Ask Us Anything 246: The Origin of AMAs? A Charlie Biopic? The Limits of Speech?

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And we have Amfest coming up and we're going to be doing members lounges where you get to if you're coming to Amfest, where you get to see private interviews with you know, just the people in that room before they go live with some of the biggest names and influencers and history makers newsmakers in the country. And yes there it is America Fest Amfest twenty twenty five coming up in just a few weeks in Phoenix, Arizona at the Convention Center, and this will be the biggest one ever, all in Charlie's honor, all remembering Charlie and of course taking action, action, action, because that's what it's about. First up, for our Ama Blake, we have Brandon Brandon, mute yourself. 00:02:17 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. 00:02:18 Speaker 4: Hey guys, can you hear me? 00:02:20 Speaker 5: Yes? 00:02:20 Speaker 2: We can. Yes. 00:02:21 Speaker 4: So my question is about the AMA's actually, So I was just wonder like the history of them, you know, when, why how did they start? Because to my knowledge, like you guys are the only show that does it and definitely the only show that does it this way live. 00:02:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could give a little brief history lesson on that. So it goes back to when we started on radio national radio show. There was basically, you know, I think a pressure or push the way that they used to do radio. I think some people still do where they would roll callers and Charlie just had so much to say all the time that he wanted to do a show. He wanted to actually had things he wanted to say and get accomplished, and so he just he but he realized He's like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm going to put it into one hour where and it will just make it a standing invitation where we're going to have people send us their questions and so we. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: That's kind of how it happened. 00:03:22 Speaker 3: It was an impulse that Charlie had to do it because instead of doing callers intermittently throughout the week or whatever, he wanted to just condense it and to put it in one one section so that he could focus more closely on it, and then he could use the rest of the show to kind of get accomplished everything else that he wanted to get accomplished. So but the other thing I would say to this is Charlie loved doing AMAS because of the feedback loop with the audience. So it gave him an opportunity to hear directly from you guys, and he's he was a voracious email reader. So freedom at Charliekirk dot com, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com going to keep pumping that forever because it is the firewall to truth and freedom. 00:04:01 Speaker 2: And I said this at the memorial. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know if Blake remembers this, but you know, it was kind of this. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: Idea that he he would. 00:04:08 Speaker 3: Go meet with all these fancy people and the elites, if you will, and you know, the donor class, because that's part of the job running a Big C three and a Big C four, and they would tell him, oh, this, that and the other, the country needs this, and oh the base doesn't know what they what they want, and he would he would have a direct firewall to those types of conversations because he was so in touch with the audience. He was so in touch with the people that listen to the show and the bass and the grassroots, and so you know, for all of those reasons and more, we will we will keep doing that in Charlie's honor. I don't know, Blake, if you had anything you want to add to that. 00:04:42 Speaker 5: Or only that. When I got here, I think we were already on AMA, probably about one hundred, so it must have been going about two years at that point. So, uh, now we're at I just checked. We're at this is AMA number two forty six. Though I'm in title, I'm in charge of titling a lot of these episodes, and I've probably double counted a number somewhere in there, or we had a special one that didn't get a number. Lots of that, but yeah, we're going. We've had five years of these. Charlie loved them, and as you said, Andrew, he loved both just how varied it was. He got to talk about scripture, he got to talk about history, he got to talk about politics, he got to talk about stuff behind the scenes. He got to talk about his family, talked about talk about the Sabbath, like what his new upcoming book is. He loved the variety, He loved that human contact. It was. It was something that gave him a lot of joy. And I always I love to quote, yeah, you know from the poem if you know, if you can converse with kings, nor lose the common touch. And Charlie could take a phone call from the President one minute and then take a phone call from one of you the next minute, and he would take both very seriously. And it was one of his his greatest assets, one of his greatest traits. And we're onred to continue it. