2: I will say to.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't just special guests. We just would go out there and we just take questions.
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Speaker 2: So totally.
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Speaker 4: That was, by the way, one of the things we're gonna be doing. I was talking with e about this. We're we're gonna be doing.
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Speaker 2: You don't even know this yet, but we're gonna we're gonna do.
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Speaker 4: Uh, we're gonna have like family business calls, Like we're just gonna do a zoom call. Everybody can join it. Will ask you what you want us to cover. So if we're missing stories that you think are important, if you want to have us book certain guests, whatever, like, we'll just do all of that. Guys can kind of be become into the producer world with us, and uh so really looking forward to that.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna be rolling that out soon. Uh what's your question, Ian?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I had a couple, but my main one is I just I just don't understand with all these people that are shouting free Palestine earlier the last couple of years, why are they not saying the same thing about Iran. My dad's from Tehran, Iran. He left there in nineteen seventy seven to get away from the revolution that was coming, and now they have to now that people are fighting back, and it's pretty clear to me it's a spiritual battle, you know what I mean. There's people that are Christian over there and they're hiding underground and they're converting to Christianity and mass and being killed. And it's just crazy to me that this isn't like national news, like it's just being like swept under the rug.
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Speaker 2: So I just don't know what many thoughts, Blake do you do? You want to take it first? I mean, one of the funny things is you do hear some of them do it.
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Speaker 5: But there's a true split in the left, and you really see some of these there was a coalition that came together that essentially centered on hating Israel, and they're now fracturing over this because some of them are like, do we just like democracy and protests or do we kind of like Iran because they shot missiles at Israel. You see a real split on this, and the answer, honestly, one of the biggest reasons for why they don't care. Is it gets at the heart of why so many people dislike Israel in the first place, and it's because, frankly, for a lot of them, they dislike it. Some of them dislike it because it's Jewish some of it, but a lot of them dislike it because it's culturally European, because they're culturally considered white, essentially, because they're considered an outpost of colonialism. They basically they like to hate them. They hate on them for the same reason they hate ordinary Middle Americans or the reason they hate natives of Britain or natives of Germany or native Swedes, and so that is their safe way for them to really amp themselves up and enjoying that hatred. That's why you saw BLM Chicago celebrate ten to seven, because they would like to do ten seven.
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Speaker 2: In your neighborhood too.
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Speaker 5: They just can't get away with it and indulging that for Iran, where they're actually trying to overthrow a tyrannical regime that doesn't code as any of those things, doesn't give them that release they want. That's what's good the heart of it.
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Speaker 4: In my opinion, Yeah, I think I agree with a lot of that, and I just want to underscore what you said. There's a ton of Christians people don't realize this. And I actually have a pastor friend of mine who's going to be visiting me in about a week who's been doing street evangelism. It's gotten arrested a couple times in Iran by doing this. And he said that after Charlie died, that these they started praying for these kids. They would go out in the street. Before it was pretty kind of timid, and now they're just like roaring lions. That's his words, not mine, and they'll go out and they have just so much energy and courage to go share the gospel all over Iran. So this is happening as we speak. I believe that God's doing miraculous things. He's shown up in dreams and visions and people's hearts are changing in Iran, and I think that a lot of people. You know, we had Eliko lil Bon on earlier this week and she was explaining the religious dynamics of Iran are not exactly what you think. I think there's a lot of devout Muslims. I sort of have a somewhat of a disagreement, but there is a lot more variety in mixed I mean she was right about there historically been a Zoroastrianism or whatever you know about this well years.
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Speaker 2: A long long time ago.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, but those those those predicates are there, and the legacy I think has a has an impact on a larger cultural level.
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Speaker 2: But the point is Iran is a very mixed place.
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Speaker 4: It's very diverse place, and there's a lot of dynamics that we're not really aware of as Westerners. But here's ultimately to Blake's point, it is to go after the Iranian regime would be would be to admit that there is oppression, real oppression, political, spiritual, economic, that doesn't come from the white man, so it doesn't fit their narrative. This is coming straight from one of their you know, intersectional privileged classes. It's coming from other Muslims. So Muslims are oppressing Muslims. Therefore it doesn't fit into any of their convenient narratives. Therefore they're uninterested. Whereas Hamas Israel, Israel is the white European coded versus the brown people, so they instantly saw oppressor versus oppress. This doesn't work in any of that narrative and it exposes the truth and the lies that they've been believing and spreading. So they want nothing to do with it. And go ahead, Mikey No, I.
