A House Democrat Jussie Smollett? + Clancy Copycats

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Lots of problems in the Somali community these days, and we're going to get into it. And then at 1 o'clock, we've got Steve Cortez rejoining the show. We haven't had him on for a while. He's going to be talking about mass migration. He's got a new documentary coming out on it. And then at 1.30, hold on. Who do we have at 1.30? Yeah, good old Peachy. Peachy's the best. Peachy Keenan. She's going to be talking about, are we seeing a rise in copycats with Lindsay Clancy? What to make of the Cornell 7 and much more. So lots to get to today. And we want to cover some breaking news. This is a new story. First, I'm going to ask the audience. Freedom at CharlieKirk.com. Send us an email. Now, I'm not saying the story we're about to share with you is a hoax. But I am asking... What is the most egregious hoax that you can remember? 00:02:35 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:02:36 Speaker 3: What is, is it Jussie Smollett? Is it Al Sharpton, the race baiter? What? 00:02:42 Speaker 4: UVA, a rape on campus. 00:02:44 Speaker 3: Is it, we could even add, I'm even comfortable adding the Cornell 7 at this point. I think that's a total hoax. What else? 00:02:52 Speaker 4: So, I mean, there's so many. Tawana Brawley, that's the original Sharpton one. A lot of hate crime. 00:02:57 Speaker 3: Hoaxes out there. So let me give you, just let me paint the picture for you here. And then Blake is going to go through the details. So this was from the Phoenix New Times, but now it's been covered by the New York Times, The Hill. I think I saw BBC covering it. Mark Kelly has gone public with it. 00:03:14 Speaker 4: Ruben Gallego, 1.2 million views on his tweet about it. 00:03:18 Speaker 3: There it is. Congressional candidate is raped while repairing her campaign signs in Arizona's 8th district congressional district. Now, this is the candidate. who is up against Abe Homaday, friend of the show, Bernadette Green Placentia. Now, let me say out front, if what she's claiming happened to her happened, it's horrible. And she deserves your sympathy in all of that. But upon a deeper reading, there are some serious questions that need to be asked. So, Blake, why don't you walk us through the alleged details? 00:03:54 Speaker 4: Let's dive right into it. So that headline that's in the Phoenix New Times, an alternative paper here in Arizona. 00:03:59 Speaker 3: A very far left paper. 00:04:00 Speaker 4: Local congressional race, tilting pretty Republican, but still close enough to be competitive. I think if they think they're going to get a blue wave here, they might try to get a win here. And she's saying that just after 2 a.m. on a pitch black Friday morning, so like 2 a.m., Green Placentia, she says she was out repairing her signs because people would deface or damage them. She had to replace them. And she says she suddenly bashed from behind on the head. She says she blacked out and she woke up to an unknown man on top of her sexually assaulting her. And she says she doesn't really remember most of the details except she believes she heard him mumble that she was a ick. B-word, so like democratic. 00:04:44 Speaker 3: She filled in the blanks. 00:04:45 Speaker 4: Democratic B-word. And said something about her not being a very good sex partner. And then there's another man there who also participates in the assault. So this is two men assaulting her. And then they complete the assault. They leave. And then she says she got up. She doesn't remember how she got home, but she gets home. Basically, they describe her having a two-day blackout. She doesn't correspond with her campaign chief, her staff. She apparently blows off a campaign event. She does talk to her husband a couple times by phone. They live separately because they have a home outside the district and she has an apartment in the district due to redistricting lines. And then she says she told her staff after two days. She told police after two weeks. She says she went to the Maricopa Sheriff's Office. And then this went public. This all happened in August. It's going public now as it happens the day that early voting ballots are going out in Arizona. And she says she did this because she had to show that she would fight for women in Arizona, and she felt shame, but she's bravely stepping up. But I will be honest, this both stood out to you, Andrew, and to me, this raises a lot of eyebrows. So because she waited two weeks to report this, it means she never went to the hospital. 00:06:03 Speaker 3: She washed her clothes. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: She washed her clothing. She never received a sexual assault kit test that could have gotten DNA evidence of these attackers. She doesn't remember where it happened. She has a street intersection, but it's only in that area, in the Sun City, maybe Surprise area. 00:06:20 Speaker 3: This is Northwest Phoenix. She likely got a concussion, which would be her third concussion. 00:06:25 Speaker 4: Her third concussion. So she would have evidence of having been concussed before. 00:06:28 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: And. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: She just doesn't remember. 00:06:32 Speaker 3: Where it was. She says she was covered in bruises and even fingertip bruises. My question is obvious. Does she have any pictures of the bruises on her head where she got hit? Does she have pictures of the bruises on her body? Any sort of details that would be relevant to understanding the veracity of the claims. 00:06:53 Speaker 4: And then even the headline is like, Even the story in the New Times, which is sympathetic, they say this happened. They state it all not as an allegation but as fact. But there's a lot of weird things about this. So, for example, the only person who sees Green Placentia in that two-day window after is her landlord. And what her landlord says is this landlord saw her outside her apartment and approached her out of concern because, quote, she looked like she was going to fall over. Now, yes, you could be maimed so badly in an attack that you would be unsteady on your feet in pain. But, Andrew, I think you and I can imagine other situations where a person would look unsteady on their feet. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: Well, and that's the question. Listen, again, I just want to reiterate, obviously, if this proves out, the facts bear out that this happened, our heart would go out. 100%. 100%. 00:07:49 Speaker 4: 100%. 00:07:50 Speaker 3: But the question, there's just too much fishiness going on here. 00:07:53 Speaker 4: And we've been through this before. 00:07:54 Speaker 3: And this is on the backdrop of the Cornell 7 case where you're having protests, mass protests at Cornell. They're even floating banning Greek. 00:08:04 Speaker 4: Life at Cornell. Like nationwide sometimes. 00:08:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, the New York Times is having a whole discussion about is it time to ban Greek life, right? So this is all the backdrop. Now, and again, I want you to go back in your mind. Jussie Smollett. This is MAGA country. Okay? None of this made any sense. Now, in this one, she alleges that the assailant is saying Democratic B-word. 00:08:33 Speaker 4: And it's the only detail she really remembers. 