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to read from Daisy because this is pretty funny. This is actually probably how it actually went down. From what I remember, Charlie said to me, I want live callers tomorrow and then he said, okay, do this every single week. 00:06:07 Speaker 2: Lol. 00:06:08 Speaker 3: That's from That's from days and that That is actually very emblematic of a lot of things at turning point and at the show, where we would kind of just try something and if it worked, if he liked it, he would keep it. And and you know, building the plane as it's taking off, if you will. So there was a pretty like organic piece of that and that does feel feel right to me. And then over time we kind of threw a new twist and we brought in the members dot Charliekirk dot com for people to join the members portal as well, So it just kind of kept evolving. 00:06:37 Speaker 5: I remember the AMA used to be mostly emails correct, and then we made it the did we make it the member call because we were launching members, Yeah, and we were always trying. He always wanted to have callers. I think a lot of it, yeah, because he loved Rush and Rush took callers. He loved continuing that legacy. And I remember we kept trying to just take callers in the middle of normal segments that was going on in a lot when I first started, and people might remember a little awkward. We'd try it and there were always technical issues. It was so funny. So I'm very glad we got it nailed down with these amas, because we've had a lot of very memorable calls the past two years we've been doing it this way. 00:07:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, Next up, Jonathan, Welcome to the show. Jonathan. 00:07:19 Speaker 6: Good to be here. 00:07:21 Speaker 2: So have you guys invited Dennis Prager and Larry Elder. 00:07:25 Speaker 3: So in years past we have had both of those gentlemen obviously, Larry or Dennis Prager is you know, still recovering from his injuries and I don't know. I haven't checked in recently. I know Erica has, but I think I think Dennis is still sort of bedbound. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: He's expected to get his mobility back. I'm not sure, but we remained close with Dennis, and like I said, Erica has has spoken with him recently, and he's a great mentor of Charlie's and has been to so many Turning Point events. And then Larry, Larry's been to a bunch of Turning Point events, He's done his radio show from Turning Point events. We love Larry, have a long, long friendship and relationship with him. He's not going to be at this year simply because probably we you know, after Charlie was assassinated, a couple of things happened. We got flooded. Everybody bought tickets to Amfest. We had to turn the ticketing off, and again we're very sorry that we had to do that. We would love to take everybody candidly, the event would probably twice as big. 00:08:28 Speaker 2: If we didn't turn ticketing off. 00:08:30 Speaker 3: But what also happened was a lot of speakers, a lot of big name you know, movement leaders and politicians reached out and wanted to be a part of the event, and it filled up almost instantly. We already had some book before September tenth, and then but then, you know, after what happened, it just took on a life of its own, and so this is sure to be the largest and most crowded speakerless that we have ever had at Amfest to probably any other event. 00:09:04 Speaker 5: Since he asked about Dennis, I just want to flag because I think it's a very moving tribute that this book stop in the name of God, all about the Sabbath. The dedication this book is dedicated to Dennis Prager. Your life's work brought me to honoring the Sabbath. As a result, I wrote this book. Thank you, Dennis for all you have done for humanity. God bless you. I can't imagine Charlie ever thought Dennis would outlive him, but that's the way it came to pass. But he did. I remember that that he told me, you know, he wanted to write this book. Dennis inspired him so much to do it. I think he worked with him on the actual process of writing the book as well, and he left it as a great tribute to his friend. 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That's eight six four six four four one nine zero zero and mention code new year. Or visit their website at myphdweightloss dot com. Blake, we just talked about Amfest and unfortunately this year is sold out, but you can already pre buy tickets for next year, which is a huge thing, and you get a discounted price if you do that now. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: So that's one thing. 00:11:46 Speaker 3: But I don't think we've made enough of this on this show, and that we had a big speaker announcement this week, and that is JD Vance will be joining us at Amfest. 00:11:55 Speaker 2: If you want to throw up image eight. 00:11:57 Speaker 3: JD Vance is a confirmed speaker featured speaker at Amfest twenty twenty five in Phoenix, Arizona, December eighteenth through the twenty first. And that is a big deal. But if you are not able to join, say you have you waited, you didn't get your tickets. The whole thing will be streaming live on Rumble dot com. 00:12:17 Speaker 2: Rumble dot com you show image seven h so you can. 00:12:22 Speaker 3: We have a deal with Rumble where they would be streaming the entire thing so you can always be a part of the action. I know the war room, Posse, Bannon's going to be there, many many other media outlets. It's gonna be this thing's gonna be bonkers, folks. 00:12:35 Speaker 5: Blake, Yeah, no, it's great. 00:12:37 Speaker 2: We have some clips from JD. I thought you were going to jump in there. 