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Speaker 8: Mean you you you have it right. It's the oppressor and the oppressed. But ultimately, I mean in the situation of free Palestine, the oppressed is the Palestinians and the oppressor is the Jews. And in Iran, the oppressor is a Muslim regime and the oppressed are women that have to wear hajiebs. And so Americans just like objectively care more about it. Jews oppressing us all the time, and so we're going to care more about.
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Speaker 2: That women are being oppressed.
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Speaker 4: It's not just women, by the way, I mean, it's young people, Yeah, it's anybody that the merchants, how.
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Speaker 2: Much broken down by the iol I'll play Devil's advocate here.
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Speaker 8: I mean, when we send aid in money and resources to the oppressor, then it's easier for Americans to want to team up with the oppressed because part of their tax paying.
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Speaker 2: That's a good are going to killing the oppressed. And so you're talking about it.
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Speaker 5: It transcends that the truth is if you read it like look at the history of it. This is just always been a big focus for the entire the world just cares about Israel Palestine on either side. More, it's a symbol what you feel about the Israel Palestine conflict. It has its proxy. It's a proxy for how you view the world. So are you pro this or pro that? And that I think is what causes it to have such enduring power. In the same way there are kind of symbolic issues in America that might people care about that maybe.
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Speaker 4: No, well but yeah, yes and I and I totally agree with that. But I do think that there is another piece of it where it just simply cuts against this intersexual coalition that the Red Green Alliance, Right, because in order to come out and favor one side or the other in Iran, you essentially have to come out against part of your Red Green Alliance. You have to come out against you know, Muslims, which are which are part of this this communist Islamist coalition, Mom, Donnie, all of these things.
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Speaker 2: So it just it's just inconvenient for them, that's the true.
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Speaker 8: Oh, Ultimately, I think Blake is right, it's just such a big topic of like Israel Palestine, it's like the topic that literally never goes away, whereas like Iran is an issue right now, just how like Christians in Nigeria were an issue a month ago.
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Speaker 2: Like Christians are still.
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Speaker 8: Being persecuted in Nigeria, but we're not talking about It's.
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Speaker 5: Almost there's there's infrastructure around the issue to keep people actually caring about it.
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Speaker 2: I wonder why, you know, it's almost like people have like a deep hatred. It's because people want to see America burn. They really do.
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Speaker 4: These people hate capitalism. They hate European culture, which they believe is the main driver of capitalism around the world, and therefore they want to dismantle white culture, European heritage Western world.
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Speaker 2: They hate Christendom because it's the.
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Speaker 4: Backrop and the and the bedrock of the backbone and the bedrock of the structures that enliven it and then allow it to continue existing. And it really is all of these things become enemy number one. And that's why you see anti white hatred in a majority white country is because they're growing in size, we're shrinking in size. They can feel that their power is expanding. And that's why what was so powerful what Trump did actually in twenty twenty four was because we had a multi ethnic coalition of people that were wanting the actual American dream.
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Speaker 2: They just wanted more money in their pockets.
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Speaker 4: They wanted more take home pay, they wanted better jobs, they wanted more economic opportunities. Those are winning messages and we have to stay on point stawn message. We have a next question from We.
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Speaker 5: Have actually have a follow up from Ian that I think is a pretty good So he's asking follow up, who are Charlie?
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Speaker 2: Oh wait, I mean are you still there?
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Speaker 9: Ian?
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Speaker 2: You can?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So I just wanted to know basically who are Charlie's like biggest mentors, because like you try googling it and it's just a mess right now.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, well he also had.
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Speaker 8: So many and it was also for like different seasons or different subjects and different subjects and so like the people that got him there at the beginning is you have Bill Montgomery, who Charlie talked about. You can even read about him on Charlie's Wikipedia page.
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Speaker 4: But it was like a kindly old guy from Chicago who, yeah, the guy you'd see at sea pack handing up tracks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like wear the American flag with an eagle on it.
