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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is
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Speaker 4: June second. I can't believe it's already June and it's
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Speaker 4: June second. We're here at the Yreefi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Speaker 2: How are you yet? My microphone remains flag flagless. What's
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call the folks at y Reef. I see
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Speaker 4: what we can get done for you, Blake. It's time
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Speaker 4: to escalate this matter. I want to get right into it.
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Speaker 4: The big story last night was that President Trump and
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Speaker 4: BB netanyahuo Prime Minister of Israel, had a very tense conversation.
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Speaker 4: That story was first reported by Axios, and one of
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Speaker 4: the reporters on that byeline is Mark Capudoh. He's joining
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Speaker 4: us now. Mark, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's
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Speaker 4: good to have you.
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Speaker 5: Oh, great to be here.
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Speaker 4: Your uh, your story yesterday in Axios caused the quite
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Speaker 4: the stir. The headline is you're effing crazy Trump, Trump
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Speaker 4: fumes at net and Yahoo in call on Lebanon. The
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Speaker 4: subtitle is you'd be in prison if it weren't for me.
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Speaker 4: I'm saving your behind.
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Speaker 6: Mark.
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Speaker 4: This like I said, caused quite the stir yesterday. Tell
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Speaker 4: us about your reporting and do you stand by it now?
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Speaker 5: Oh, certainly. We spoke to multiple senior administration officials with
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Speaker 5: knowledge of the call, who we have uses sources of
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Speaker 5: accurate information before. And the reason we were able to
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Speaker 5: report this first is over the weekend, my colleague Barack
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Speaker 5: Ravine and I had done a story about how Trump
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Speaker 5: had made an amendment change to the Iran peace plan,
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Speaker 5: you know that he's hoping to strike with the government there,
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Speaker 5: And during the reporting of that over the weekend, one
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Speaker 5: of our sources had told us that Netanyaho wanted Lebanon
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Speaker 5: to be included in the peace plan, but Trump thought
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Speaker 5: it was too complicated. Then the next day on Saturday,
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Speaker 5: are better set? On Sunday, the Israeli military just unleashed
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Speaker 5: Holy Hell in Lebanon. And knowing what I know of
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Speaker 5: the administration and the fact that there have been some
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Speaker 5: concerns for quite some time that Netanyah himself might not
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Speaker 5: be fully committed to the peace process the way the
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Speaker 5: United States was, I figured that this would greatly upset
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Speaker 5: President Trump. So we began calling based on that hunch.
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Speaker 5: Knowing what we know and Indeed, people told us that
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Speaker 5: this was the contents of the conversation. It's only just
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Speaker 5: one person we spoke to. It was two people who
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Speaker 5: are impeccably who are impeccable sources, as well as another
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Speaker 5: person who was briefed more on the call and didn't
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Speaker 5: have as much knowledge of it. So all of their
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Speaker 5: accounts lined up. They came in separately, and that's why
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Speaker 5: we random story.
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Speaker 2: Now, Mark, we don't always get a glimpse behind the
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Speaker 2: scenes of President Trump's negotiations with world leaders. We know
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Speaker 2: he can be a very forward, aggressive individual. So setting
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Speaker 2: the context for our viewers and listeners, is this a
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Speaker 2: significant shift in how President Trump and Bibi Netanyah, who
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Speaker 2: have interacted in the past. Does this seem like a
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Speaker 2: significant development or have they had some pretty fractious interactions
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Speaker 2: like this before.
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Speaker 5: They have in the past. We've reported them at the
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Speaker 5: time that when Netanyahu had leased some strikes in Syria
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Speaker 5: last year, it really rankled President Trump, And there have
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Speaker 5: been other times, for instance, when the Gods of Peace
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Speaker 5: deal was being hammered out, Trump also had some very
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Speaker 5: frank conversations with him. They have a very long standing relationship.
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Speaker 5: They have shared political advisors.
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Speaker 7: In the past.
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Speaker 5: I would consider them to be sort of brothers, but
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Speaker 5: brothers who sometimes fight, not quite like kanaan Abel, but
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Speaker 5: can sometimes come to some pretty serious trading of words,
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Speaker 5: let's say. And so this was very consistent with that relationship.
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Speaker 5: So you didn't quite ask this question. But if someone
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Speaker 5: would think that there's some sort of rupture between the
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Speaker 5: two that would be permanent, I don't think so, all.
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Speaker 4: Right, So Mark the issue then is Lebanon. So you
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Speaker 4: mentioned that they unleashed Holy Hell on southern Lebanon. I
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Speaker 4: have two questions. It does feel reasonable to me that
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Speaker 4: if Israel's getting struck from terras cells that are supported
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Speaker 4: by Iran out of southern Lebanon, that that should be
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Speaker 4: a separate piece of the deal. Here, How is the
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Speaker 4: administration looking at those two pieces?
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Speaker 6: Now?
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Speaker 4: Israel has said that they're going to continue defending themselves
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Speaker 4: and there's been no change. Is that how you understand it?
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Speaker 5: That's how we understand it. And let's face it, this
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Speaker 5: is a complicated dynamic chess board where the pieces checks
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Speaker 5: happen to be firing at each other with advanced weaponry.
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Speaker 5: And the complication in this tire matter is that Iran,
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Speaker 5: certainly from the perspective of the United States, is a
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Speaker 5: bad actor that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel,
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Speaker 5: and has Bulah is one of its long standing proxies.
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Speaker 5: And there is a belief and an understanding by Trump
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Speaker 5: himself as well as a belief in the administration that
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Speaker 5: Iran is probably stoking Hasbullah or some aspects or some
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Speaker 5: factions in Iran are stoking Hasbullah to attack Israel knowing
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Speaker 5: it's going to emote or prompt this response from that Yahoo,
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Speaker 5: which can then be used as an excuse to scuttle
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Speaker 5: the entire peace talks. And that is part of the
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Speaker 5: sort of complications of figuring out what's really happening in
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Speaker 5: the Middle East and how peace can happen, because the
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Speaker 5: reality is, the dysfunction is such where there are a
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Speaker 5: number of people and a number of factions in groups
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Speaker 5: that just sort of want to stay in perpetual war,
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Speaker 5: and that's one of the things President Trump doesn't want
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Speaker 5: to engage in. However, the reality is the United States
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Speaker 5: did launch these attacks initially on Iran, so we're sort
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Speaker 5: of in the thick of it now.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, as we often say on this show, you
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Speaker 4: can choose when to start a war, but you can't
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Speaker 4: necessarily choose.
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Speaker 6: When to end it.
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Speaker 4: But this this dynamic, you know, we we think of
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Speaker 4: command and control in the terms of the United States,
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Speaker 4: right where we have a president, a Secretary of war
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Speaker 4: and it flows down from there. What is your reporting
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Speaker 4: saying or showing mark on the command and control structure
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Speaker 4: of the Iranian regime at this point? Is it possible
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Speaker 4: there's rogue elements that are fueling this and the moderates
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Speaker 4: are trying to you know, put keep them at bay.
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Speaker 6: Explain that dynamic mark.
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Speaker 5: That's a good question is to like who's really in charge.
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Speaker 5: One of the problems that the United States is experiencing
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Speaker 5: is it's become a victim of its own success. One
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Speaker 5: of the reasons they launched the attack the way it was,
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Speaker 5: the reason President Trump green led it was to decapitate
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Speaker 5: a lot of the leadership in Iran that succeeded. However,
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Speaker 5: Iran was expecting this and has been wargaming this for
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Speaker 5: some time and has formed what's called the Mosaic doctrine.
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Speaker 5: It has a diffuse power structure that was designed to
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Speaker 5: withstand a decapitating blow. So you have sort of these
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Speaker 5: independent or quasi independent operators in different factions in the
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Speaker 5: ier GC and in the Iranian military proper, and so
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Speaker 5: different groups are probably acting in different ways. Some want
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Speaker 5: to have a peace deal, others don't, and those who
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Speaker 5: don't necessarily want a peace deal have a much easier
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Speaker 5: time making sure that there's war.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is super fascinating. So I just want to
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Speaker 4: reiterate you know this. I tweeted out your story yesterday. Mark,
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Speaker 4: I got immediate blowback from I would say, people that
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Speaker 4: want to see the regime overthrown in Iran.
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Speaker 6: I just want to double check you stand by your reporting.
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Speaker 4: You also broke the day before the President Trump, Okay,
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent. You also broke the day before that
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Speaker 4: President Trump was that they were getting rid of the
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Speaker 4: weaponization fund and and and that has proven to be accurate.
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Speaker 4: So you know, I've known you for a bit, Mark,
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Speaker 4: You've reported on us on Charlie. You've you've always been
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Speaker 4: pretty fact based, and so I took it pretty seriously
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Speaker 4: when you put this out there. So so we'll see
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Speaker 4: what happens, Mark Computer.
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Speaker 5: You understand, my my my colleague Baraue Revide has a
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Speaker 5: very long and excellent track history and reporting both in
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Speaker 5: the United States and in the Middle East on these matters.
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Speaker 8: Uh.
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Speaker 5: I felt a little more nervous about putting out what
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Speaker 5: turned out to be the accurate report about Trump scrapping
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Speaker 5: the weaponization Fund than I did about this report about
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Speaker 5: the Trump BB phone call. That is, the report that
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Speaker 5: wound up being confirmed is true. I initially had more
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Speaker 5: concerns about it, whether it was true or not. But
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Speaker 5: that was true, and I'm very confident that my sources
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Speaker 5: here are not lying to me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Mark, thanks for making the time. I know
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Speaker 4: you're traveling. Thanks for calling in.
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Speaker 9: Uh.
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Speaker 4: We will watch this situation closely in any new reporting
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Speaker 4: we have on. But you know, first, first blush. You know,
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Speaker 4: when I saw it, Marks, like, oh, you know, President
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Speaker 4: Trump swearing on a phone call to a world leader
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Speaker 4: doesn't strike me as extraordinarily, you know, groundbreaking. But man,
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Speaker 4: Oman did it cause a stir So Thank thank you, Mark.
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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you soon, Yes, sir, thank you.
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Speaker 5: I hope to talk to you soon.