00:12:40 Speaker 5: Oh oh, sorry about that. No, like we have uh, let's see which is the best one that we have here. We're very we're very excited to have JD. Yeah, let's play two seventy one. 00:12:50 Speaker 7: Under the Biden administration, the average American family lost over three thousand dollars of household income, and under the first ten months of this Trump administration, they have gained over one thousand. 00:13:01 Speaker 2: Dollars of household income. 00:13:02 Speaker 7: What that says very clearly is that we are fixing the problem that Joe Biden and the Democrats created in the last administration. 00:13:12 Speaker 5: And I think JD really in I would just say JD. Over the past year especially, he has really grown into this role that Charlie envisioned for him. This is why Charlie was such a JD fan. We've told the very funny story of how we endorsed him for Senate immediately, and it was actually we jumped the gun a bit and before Charlie could contact donors and explain why we're doing this, And it's a very funny story. But he always was a big believer in JD. From basically the moment he entered politics. He always thought he had a huge amount of potential. People would say, Charlie, do you plan to enter politics? And one of the things one of the answers he would say it was always I don't need to because I know the things I care about. Are squared away with JD as such a rising star, and he was so happy with how he's performed as Vice President, becoming this spokesperson for the administration for its vision, this person who can perpetuate what makes Maga maga for years on end. And so we're super excited to have him at America Fest. We've seen over and over how much how much JD loved Charlie, how he was a friend to Charlie, and we want to maintain that friendship as much as possible growing forward, going forward, and we encourage everyone if you're not able to attend anfest, you can watch all the speeches online and get yourself fired up and come next year, especially if you are on the waiting list this time, you get a discount for next year's And that's right. 00:14:40 Speaker 3: Be there, Be there next year, Yeah, exactly, be there. We have another question from Robert. Robert, welcome to the show. 00:14:47 Speaker 8: Hey, can you guys hear me? 00:14:48 Speaker 5: Yes? We can? 00:14:49 Speaker 8: Yes, Oh great, Yeah, my question, I've got a couple of things. My question is is why don't you partner up with Angel Films and do a biopic lift about Charlie's life? I mean, really get some aid listers. I know Chris Pratt is a Christian. I don't think he would be the right person played Charlie. Of course that's not my domain, but I think that that would be something that would really be groundbreaking. It would renew everybody's burned it down in the dumps feeling. I never met Charlie. I know that you guys, of course, were dear friends with them and colleagues, but I will say that I miss him every day. I can't tell you what a bright light this young man was, and at what a young age he was able to accomplish what he did. And I really believe that that was because that was a God given thing that he was put here at this time to make these kinds of changes and to bring this visibility out. And the other thing is is that I founded five companies, I took a couple of public made a lot of money. I've lost a lot of money. And during the Biden years it took I kind of retired out of tech when Trump got in, and then it took me five years to get a job in tech, and mainly because of the H one visas. I really believe that you guys have got to get hardcore about this visa thing. 00:16:19 Speaker 9: It is. 00:16:20 Speaker 8: I can't tell you how many people who have the experience I have who can't even get a resume looked at. I mean, I sent out hundreds thousands of job applications and finally got hired about nine months. Well, I got hired two weeks after Trump got in. 00:16:35 Speaker 2: Blake, you want to take a stab at Robert's question about this? 00:16:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, So Robert had two questions. We will hit the more fun one. First, he asked about whether you know if we would work with Angel Studios on a Charlie biopic. It's way above my pay grade on that question. Obviously. Whether any film is made about Charlie is a question for Erica to decide, and I have no idea what offers she's received in that way, what her own thinking on this is. I genuinely just don't know. I think my suspicion is it's probably very likely we'll get one eventually, because Charlie is just such an icon to so many people, and his life it truly has a cinematic quality to it. He built something so immense and so successful from such a young age, from nothing, really came from no strong political background, no establishment background. It was just his pure energy, his force of will. He drew people to himself. He made people believe in his mission and just the faith angle as well. His faith grew throughout his life, and he truly died a martyr. I have to imagine I very much understand why so many people think a film of it would be good. It is very funny. I just do have to say I did chuckle at the suggestive Chris Pratt because I checked, and Chris Pratt is forty six years old. It would be very There'd be something interesting about him playing a person who was fifteen years younger than him when he passed. But I don't know. How do you feel about it, Andrew? Would it be On the other hand, would it be too real? Would it be would there be something fake about seeing someone else play a man that you know both of us? 00:18:19 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, here's here. 00:18:20 Speaker 3: Here's what I'll tell you is that it's probably going to happen. 