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Speaker 8: He was just kind of like you know, and yeah, but he would like love jumping Charlie to the room, like as a young person's very uncomfortable to put yourself in like the room, the situation, but he would like bring him there. And then he met Foster Freeze who was kind of one of his early on mentors.
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Speaker 2: And continue and continue to be a mentor.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then also like spiritually, morally and then educationally, Like he would kind of pick different people like Dennis Prager was one that he bring up a lot.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlie would listen to all of Dennis Prager's fireside chats. More than that you listen, yeah, team listen to him, notes on him and break him down for him. Charlie bought the nineteen eighty It was like the what, I don't even know what you call him, like those things you put in It was like recordings of Dennis from like nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about like.
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Speaker 8: It was like a yeah, and it was staticky and old and it was when Dennis was like twenty, So this was all wrong.
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Speaker 2: What do you call that?
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Speaker 4: It's like the eight high shoot yeah, hs, No, it's before.
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Speaker 2: That, yep.
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Speaker 8: But Charlie bought those and would listen to them, and you'd be in this like two hour car ride with Charlie and you're like falling asleep because Charlie's like listening to Dennis, but also Frank Turk.
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Speaker 4: You know, he had seven eight millimeters. There was the beta, beta max.
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Speaker 2: These are these are the things before VHS. Well, there you go.
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Speaker 4: I wish somebody would ask about Canada, just for we would love to talk about Oh yeah, if you have ca question, the question definitely paying us because we were thinking about talking about it.
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Speaker 2: But for now we have Micah Micah. Are you there? Unmute yourself and what's your question?
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Speaker 11: Hey, good day, gentlemen. Addy, I'm calling in today from the state of Wyoming. I don't have a question about Canada, but I do have a question about a recent ruling from our state Supreme Court. On the sixth of December, so ten days ago, the state Supreme Court says that a abortion ban is not constitutional in out the state of Wyoming. Now, the court passed this down based on the fact that that they called abortion healthcare, which was the court's argument there. So just a couple of questions. This, of course is a shock in deep red states, especially Wyoming. So questions about what we can do to change future outcomes like this, and then also how we can change the libertarian thought process that's not very strong on the pro life issues. So any thoughts that you have, yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: So while we EMMA notified us that a question on this was coming up, so I did some like quick research on it and looking into it. And so just for those who are not aware, which I imagine is most people, Wyoming's not our biggest state. So Wyoming has a Supreme Court. They're chosen for eight year terms. There's only five of them eight year terms picked by the governor. It's a deep red state, so we have to be frank about this failure. All five members of the Wyoming Supreme Court were chosen by a Republican governor. They have to pick from a list of nominees that are submitted by a judicial nominating commission.
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Speaker 2: In the state. I don't know how.
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Speaker 5: That how the staff of that is chosen, but you see in basically what this is how you can get a lot of this stuff. Is this indirect nomination. Instead of the governor just picking whoever he wants, they instead have this nominating commission. The judge then or the governor then picks from the three nominees they put forward, and then there is a retention election on the state wide ballot. And I because I'm approaching this quite recently, I don't know the exact way these specific justices.
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Speaker 2: Were chosen, but clearly the judges right.
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Speaker 5: So the rationale and the decision, by the way, is so first of all, they decide abortion just automatically counts as healthcare. But an interesting part of it their justification for this, which was also reached by lower courts in the state of Wyoming. When Obamacare was passed back in twenty ten, the state reacted by passing its own constitutional amendment that basically says Wyomings have a right to make decisions about health care in the state, and the intent of this was to push back on any drive towards centralization. Against it was against Obamacare. The fear that Obamacare was going to dictate their medical decisions. Oh you can only get this thing, or you're only allowed to have this type of insurance. It was pushing back on that, and it had this unen tended consequence that happened a decade plus down the road. So a few things you have to do. First of all, you have to watch out. You have to watch who's getting on your Supreme Court. First of all, you have to make sure that the people who are getting, who are making the choice of who even can be nominated for the Supreme Court are aligne.
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Speaker 4: I have some intel on this. The Wyoming Judicial Nomination Commission includes the chief Justice, then three lawyers elected by the Wyoming State Bar. So there's a state bar question there, and that is currently Devin O'Connell, Mandy Good, Clint Langer, and then three non lawyers appointed by the governor. So least that same majority in Rock one.