00:08:35 Speaker 3: It's the only detail she remembers. Okay. So, first thought that I had, and Blake had the same thought, was conservatives don't call Democratic... They don't use Democratic. We use Democrat. 00:08:45 Speaker 4: Because the name is the Democratic Party. But normal people and people who don't like them, they say he would say a Democrat B word. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: Yes. And that's a weird little detail. Pictures of the bruises. She washes her clothes. So no DNA, no rape kit, rape kit. So no DNA. She doesn't announce it to cops at all. Now, here's what I actually am very sure of that. She something happened. I'm very sure something happened, actually. 00:09:10 Speaker 4: But what? 00:09:11 Speaker 3: But what? Did she have a rough night? Did something else happen? 00:09:15 Speaker 4: But here's the most important thing that is happening, is that Ruben Gallego is tweeting out about this, who has this bad history with women, and he's coming out to say, like, I am heartbroken by this news. I am thinking of her. Thank you for speaking out. We're with you. They are ready to make political hay out of an unproven allegation. 00:09:34 Speaker 3: We want to get your emails here. Do you believe her story? Does it seem fishy to you? Freedom at CharlieKirk.com. There's a congressional candidate running against Abe Homaday, Arizona's eighth, that claims she was raped while out fixing campaign signs at 2 a.m. on a Friday morning. Two months ago, but only came out now. And it's only coming out now with the ballots come out. By the way, there's no video evidence. No video evidence. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: Might have been erased because she waited two weeks to go to police. So a lot of tapes get taped over. 00:10:04 Speaker 3: There's no images, at least yet, of the bruising. And by the way, if there is bruising, it doesn't mean something didn't happen. But I'm looking at the comments section in the Phoenix New Times. A far left rag in Arizona. I mean, this thing's like the commie rag of Arizona. Very sympathetic write-up. All the comments are like, okay, Jesse, where's the MAGA hat? Things that didn't happen for 200 hours. Sounds like you are all pretty similar. 00:10:29 Speaker 4: We just got this. Julie, I call BS. She either made it up or had the best night of her life. Either way, why did she wait for two months? Uh, Diana says if she was too stupid to go to ER and do a rape kit, she's too dumb to be in Congress. 00:10:42 Speaker 3: That's that's candidly. That was the point I made to Blake on the phone this morning. 00:10:46 Speaker 4: Like it is, if this really happens, you have an obligation, go to the police, get checked. And is that challenging? Yes, but it is a moral obligation. You have, if this really happened. 00:10:56 Speaker 3: It's, it's so cinematic the way that she paints it, like perhaps too cinematic. And the fact that conveniently, uh, There's zero way to check any of this. The video surveillance is probably erased. 00:11:08 Speaker 4: Philip brings up something relevant. He says they need to get her phone and ping where was she on that night because that's probably phone data. It would greatly strengthen her story if she really was in that area when this happened. 00:11:19 Speaker 3: She probably was in that area. She probably had something happen that night. 00:11:26 Speaker 4: Who knows? 00:11:26 Speaker 3: Who knows what it could be? 00:11:27 Speaker 4: Uh, and then, uh, Ooh, this is interesting. Uh, Chrissy says, do you remember the Sherry Papini hoax? A movie was made about it. She claimed to have been kidnapped and then returned home. I don't remember this. Was that like the runaway bride? I know that was like a weird hoax. Someone claimed she was kidnapped by a man and she was actually just running away. I'm not sure if that's that story though. 00:11:48 Speaker 3: Uh, and yes, I do remember this. 00:11:50 Speaker 4: She, the one, does she have really big bug eyes? 00:11:52 Speaker 3: Yes, she is. Blonde gal. 00:11:54 Speaker 4: I remember this now. 00:11:55 Speaker 3: Disappeared November 2nd, 2016, reportedly while out jogging a mile from her home in Redding, California. Pepini was 34 years old at the time. She reappeared three weeks later on Thanksgiving Day, having been reportedly freed from her captors. Yeah, anyways, it garnered significant media attention. 00:12:12 Speaker 4: And so we bring this up. Obviously, it's right here in Phoenix, so we want to talk about what's happening here in Arizona. This is our turf. But It fits into a wider pattern, Andrew, that I think you can tell a lot of Democrat outlets have gotten a little. 00:12:27 Speaker 3: By the way, she was reportedly staying with a former boyfriend. Oh. It was the actual truth there. Okay. 00:12:35 Speaker 4: So it fits into a pattern here that I think even Democrats are starting to realize this a bit. The New York Times has written this up. They have not gotten nearly as bold and aggressive as I think they often would. They say Democrat. 00:12:47 Speaker 3: Democrat. 00:12:48 Speaker 4: This allegedly happened to it's a pretty short write up for the amount of resources they have. 00:12:52 Speaker 3: Right. 00:12:53 Speaker 4: But nevertheless, this is still something that's useful to the left. They create this these narratives. Oh, it would totally make sense for two white men in this Republican suburb of Arizona to group assault. a woman because she's a Democrat out at night, and then they'll write up these allegations, and if they prove false, or the most likely outcome here is police are going to say, we have no medical evidence, no DNA evidence, no video evidence, we don't know where it is, we have no leads, and they'll just have to drop it because there's no leads. And so, a very likely hoax, something that almost certainly has no backing to it, will just be allowed to float out there, affect people in the ether. They know most people will only hear the first story, not any of the follow-up, and it'll help them. It'll entrench this idea in people's heads. 00:13:39 Speaker 3: It feels like a Hail Mary. And listen, again, if anything really did happen, our heart goes out to her. But at this point, I'm sorry, you're going to have to prove it. This believe all women garbage, when you're running for office, none of these details make any sense at all. And you're going to have to prove it. And we got the Cornell case also happening, which I'm going to call a hoax because that girl was absolutely consensual. And we got to stop treating women like little children. I'm sorry, women. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: You're an adult with the equal rights of citizenship. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: You have agency. The responsibility is yours to not take drugs, to not get drunk, to not go be out at 2 a.m. alone on a street if that's really what happened. Whatever happened. Your husband was worried about you, felt a little hurt feelings because you didn't come see him for two days, living in your apartment. Here's the deal. We think back to the Jussie Smollett hoax. MAGA country. You're playing too much into a stereotype, and when that happens, the red flags go off, okay? The SBLC couldn't find enough white supremacy, so they started concocting it. They started paying for it. They started ginning up White supremacy so they could raise money off of it because it was a real good business model. There are too many hoaxes like this now for us to simply accept it at face value. And that is the key. It must be very nice to be a Democrat, to be Ruben Gallego, to be Mark Kelly right now, to just run in, swoop in, virtue signal on an alleged rape of two white males in Arizona's 8th. Virtue signal on it. say all the right things, gin up sympathy, and then when this story conveniently goes away, you just get patted on the back for having your heart in the right place. Defend all women. I'm sorry. Life's more complicated than that. And here's the deal. These things could have real political implications. Abe Hamadeh, by all accounts, is up. VoteHub has him at basically... 90% certainty to win this race. Who knows? Are those odds about to change because she's successfully ginned up enough sympathy for herself with this story without any facts or evidence or details or bruise marks or video evidence? Story comes out conveniently the day ballots drop in Arizona? 00:16:03 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:16:05 Speaker 4: It comes out the day ballots drop. That means people could hear this, get outraged, vote, and then if it's exposed as a hoax, can't unvote. 00:16:12 Speaker 3: Can't unvote. Can you imagine if it gets... Imagine. This works. She miraculously, I mean, we've got headwinds. She ekes it out, 150 votes. Yeah, she ekes it out, and then it comes out that it's a giant hoax, that her phone was nowhere where she said she was, that video surveillance evidence does come out. She's nowhere where she said she was. 00:16:30 Speaker 4: And we might have a one-seat majority in the House either way at the end of this. 00:16:34 Speaker 3: With a hoaxer. 00:16:34 Speaker 4: Can you imagine? Can you imagine the Democrats are just going to say, well, we're not giving up the House majority. Eat your hoaxer. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: And guess what? The Democrats are not going to be very motivated to discipline them. Said liar, hoaxer, if that ends up being the case. Why would they? 00:16:47 Speaker 4: The thing is, is that the hoax industry for Democrats has produced enormous dividends. I mean, look at this Cornell thing as an example. Even though it seems very clear this is not what is alleged by Jane Doe. Despite that, we get them talking, oh, well, you know, this is highlighting the national problem regardless. So should we ban all Greek life nationwide? They will routinely do where there will be a hate crime hoax on a campus and it will result in more money for left-wing causes, more money for left-wing groups, more policy changes that they demand. And even if it's exposed as a hoax, they'll put out this pablum like, oh, well, the fact that people got so agitated about this shows that The fact that this was plausible, that it could have happened, shows that we live in a climate of hate and oppression and fear and blah, blah, blah. They love to use real stories to push their agenda, but they're perfectly happy to use fake stories to push it as well. 00:17:40 Speaker 3: It's just too much. Two white men out in the middle of the night at some freeway or some intersection, rather. Listen, if it turns out to be true, we'll say it. 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But obviously the big breaking news yesterday was that this gentleman, Sheikh Dun Muhammad, who is an American-born Somali, 18 years old, the FBI foiled a terror plot where he was going to take an AK-47... into the Mall of America and trying kill dozens and dozens of non-Muslims, which I don't know if you've seen video of the Mall of America lately, might be actually more challenging than he was anticipating. Liz, what do we know about this story? What are the details? Because it just seems like the latest in a long list of, I don't know, Somali issues in that state. 00:20:10 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right. We could be talking for quite a while today, you guys. Good to see you again. Thanks for having me on. 00:20:15 Speaker 8: But yes, Sheikh Dun Muhammad, this is a pretty detailed criminal complaint about his plans, now charged with plotting a mass casualty attack at Mall of America. It was supposed to happen later this month in October. And he says it was in support of ISIS. Very disturbing criminal complaint that details, in his words, he wanted to kill. 00:20:35 Speaker 7: 30 to 60 people. 00:20:37 Speaker 8: He thought that would happen at the mall. 00:20:40 Speaker 7: Obviously, pretty interesting to hear. 00:20:41 Speaker 8: Muhammad was someone who's been on the radar for quite some time. In fact, FBI agents even tried to speak with his parents. That was back in 2025 last year. But according to the charges, they were not cooperative. His parents were not cooperative at the time. And there were hundreds, hundreds of social media messages dating back a couple of years ago. that the special agent in charge of the FBI here, he called them chilling and said that Muhammad showed a callous disregard to the sanctity of human life. Muhammad said in those social media messages that he could not afford to go back to Somalia. He wanted to fight with ISIS. So he said instead he would do that here. He would carry out an attack here and do it for Allah. Again, all of that detailed in the criminal complaint. 00:21:26 Speaker 7: So this all comes to a head. 00:21:27 Speaker 8: An informant sells him an AK-47 assault rifle that was sold to him inoperable on Tuesday. And then he was arrested right after that transaction at a park in Richfield. That is a suburb right outside of Minneapolis, according to those charges. 00:21:45 Speaker 7: But really, you guys, this is nothing new. 00:21:47 Speaker 8: We've done so many stories on this radicalization, sadly, that has happened in Minnesota recently. Decade ago now, when federal prosecutors brought terrorism charges against nine Somali-American young men from Minnesota, they were attempting to travel to join ISIS back in Somalia back then. 00:22:06 Speaker 3: So what's really interesting about this is obviously you had the Nick Shirley thing. By the way, you'd been covering that at Alpha News a long time. He helped popularize it and make it injected into the zeitgeist. But then you had You had all this gang violence that just erupted on the streets. So this is a video of Police Chief Booker Hodges. I want to play it for you, and maybe you could add some more detail to this. Because he says that they're different. This is not the 80s or 90s gangs of the past. These kids have money. It's not seven. 00:22:38 Speaker 9: They're coming from two-parent homes, living in apartment buildings with $ 3, 500 a month rent, driving Beamers and Mercedes and all these luxury cars. They're When you hit their house, they're not dealing with money. There's no drugs in the house. They're purchasing legal firearms. So this is not the 1980s, 1990s, 2000 gangs. These kids are different. These kids have come from good homes and they have money. They're living in houses that cost more than my mortgage. So they're out here simply shooting each other based on social media beef. 00:23:23 Speaker 3: Period. 