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Speaker 4: Fuck all right, So I want to get into this
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Speaker 4: story a little bit. So we just had Mark Caputo on,
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Speaker 4: who was one of the reporters that broke that story.
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Speaker 6: Blake and instantly.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I put it out there because I thought
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Speaker 4: it was noteworthy, and I saw Mark's name on it.
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Speaker 4: I know Mark to be a pretty legit reporter. He's
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Speaker 4: by the way, just so you know a little bit
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Speaker 4: of Mark's backstory, he was working at NBC and he
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Speaker 4: wasn't given into the woke crap. He's not he's not
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Speaker 4: a jew hater, and they fired him. So he's a
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Speaker 4: He's a great intrepid old school journalist who just tell
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Speaker 4: he just gets scoops. That's his thing. He just gets scoops.
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Speaker 4: There's no there's no like it's like Mark Alpern. He's yeah,
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Speaker 4: he's not trying to get the admin. He's not trying
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Speaker 4: to get Beebie. I found it very interesting. And I
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Speaker 4: will tell you as somebody that we talk to a
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Speaker 4: lot of students. We have a lot of students on
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Speaker 4: this show. We're gonna be doing a special from our
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Speaker 4: CLS event with all our students. We're gonna interview a
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Speaker 4: bunch of them, have them on the show and get
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Speaker 4: their thoughts. Again, it's so important that this audience is
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Speaker 4: in tune with what young Americans are thinking, and they're
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Speaker 4: telling us at Turning point when they're tabling on campus.
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Speaker 4: They don't know how to defend two things. Two things,
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Speaker 4: and they have people come up and they challenge their
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Speaker 4: ideas and want to debate them. Those two things are
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Speaker 4: Epstein and pedophiles and Israel and Iran.
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Speaker 2: Right, and those attacks are It's one thing, it's inevitable
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Speaker 2: people are going to complain about the war with Iran.
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Speaker 2: There are people who dislike it, there are people who
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Speaker 2: think we shouldn't be having it. But there's another dimension
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Speaker 2: of these attacks which is very crass, and they'll just say, oh,
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Speaker 2: Trump is Benjamin Netyahu's puppet, He's Bibby's puppet. And those
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Speaker 2: people are often they tie it together, yea, with the
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Speaker 2: Epstein thing, where they'll say President Trump protects pedophiles.
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Speaker 4: And well, and so when you see a story like
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Speaker 4: this where it's so clearly it exposes the lie at
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Speaker 4: the root that Trump is not Bebe's puppet. Bib and
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Speaker 4: Trump often are of one mind when it comes to things,
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Speaker 4: and when that happens, you will see them take collective action.
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Speaker 4: But there is a very serious flaw in the theory
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Speaker 4: that President Trump's just getting dog walked into things. Trump
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Speaker 4: went okay, So we go back to the New York
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Speaker 4: Times report. Everybody's in the situation room, bib Net Yahoo,
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Speaker 4: which you know, like Benny Johnson said, Bobe shouldn't have
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Speaker 4: been in the situation I'm actually sympathetic to that. It
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Speaker 4: does seem odd that a foreign leader would be in there,
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Speaker 4: but nevertheless he was a guest of the presidents. So
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Speaker 4: they're in there and they give an assessment, an intel
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Speaker 4: assessment of what's going to happen if you strike a run,
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Speaker 4: and guys like JD. Vance are publicly on the record
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Speaker 4: saying I think this is a dumb idea. Marco Rubio said, listen,
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Speaker 4: if your your goal is to take out the nukes
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Speaker 4: and the missiles, sure, but if your goal is to
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Speaker 4: regime change, this is stupid. This is a garbage report.
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Speaker 4: President Trump liked what he saw because he's always wanted
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Speaker 4: to take out a wrong He's always wanted to take
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Speaker 4: out Iranian nuclear capabilities. Okay, so there is a misconception
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Speaker 4: that Trump is getting dog walked into something. When Trump
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Speaker 4: sees intel that confirms what he wants already to do,
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Speaker 4: which has already been his stated goal and purpose, then
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Speaker 4: sure he's going to find common cause. But when it
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Speaker 4: comes to the fact that Israel is not playing ball
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Speaker 4: in Lebanon and he wants to see that conflict simmer down.
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Speaker 4: So it doesn't it doesn't rock the boat with the
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Speaker 4: Iranian peace negotiations, something he's very committed to. Then they
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Speaker 4: are at different ends of the policy, so he's going
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Speaker 4: to exert his position.
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Speaker 2: President Trump likes to get what he wants. Shockingly, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't. That's that's why he's been president twice, in
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Speaker 2: part because they almost they said he couldn't do it,
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Speaker 2: and similar there's a lot of things he does because
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Speaker 2: people say it can't be done or other people have
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Speaker 2: failed to do it. He's that kind of He's a winner.
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Speaker 2: He likes to get wins that he thinks nobody else
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Speaker 2: has been able to do.
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Speaker 4: And he doesn't fall back on common misconceptions or the
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Speaker 4: foreign policy establishment, you know, perception or conclusion that X
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Speaker 4: Y Z can't be done. He's like, I can force
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Speaker 4: this through by my sheer will and my my force
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Speaker 4: of person.
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Speaker 2: President Trump's self conception of himself is winner. He is
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Speaker 2: a winner who gets wins. That's whether you agree or not.
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Speaker 2: That is how he sees himself. That is how he
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Speaker 2: wants to define his legacy. Now, Like we said, some
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Speaker 2: people think the Iran War is a mistake. I think
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Speaker 2: starting the Iran War was a mistake on balance, but
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Speaker 2: it is something President Trump chose to do. And I
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Speaker 2: don't think he chose to do it because he has
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Speaker 2: some guy in Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem dog walking
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Speaker 2: him the whole time and calling him and saying do this,
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Speaker 2: and he's like, yes, yes, master, which is the line
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Speaker 2: that crazies are putting on there.
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Speaker 4: So let me just play this clip. So this is
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Speaker 4: I consider Megan Kelly a friend. I don't know Sean Ryan.
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Speaker 4: Obviously there's been a lot of controversy around Megan with
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Speaker 4: some of her Israel commentary and another thing she's she's
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Speaker 4: on the other side of President Trump right now. But
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Speaker 4: they did a podcast where they talk about what MAGA
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Speaker 4: is and I'm gonna I'm playing this clip because I
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Speaker 4: think they recorded this before this Axio story broke.
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Speaker 6: But this is the misconception.
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Speaker 4: This is this is the messaging that's going out there
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Speaker 4: to so many people. It's top thirty one, It's core MAGA.
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Speaker 7: Now, I have no idea.
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Speaker 10: I think I know Trump has said from the beginning
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Speaker 10: in his.
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Speaker 8: File supporting Israeli lobby.
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Speaker 11: I have no idea you need.
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Speaker 10: A different acronym. But Trump has said from the beginning
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Speaker 10: that he defines what maga is. Maga is what I
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Speaker 10: say it is, he has said, and he's not wrong.
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Speaker 10: It's his moniker, it's his campaign slogan, and all along
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Speaker 10: he's defined what is and is not maga. And he
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Speaker 10: told me personally, maga will feel the way I want
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Speaker 10: them to feel. I'll tell them how to feel about this,
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Speaker 10: that or the other thing, and they will. And he
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Speaker 10: has been totally right on that. The problem for Trump
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Speaker 10: now is that he has defined maga literally to those
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Speaker 10: who agree with Mark Levin. If you don't agree with
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Speaker 10: Mark Levin, you're not maga, which means you must be
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Speaker 10: a neo khan whose main issue is what's in the
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Speaker 10: best interests of Israel.
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Speaker 4: So I play that clip for you to explain how
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Speaker 4: deep this narrative goes within like the Internet circles and
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Speaker 4: the dark wet like if you support President Trump. They
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Speaker 4: are trying to basically say, not just necessarily Megan or
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Speaker 4: but Sean seems to say it pretty directly right there,
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Speaker 4: that you are a neokhn that you are a pedo protector,
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Speaker 4: that you are an Israel firster, whatever sort of pejorative
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Speaker 4: they're slinging at you, when the truth is probably much
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Speaker 4: more closely aligned with the fact that President Trump wants
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Speaker 4: what's best in the interest of America and he has
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Speaker 4: we have a very special segment. Many of you in
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Speaker 4: the audience are going to know that we had a
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Speaker 4: guest I guess about a month ago. Just let me
00:19:01
Speaker 4: on fire. I couldn't believe it. The teachers unions are
00:19:03
Speaker 4: running amuck. They're basically a super pack for the Democrat
00:19:06
Speaker 4: Party and they're they're protecting child abusers, They're doing all
00:19:11
Speaker 4: kinds of terrible things. And the way you break the
00:19:14
Speaker 4: back of the teachers unions in this country is something
00:19:17
Speaker 4: called school choice. It's very simple and parents love it,
00:19:19
Speaker 4: students thrive on it, and the Democrats and the progressive
00:19:23
Speaker 4: seem to hate it for some reason. But we have
00:19:25
Speaker 4: two amazing guests here in studio that are gonna help
00:19:28
Speaker 4: us under unpack this and what you can do in
00:19:30
Speaker 4: the audience to take advantage of something that was inside
00:19:33
Speaker 4: the one big beautiful bill, and that is Norton Rainy,
00:19:35
Speaker 4: CEO of A Scholarships and Natasha Harris, co founder of
00:19:40
Speaker 4: Colorado Christian Academy.
00:19:41
Speaker 6: Welcome to you both. Thank you, Norton.
00:19:43
Speaker 4: I've known you for a while now. It's good to
00:19:45
Speaker 4: see you, sir too. All right, so I want to
00:19:49
Speaker 4: make sure I got my facts straight. There's something called
00:19:51
Speaker 4: the Education Freedom Tax Credit. Okay, Norton, I'm gonna start
00:19:57
Speaker 4: with you. What is the education Education fore them tax credit?
00:20:01
Speaker 4: And how do people watching here, whether their grandparents, parents,
00:20:05
Speaker 4: or their students and so, how do they take advantage
00:20:07
Speaker 4: of this?