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Speaker 5: This is so similar to what they actually had in remember when we talked about this in Israel where they were trying to reform the court.
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Speaker 2: So the chief Justice and then three people on the state bar are a majority. There.
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Speaker 5: There are three people appointed by someone else, non lawyers, but they can have a majority of people that is basically self perpetuating of the state's legal elites and the current Supreme Court justice who's already picked by this mechanism. So frankly, I would say, first of all, you should probably look into replacing that mechanism, and you might need to amend your constitution to do that. I don't know the way that's done in Wyoming, And I also want to make sure we.
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Speaker 2: Address the how do you change people's minds.
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Speaker 5: One of the things that's not as well known about these Republican states out west. They are less church they are less religious than other ones. So if you go to Oklahoma, if you go to Tennessee, there's a high religious affiliation of conservatives.
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Speaker 2: I can vouch that in Nevada too. Yeah, same western states.
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Speaker 5: Once you get west of kind of the Great Plains line, basically when you across the Missouri River and the line going down from it, you still have a lot of conservatives, but they are more libertarian, They're less likely to be members of a church even if they vote our way, and so they're less aligned on these issues. So we actually have to continue the work of trying to spiritually witness to these people. You're not just trying to block the decline of religiosity. These are probably the states where you have the most people who are maybe open to it. They vote our way. They have conservative values.
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Speaker 4: Culturally Catholic but there but they're conservatism.
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Speaker 2: It's an ethos of the West.
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Speaker 5: But it's also they just didn't grow up. These places have never had as many churches. And in the South, it's that you're in a church culture because there's been churches there for two hundred years and your parent, your grandparents, your maybe your great grandfather built the church, and your grandparents remembers, your parents remembers. You are in a society where membership of a church is almost taken for granted. It's much easier to get into that world out West. It's much more do it yourself. So we get some great Christians out there because it's such a do it yourself thing, you.
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Speaker 2: Have to be really committed.
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Speaker 4: In California, the rise of the megachurches exactly how.
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Speaker 5: You have fewer people who are getting culturally assimilated into that and we have to make.
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Speaker 4: Do the work to get those questions though alue So, the ruling is based on the fact that they consider abortion healthcare. How did that definition get established in the state of Wyoming.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'd have to I'd have to read the decision.
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Speaker 4: My instant analysis when I was hearing your question was that you have to pass a state law that redefines abortion as not healthcare.
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Speaker 2: And that's what stinks is.
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Speaker 5: I think that would have been really easy if they'd written their law like that in twenty twelve and they'd say, by the way, abortion isn't healthcare, whereas now it's going to be tough for It's going to be tougher now because, let's be Frank, Dobbs got repealed, yep, and now people are if you try to pass that, everyone's aware this is an abortion band upper down vote, and as we've seen outside of Florida and South Dakota, we've had a hard time with upper down votes. We've been able to pass strict abortion laws because we're able to pass it in the legislature where our guys are aligned and most people are not going to, you know, flip to the Democrats over that. Even if we lose that up or down vote, and that could be a struggle in Wyoming.
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Speaker 4: I'll just be Frank, I totally agree that. By the way, I just we talked about the spiritual implications. One last point I want to make is I believe every state that succeeds and overcomes the e of abortion and passes a state ban. I don't care about all the naysayers. I don't care about the politics of it. I believe your state will be blessed. I genuinely believe that.
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Speaker 2: Mikey, do you have any thoughts on Yeah? No, this is great, Blake. I could sit back and listen to you explain things all day. I'm like, I'm loving it. Micah, who's next? Ja? I think Mike, Josiah, Who do we get? Matthew? Just let's go.
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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I am here in State New York, about twenty minutes from Canada, and so I would be going to Auto what tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: So I was like, hey, I'll do hear about Canada? You have some bad Oh boy we now have after Greenland. Oh boy, man, we can wish we are.
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Speaker 5: The truth is we want to talk about it because it's very interesting what's unfolding north.
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Speaker 2: Of the border.
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Speaker 5: This is a this is people aren't noticing this because there's a lot of other clips.