00:23:24 Speaker 1: That's it. 00:23:25 Speaker 3: All right. So what's going on? 00:23:31 Speaker 4: We've come a long way from that old 1970 time headline, the good life in Minnesota. What has unfolded in Minneapolis for the people who don't live there and only see the news stories? 00:23:41 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the question I seem to always get asked. And I wish I had a good answer, but so much of it has played out, frankly, on the national stage. But this Somali connection really cannot be ignored. But instead, you have the mainstream media in Minnesota. They are a big part of the problem here. They would rather focus on how to go about even calling this Somali gang violence. They're referring to this now as group violence in the Twin Cities. But you guys, just in the last 10 days, let me detail this for you. So we have a A Somali gang shooting on a busy highway outside a suburban football game. Another one happens outside a gas station in another suburb. And in another city, they find 100 evidence markers are located with bullets next to them. This all happens, again, less than 10 days we're talking about here. And this Somali gang problem has been ongoing for months and months now. In fact, there's now a call to have a regional approach to this, because what's interesting is all of this violence, for the most part, I will say, is happening in Hennepin County. Guess who's the Hennepin County attorney there? Well, that's Mary Moriarty, perhaps a name that sounds familiar to your audience. But she's been clear she does not want to charge kids. Many of these are kids under the age of 18. And Minneapolis cops, for that matter, are essentially handcuffed. She'd rather go after them than the criminals. 00:24:59 Speaker 4: One thing I'm wondering, Liz, and maybe you're not sure on this, but so we hear these Somali gangs, Somali gang violence. We've seen gang violence in U.S. cities before. Is there anything distinguishing, special, unusual about that? Somali gangs versus tradition? You know, if you've heard of the Crips or Bloods or Latin Kings, does anything set them apart or is it just that they're they are assimilating to the extent they just join America's gang violence problem? 00:25:24 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:25:24 Speaker 8: In fact, I just interviewed a gang expert of more than 30 years. He's the vice president of the Midwest Gang Investigators just this morning. And he said, here's here's what's different. You have this radicalization element of. these threats law enforcement can see online. So much of this does play out online. Also, their access to guns, that's different. Some of these guns are even printed on 3D printers in their homes. So that can be hard to get control of. And I will just say, there's been some press conferences recently with the Somali community saying this is an American problem, not a Somali problem. But you also have the Bloomington police chief who's saying, you know, this is different. 00:26:06 Speaker 7: They're driving fancy cars. We've seen this for ourself as well. 00:26:09 Speaker 8: And you also have this statistic that can't be ignored here. 90 percent of Somali families in the state of Minnesota are on welfare. 00:26:17 Speaker 7: Those are the facts. 00:26:18 Speaker 8: And 90 percent of the people who have been charged in this widespread fraud and so many Medicaid programs, other fraud schemes we've seen, 90 percent of those defendants are Somali. And this is a population a little more than 100,000 in the state of Minnesota. And this Somali gang violence isn't just in the cities, you guys. This was out in Wilmer, which is a couple hours away from the cities. They had a Somali gang shooting just a couple of weeks ago outside their fairgrounds. 00:26:47 Speaker 7: So this is statewide. 00:26:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost smacks of, you know, when you hear the police chief, Booker, talking about how they have money and they're in these, you know, big mortgage. 00:26:57 Speaker 4: Think of something that happened a year ago. 00:26:59 Speaker 3: And, yeah, it just feels like, you know, we're paying for these lavish lifestyles of these gangbangers, these kids. And here's where it gets really insulting, Liz. And we pulled these clips this morning. The Somali community is now holding press conferences and they're blaming– Us, Americans. Sat 6. 00:27:21 Speaker 11: We strongly condemn gun violence and youth violence. We recognize that Somali American youth were involved. And those responsible must be held accountable. But those are also American youth, born and raised all here, educated here, and grew up in our communities. This is not simply a Somali problem. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: Oh, it's an American problem. I see. Another clip here that's just infuriating. We'll play it and get your reaction. Sat 12. 00:27:53 Speaker 10: We came to America, we are a citizen, and so much is expected from us. Sometimes I feel in our community we had too much, we worked very hard, and we really did not give enough attention to our kids. I do believe that because we always tell, well, we have to work hard, we have to do this. And our kids really maybe somehow, somewhere, they have really, you know, they just. 00:28:19 Speaker 10: So I just wanted to say that. Thank you all. And I really wanted to thank everyone who really see us as a contributing member. 00:28:30 Speaker 4: Of the community. 00:28:31 Speaker 3: So Liz, is it just because they're working too hard? 00:28:33 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the one that got us over at Alpha News. 00:28:36 Speaker 8: We thought it was interesting how the mainstream media here, no one brought up the statistic that 90% of the Somali families in Minnesota are on welfare. They avoid that altogether. I grew up with a very hardworking family as well, and I wasn't out joining gangs. as a Minnesota kid myself. So it was interesting to hear how they were trying to spin this in that press conference. 00:28:57 Speaker 7: And the media ran with it. 00:29:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course they did. Throw this one up. 157. This is from Alpha News. State says alleged Somali gang members have graciously, I'm adding the graciously, have graciously agreed to stay away from Minnesota state fair. 00:29:12 Speaker 4: Oh, thank goodness. 00:29:13 Speaker 3: So am I reading this right? That State officials are negotiating with Somali gangs rather than arresting them? 00:29:21 Speaker 7: Well, this is what it's come to, you guys. 00:29:23 Speaker 8: You had Ramsey County. They actually sued these gang members. They said, hey, stay away from the state fair. That seemed to work. They went to Hennepin County to commit their crimes where they usually are at this point. Ramsey County has taken a more proactive approach probably than any other county in the state. 00:29:39 Speaker 7: They're leading the charge. 00:29:40 Speaker 8: Now to say, hey, we need a regional task force to fix this. But yes, that is in fact what happened this summer, going to the great lengths of actually working with the county attorney in Ramsey County to keep these gang members from the fair. There have been some high-profile shootings in on the state fairgrounds in years past. 00:30:01 Speaker 7: So just to give your audience, I think, a little bit more of a perspective. 