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, what an honor it is to
00:20:09
Speaker 3: be on the Charlie Kirk Show. Actually a big fan
00:20:12
Speaker 3: of you. Thank you so much for just this flame,
00:20:15
Speaker 3: this light that you keep going in our country. The
00:20:17
Speaker 3: Education Freedom Tax Credit is truly an exciting opportunity for
00:20:21
Speaker 3: our country. It's actually a groundbreaking opportunity passed into law
00:20:25
Speaker 3: last year in the big beautiful Bill. President Trump signed
00:20:28
Speaker 3: this in where every single state in America has the
00:20:31
Speaker 3: ability now and every person in America to claim a
00:20:34
Speaker 3: seventeen hundred dollars federal tax credit when they donate money
00:20:38
Speaker 3: to a program like ACE Scholarships or a scholarship Granton organization.
00:20:42
Speaker 3: And what that now means is that Americans have the
00:20:44
Speaker 3: ability to give money receive a credit so kids can
00:20:47
Speaker 3: go to a great private school, they can homeschool their kids,
00:20:51
Speaker 3: and even children that are in a public school have
00:20:54
Speaker 3: the ability to use this money for before and after
00:20:57
Speaker 3: school programs. So this is a all encompassing program that
00:21:00
Speaker 3: is good for America. And the reason why it's so
00:21:03
Speaker 3: critical to your point about the Union stronghold we have
00:21:07
Speaker 3: in America, is that we have a crisis in America.
00:21:10
Speaker 3: We have kids right now that are being left behind.
00:21:12
Speaker 3: It's a two party systems so to speak. You've got
00:21:15
Speaker 3: the haves and they have notnch. You've got those with
00:21:17
Speaker 3: money and those with money they put their kid into
00:21:20
Speaker 3: a private school or live in a neighborhood where a
00:21:23
Speaker 3: good public school exists. But if you're poor, you're oftentimes
00:21:27
Speaker 3: trapped in a school in a zip code that's not
00:21:30
Speaker 3: performing well for you. So what the Education Freedom Tax
00:21:34
Speaker 3: Credit will do. It will level the playing field now
00:21:37
Speaker 3: so that we can actually live the American dream for
00:21:39
Speaker 3: our children where they can be educated, they can graduate,
00:21:43
Speaker 3: they can go to college, the trades, the military, but
00:21:46
Speaker 3: most importantly, whatever they decide to do, they are educated
00:21:49
Speaker 3: and they have a foundation that now prepares them for life.
00:21:52
Speaker 4: I totally agree, and by the way, I just want
00:21:54
Speaker 4: people to understand.
00:21:55
Speaker 6: I met Norton through Charlie.
00:21:58
Speaker 4: You know, Charlie challenge Norton to grow ace because Charlie
00:22:02
Speaker 4: identified this problem long ago. He was ahead of the
00:22:05
Speaker 4: curve naturally. And so I mean, you guys have been
00:22:09
Speaker 4: around for what twenty six years, one hundred and twenty
00:22:11
Speaker 4: one thousand scholarships of like four hundred million dollars delivered
00:22:15
Speaker 4: in scholarship, So you got to proven track record. And
00:22:18
Speaker 4: now this EFTC, this Education Freedom Tax Credit comes along.
00:22:23
Speaker 4: And so if I'm a parent and you guys have
00:22:26
Speaker 4: seized the opportunity, I think it's so great because it's
00:22:29
Speaker 4: so important. So if I'm a parent and I've got
00:22:32
Speaker 4: my kid in a failing public school, I now my
00:22:35
Speaker 4: state has opted into this. By the way, Arizona's not
00:22:39
Speaker 4: opting in because we have Katie Hobbs.
00:22:41
Speaker 6: Another reason.
00:22:41
Speaker 4: We need to get Andy Biggs elected here.
00:22:43
Speaker 6: So the state opts in.
00:22:46
Speaker 4: That then makes me eligible to take my kid out
00:22:49
Speaker 4: of a failing public school. Can the money that I
00:22:52
Speaker 4: paid for tuition I then get a tax credit on?
00:22:54
Speaker 6: Is that how it works?
00:22:55
Speaker 4: Or maybe I can't afford it, but my parents want
00:22:58
Speaker 4: to chip in and help my kids.
00:23:00
Speaker 3: Well, the way you leverage the tax credit is that
00:23:02
Speaker 3: you give the seventeen hundred and then when you file
00:23:04
Speaker 3: your taxes the next year, that's where you receive a
00:23:07
Speaker 3: refund on your money when you follow those taxes. Thirty
00:23:11
Speaker 3: states to date have opted in the program, and so
00:23:13
Speaker 3: that's the first thing that must happen. A governor have
00:23:16
Speaker 3: to says, yes, we want this program in our state.
00:23:19
Speaker 3: And to the credit of a couple Democratic governors, we
00:23:22
Speaker 3: have New York and also Colorado, where our home state
00:23:25
Speaker 3: where Ace was found. That Governor Jared Polis was one
00:23:28
Speaker 3: of the first people to opt in this program because
00:23:30
Speaker 3: he saw the value in education even in a state
00:23:33
Speaker 3: that tends to be blue. So when the governor opts in,
00:23:37
Speaker 3: beginning in January twenty twenty seven, what we will start,
00:23:41
Speaker 3: what we'll start doing today is collecting donations of seventeen
00:23:44
Speaker 3: hundred and then the next year when they file their taxes,
00:23:46
Speaker 3: they get that money back. What this will do is
00:23:49
Speaker 3: that we're going to go from a program that currently
00:23:51
Speaker 3: is serving sixteen thousand kids per year to hundreds of
00:23:54
Speaker 3: thousands of kids, to unlocking possibilities for kids to go
00:23:58
Speaker 3: to the school of their choice, to feel seats in
00:24:01
Speaker 3: private schools. And what we really love is competition in America.
00:24:05
Speaker 3: We think competition makes everyone better. And through this program,
00:24:08
Speaker 3: now what's going to happen is that all boats will rise,
00:24:10
Speaker 3: including even public schools.
00:24:12
Speaker 6: That's totally I totally agree with that. Yeah, go ahead, Blake.
00:24:15
Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's like a lot of these unions that
00:24:19
Speaker 2: we've grappled with, they hate the idea of competition because
00:24:23
Speaker 2: as long as they have everyone stuck going with what
00:24:27
Speaker 2: they had to offer, they have no expectations. It's a monopoly.
00:24:30
Speaker 2: And what can monopolies do. They can jack up the prices,
00:24:34
Speaker 2: effectively taxes their own pay. They don't need to deliver
00:24:38
Speaker 2: a high quality product. The pressure is very low on them.
00:24:40
Speaker 2: I mean, look what happened during COVID, where teachers could say,
00:24:43
Speaker 2: we demand you shut down schools and we don't want
00:24:46
Speaker 2: to go back because we feel it's unsafe for whatever,
00:24:49
Speaker 2: and you're gonna learn through a laptop.
00:24:51
Speaker 4: This is a great transition, Natasha. So you have a
00:24:54
Speaker 4: massive background in private school So I have what Blake
00:24:57
Speaker 4: just described. During COVID, the public schools where I was at,
00:25:00
Speaker 4: we're all closed down, but we were sending our kids
00:25:03
Speaker 4: to a Christian private school, and they just got creative.
00:25:07
Speaker 4: They took everything outside. You know, this is early days.
00:25:10
Speaker 4: We didn't you know, so they were trying to be cautious,
00:25:12
Speaker 4: but all the education happened outside. None of the kids
00:25:15
Speaker 4: wore a mask. Our kids had no idea cow it
00:25:17
Speaker 4: was even happening because the Christian school got creative and
00:25:20
Speaker 4: they decided locally, Hey, we're going to keep learning, We're
00:25:24
Speaker 4: going to keep meeting in person. And it benefited and
00:25:27
Speaker 4: blessed my children tremendously. You have this background, you understand
00:25:30
Speaker 4: the power of private school, of private education, Christian education.
00:25:34
Speaker 6: So explain that to the audience.
00:25:37
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you for that. I think it goes back
00:25:40
Speaker 8: to the family, right, It goes back to the parents
00:25:42
Speaker 8: who knows their children most deeply. They know their strengths,
00:25:46
Speaker 8: their weaknesses, right, their hopes, their dreams. And so when
00:25:49
Speaker 8: you look at our education system and you say, we
00:25:54
Speaker 8: live in the land of the free, but education we
00:25:57
Speaker 8: don't have that choice most times, right, financial barriers to
00:26:01
Speaker 8: making that choice for our kids to be able to
00:26:03
Speaker 8: go to private schools or another public school right that
00:26:06
Speaker 8: suits their kids' needs. And so this really I'm excited
00:26:09
Speaker 8: about it because no different than COVID right where you
00:26:12
Speaker 8: have innovation that comes into play to really serve the child.
00:26:16
Speaker 8: That's what we should be doing an education. Come where
00:26:18
Speaker 8: they are and what their needs are, and what their
00:26:20
Speaker 8: hopes and dreams and academic goals are and meet them
00:26:24
Speaker 8: where they're at.
00:26:25
Speaker 12: Right.
00:26:26
Speaker 8: We can do that with this freedom tax credit because
00:26:28
Speaker 8: we put the money back in the hands of the parents,
00:26:30
Speaker 8: and the parents can make that decision of what school
00:26:33
Speaker 8: best suits their family and aligns with their value.
00:26:35
Speaker 4: I love that, and gosh it, I can just tell
00:26:38
Speaker 4: you I've lived it. And Arizona they're trying to claw
00:26:41
Speaker 4: back the school choice that Governor Doucy. By the way,
00:26:44
Speaker 4: people disagree, love Doucy, hate Doocy, whatever. Deucey is a
00:26:49
Speaker 4: freaking hero in my book, because Arizona is leading the
00:26:52
Speaker 4: pack when it comes to school choice. You get a
00:26:54
Speaker 4: seventy five hundred dollars credit every year to send your
00:26:56
Speaker 4: kids wherever you want, and the public teachers unions hate it.
00:27:00
Speaker 4: But what has happened in Arizona. You have this thriving
00:27:04
Speaker 4: entrepreneurial spirit around education. You know where my kids go,
00:27:08
Speaker 4: They've got like a eight hundred person waiting list the
00:27:10
Speaker 4: school was only formed a couple of years ago. It's
00:27:12
Speaker 4: and it's thriving, and the kids are thriving because they're
00:27:15
Speaker 4: doing things a different way. They're getting back to classical education,
00:27:18
Speaker 4: they're inspiring entrepreneurship.