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Speaker 4: First yeah, let's do those clips. So we've got this is this so it's a one two. It's a shot chaser to use a.
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Speaker 2: Very secular okay.
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Speaker 4: Five seventeen, This is Prime Minister Carney big Lib says Canada's partnership with China sets us up well for the new Actually, hold on, hold on, yeah, all right, So we didn't get the clip by one, but that's fine. This is them announcing this new partnership with the CCP five seventeen.
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Speaker 6: I believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new world order.
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Speaker 2: He He couldn't have said that more ominous.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was him intentionally signaling to DC and Donald Trump that he has his own agency and they're going to push back and become a proud little puppet state, vassal state of the CCP.
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Speaker 2: And he elaborated on this, should we do the follow up? Yeah, let's do the let's show. So they asked him what did he mean by it is a follow up interview?
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Speaker 3: Twenty One of the things you said in the public remarks was this partnership Canada and China, this new partnership sets us up well for the new World order? What did you mean by that? What is the new world order?
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Speaker 6: Fancy word like the architecture the multilateral system that has been developing these is being eroded, to use a polite term, undercut, use another term. So the question is what gets built in that place. But the evolution of the global financial system, the role of the MMB over time, the evolution of cross border payment, and look, the expectation is that rather than these being developed necessarily through the IMF, WTO and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that developed them not for the world but for subsee subsectors of the world.
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Speaker 5: First of all, Mike, do your impression of Carney. He's got his hand maneuvers there.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot that's interesting there though.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so first of all, the announcement today, that's kind of a money you know. The follow up to this is they announced today Canada is they had been aligned with us on a lot of very aggressive anti China tariffs, huge tariffs on cars some other exports, and they announced today they are cutting their tariffs on Chinese automobiles. So these electric cars that they're all over the world, you never see them in America because we tariff them so hard, but we might see Canadians driving them and in return, China is cutting tariffs they had imposed on Canadian exports, like I think canola oil is something that they were exporting stuff like that. But it's really interesting what he's saying, because what he's saying is basically an earthquake. Canada has always been in the United States orbit it's always, let's be frank, it's always been a major ally of ours, even when we had differing governments.
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Speaker 8: So I have a question then, So if we're taking Greenland because China and Russia have an influence on that territory and that is our reasoning to do, so, does that mean we also need to take Canada because they're being influenced by China and Russia.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, this is the thing. So we can't listen a frank.
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Speaker 2: I've just got to say this.
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Speaker 5: This happened because I think we were we recklessly bullied Canada just after you know, kind of during that transitional period to the new administration, President Trump was going on about the fifty first state thing. First of all, like Charlie, I don't want Canada as a fifty first state they're very liberal on certainly like abortion. I take Alberta in Asia, even Alberta would I'll tell you, I think you'd be surprised. I think Alberta would be a blue state because one reason they have they have multiple parties, so you can get a conservative government with thirty five to forty percent of the vote, which you know you can't do that in the United States there's only two major parties. And so we did that, and unfortunately it did mean there was an election. Trudeau was imploding. He looked, they looked prime to lose power. And unfortunately, Canada's national identity, a lot of it is bound up with being not America, or being like America but way more left wing. And I think that really exacerbated that element of Canadian national pride and it made them go for this Carni guy.
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Speaker 2: Who's this globalist lizard.
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Speaker 5: And what he's saying there when he says, oh, we're going to see sub sectors of the world instead of multilateral organizations, what he's saying is the IMF, THEWTO institutions that America built are going to be replaced by one's China might build with Canada.