00:30:04 Speaker 8: Here, this is about a dozen Somali gangs that law enforcement, they've identified in Minnesota, about 100 members, and they're responsible for 14 murders in the last couple of years. hundreds of shootings in that time, just the last couple of years. So we've seen the documentation on all of this. And again, months ago, the warning went out to other areas in the Metro to say, hey, you guys better come together. 00:30:29 Speaker 7: We better figure this out. 00:30:31 Speaker 8: And here we are months later, nothing seemed to really be going on in those many months. And now all of a sudden, you know, you go to Edina and there's a shooting and the people with money are not happy, I will say, in Minnesota and they're demanding action. 00:30:46 Speaker 3: This is all very interesting. So I was talking with somebody that was actually on the ground in Minnesota covering the Michelle Tafoya race, a great reporter. And he basically was like, Minnesota feels different. And I said, well, how so? Because we hear about the polling and we debate whether it's suppression polling or whatever. He said, on the ground, I can feel it. that this is a real race between Michelle Tafoya and this Flanagan character who's not a strong candidate, very far left. Give me a sense of the feeling on the ground in Minnesota when you talk to people. It feels like Minnesota's always been this sort of great white whale up in the north, like we get close two, three points. 00:31:28 Speaker 4: Every time we come like one or two points short. 00:31:30 Speaker 3: But it feels like it's just never going to really happen because it's Minnesota. Are things changing? Is the sentiment changing on the ground? Are people starting to get fed up, Liz? 00:31:40 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we actually hear from folks all the time over at Alpha News. We receive a lot of our news tips from Democrats. That didn't happen before. But they are fed up with so much of this and the way the media portrays much of it, burying the lead in many circumstances here in the state. I will say very much law and order on the ballot this November. 00:32:03 Speaker 7: And actually, interesting, this morning we were just taking a look. 00:32:05 Speaker 8: Amy Klobuchar, again, running for Walz's position as governor now against Lisa Damoth. But Klobuchar doesn't even have anything on her website, any sort of public safety plan on her website at all. She's basically been ignoring this issue. And remember, Peggy Flanagan, now running for that Senate seat, she is the current lieutenant governor of Minnesota. So very much responsible for what has been allowed to play out here. So I do think law and order is a very big issue all across the state come November. 00:32:41 Speaker 3: But also the fraud, right? I mean, you know, I know that's part of law and order, but it just feels like there's a whole political apparatus in that state that would rather essentially bribe a voting bloc to keep getting along, to go along. And it seems like nobody's really going to do anything about it. I'm just wondering, could that end up manifesting in A political change, a sea change in Minnesota. 00:33:07 Speaker 4: It just feels like Minnesota is the cutting edge of a state that it was progressive, but it was wealthy. It was well run. It was functional. The Democrats, for lack of a better term, like it did seem like they maybe earned some public support, but they have thrown this state away and everyone feels that sense of decline. 00:33:23 Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely. 00:33:24 Speaker 8: I mean, when you talk nine billion dollars in fraud, you know, like likely more. You know, do see the headlines about plummeting crime elsewhere. They're kind of cooking the books here in Minnesota, I will say, to hide some of that that here. I mean, it's pretty easy to see how these Democratic policies have led to the decline in the state and actually quite quickly. I mean, we're talking, you know, seven, eight years under under walls, a lot of damage done. has been done, and it does seem that there are Democrats willing to cross over. I mean, I've spoken to them personally, some of them myself. Maybe they're not going to tell their friends they're doing so. But you also see some of these Republican candidates try to, you know, go more to the middle of the issues because there are so many issues that it seems really should be bipartisan. Public safety, you know, cracking down on fraud, just being a couple of them. 00:34:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's really... Minnesota is an example of, it's almost like France and Minnesota are running parallel tracks, because you guys imported your own problems. It's a demographic problem. I don't know if you can say that, Liz, I'm not expecting you to, but that's what it is. You imported a third world culture that is fleecing the system. They have a country that is, let's just say it's not a great country. And you can't expect people that come from a fraudulent I would say, it's not a fraudulent country, but it's a country that is not run well. It's a failed state. Very corrupt. It's a very corrupt country. 00:34:55 Speaker 4: Not just a failed, but it's a backwards one. It's a tribal society. It is one that has basically been taken out of the Middle Ages and handed modern technology, modern wealth, but it didn't go through that process of creating modern civilization that we talked about, that they went through in Europe, for example, to create America. 00:35:16 Speaker 2: Right. 00:35:17 Speaker 3: Well, and so that's the real problem. And I don't know that this is the problem with Democrats. Even a moderate Democrat is never going to address that problem. They're never going to get to the root of it. And I'm just hopeful, Liz, I guess that's where we can end this. I'm just hopeful that maybe that Minnesota can be a standout. And we might have this weird map this year where we have places like Maine electing Susan Collins, a Republican. We might have, you know, Minnesota, New Hampshire, kind of a weird inverted map. 00:35:44 Speaker 4: Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, and then lose North Carolina. 00:35:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a weird map. But final thoughts to you, Liz. 00:35:51 Speaker 8: You know, I think it was quite telling hearing from Booker Hodges, the Bloomington police chief yesterday. He said just that he was kind of at a loss for words over all of this. And he said, it's just sad that there is such a hatred for this country. that kids are being taught and specifically in, in Minnesota. And that's what he had to say about these horrible charges. But also I think that applies to what we're seeing with the Somali gang violence problem as well. He said, this is, you know, the greatest country on earth. And we need to start telling our kids that instead of the opposite. 