00:27:20
Speaker 6: All this thing.
00:27:21
Speaker 4: The public schools are trapped in like a hell of
00:27:23
Speaker 4: their own making. But then they control all this political power,
00:27:27
Speaker 4: and when you break the back of that, you unleash
00:27:30
Speaker 4: the American spirit in this way, right, I mean, that's
00:27:32
Speaker 4: what we're talking about.
00:27:33
Speaker 2: But it's such a huge win. Just you think of
00:27:36
Speaker 2: where if you have a child, where are they going
00:27:38
Speaker 2: to spend most of their like more hours than anywhere
00:27:41
Speaker 2: else in the first eighteen years of their life. It's
00:27:44
Speaker 2: going to be in schools. And you concede that to
00:27:47
Speaker 2: the state, to actors like unionized teachers that we know
00:27:51
Speaker 2: are ideologically left wing. We know what they love to
00:27:53
Speaker 2: push and for. As you say, I think Governor Doucy
00:27:57
Speaker 2: has to be considered a hero because he is freeing
00:27:59
Speaker 2: up what is by far the most important thing that
00:28:02
Speaker 2: your child is going to do.
00:28:03
Speaker 3: I go ahead, Oh, I was just going to say
00:28:06
Speaker 3: to your point about the K through twelve system, a
00:28:09
Speaker 3: child will be in school for ten thousand hours from
00:28:11
Speaker 3: kindergarten through twelfth grade. And when you think about that
00:28:14
Speaker 3: the book Good to Great he talks about in that
00:28:16
Speaker 3: book excellence, he actually is achieved by ten thousand hours
00:28:19
Speaker 3: of doing something really well.
00:28:20
Speaker 4: Well.
00:28:21
Speaker 3: The same is true. If you're in a school system
00:28:22
Speaker 3: for ten thousand hours and you're not being educated and
00:28:25
Speaker 3: you're in the wrong place, that's not good for you. You're
00:28:28
Speaker 3: going to have an opposite effect and that child will
00:28:30
Speaker 3: not do well. Depression, anxiety, and suicide are greater than
00:28:34
Speaker 3: ever before. But the beauty is we know that there
00:28:37
Speaker 3: is a choice, there is a hope right now where
00:28:39
Speaker 3: you can do something so that every child can be educated.
00:28:42
Speaker 3: What Arizona's done is remarkable. What thirty plus states around
00:28:45
Speaker 3: the country have done already opting in this program is
00:28:48
Speaker 3: awesome because that's good for children and it's good for America.
00:28:52
Speaker 3: It now is going to enable people to be educated,
00:28:54
Speaker 3: and that's good economically for our country so that children
00:28:58
Speaker 3: are not relying on the government for their.
00:29:00
Speaker 4: Give us a story Norton to bring this home of
00:29:03
Speaker 4: how this actually is impacting lives well.
00:29:06
Speaker 3: Number One, the results are undeniable. We have so many
00:29:08
Speaker 3: data points about how well our kids are doing. But
00:29:10
Speaker 3: like you said, it really comes down to the stories
00:29:13
Speaker 3: of our kids and our parents and how they're being
00:29:15
Speaker 3: benefited by school choice. And about three months ago, the
00:29:18
Speaker 3: President reached out to us and said that we're going
00:29:20
Speaker 3: to do a feature on school choice for Black History Month,
00:29:23
Speaker 3: and we won a story. And so I had the
00:29:25
Speaker 3: honor of going to the White House with a lady
00:29:27
Speaker 3: named Greta Alexander who's a mother of a beautiful girl
00:29:31
Speaker 3: named Miracle in Dallas, Texas. And her story is heartbreaking
00:29:35
Speaker 3: and it's also remarkable. At the same time, she had
00:29:38
Speaker 3: an older son and he was subjected to a school
00:29:40
Speaker 3: that wasn't working for him. He got involved in the
00:29:42
Speaker 3: wrong audience and crowd and sadly, he committed suicide.
00:29:46
Speaker 2: He lost his life.
00:29:48
Speaker 3: And she said, I made a promise to make sure
00:29:50
Speaker 3: that my younger daughter, Miracle would be educated and that
00:29:53
Speaker 3: she would be in an environment that was positive and
00:29:55
Speaker 3: affirming for who she is. And because of a scholarships,
00:29:58
Speaker 3: her daughter, Miracle was able to go to to a
00:30:00
Speaker 3: great private school in Dallas, and she truly is a miracle.
00:30:03
Speaker 3: She turned her life around. She's graduating from high school
00:30:05
Speaker 3: this year and when Greta stood on the stage with
00:30:08
Speaker 3: the President next to them and said, mister President, what
00:30:12
Speaker 3: you have done by signing this piece of legislation, the
00:30:15
Speaker 3: Education Freedom Tax Credit, is not just going to benefit me.
00:30:19
Speaker 3: It's going to benefit the hundreds of thousands of moms
00:30:22
Speaker 3: just like me who are looking for hope, who are
00:30:25
Speaker 3: looking for a school, but right now are subjected to
00:30:28
Speaker 3: a school that's not working for our children. So you
00:30:31
Speaker 3: are literally saving lives, not just academically, but also you
00:30:35
Speaker 3: are changing lives for people now have the ability to thrive.
00:30:39
Speaker 3: These stories are real. We see right now once again depression, anxiety,
00:30:43
Speaker 3: and suicide greater than ever. But conversely, like you mentioned
00:30:47
Speaker 3: with your kids and how they're thriving, children who are
00:30:49
Speaker 3: in the right environment, they smile, they're happy, and they're
00:30:52
Speaker 3: also optimistic about their life. And that's what we see
00:30:55
Speaker 3: today with the more than one hundred and twenty one
00:30:58
Speaker 3: thousand students who've been served in our close to one
00:31:00
Speaker 3: hundred percent who graduate. These are real lives of kids
00:31:03
Speaker 3: who now have a chance to make it in this world,
00:31:06
Speaker 3: and that's a power school choice.
00:31:07
Speaker 4: Our country stronger for it. Maybe Natasha talk about what
00:31:11
Speaker 4: this means to some of these private schools too, right,
00:31:14
Speaker 4: I mean, what a massive boon for them as well.
00:31:17
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, it's an absolute game changer. I mean, this
00:31:20
Speaker 8: is exponentially going to change the landscape of education in
00:31:23
Speaker 8: the United States. You know, taking individual credit programs like essays.
00:31:28
Speaker 8: I know that Arizona has that program, and we have
00:31:32
Speaker 8: each of these individual states with these programs. But at
00:31:35
Speaker 8: a national level, now we're going to see the opportunity
00:31:39
Speaker 8: for hundreds of thousands of scholarships. So let's say that
00:31:43
Speaker 8: ten percent of taxpayers that have a seventeen hundred dollars
00:31:46
Speaker 8: tax liability participate, that's almost ten billion dollars that's going
00:31:50
Speaker 8: to flow into private scholarships.
00:31:52
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
00:31:53
Speaker 4: If you realize how big this problem is and what
00:31:55
Speaker 4: that can mean to change the landscape of education in
00:31:57
Speaker 4: this country. And listen, at turning point, we're so focused
00:32:01
Speaker 4: on the next generation, you realize in a very innate
00:32:04
Speaker 4: way how young they're getting the kids with in these
00:32:07
Speaker 4: adoctrination factories and the just the dead end education. So
00:32:11
Speaker 4: to hear, potentially ten billion dollars maybe more, right, I mean,
00:32:14
Speaker 4: it's just the more people that take advantage of this,
00:32:16
Speaker 4: the more money is going to flow into private education,
00:32:18
Speaker 4: classical education, hybrid education. The opportunity is immense. And you
00:32:23
Speaker 4: think about this kind of what Trump accounts, you know,
00:32:25
Speaker 4: like thinking about this next generation. Some of the stuff
00:32:27
Speaker 4: in the big beautiful bill is truly revolutionary for our
00:32:31
Speaker 4: country in the best of ways. Okay, so we have
00:32:33
Speaker 4: to get down to it. I like, you gotta talk Norton.
00:32:37
Speaker 4: There's people in the audience that probably don't even really
00:32:39
Speaker 4: understand what the tax credit is, how to take advantage
00:32:42
Speaker 4: of it, Like the whole point of this. I want
00:32:44
Speaker 4: you and the audience to feel empowered with your kid's education,
00:32:47
Speaker 4: your grandkid's education, whatever that is. You have to know
00:32:50
Speaker 4: what you're talking about. So break it down in layman's terms,
00:32:55
Speaker 4: like what's a tax credit? How do they take advantage
00:32:57
Speaker 4: of it? When can they take advantage of it?
00:32:59
Speaker 2: How to do it well?
00:33:00
Speaker 3: Number one is that most families in America will qualify.
00:33:03
Speaker 3: The qualifying metric is three hundred percent of your meeting
00:33:06
Speaker 3: income in your neighborhood, and that means a lot of
00:33:08
Speaker 3: families who make four hundred thousand dollars unless per year
00:33:11
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Speaker 4: They got a big election today and listen, we're pulling
00:37:07
Speaker 4: out all the stops for the next governor of the
00:37:10
Speaker 4: great state of California. And that's Steve Hilton, who joins
00:37:13
Speaker 4: us now. Steve, welcome back.
00:37:16
Speaker 6: Hey guys, great to be with you.
00:37:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, listen, you've got a lot going on today,
00:37:20
Speaker 4: so thank you for making the time.
00:37:22
Speaker 6: Give us the state of play.
00:37:24
Speaker 4: I'm seeing and I don't like it, Steve, I'm seeing
00:37:27
Speaker 4: polls with a certain former cabinet official of the Biden
00:37:32
Speaker 4: years up at the top.
00:37:35
Speaker 6: And I don't like that at all. What is the
00:37:38
Speaker 6: state of play?