00:18:24 Speaker 2: The question is how. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: And I think there might be multiple, because I can already tell you on the documentary side, there's going to be multiple. 00:18:30 Speaker 2: There already are a few. 00:18:32 Speaker 3: I think Daily Caller just released one that they that they did. The folks behind the art of the Surge are doing one because they traveled with Charlie to Greenland and they had a bunch of footage from behind the scenes. So on the on the dock side, we're gonna have that. And then of course Turning Point, USA, the team is has has more footage than anybody. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: I mean, the team followed. 00:18:52 Speaker 3: Charlie around for years and you know, I was always sort of wondering, why why is this camera going I never see this footage. Well now we have this amazing, amazing storehouse of just never before seen footage of Charlie. So that is something the team is working on as well on the Turning Point side, and so that's gonna happen. And I know that there are people that have already contacted me and us about making films into Blake's point, it's kind of all in Erica's that's a decision for her to make, and you know, we sort of entrust that with her, and I know she's talking with really great people and so we'll see what happens with that. Thanksgiving holds so many memories, and I'm sure it's the same for you. 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He defended it in the case of, for example, we've been building these chip plants in the United States and He's said, well, you're going to need these foreign ship experts to get these plants up and running, otherwise it's just not going to happen. And there's something to be said for that. But there is also a very real fact. We have gotten addicted to this and that addiction, like any other addiction in your own personal life, it makes us weaker over time, and it makes it hard to break. We have damaged America's ability to be skilled in highly technical fields because of H one b's. It's lowered the amount of it's lowered the salaries and a lot of those fields so they're less appealing than going into something like law or medicine, where there's more of a barrier to foreign competition. And it's made it so there's companies that have just gotten used to Oh, rather than having to train up American workers who are fresh out of college, we can take these people who have three years of experience from abroad and we don't have to do any training. Saves us money and makes it all easier for us. And it's a complicated thing that we're going to need. I think we should dial back H one well, I definitely think we should dial back H one b's, maybe even have the goal of ending it entirely. But we do need to have a plan for how we're going to, for example, incentivized companies and say we will encourage you to train employees fresh out of college or even fresh out of high school, so that you have an incentive to teach Americans to do this job rather than just rely on foreigners to do it. Another thing I'd point out is it's not just H one be's. It's become the symbol of this problem, but there's a lot of other visas out there, so we need a total spectrum. Look. One that's known is the OPT. It's not quite a visa. It's called Optional Practical Training, and it's a program that's available for foreign students where they can stay in America longer working in a job related to their field of study. And there's been whole cases where companies like Microsoft have used this as a shadow H one B program to get more foreign workers without getting H one b's. So it's definitely a massive issue for America. It's one Charlie was very aware of. It's one I told him a lot about. I was saying, this is bubbling up badly. People have become really aware that their job opportunities are getting hobbled because we continue to bring in a lot of foreign workers, and especially now that the border has been secured, people are looking at the other sources of immigration. Related problems in American life. So you're absolutely correct. It's a thing we need to talk about. It's a thing Vice President Vance has talked a lot about. He might even talk about it at America Fests to definitely tune into that. Do you have anything to say on that end? 00:24:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to add two things. One that you know Robert was having trouble getting interviews even but it took him years to get hired. And one thing I would just say is one of a problem that has been reported widely when it comes to H one bs is that you have once you some of these cultures that you bring in. Now, remember I'll just state stating the facts. Seventy percent of H one b's go to Indians, another ten to fifteen percent go to the Chinese, and eighty percent of H one bvs is go to for entry level jobs. So these are this is a direct problem assault on the youngest Americans that are getting it just getting into the workforce. So it's a huge, huge issue. But one of the things you notice is that and I've heard this just repeatedly, Robert. I don't know if you have an anecdote that would underscore this, but they tend to hire other people from their culture. So if you hire if one of these h one b's rises through the ranks, they become a hiring manager. They tend to hire other people that are closer in cultural affinities or affiliations to themselves. And so that's not necessarily a good thing for native born Americans either. So that there's multiple problems. Some are cultural, some are structural that are injected into the system when you are addicted to foreign labor. 