00:36:24 Speaker 3: Good for him. Good for him. Liz calling everybody, check out alpha news. She does a great job there. one of the best reporters in the country, in my opinion, Liz. 00:36:33 Speaker 4: I'm so grateful for Alpha News because Minnesota is one of the most important states in the country in terms of showing what the left is doing, what the results of its policies are. And it's a lib-leaning state. But we have a great conservative news source to make sure we get the truth about it. 00:36:48 Speaker 3: And Michelle Tafoya, back her campaign. It's a real shot. It's a real shot. I'm not getting my hopes up, but it's a real shot. Liz, great to see you. Talk to you soon. And until next time. If you're looking at your investment portfolio and feeling pretty smart right now, remember a bull market can make anyone look like a genius. If you've had a good run, the question is whether you keep it. The people who act early do it from a position of strength. The ones who wait act out of fear. 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They're using socialism as a Trojan horse to create an Islamic state. 00:38:19 Speaker 1: That is the goal. 00:38:21 Speaker 12: Socialism is merely the Trojan horse. 00:38:24 Speaker 1: America, pay attention. 00:38:31 Speaker 3: All right, that's a new documentary by our friend Steve Cortez, who joins the show now. Welcome back, Steve. It's good to see you. This is an important project. You know, everybody check in. Former Trump advisor and co-founder, Cortez investigates dot com. That's the Web site. So everybody check it out there. See why. You know, we just covered the FBI foiled terror plot in. 00:38:56 Speaker 4: Guy going to take some little Somalia take Minnesota. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: His name. 00:39:00 Speaker 4: What was it? 00:39:01 Speaker 3: It was Muhammad something. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: Abdullah. She could do it. 00:39:05 Speaker 3: She could. 00:39:06 Speaker 12: Yes. 00:39:07 Speaker 3: So we go from one. Muslim-filled upper Midwest state to the next. And you focus on Michigan. So tell us about why you focused on Michigan and why you did this project, Steve. 00:39:16 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:39:17 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. This is such an important work, and not just because I made it, but it's important for this country. I went to Dearborn, Michigan, because that is the city in America that has been most overtaken by mass Muslim migration to this country. Dearborn, Michigan, if people know it historically, they mostly know it through Ford Motor Company. I mean, this is really the heart of America, especially industrial America. Well, it is now a place that is unrecognizable, I think, to most Americans. Nearly every sign in town is in Arabic. There are women walking around everywhere with the full-on Muslim dress, the hijabs, including, you know, even covering their faces and eyes. There are at least three very large mosques that do public prayer calls throughout the city. The police force is totally Islamic, and they have de facto Sharia law in Dearborn, Michigan. And of course, they're now trying to elect one of their own, Abdul El-Sayed, to the United States Senate. And by all credible polling, including my own polling, it is a very tight race right now. So I think this issue could be determinative in that race. And I'm trying to raise the warning for the good citizens of Michigan and all over America that Islam is not compatible. It is simply not compatible with Western civilization, with our way of life, and electing somebody a radical, anti-American, pro-Muslim brotherhood extremist like Al-Sayed would be ruinous for this country. 00:40:37 Speaker 3: Well, this is really interesting. Al-Sayed, I just found out because of an interview that Mike Rogers, his Republican opponent, obviously did, that he not only grew up spending his summers in Egypt, he refused to condemn the Ayatollah, he refuses to condemn the Muslim Brotherhood or CARE, And he equated Sharia law to canon law, which is pretty interesting. He's best buddies with Hassan Piker, who's Turkish, and is a total political goblin who celebrates political murder and assassination culture, mocked Charlie's death, so much more. But he also has a luxury property, Steve, in the United Arab Emirates. And then there's this clip voting that he was a dual citizen, and it's like, I never said that. Oh, well, you did say it. We have the clip. I mean, this guy is a complete fraudster. And I love what your interview guest in that first clip said. They use socialism and far-left parties across the West because that's the vehicle through which they can transmit into the United States, into Western democracies, because they know the conservatives aren't going to give them hearing. We're on to this. We love Western civilization. But they know that the lefties will let them in. And there's a lot of data here, Steve, and I'm sure you're aware of it, that shows the Very conservative Muslims will latch on to socialist parties in the West because that's the way they get in. 00:42:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right. So there is this red-green alliance. And in many ways, it is a strange alliance, right? Because certainly on social issues, they're not going to agree on very much. But nonetheless, they have the same common enemy. which is Western civilization, which is historic Christianity. That is their common enemy. And so they are willing to put their differences aside for now to form this political alliance, a very toxic political alliance that we see here in the United States. 00:42:24 Speaker 1: You know, I'm right now at Georgetown University, which is my alma mater. And just last night. 00:42:29 Speaker 5: I did a forum here for Al Jazeera with Mehdi Hassan. As you might imagine, he and I don't agree on very much. And Mehdi Hassan tried to claim that there is no such thing as this radical left and Muslim alliance forming in the United States and in other Western countries. 00:42:44 Speaker 1: Well, of course, he's dead wrong on that. 00:42:45 Speaker 5: It's very clear that it is happening here with characters like Mamdani, like Ilhan Omar, and now like Abdul El-Sayed. And I'm making the point, the bigger point, that mass Muslim migration to this country has not been constructive for our society. It is not making us a better, stronger, more cohesive country. 00:43:04 Speaker 1: It just is not. It does not work for us. 00:43:07 Speaker 5: I'm against mass migration from the third world period, by the way, but particularly from Muslim-dominated countries. And one of the main reasons, by the way, and I'm sure you know this and realize this, Andrew, and I'm sure most of your audience does, there's nothing virtuous about tolerating the intolerant. And when we look at Muslims who take their faith seriously, and when we look at Muslim-dominated countries, they do not believe in our values, not at all. And just for starters, they certainly don't believe in free speech. Well, it's impossible for us to have a virtuous and prosperous and free society without the bedrock principle of free speech, which these people do not believe in. But nonetheless, I think we have to take the threat very seriously. Certainly, they have already overtaken some locales, places in Texas. places in Minnesota, as you mentioned, and definitely Dearborn, Michigan, which is why I went there to put a camera on it and to interview very smart people, both locally as well as experts like Larry Taunton, who you showed in that. 00:43:59 Speaker 1: Clip right there. 