00:37:39
Speaker 13: So I think that the accurate way to say it
00:37:43
Speaker 13: is that we're now in a three horse race in
00:37:45
Speaker 13: California for two spots. We have this insane system the
00:37:49
Speaker 13: top two. That means you could have two Democrats because
00:37:53
Speaker 13: the other two are Democrats.
00:37:54
Speaker 6: You've got Biden's useless form.
00:37:55
Speaker 13: HHS secretary, have you, Ebisara, And you've got the billionaire
00:37:58
Speaker 13: climate fanatic Tom Star, who's spent now two hundred million
00:38:02
Speaker 13: dollars more than that two hundred and twenty million dollars
00:38:05
Speaker 13: if he is trying to buy this election.
00:38:07
Speaker 6: Now, here's what we're.
00:38:08
Speaker 13: Looking at with the polls. In the last week, we've
00:38:10
Speaker 13: had a huge number of polls. Most of them have
00:38:14
Speaker 13: shown me in the top two, some of them leading,
00:38:17
Speaker 13: some of them second. One of them showed me actually third,
00:38:21
Speaker 13: one point behind Tom Steier. And the truth is, when
00:38:25
Speaker 13: we look at these polls, they're all telling the same stories.
00:38:29
Speaker 13: Is getting tighter at the top because the Democrats are consolidating,
00:38:32
Speaker 13: so some of their lower cat You see it right there,
00:38:35
Speaker 13: Katie Porter. She was on twelve or thirteen points about
00:38:38
Speaker 13: two weeks ago. Now she's right down in single digits.
00:38:40
Speaker 13: So that's what's going on. The most important thing to
00:38:43
Speaker 13: bear in mind, though, is that when we look at
00:38:46
Speaker 13: our internal polls and some of the polls that have
00:38:48
Speaker 13: been out there run by campaigns, including a poll from
00:38:52
Speaker 13: well respected Democrat polls the last Friday that had me
00:38:55
Speaker 13: leading at twenty seven, for Sarah at twenty six, Styre
00:38:58
Speaker 13: at twenty two. Here's the important point. It had Chad Bianco,
00:39:01
Speaker 13: the other Republican, at nine. And so the first point
00:39:05
Speaker 13: to make is that in this if this was a
00:39:07
Speaker 13: regular primary, as we have in most other states, then
00:39:11
Speaker 13: I'll have won the Republican primary by landslide. In these polls,
00:39:15
Speaker 13: we're doubling We're doubling Chad Bianco's vote.
00:39:18
Speaker 2: Vote in all the poles.
00:39:20
Speaker 13: And that's the really important point here that I want
00:39:22
Speaker 13: to emphasize to everyone who's listening and watching in California.
00:39:26
Speaker 13: We've got an amazing actually outside of California wants to
00:39:30
Speaker 13: help turn our state around because it's so important for America.
00:39:33
Speaker 13: We've got a really important opportunity this year. It's a
00:39:35
Speaker 13: golden opportunity because you can see it in the energy
00:39:39
Speaker 13: around Spencer Pratt's campaign in LA. You can see it
00:39:41
Speaker 13: on the road when we're going up and down the state,
00:39:44
Speaker 13: the crowds that are coming to our events. There is
00:39:46
Speaker 13: real hunger for change in California this year. That's not
00:39:49
Speaker 13: just hyperbole. You can see it in the numbers. There's
00:39:52
Speaker 13: an every pole, a majority, a clear majority, sometimes as
00:39:55
Speaker 13: high as sixty percent say that the state is going
00:39:57
Speaker 13: in the wrong direction. In other words, in the general
00:40:00
Speaker 13: election in November, I truly believe we can win because
00:40:03
Speaker 13: the level of anger at what's gone on with the homelessness,
00:40:06
Speaker 13: the crime, the chaos, gas prices, housing costs, the taxes,
00:40:10
Speaker 13: the fraud, the level of anger is off the charts,
00:40:13
Speaker 13: and so we really can win this year, especially because
00:40:16
Speaker 13: the other Democrats, these Democrat candidates are so bad.
00:40:19
Speaker 6: They've got nothing positive to offer.
00:40:21
Speaker 13: They've got offering no change only that won't happen unless
00:40:26
Speaker 13: you get me in the top two. So actually, in
00:40:29
Speaker 13: some ways, I think the general election is going to
00:40:32
Speaker 13: be easier to navigate than this primary today. The most
00:40:35
Speaker 13: important point people have to bear in mind if you're
00:40:39
Speaker 13: a voter in California and you're thinking, Steve looks like
00:40:41
Speaker 13: he's got this in most of the Polsi's in the
00:40:43
Speaker 13: top two. Let's try and get Chad Bianco in the
00:40:46
Speaker 13: top two and vote for him. That is a disastrous mistake.
00:40:50
Speaker 13: He's too far behind, it's not going to happen. Every
00:40:53
Speaker 13: vote for him or for any other candidate than me,
00:40:56
Speaker 13: actually makes it more likely we'll get two Democrats, which
00:41:00
Speaker 13: is a disaster.
00:41:01
Speaker 2: So please take that very seriously.
00:41:03
Speaker 13: Make sure you vote today and for the only candidate
00:41:05
Speaker 13: who can realistically get in the top two, and that's me.
00:41:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I saw you were on Laura Ingram show
00:41:11
Speaker 4: yesterday last evening you called directly? Are you and Laura
00:41:16
Speaker 4: sort of collectively called for Chad Bianco to drop out?
00:41:20
Speaker 4: I got nothing against Chad Bianco per se, but like
00:41:23
Speaker 4: he's got no chance here. Okay, So have you been
00:41:26
Speaker 4: in contact is he? Is he signaling anything like throw
00:41:29
Speaker 4: your weight behind Steve?
00:41:30
Speaker 6: And have we gotten any follow through here?
00:41:32
Speaker 4: No?
00:41:32
Speaker 13: We've tried, believe me. I mean weeks ago, I tried.
00:41:35
Speaker 13: Many others have tried as well. I think we've got
00:41:38
Speaker 13: to the point where it's clear that he's not going
00:41:40
Speaker 13: to do that. So I'm really appealing directly to his supporters,
00:41:43
Speaker 13: and I make the same point as you. Nothing personal.
00:41:45
Speaker 13: I have the highest respect for the campaign he's run,
00:41:48
Speaker 13: for the service he's given in law enforcement for many, many,
00:41:51
Speaker 13: many decades. We agree on pretty much every policy era.
00:41:56
Speaker 13: That was very evident during the TV debates. You have
00:41:58
Speaker 13: a good relationship.
00:42:00
Speaker 4: You know.
00:42:00
Speaker 13: It's nothing personal.
00:42:01
Speaker 6: It really isn't.
00:42:02
Speaker 13: And in fact, I've said very clearly I would love
00:42:04
Speaker 13: to have Chad on the team. Let's work together to
00:42:07
Speaker 13: save California and whatever role he would like. But that
00:42:10
Speaker 13: hasn't unlocked the path to a conversation, I'm afraid, And
00:42:15
Speaker 13: so I'm just appealing directly to chad supporters, and again
00:42:19
Speaker 13: I want to say very clearly, I respect that.
00:42:21
Speaker 6: I don't want to.
00:42:22
Speaker 13: Talk you out of that, except to say this, we
00:42:25
Speaker 13: all want the same thing to save California Chad does.
00:42:28
Speaker 13: That's why he's put himself out there this year. Everyone
00:42:31
Speaker 13: who's supporting him, and right now, it's not about the
00:42:34
Speaker 13: personalities or even the policies. It's actually just about the math.
00:42:38
Speaker 13: It's very I hate that that's the case with this system,
00:42:41
Speaker 13: but it is. And so let's not throw.
00:42:43
Speaker 2: Away this chance.
00:42:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I have to play this. I don't
00:42:46
Speaker 4: want to. I don't want to discourage anybody from voting.
00:42:49
Speaker 4: So if you have a ballot, or if you don't
00:42:51
Speaker 4: and you want to go vote, go vote in California today,
00:42:55
Speaker 4: Go vote in person, drop your ballot off, whatever you
00:42:58
Speaker 4: got to do. I don't care which way you do, Steve.
00:43:00
Speaker 4: I don't know if you have direct action out of
00:43:02
Speaker 4: how you prefer people doing this. But this story came
00:43:04
Speaker 4: out yesterday. I just want to get your quick it's
00:43:05
Speaker 4: a quick clip, get your reaction to it, and encourage
00:43:09
Speaker 4: voters despite it to get out.
00:43:11
Speaker 12: Twenty seven vote by mail ballots were found burned inside
00:43:16
Speaker 12: a ballot box in Los Angeles, just two days before
00:43:19
Speaker 12: the California primaries. Election officials discovered the damaged ballots and
00:43:23
Speaker 12: they filed a report with the police department. They say
00:43:26
Speaker 12: a separate voting center was also vandalized.
00:43:29
Speaker 4: Okay again, I only bring it up because I want
00:43:32
Speaker 4: you to address those people in the audience, Steve that
00:43:36
Speaker 4: are thinking, ah, why it doesn't matter or anything like that.
00:43:40
Speaker 4: Tell them to give them the marching orders right now.
00:43:42
Speaker 6: Steve.
00:43:43
Speaker 13: Yeah, thank you. And look, there's so much wrong with
00:43:45
Speaker 13: the election system here. This insane sending out ballots to
00:43:49
Speaker 13: everybody when we know that the voter roles are so wrong.
00:43:53
Speaker 2: But here's the and these drop. The whole thing is ridiculous.
00:43:56
Speaker 13: But of course we can only change it if we
00:43:58
Speaker 13: actually get elected. And that's why the most important message
00:44:02
Speaker 13: here is the president's words in twenty twenty.
00:44:04
Speaker 6: Four make it too big to rig.
00:44:06
Speaker 13: That's the most important thing to bear in mind. Every
00:44:08
Speaker 13: single vote counts, every single one. The other thing I'd
00:44:11
Speaker 13: just say is actually, even here in California, we're seeing
00:44:14
Speaker 13: some progress thanks to the Trump administration and in fact
00:44:18
Speaker 13: my running mate Attorney General, which is that we've actually,
00:44:22
Speaker 13: because of lawsuits filed by the federal government, the cleanup
00:44:26
Speaker 13: of the voter rolls is really happening in California. Millions
00:44:30
Speaker 13: of millions of incorrect names have been removed from the
00:44:34
Speaker 13: voter rolls just in the last year. That's real progress.