00:25:15 Speaker 2: It's just the facts. 00:25:16 Speaker 3: Should we take the next one, Let's take Gina's question. Gina, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What's your question? 00:25:22 Speaker 6: Hey, thanks, guys, can you hear me? 00:25:24 Speaker 2: Okay, yes we can, yes, ma'am. 00:25:26 Speaker 6: Okay. My heart's broken with the things that are going on with Candace, and I'm trying to make it all come together. I'm sure I'm not your only fan that is trying to do that because of the relationship that she had with Charlie. And one thing that I'm just trying to make come together in my head is fly The invitation was extended to Candace, but not to Candace directly. Blake, I think you tweeted something out and I don't know if you know, I don't know what's truth and what's not. But I do know that she said she didn't even see the invitation and it was issued Blake, I think at twelve on a tweet that you had, but at midnight twelve, not noon midnight, And so it was like nine hours later before she even knew that you said anything about her attending the show. And then she's saying she can't attend in person, can she attend on a live stream or you know, and you guys do live streams all the time, And is that I'm trying to make this come together. 00:26:32 Speaker 5: Of course, So first of all, our initial statement it was on the show on Wednesday, I made it at the request of Erica. All of this has been at the direction and approval of Erica because she had this, and so what we were announcing there, as we said, she has said things that are not true, and we did not address them for a long time. We stated the reasons why that we thought a lot of them were just not We initially just thought no one would believe a lot of what was being said, and we also just we remembered the same friendship that Charlie had and we just hoped that this would go away without requiring any sort of direct statement or confrontation from us. So what was approved is we announced we are going to respond to this, and what I said was we are going to announce a date soon. We actually hadn't agreed on it at the time. I read the statement, we're going to announce a date where we're going to respond to this, and once we announce it, Candace is free to attend in person. That is what we announced. And so once we agreed on a time, I announced what the time was going to be. Candace, for her part, had said, you name the time, you name the place. That is what we did. As for why it was put out at that time, I would just say I don't think she had any difficulty in finding out what our scheduled time was. It seems everyone found it out quite quickly. And lastly, on the point of why it's in person, I think it's pretty intuitive that given what is being said, what the way this has worked is that it's critical to be in person if you want to be authentic and to be detailed, and that is what we think is a fair request to make. 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I mean, I'm one person in all of America and maybe the world for that matter, who has asked her to please, you know, go ahead and go come to come to your place whatever you need, so that those of us who by complete happen happenstance have turned out to be people who listen to both of your podcasts, it doesn't make any sense. 00:30:43 Speaker 3: You know, I really appreciate your heart genuinely, and I hear you know, the sincere request for things that you think don't make sense. I will say a couple of things just before we have to go back to radio here. One is that that's why you know we're doing this, uh this on the fifteenth. We want to address any of this stuff and just and let everybody know the truth because much of it is very simple, very simple to rebutton, to explain. And I would also say that, you know, we want to be cognizant all the time, and we're aware of this. We're in a different situation because there is an ongoing investigation, there's a trial. We have to be more careful than other voices out there what we say. And there's always the issue of tainting a potential jury pool that we're always very sensitive of. So, Gina, thank you for your question. 00:31:33 Speaker 2: David, David, welcome to the show. Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow, Hey, how are we doing today? Doing well? Thank you, sir. 00:31:40 Speaker 9: I just want to make a couple of one comment and then there's one question. We're in southern California. We are trying to get voter ID on the ballot. We're at seve round and fifty thousand. We need three hundred thousand. My second comment is, what do you think of cal Lutheran turning down making for a Turning Point chapter cal livedro in University. 00:32:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen the the sixth yeah signature drive. 