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Speaker 4: So another piece of this is just you know, because we've got the bricks nation, right, which is which is an affront to the US dollar as the current reserves to bricks. So yeah, seriously, I'm not kidding. That's exactly where I was going. So you've got China, and I gonna have Canada. And this is a direct Listen. You've got the NATO Alliance. You've got a bunch of libs in the NATO Alliance that in Canada is part of that. The United States is part of that. And President Trump is demanding reforma and immigration. He's making plays and treaties very seriously at Greenland, He's invaded Venezuela. He's telling the UK that their speech laws are not compatible with our values and free speech. He's demanding all of these things that they pay up in NATO. Here's what I would say, though they've got no cards ultimately because they do need us to protect them. But but here, here's a here's a wild thought. Do we care if the old world orders and alliances are changing? Do we actually care? Because in some ways yes, in some ways no. The main reason this is a threat though it's not. It's not even because of the dollar. I would say that's that would be threat number two. But threat number one is because if our adversaries of China and Russia are going to attack us, it it's gonna come over the Arctic. That is actually the most direct attack line. And that's why we have Norad. That's why we're telling, you know, Denmark that we need Greenland. If Canada becomes a puppet and owned puppet of the CCP, that is a direct national security issue for the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: It is I just feel tragic because I think this was avoidable. It was of course also like I don't want to like blackpill here. I don't think Canada is gonna end up like going No. I think this is a bunch of saber. At This is a bunch of saber.
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Speaker 8: They won't leave the G seven, they won't like that. It's just not gonna happen.
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Speaker 4: Just to put a finer point on this, I actually agree with Mikey. I think this is him. This is Carney trying to act like because he's total beta mail. He's a total beta male and this is what the left is built on, feminist women and beta male.
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Speaker 5: I don't think he's a beta male. I think that's a mistake. I actually think he is. He's a cold blooded lizard. But I don't think a beta male would do this well, just I do.
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Speaker 2: When they're commis at the end of the day, this guy, yeah, he's gonna says commis are not beta.
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Speaker 5: Commedis are can be very alpha, like Joseph Stalin was not a mincing beta all right.
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Speaker 2: Or beta freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com.
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Speaker 4: Is Carnie the Prime Minister of Canada is a beta or not a beta? We want to hear your thoughts. Send it the flood the inbox.
00:41:21
Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't listen.
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Speaker 4: He'siding, he's smart, he's calculating. All of these things are very true. But he's a beta. Okay, that's my take on it.
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Speaker 5: I would be remiss if I didn't flog my personal hobby horse, which is I think the best way for President Trump to indulge his desire to make America bigger and grander and to do really big projects no one else does without possibly alienating useful allies.
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Speaker 2: He should annex Antarctica. No one owns it. What if we just took it over? He just does get this, Trump.
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Speaker 4: The average temperature in Antarctica is much colder. It's nine thousand feet high, It's on a nine thousand foot shelf. It is what what else in the North Arctic, the North Pole, if you will, it's underwater, it's under the ice is water. So the land mass in Antarctica reflects heat. The ocean underneath the North actually helps moderate the temperature. In the summer. The average temperature in the North is actually thirty two degrees fahrenheit, which is the freezing point, so which means it sometimes gets below above freezing and below freezing.
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Speaker 2: It's way warmer up.
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Speaker 5: Okay, but Antarctica is a lot bigger, and so if we annex the whole thing, we would be bigger than Russia.
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Speaker 4: Now I was getting to see if you could actually extract resources from almost certainly not in any sort of short time frame.
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Speaker 2: But but yeah, in a century timeframe. Well, we have one more question we do want to get to as Matthew.
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Speaker 4: So, Matthew, yes, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Yes, sir?
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Speaker 10: Okay, great? Yeah.
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Speaker 9: So by the way, Carney, yeah, I hate to say he probably has beta, but you know, Tommy's can definitely be awful, as like I said, So, yeah, my question, my question, kind of to preface it would be that, you know, for a long time, it's been frustrating to see all these people out there being portrayed as these really angry citizens standing for these things when a lot of times they're just being paid. You know it because I've you know, I've seen the ads before myself, you know, looking for people out there in Phoenix, you know, to do stuff. So the uh so my question is, uh, you know, what do you think about Congress passing the law that would require just like we having commercials, you know, paid protesters to wear something like an armband or some of the shows that they're being paid a wage to be there and requiring that, but that they also can register. You know, the company asked to register somewhere federally and there needs to be some sort of sign posted and so many feed of anything that states clearly who's paying them, because that would you know, it wouldn't go against free speech laws, but we already have laws requiring that for stuff on TV and radio, truth and advertising and so forth. And it would also make it a more clear employee employer relationship, so that.
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, this actually gives you a mechanism for enforcing like a crackdown if you know that they are paid protesters and they don't properly, I don't know, like what's the what's the First Amendment implications here?