00:44:37
Speaker 13: The second thing that's a big deal is that this
00:44:42
Speaker 13: insanity that we have in California, which is they count
00:44:45
Speaker 13: the votes even if they arrive seven up to seven
00:44:48
Speaker 13: days after election day. And there's been so many reports
00:44:51
Speaker 13: of Shenanigan's ad around that people writing the date on
00:44:54
Speaker 13: the ballot that's actually cast after election day and pretending
00:44:58
Speaker 13: it was sent in before. Well, the Supreme Court is
00:45:01
Speaker 13: now looking at a case we expect a ruling could
00:45:03
Speaker 13: be any day that will make that illegal nationwide. Election
00:45:08
Speaker 13: day is election day, and that's it that I'm sure
00:45:11
Speaker 13: will be in effect for our general election in November
00:45:13
Speaker 13: in California.
00:45:14
Speaker 6: And so the system is getting better.
00:45:17
Speaker 13: But the only way to be sure we can get
00:45:19
Speaker 13: in a position to change it is to go vote
00:45:21
Speaker 13: today if you haven't already.
00:45:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, and guys, I just thank you for that, Steve.
00:45:25
Speaker 4: The systems getting better. There are changes, the voter rolls
00:45:28
Speaker 4: have been cleaned up. Some still work to do, but
00:45:31
Speaker 4: these are all wind in our sales right here to
00:45:33
Speaker 4: get Steve over the finish line and get him in
00:45:35
Speaker 4: the top two.
00:45:36
Speaker 6: So do not lose faith.
00:45:37
Speaker 4: The worst thing you could do, whether you're a big
00:45:40
Speaker 4: Pratt supporter, you're a big Steve Hilton supporter in California,
00:45:43
Speaker 4: is to give in denihilism into doomerism. Just get out
00:45:46
Speaker 4: and get it done today. Get your ballot in the box,
00:45:49
Speaker 4: go in person, hand it off in person. Whatever it
00:45:52
Speaker 4: is you gotta do, tell your boss you got to
00:45:53
Speaker 4: take a long lunch, whatever, get your ballot in today,
00:45:58
Speaker 4: get behind Steve Hilton. We have to have a viable
00:46:02
Speaker 4: Republican candidate in the state of California. That is step one,
00:46:05
Speaker 4: step two, Steve. And you know this well, We've got
00:46:07
Speaker 4: voter ID on the ballot in November. That's gonna be
00:46:10
Speaker 4: more wind in our sales. The base is going to
00:46:12
Speaker 4: be motivated to get out in California needs to change desperately.
00:46:16
Speaker 4: Steve Hilton. We got your back. Vote Steve Hilton today,
00:46:19
Speaker 4: do it, do it now. Do it for California, do
00:46:21
Speaker 4: it for the country. Steve, we got your back. We're
00:46:23
Speaker 4: praying for a great result tonight.
00:46:25
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, appreciate it very much.
00:46:27
Speaker 6: Thanks all right.
00:46:30
Speaker 4: I want to get into something because I've been texting
00:46:32
Speaker 4: back and forth with Rich Barris, who we have on
00:46:34
Speaker 4: the show a lot. He's upholster and he keeps sending
00:46:37
Speaker 4: me these like signals. He's like, Andrew, you don't understand.
00:46:40
Speaker 4: They're getting more and more radical. The Democrat Party of
00:46:45
Speaker 4: the last generation is dead. They are behold into the
00:46:49
Speaker 4: activist base and slowly are being transformed into DSA. Most
00:46:54
Speaker 4: Democrats essentially ascribed to socialism, so they're not like you know,
00:47:01
Speaker 4: capitalists that like to distribute the wealth. No, they're actually
00:47:06
Speaker 4: legitimately socialists. Now, so when you get blackpilled on President Trump,
00:47:12
Speaker 4: if you're tempted to give into nihilism or duomerism, do
00:47:15
Speaker 4: you not understand that what we're up against is a
00:47:18
Speaker 4: socialist behemoth that is growing in size, in they're becoming
00:47:22
Speaker 4: more and more radicalized.
00:47:24
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to come a tremendous a
00:47:25
Speaker 2: tremendous crisis, because yeah, we we but we lucked out
00:47:30
Speaker 2: in America frankly that the Democrat Party has always been
00:47:33
Speaker 2: left wing, but we dodged having this very large socialist,
00:47:38
Speaker 2: overtly Marxist party. The way is very common in Europe,
00:47:42
Speaker 2: it's very common throughout the Third World. Unfortunately, we have
00:47:46
Speaker 2: imported the Third World to America, and we've imported Third
00:47:48
Speaker 2: World ideologies, and that means we have young people, the
00:47:52
Speaker 2: Hassan Piker followers of this world, the AOC followers of
00:47:55
Speaker 2: this world, the as we're about to see Bernie Sanders
00:47:57
Speaker 2: followers of this world who actually just embrace socialism, government
00:48:02
Speaker 2: ownership of the means of production, and abolishing private ownership
00:48:07
Speaker 2: of things, abolishing private property.
00:48:08
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:48:09
Speaker 4: So let's just go ahead and play this. This is
00:48:11
Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders. This is big new idea, millions of engagements.
00:48:15
Speaker 4: It's not a new idea. This is as old as
00:48:18
Speaker 4: Marxism itself, but nevertheless he's presenting it as a new idea.
00:48:22
Speaker 6: Thirty two.
00:48:23
Speaker 9: In the coming weeks, I will introduce the American AI
00:48:28
Speaker 9: Sovereign Wealth Fund Act. This legislation would give the public
00:48:33
Speaker 9: a direct ownership stake in the largest AI companies in
00:48:37
Speaker 9: America through a one time fifty percent tax, not on profits,
00:48:43
Speaker 9: but on stock. It would guarantee that the trillions potentially
00:48:48
Speaker 9: created by AI are used to improve the lives of
00:48:52
Speaker 9: all of us, not simply to make the richest people
00:48:56
Speaker 9: on earth even richer.
00:48:58
Speaker 4: So, Blake, you're a scholarly man, and you know the Constitution.
00:49:04
Speaker 4: Where in the Constitution does it say you can just
00:49:06
Speaker 4: seize the means of production?
00:49:08
Speaker 2: Well, so you Actually the sad thing is is you could.
00:49:11
Speaker 2: You would just have to compensate them for it. Although
00:49:13
Speaker 2: that's why he's clearly framing it as a tax. If
00:49:16
Speaker 2: he says, if I frame it as a tax, then
00:49:19
Speaker 2: it's not a Taking's the way it usually would be.
00:49:21
Speaker 2: If the government's going to seize your house, then they
00:49:24
Speaker 2: have to pay.
00:49:24
Speaker 6: You for the house or things like inminute domain.
00:49:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, do they have to pay you for the
00:49:28
Speaker 2: house for public purpose? But if he's framing it as
00:49:30
Speaker 2: a tax, clearly his gambit is we can just take
00:49:32
Speaker 2: fifty percent of your company and it's a tax, it's
00:49:35
Speaker 2: not a taking. You don't have to pay them five
00:49:37
Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars or whatever it would be for it.
00:49:41
Speaker 2: And it's also, besides being a scholar of the constitution,
00:49:44
Speaker 2: scholar of history, it's a very sinister thing that he's
00:49:47
Speaker 2: doing because if you want to look, it's very easy
00:49:50
Speaker 2: to spin this. Some people, oh, hey, I it's big,
00:49:51
Speaker 2: it's rich, we're taking it for the public good. But
00:49:54
Speaker 2: so many countries declines begin when you decide to have
00:49:58
Speaker 2: the government take over what is a thriving private sector endeavor.
00:50:02
Speaker 6: Britain.
00:50:03
Speaker 2: Britain used to be as rich as the United States.
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Speaker 2: did it on the backs of free enterprise. They were
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00:50:15
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00:50:24
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00:50:28
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00:50:34
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00:50:37
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00:50:50
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00:51:02
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00:51:05
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00:51:12
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00:51:39
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00:51:46
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00:51:50
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00:51:52
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00:51:56
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00:51:58
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00:52:01
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00:52:28
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Speaker 4: I will introduce our guests in studio, and that's Mike
00:54:24
Speaker 4: Cavanaugh to Welcome to the studio.
00:54:27
Speaker 14: Thank you guys.
00:54:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I first connected with you just like on Twitter.
00:54:32
Speaker 4: DM Actually and I noticed you you had written a
00:54:35
Speaker 4: song after Charlie was assassinated, and I thought it was
00:54:38
Speaker 4: so beautiful, and I could tell that your heart was
00:54:41
Speaker 4: just so in this, like in the right space, and
00:54:44
Speaker 4: your heart was to tell Charlie's story and to lift
00:54:48
Speaker 4: up a great man in a world that is unaccustomed
00:54:51
Speaker 4: to doing so. But that was my perception. Why did
00:54:53
Speaker 4: you write a tribute song to Charlie Kirkmike?
00:54:56
Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, the day it happens, like many of I
00:55:00
Speaker 14: was at a lot of emotions. Anger was one of them.
00:55:03
Speaker 14: And you know, I didn't consider it right away writing
00:55:07
Speaker 14: a song. I actually a friend of mine had written
00:55:09
Speaker 14: a song about Charlie Kirk and I happened to see
00:55:11
Speaker 14: it on X and I commented on it. I said,
00:55:16
Speaker 14: like a good job with song, and then he said
00:55:18
Speaker 14: your turn, and that put the idea in my head.
00:55:20
Speaker 14: And then.
00:55:22
Speaker 15: Everything was still very raw.
00:55:23
Speaker 14: I mean, I think it was only a few days
00:55:25
Speaker 14: after it happened, so my emotions were still very raw.
00:55:27
Speaker 14: And I remember picking up the guitar and you know,
00:55:30
Speaker 14: thinking all right, maybe I do have something to say,
00:55:31
Speaker 14: and about ten fifteen minutes of like strumming around, I
00:55:34
Speaker 14: remember just like saying out loud, I don't really have
00:55:37
Speaker 14: a song today, and then I said, well, that could
00:55:42
Speaker 14: be the line of a song, and I kind of
00:55:45
Speaker 14: went from there.