00:32:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:32:10 Speaker 3: No, absolutely, and we have a whole story on it. By the way, at Turning Point USA TPUSA dot com. You could literally just you know, look up cal Lutheran TPUSA and the article. 00:32:21 Speaker 2: Pop right back up. 00:32:22 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a you know, we had a chapter there, a pre existing one, and it was disapproved in a two eleven to one secret ballot by the school student Senate. And that was according to the Echo, which reported on the matter. They had argument back and forth, students presented various arguments. Uh, and then you know, somebody said, I wasn't personally surprised by the outcome. At the end of the day, we try, we do try to be fair, impartial, and we want to see all the clubs succeed. But we will notice when a club is trying to push a certain rhetoric. And the last thing we need is controversy here on campus. Another person said they felt concerned with her safety with a Twoposa chapter on campus. 00:33:01 Speaker 2: As a black student. 00:33:04 Speaker 3: So listen, this is something that we have seen, which is you know, it's we've seen it again and again again, which actually just had a high school chapter that had been accused of racism or something like that that they persisted, they ended up getting approval. They had their first chapter meeting yesterday and over fifty students showed up. So one of the things that we've noticed, especially at the you when you have this pushback, is that there's just. 00:33:28 Speaker 2: This huge demand, there's a pent up demand within. 00:33:31 Speaker 3: The student body, and you get these huge turnouts like fifty plus students at a first meeting. That's incredible and it's a testament to Charlie and how he's still inspiring so many young people. But there are appeal process processes in place for this type of thing. There's a way to if you have to bring in legal there's a way there. Because this is obviously if you're showing bias against conservative groups or if you're not pursuing freedom. 00:33:55 Speaker 2: Of speech the way you should. 00:33:56 Speaker 3: So all I always say, when when it's a student Senate issue that is responsible for voting. There are other avenues that you can pursue with the administration with legal if you have to, and you can apply pressure in those ways, and we've had a really successful track record of that. Now there is a troubling issue when it comes to I would say Christian schools. Historically Christian schools that have probably lost their way. Charlie would rail against Christian schools, so they tend they tend to be the worst for some reason, the most cowardly, the most feckless, especially about living boldly in their faith in Christian Conservative Megan Basham from The Daily Wire has covered this a lot, and she's a friend of the show and so she I know, she's working on a whole piece on this. So it's a troubling trend. And it's just a reminder that these Christians institutions, formerly great Christian institutions, have so many of them have lost their way and they need to find their backbone and their spine again. And the way they do that skip behind our conservative students back them back their play. And so we were going to keep her doing this. This is not the only case of this, and we're working just so you know, we have a field team and field stap all across the country that work directly with these student groups to help them overcome just these sorts of challenges. 00:35:10 Speaker 5: All right, we have one minute forty five left, So unfortunately, Sarah, I'm going to read your questions so we can get at asap, because you say your question is free speech. Is there a line for free speech like when actually calling violence is wrong, or is calling for violence wrong, or you have a no swearing policy. How do you reconcile that with free speech? Well, first of all, we have an absolute First Amendment legal right to freedom of speech. And what doesn't get covered by that is, yeah, it doesn't calling to actually commit violence. America has a great standard on this. It's basically, if you're going to be calling for violence, it has to be a specific target, a specific person, in a specific manner. And if you don't have at least two of those three things, in America, a court will generally say doesn't count. You can say, yeah, I don't like the Constitution and we should get rid of it, or yeah, I kind of think we should overthrow the government. If you're being vague, you can do that in America and I think that's actually a good standard. It's a standard very few other countries have. But it's why in America we have such a robust free speech tradition. Now you can still have a personal policy about what you should or should not say. So we shouldn't swear, we shouldn't take the Lord's name in vain. That is a moral principle that we follow. You shouldn't do it. That doesn't necessarily apply for the entirety of the country. America is a country with freedom of religion. It doesn't have blasphemy laws. We oppose blasphemy laws in other countries. You don't want them to ban blaspheming the prophet Muhammad or something. But if you're a devout Muslim, you of course shouldn't do that. And so it's a mixture of what our laws should be and what our moral principles should be. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, like Kirk dot Com