00:44:00 Speaker 5: Larry Taunton, by the way, is an evangelical who does a fantastic job of exposing Islam. He is a true expert on the Quran, somebody who has studied Islam deeply, who has debated some of the most radical Muslims in the West. And so it was important, I think, for him to come on my show. It's just a 20-minute documentary, by the way. It's not a long investment. So I ask you to please watch it, share it. There's no paywall at all. We just want as many people as possible to see it, especially, of course, in the state of Michigan. I think ultimately we're going to win this race. 00:44:30 Speaker 1: Mike Rogers is going to prevail. And I think mostly. 00:44:32 Speaker 5: Because of this issue, because El-Sayed is just not in any way consistent with the Midwestern values of a place like Michigan. 00:44:41 Speaker 3: How many Muslims are there in Michigan, Steve? 00:44:44 Speaker 5: I don't know numerically, but in percentage terms, it's only 2%. So they're not that significant. However, because they are so well organized and concentrated. 00:44:53 Speaker 3: The state that goes 2% one way or the other. 00:44:56 Speaker 4: And 2% when a group can vote in block ends up mattering a lot. 00:45:01 Speaker 3: A ton. 00:45:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. 00:45:02 Speaker 3: Steve, I want to play another clip from your. 00:45:05 Speaker 5: Al-Sayed would not have won if it were not because he barely won the Democrat primary over Haley Stevens, and he would not have won without such substantial turnout from Dearborn. He was getting literally 94% of the vote in Muslim majority precincts with extremely high turnout. They're very motivated about this. Politics for them, realize Islam, it's more an ideology. 00:45:26 Speaker 1: It's more a. 00:45:27 Speaker 3: Political ideology than it is a religion. 00:45:29 Speaker 5: It blends both to some degree, but it's more of a political movement, and they are very organized. 00:45:34 Speaker 3: Let's play Stop 14. 00:45:36 Speaker 1: Consider Dearborn, Michigan. 00:45:38 Speaker 5: It's the symbolic and geographic heart of America. But what does Al-Sayed really think? 00:45:45 Speaker 1: What does he really think of us? I hate McDonald's so much. Every time I've ever come here, I've hated it. Why am I here? 00:45:53 Speaker 5: But even worse, much worse, he embraces a hateful but influential online star, Hasan Piker. He has a serious following as he spews venom and vitriol. abject hate for this country. 00:46:06 Speaker 4: I don't support the state of Israel, and I don't support the state of the United States of America. 00:46:11 Speaker 3: My favorite flag? Hezbollah. 00:46:13 Speaker 13: We recently filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the city of Dearborn and its mayor, essentially complaining about the discrimination that the city of Dearborn is imposing against Christians and Jews. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the Hassan Piker thing, let me dive into that just really quick. 00:46:32 Speaker 1: Sure. 00:46:33 Speaker 5: Listen, Hassan Piker, unfortunately, does have some influence, but he is one of the most toxic people in American life. 00:46:38 Speaker 1: And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. He's somebody who. 00:46:40 Speaker 5: Truly hates this country, somebody who has exploited this country and become rich off of spreading his venom, but somebody who's very, very dangerous. 00:46:48 Speaker 1: And he is a bestie of Al-Sayed. 00:46:50 Speaker 5: That alone should disqualify him from ever holding public office in this country. So please, please watch my documentary with all of the facts, all of the clips. 00:46:57 Speaker 3: Steve, there's a new poll here that is not an internal poll. And, you know, you're you're an expert at understanding the tea leaves when it comes to the Hispanic vote, especially. But you do everything. I'm not I'm not pigeonholing you here. But let's look at Texas really quick. I mean, the Muslim thing is huge and we've been covering it all show. But you you really do think there has been movement away from the Republican Party from 2024 to 2026 specifically about the economy? But when we think about Texas, you know, fuse those two lines of thinking together for me. How are we doing? The new poll says it's 50-50 right there. It's a jump ball in Texas. Is that how you're seeing things? 00:47:40 Speaker 1: I am. 00:47:41 Speaker 5: And I think most of these states are essentially jump balls. I think they're all very winnable races for us. But clearly the most important leakage from the coalition from 2024 right now is Hispanics. And I'm seeing this in my own polling and I'm seeing it also in what I think is credible polls. 00:47:55 Speaker 1: Public polling out there. 00:47:56 Speaker 5: But here's the big mistake that the establishment Republicans and the corporate media want us to believe. 00:48:00 Speaker 1: They want us to believe that it's about immigration, and it is not. 00:48:03 Speaker 5: Now, I did a national Hispanic poll, just Hispanics, because I wanted to get to this very issue. 00:48:08 Speaker 1: You know, what is angering them? 00:48:09 Speaker 5: Why are we losing the gains that we made magnificent gains in 2024. And I find overwhelmingly it is about the economy. Hispanics are a working class constituency overall that is just demographically who we are, generally not wealthy people. And the inflation simply bites harder. It stings harder for working class people, Hispanic men particularly, because that's where we really made the biggest gains. Of course, President Trump won the Hispanic male vote in 2024. But Hispanic men are people who drive. They're people who drive trucks, often big trucks. diesel prices are very, very problematic for them. They're not people who have a lot of financial cushion. And so the war and the spike in prices has been really irritating to Hispanics. So I believe we can get them back because they're not going to find a cultural home in the radical Democrat Party. They certainly don't agree with Islam. They don't agree with there being 30 genders. They don't agree with open borders. However, I think we need to just recognize reality, which is This war spiked prices. It sent real wages back to negative. Unfortunately, we had a great trend pre-war of real wages growing. Real wages went back to negative because of the war. And working class people, including Hispanics, are very irritated about it. 00:49:19 Speaker 1: And that has me confused. 