00:55:46
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, isn't that interesting kind of when you get
00:55:50
Speaker 4: stripped bare of like what you think you're supposed to say,
00:55:52
Speaker 4: and you just say what you actually that's right, mean
00:55:55
Speaker 4: and feel what's real? How you kind of end up
00:55:58
Speaker 4: arriving at a deeper truth. I've seen this song everywhere
00:56:03
Speaker 4: now on x it's really blown up and one of
00:56:06
Speaker 4: the you know, people that have been promoting it is
00:56:08
Speaker 4: our friend Tommy Robinson over in the UK. You went
00:56:11
Speaker 4: over to the UK to sing this song live in
00:56:13
Speaker 4: front of like tens of thousands of people.
00:56:16
Speaker 6: What was that like?
00:56:17
Speaker 4: It's incredible, very and how did you get connected with Tommy?
00:56:20
Speaker 14: Yeah? Same thing on xx as it can be an
00:56:22
Speaker 14: amazing place. It can be a crazy place too, but yeah,
00:56:25
Speaker 14: I know he heard my music and say.
00:56:28
Speaker 15: Mate, you gotta come over and sing it. Yeah, I can't.
00:56:30
Speaker 14: Really do, And so yeah, we connected and yeah he's like,
00:56:34
Speaker 14: we're doing a Charlie Kirk tribute. We love you to
00:56:36
Speaker 14: sing the song and the rest of his history.
00:56:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible, It really speaks to just what what
00:56:42
Speaker 2: a figure he was around the world that we saw.
00:56:44
Speaker 2: We saw memorials in in Britain, we saw them in Serbia,
00:56:48
Speaker 2: we saw them in Japan and Korea, and even in
00:56:51
Speaker 2: groups you wouldn't expect. I remember a religious service in
00:56:54
Speaker 2: Charlie's honor was at a I'm not sure what they
00:56:57
Speaker 2: call it, but like a Sikh temple, they had a service.
00:57:00
Speaker 4: I heard stories out of Iran, believe it or not,
00:57:03
Speaker 4: of like missionaries in Iran. These Iranian kids are getting converted,
00:57:08
Speaker 4: and when Charlie was killed, they were just filled with
00:57:11
Speaker 4: the Holy Spirit and they went out proclaiming the Gospel.
00:57:13
Speaker 4: And they said, if Charlie was courageous enough to do this,
00:57:15
Speaker 4: you know, we want to be courageous like Charlie.
00:57:18
Speaker 14: I just say, I've never seen that many people be
00:57:20
Speaker 14: silent before too. During the tribute footage. I mean, it
00:57:23
Speaker 14: was really something. I do believe God was honored in that.
00:57:28
Speaker 14: I know it, I know it.
00:57:30
Speaker 6: It's this.
00:57:31
Speaker 4: One of our friends said, the Holy Spirit was humming
00:57:33
Speaker 4: like a tuning folk in that memorial.
00:57:37
Speaker 6: Why don't we play the song?
00:57:40
Speaker 4: And uh, this is tell us the name and and
00:57:44
Speaker 4: all of that.
00:57:45
Speaker 14: Yeah, the name of the song is called the Voice
00:57:47
Speaker 14: of the Age. You can find it on iTunes if
00:57:50
Speaker 14: you enjoy it, and it is a tribute to Charlie crew.
00:58:06
Speaker 16: I don't have a song today. I can't seem to
00:58:13
Speaker 16: find the right words to say. I remember time when.
00:58:23
Speaker 15: Freedom we rad.
00:58:28
Speaker 16: I'm talking to Anne ready to say now we lost
00:58:44
Speaker 16: the voice of the A gotten down and immers rage.
00:58:53
Speaker 15: I don't want a civil war. No, only God knows.
00:59:00
Speaker 15: That's what it's for, though, Gonna says name Jolly Kirk
00:59:10
Speaker 15: dda mar not babe. Mm hmm. Now, Lord, bring revival
00:59:26
Speaker 15: to the man.
00:59:29
Speaker 16: Christ is Lord on the lips of every woman, man,
00:59:34
Speaker 16: widow Christ out, I forgive you now, man, let's go free.
00:59:45
Speaker 15: Gonna say his name, Charlie Kirk dieda mar not bad.
01:00:06
Speaker 11: Gonna says.
01:00:11
Speaker 15: Jolly Kirk.
01:00:13
Speaker 11: Nothing, Gunna says.
01:00:33
Speaker 15: Jolly Kirk.
01:00:34
Speaker 16: Got more.
01:00:45
Speaker 4: Excellent. Yeah, that's that chorus, Man, Charlie Kirk died a
01:00:53
Speaker 4: mart or, not in vain.
01:00:55
Speaker 6: Amen.
01:00:57
Speaker 4: I wish he was here with us, but only God knows. Right. Yeah,
01:01:05
Speaker 4: that was beautiful, man, Thank you so much. We played
01:01:11
Speaker 4: some of the clips that you put together. Studio did
01:01:15
Speaker 4: a great job actually syncing it up. With your your lyrics,
01:01:17
Speaker 4: A good job studio.
01:01:20
Speaker 2: What is.
01:01:22
Speaker 4: What has it been like writing this song and the
01:01:24
Speaker 4: reaction from people, and you know, in a bigger question,
01:01:27
Speaker 4: what does Charlie sort of mean? Do you think as
01:01:31
Speaker 4: you've toured this song around and you've seen people's reaction.
01:01:34
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a great question.
01:01:37
Speaker 15: Yeah, Charlie.
01:01:38
Speaker 14: I mean he was obviously so gifted and intelligent and
01:01:44
Speaker 14: charismatic and all these things, but I really think the
01:01:46
Speaker 14: biggest thing about him was his courage. And I think
01:01:49
Speaker 14: that that's what resonates with people. It's certainly what resonated
01:01:52
Speaker 14: with me, because I think the thing about courage is
01:01:55
Speaker 14: you don't you don't need to have all those gifted
01:01:59
Speaker 14: You don't need to be gifted like Charlie to have courage.
01:02:00
Speaker 14: You can have The ordinary person can have courage. And
01:02:03
Speaker 14: so to see a Christian man who had courage, the
01:02:07
Speaker 14: courage of his convictions, and I think that's what's residence
01:02:12
Speaker 14: was resonated with me. That's what I think resonating with
01:02:14
Speaker 14: other people with the song.
01:02:16
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:02:17
Speaker 4: He he said he wanted to be remembered for courage
01:02:21
Speaker 4: for his faith, and he always talked about courage and
01:02:23
Speaker 4: said the crazy good thing about courage is that you
01:02:27
Speaker 4: don't need to be skilled to have it.
01:02:29
Speaker 6: It's a choice.
01:02:31
Speaker 14: And I think I ripped him off with Mike quotes.
01:02:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he didn't know it's fair though. I mean
01:02:36
Speaker 4: he would tell that to people. It's like, Okay, you
01:02:37
Speaker 4: don't have a degree. Okay, you don't have any special
01:02:39
Speaker 4: skills at least not yet. Do you have courage? You
01:02:42
Speaker 4: can choose to have courage. And I think like when
01:02:45
Speaker 4: I first met Charlie, that was the thing that stood
01:02:47
Speaker 4: out to me too, was that how boldly he said things.
01:02:51
Speaker 4: He didn't couch things and sort of I think or
01:02:54
Speaker 4: I believe, or you might disagree or what like, he
01:02:57
Speaker 4: just said it.
01:02:58
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think too my self, just self reflection after
01:03:03
Speaker 14: the song. After Charlie died, I had realized, like in
01:03:05
Speaker 14: my own life, I hadn't shown a whole lot of courage,
01:03:07
Speaker 14: and I think when he died something did change within me.
01:03:11
Speaker 14: And I said, you know, because I think if if
01:03:14
Speaker 14: more of us were courageous and speaking the truth, Blie,
01:03:17
Speaker 14: it wouldn't have had to have happened, you know. And
01:03:21
Speaker 14: so I felt partly like, man, that's.
01:03:24
Speaker 4: Deep part of it. Yeah, So that's really I mean,
01:03:28
Speaker 4: that's quite a thing you just said. Yeah, that's an encouragement,
01:03:34
Speaker 4: I guess to me and to blake to all of us,
01:03:36
Speaker 4: to everybody watching listening. If more of us were courageous,
01:03:42
Speaker 4: you know, people like Charlie wouldn't have to live in fear.
01:03:45
Speaker 4: That's some crazy person you know, could do something.
01:03:50
Speaker 2: If all of us were courageous, I don't think the
01:03:53
Speaker 2: entire world couldn't stop. Yeah, the Gospel of the movement.
01:03:59
Speaker 4: We just got a live studio performance from Mike Cavana,
01:04:04
Speaker 4: who just wrote a beautiful tribute song to Charlie Kirk. Mike,
01:04:08
Speaker 4: how long have you been? By the way, it's called
01:04:10
Speaker 4: the Voice of the Age. I want to make sure
01:04:11
Speaker 4: everybody isn't the name go do iTunes by it today?
01:04:14
Speaker 6: We want to chart.
01:04:15
Speaker 4: I wanted to go off the charts and support Mike
01:04:18
Speaker 4: because he's just telling the truth, which is a rarity
01:04:21
Speaker 4: in the art artistry world these days.
01:04:24
Speaker 6: It seems how long you've.
01:04:25
Speaker 4: Been playing music and what's your background and tell us
01:04:27
Speaker 4: a little bit about yourself.
01:04:28
Speaker 14: Yeah, I've been playing music my whole life. My parents
01:04:32
Speaker 14: started me on the piano when I was five. I'm
01:04:35
Speaker 14: from Boston, Massachusetts, originally living in North Carolina now, But yeah,
01:04:40
Speaker 14: I started early. I like most young boys, I was
01:04:43
Speaker 14: more interested in basketball than I was a piano when
01:04:45
Speaker 14: I was younger. But when I was older, I started
01:04:48
Speaker 14: to get into it more and started writing my own stuff.
01:04:51
Speaker 14: And so I've been doing it for a long time.