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Speaker 5: I do feel like it would be a can of worms. How would you define a paid protester?
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Speaker 2: For example, or like door.
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Speaker 9: If they're doing hotels, transphoning food only, then that's not paid protesting protest, but they're getting a wage to be there and we and we've I'm sure you've seen the ads before.
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Speaker 2: Looking for I'll be Frank, I will be frank. I have seen these go viral before. I don't know that I've ever seen.
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Speaker 5: A paid protester ad that I'll be frank that I think was real. I think people post them and I think they're fake There was a There was actually back when I was on Tucker's show in twenty seventeen, there was a completely fake paid protester bit and we had the fake paid protester guy on the show.
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Speaker 2: It went quite viral at the time. But I think people put these up.
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Speaker 5: I just I don't well know that I've ever seen evidence that an antifa that like a person who is just a one hundred percent disinterested mercenary figure showed up at something like an anti ice protest or an anti administration protest because they were just being paid a wage to be there.
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Speaker 4: I think I think it's a confluence of like, you have true believers that you know will then kind of come up through the ranks activist groups. I mean a lot of the groups are real. Indivisible was one of them. There are obviously people on payroll that help organize or help dissemate literature that there is a paid element of this. I tend to agree with you, actually though, that more of it is organic than the left or than the right wants to admit a lot of this is just people that you know. Listen, people have a hole in their soul and they're looking for purpose. They're looking for something to make themselves useful with, and instead of raising their family, instead of teaching them how to obey police officers, they end up getting themselves, you know, enmeshed in these these really radical ideologies that fill this gaping hole and gets them in, Like Renee Good puts, it ends up with her being cannon fodder in the streets, confronting ice where she should not have been.
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Speaker 8: I disagree with you, guys. I disagree with you guys. I think there are more. I mean, Nate Friedman exposes people all the time. Literally, Laura Ingram was interviewing someone the other day, so we have that I have a respect, do you guys?
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Speaker 2: Ever see videos.
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Speaker 4: Where he found that there was a woman that he spotted it over one hundred different protests.
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Speaker 8: And they get paid to do this, and you can see that, and he exposes the different groups that pay these people. But also in terms of like a lot of it, I believe that. Okay, I just think there's a higher proll but let me finish finish, So in terms of like these natural groups coming out, like it takes a few people to start something, and like if there are totally ten people that are getting paid and ten people that are organizing something, they could get two hundred and fifty three hundred people out there to protest something because those ten people started it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly that's how I be. So I want to since it's it's quick, let's play the Laura Ingram quick very quickly. Five. Third, do you have a job? Do you have a job?
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Speaker 6: Same?
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Speaker 5: So the thing is that's not proof that she's being paid to protest. What it really gets at I suspect, and I don't know this for sure, but I suspect there are a huge number of organizations at the left controls where you can get where you have unlimited opportunity to go protest whenever you want this. So, for example, the Saint Paul Teachers Union is calling for all their teachers to go on basically strike and.
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Speaker 4: The protest against schools doing walkouts Exactly, they're at the capital causing chaos.
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Speaker 5: If you can walk out on your job as a teacher and no one will fire you, you can easily boast I'm getting paid right now, ha ha. Like I know you can't do anything about it, and they have infinity things like that. Anyone who's working at these left wing universities, anyone who works at left wing mngos, anyone who works at uh, you know, as a public school teacher, where they indulge these things. The left has tons of institutions where they can park a full time political activist with very little real work demanded of them, and their job is be a left winger. That's very different from I'm a mercenary who's paid to protest. My take on that what they're paid to be is to be left wing.
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Speaker 4: Well, and there's probably some of that, I agree with you, but that I think it's my take on that was way more simple.
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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree with Bake. I didn't.
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Speaker 4: I didn't hear that and go instantly like paid protester. I thought this was probably like a work from home job, and she was just mocking everybody going regardless, everybody paid right now.
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Speaker 2: Because my employer doesn't care that I'm here.
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Speaker 8: Go watch Nate Friedman's work. Oh, you're right, you're right, you'll see it. Okay, But yes or no to armbands? Nah, I mean I'm open to all put them on. Need the armbands.
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