01:04:53
Speaker 4: Is that your full time gig? And like, are you
01:04:55
Speaker 4: kind of mix and match.
01:04:56
Speaker 14: Or trying to?
01:04:56
Speaker 3: Yeah?
01:04:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so we need to support my he can
01:05:00
Speaker 4: do this full time and write more beautiful music like this. So,
01:05:04
Speaker 4: you know, politics, especially for an artist, it can be tricky,
01:05:10
Speaker 4: obviously when you put your name to something like this
01:05:13
Speaker 4: with Charlie, there are ramifications, right, especially in music because
01:05:18
Speaker 4: you know you've seen it with the America two fifty,
01:05:20
Speaker 4: all the artists dropping out. We should get you to
01:05:22
Speaker 4: go sing a song. We honestly, that's not a terrible idea,
01:05:25
Speaker 4: and he should sing the song at America two fifty.
01:05:28
Speaker 6: We'll put a word in.
01:05:29
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, explain that that dynamic like
01:05:35
Speaker 4: you know it we put on concerts at turning point.
01:05:38
Speaker 4: It's hard, like a lot of artists are scared of that.
01:05:41
Speaker 6: What's it like for you?
01:05:43
Speaker 14: Yeah? Sort of around the time I wrote this song
01:05:49
Speaker 14: is in a four or five month period. There is
01:05:51
Speaker 14: really the when I started experimenting putting my toe on
01:05:54
Speaker 14: the water and writing songs that were about the issues
01:05:57
Speaker 14: of the day more specifically. And it's been sort of
01:06:01
Speaker 14: like this polarization of some people are just like, that's great,
01:06:05
Speaker 14: and then some of the worst hate you can imagine
01:06:08
Speaker 14: as you guys, I'm sure understand. But yeah, I think,
01:06:13
Speaker 14: like you know that Charlie helped push me into that
01:06:18
Speaker 14: because I what I realized is like, nobody cares if
01:06:20
Speaker 14: you're just I mean, as a Christian, like I sing
01:06:22
Speaker 14: about sin, I sing, I use the words sin, I
01:06:25
Speaker 14: use the word and everyone's kind of like, that's great,
01:06:28
Speaker 14: good for you. Once you start naming the actual sins
01:06:32
Speaker 14: of the age, that's when you know it pricks everybody.
01:06:35
Speaker 14: And but in order for the Holy Spirit to convict
01:06:38
Speaker 14: a person, they can't just be understand that there's sin
01:06:42
Speaker 14: in general. You have to understand what the sin is
01:06:44
Speaker 14: in order to turn and be and be saved. So
01:06:47
Speaker 14: I I kind of like that just kind of clicked
01:06:50
Speaker 14: with me somewhat recently. God kind of showed that to
01:06:53
Speaker 14: me and and so, but like all of these issues
01:06:57
Speaker 14: are wrapped up in politics, but they're also all just
01:07:00
Speaker 14: biblical issues. They're not there's not this separate category of politics.
01:07:04
Speaker 14: In this other category is like God's stuff, like God's
01:07:08
Speaker 14: all truth, is God's truth. God cares about all these things,
01:07:11
Speaker 14: and we should be talking about that, and that's what
01:07:13
Speaker 14: you guys do.
01:07:14
Speaker 2: That's I'm glad you said that because that actually it's
01:07:17
Speaker 2: so similar to what Charlie would talk about that you
01:07:21
Speaker 2: can't separate the two because everything relates to the Gospel,
01:07:24
Speaker 2: everything relates to questions of sin and moral righteousness, and
01:07:30
Speaker 2: also I think getting back to courage. That's what made
01:07:34
Speaker 2: Charlie such an icon. He was an icon to young
01:07:36
Speaker 2: people even though he was routinely going on campuses, going
01:07:39
Speaker 2: on TikTok, going on x and saying, here's all these
01:07:43
Speaker 2: things I know all of you love to do. All
01:07:45
Speaker 2: of them are bad. You should stop doing them. You
01:07:47
Speaker 2: should just get married, you should have kids.
01:07:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, no premarital sex, no drugs, no you know, no
01:07:53
Speaker 4: debacher it like we call it licentiousness. Our founders called
01:07:56
Speaker 4: it licentiousness.
01:07:57
Speaker 6: He named it.
01:07:58
Speaker 2: He preached a gospel against this time, and yet he
01:08:02
Speaker 2: was loved by millions of people who many of them
01:08:04
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily follow him, many of them, if they did,
01:08:06
Speaker 2: it very imperfectly so, but they recognized how tremendous he
01:08:11
Speaker 2: was and that he one hundred percent lived what he
01:08:14
Speaker 2: preached him believed.
01:08:15
Speaker 4: We are temples of the Holy Spirit, and we are
01:08:17
Speaker 4: designed to recognize truth when we hear it, it resonates
01:08:21
Speaker 4: in our spirit.
01:08:22
Speaker 14: And music is very powerful for that purpose.
01:08:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Can It's been used for powerfully for the wrong ends
01:08:30
Speaker 4: so much, and I just I when I get to Heaven,
01:08:33
Speaker 4: God willing, I'm going to ask the Lord why music
01:08:37
Speaker 4: has been so bastardized, by incorrupted and used for such
01:08:42
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's because it is so powerful,
01:08:44
Speaker 4: and the enemy of goodness understands the power of music.
01:08:49
Speaker 4: So when somebody chooses to use that art form in
01:08:53
Speaker 4: a powerful way just to sing truth, to speak truth,
01:08:57
Speaker 4: it's it's incredibly powerful. And I think that's ultimately why
01:09:00
Speaker 4: some of the memorial people remember it. It was exposing
01:09:04
Speaker 4: millions of people to actual worship, and it's like prostrated worship.
01:09:10
Speaker 14: It was amazing. Yeah, that event, Yeah, incredible.
01:09:12
Speaker 6: Did you watch it?
01:09:14
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean being in the room. Yeah, And there's
01:09:17
Speaker 4: some some be roll of it. It was profound because
01:09:22
Speaker 4: you know, we all go to not we all, but
01:09:25
Speaker 4: those of us who go to church on Sundays and
01:09:26
Speaker 4: we worship, like sometimes your heads in and sometimes you're not.
01:09:29
Speaker 4: And in this moment, it was like we were all
01:09:31
Speaker 4: so gutted and so traumatized by what had just happened.
01:09:34
Speaker 6: So to be in that room.
01:09:37
Speaker 4: Like the Lord had our full attention, and it really
01:09:42
Speaker 4: truly was a powerful, powerful moment.
01:09:45
Speaker 14: You see so many prominent people and government other places
01:09:49
Speaker 14: get up in the mic and proclaim the Gospel was
01:09:51
Speaker 14: I never thought I would see, even like five or
01:09:54
Speaker 14: six years ago, You'd never thought I would see something
01:09:56
Speaker 14: like that.
01:09:57
Speaker 4: And you could see that they were moved by the
01:09:58
Speaker 4: Holy Spirit as well. Like I've told this story before,
01:10:00
Speaker 4: but you know, jd. Vance, I'm in the I'm backstage.
01:10:03
Speaker 4: I'm watching his speech because they had it. You know,
01:10:05
Speaker 4: it's on the teleprompters, and he ad lived the best
01:10:08
Speaker 4: line out of his speech, which is said, I've talked
01:10:10
Speaker 4: about Jesus Christ more in the last two weeks, and
01:10:12
Speaker 4: I have in my entire political career, by public life.
01:10:15
Speaker 6: And that wasn't on the script.
01:10:16
Speaker 4: He just it came to him and he proclaimed Jesus's
01:10:19
Speaker 4: name loudly and without shame or embarrassment, and that was powerful.
01:10:24
Speaker 6: It was powerful for our nation.
01:10:26
Speaker 4: And one of the reasons I love having you here
01:10:28
Speaker 4: is because there's been some debate about whether the revival
01:10:30
Speaker 4: has been blunted or it's been hijacked, and I say no,
01:10:34
Speaker 4: because I believe what God has unleashed man cannot stop.
01:10:37
Speaker 4: And you are living proof of that, and that this
01:10:40
Speaker 4: song is gaining traction and gaining attention from guys like
01:10:43
Speaker 4: Tommy Robinson in the UK and Real America's voice is
01:10:46
Speaker 4: now getting behind what you're doing as well, and we
01:10:49
Speaker 4: want this thing to chart. So if you want to
01:10:51
Speaker 4: see God's Revival continue, if you want to see Charlie's
01:10:53
Speaker 4: legacy continue to spread and become more and more important,
01:10:58
Speaker 4: back this song, back Mike Cavanaugh and the truth that
01:11:01
Speaker 4: he's singing in it, go to iTunes pick it up.
01:11:05
Speaker 4: The Voice of the Age. I love that title, by
01:11:07
Speaker 4: the way, thanks man.
01:11:09
Speaker 14: It took a while to come up with.
01:11:10
Speaker 6: It's it really it's so apropos for Charlie.
01:11:13
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think so.
01:11:14
Speaker 4: Final thirty seconds to you, Mike, what do you what
01:11:16
Speaker 4: do you want people to take away? From this, and
01:11:19
Speaker 4: what's your encouragement for them?
01:11:20
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean as much as I want to honor
01:11:23
Speaker 14: Charlie and the song, I want to honor our Lord
01:11:26
Speaker 14: and Savior Jesus Christ above all. And so I would
01:11:29
Speaker 14: just want to say, if you don't know the Lord,
01:11:33
Speaker 14: repent of your sins and believe in him and you
01:11:35
Speaker 14: can have eternal salvation, because that really is the message,
01:11:38
Speaker 14: and that is what the truth of everything that Charlie spoke,
01:11:41
Speaker 14: the truth all pointed was going toward that, and I
01:11:45
Speaker 14: was I know what he wanted the most, and that's
01:11:47
Speaker 14: what and that's what I want the.
01:11:48
Speaker 11: Most as well.
01:11:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's not necessarily popular to say, but it's
01:11:51
Speaker 4: the most powerful thing you can say, Repent and be saved,
01:11:55
Speaker 4: turn to Jesus.
01:11:56
Speaker 6: Thank you, Mike, Yeah, thank you guys.
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