00:49:20 Speaker 5: About a lot of states, your state of Arizona, Texas, a lot of things, even Georgia, for example, people don't realize how Latin Georgia is about 10% of Georgia is Hispanic. And I think those are going to be tough races there. largely because we don't have quite the Hispanic support that we did previously. Now, again, I'm optimistic we can get it back, but we better wrap up this war and we better get diesel prices down. 00:49:41 Speaker 4: It's a long-term thing, but an underrated split, I think, that's happening in politics is the difference between people who live in a real economy and people who live in a fake economy. So you live in a fake economy if you're a government employee where you'll probably never really get laid off. Uh, if you're reliant on Trump's laid off a lot, but that's a, that was a rude awakening to reality for a lot of them. But if you're in a business that actually has to make payroll each month, if you have to buy and sell, if you work in the real world, you're not just working in spreadsheets, working in emails, working in digital cyberspace. If you are in the real world, that's a trend in our favor because Democrats are so hostile to that sector of the economy that But as you say, Steve, that also means they're very reactive to fluctuations in things like gas prices. It's so true. They are people who drive a truck for a living. They rack up lines. 00:50:36 Speaker 1: They notice it. 00:50:38 Speaker 5: The average Hispanic household has literally an extra person compared to other households in America. So it's an extra mouth to feed. Hispanics, on average, are a much younger demographic. They're actually a full decade younger, on average, than our non-Hispanic Americans. Younger people tend to not own a lot of assets. So this isn't a constituency that has enjoyed some of the asset appreciation, which has been very good for the wealthy in our society. Again, this is a working class society. And to be specific with the numbers, by the way, I even specifically asked in this national Hispanic poll, what concerns you more? Is it high prices or immigration enforcement? Seventy three to 19 percent. 00:51:16 Speaker 1: It's high prices. 00:51:17 Speaker 5: Only 19 percent of Hispanics. And those, by the way, that 19 percent, that's an unwinnable group largely live in California, by the way. And only 19% said that what concerns them more right now is immigration enforcement. So overwhelmingly, Hispanics are pro-law and order. They are overrepresented in law enforcement, as a matter of fact. And when I, in the same poll, when I actually describe the Trump deportation agenda, which is offering generous incentives, we offer you a free trip home, cash in your pocket, and the ability to reapply later. When I describe that policy to Hispanics, we get super majority support there. 00:51:52 Speaker 1: Polling. It gets up actually into the 60s. 00:51:54 Speaker 5: So it's just a myth that Hispanics are loose on law and order or that they are soft. 00:51:59 Speaker 1: On the border. That's not true. However, we have a problem right now with Hispanics, and it's because of prices. 00:52:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. So if you had a crystal ball, if you had a magic wand, and you were talking to President Trump, you are a former Trump advisor, what would you tell him to hone in on from a messaging standpoint as we race towards. 00:52:18 Speaker 1: Last four weeks. 00:52:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, last four weeks of the election season here. Ballots are already out in a lot of states. 00:52:23 Speaker 1: Right. No, voting's already started, of course. And what I would say is two things. 00:52:26 Speaker 5: You know, first of all, focus on the fact that or the projection, I think a reasonable projection that Iran, once we get past the election, will have every incentive to wrap up this war. I mean, I just I believe that, you know, they're as aware of our political calendar and our polling as we are. 00:52:42 Speaker 1: Right. 00:52:42 Speaker 5: So they have they do not have an incentive whatsoever. to be reasonable until we get to November. But afterward, we're going to reach a settlement. We're going to end this war. We're going to get back to a pre-war trajectory of growing real wages. The Trump 2.0 boom was working pre-war. So I think he can talk about that. But here's a second angle that I have. And I don't know that President Trump will grab onto this or not. But in terms of reducing the deficit to get inflation under control, besides ending the war, I think the best thing we can do, and I know a lot of right-wingers won't agree with me on this, But the best thing we can do is raise taxes. 00:53:12 Speaker 1: On the very wealthiest Americans. 00:53:14 Speaker 5: I believe that needs to happen. We have a mountain of unsustainable debt. There's going to be sacrifice required to start attacking that $ 40 trillion in debt. The middle class has no cushion to absorb sacrifice at this point, to make sacrifices. So I believe the wealthy need to. It would be incredibly politically popular, very populous. I think promising that right now and saying we will get that done even in the lame duck session after the election, before the new Congress is seated. I think that would go a long way toward toward addressing the concerns of Hispanics. 00:53:44 Speaker 3: I actually don't disagree with you. I know there's going to be some people in this audience that have issue with that. And they'll probably email us freedom of Charlie Kirk dot com. But this was something Charlie was wrestling with a lot during the BBB debate. he understood the politics of it, right? That if you're making over a certain amount, here's the truth. Only Washington can create inflation. This is the great Milton Friedman line. Milton Friedman wanted us to set money growth at 3% a year, get the economists out of it so that we couldn't, you know, print our way into these inflationary periods like we saw under Joe Biden after COVID. So, you know, the point is, if we do not start paying our bills and balancing our budget, you're just going to keep getting more inflation. There's no way around this. That is where it's coming. If we do not balance our books, you're going to keep getting inflation. And guess what happens? That benefits the economic incumbents, the asset class, and it hurts working class people. It hurts people that are just entering the workforce, like our students. Final thoughts to you, Steve Cortez. Are you watching the early returns very closely, 15 seconds? 00:54:49 Speaker 1: Yes, I am. 00:54:49 Speaker 5: And by the way, I think we're doing very well with ballot returns so far. So that is actually very, very good news. Again, all these races are winnable. Please go to CortezInvestigates.com. Cortez with an S at the end. You can watch this documentary and see all of my work. Thank you both so much for having me. 00:55:03 Speaker 3: Steve, good to see you again, man. 00:55:04 Speaker 1: All right. 00:55:04 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon. Microplastics are becoming too much of a problem to ignore. They're in 94% of U.S. drinking water, 94%, 90% of our meat and seafood, and the average American inhales, get this, 68,000 microplastic particles each and every single day. 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Peachy, welcome. Our biggest problem is we have too much to go over with you, okay? 00:57:32 Speaker 6: Yeah, we do. 00:57:33 Speaker 3: There's too much to go over with you. We've got to start here, though, with this copycat, Lindsay Clancy stuff. There was a new story this morning that broke, by the way. I don't know if you saw it, but this boy, he's six years old. The mom comes slashing at the three-year-old girl. The boy, she's 35, 35-year-old mom, comes slashing at the little girl. The boy heroically steps in the way to protect the sister during the, quote-unquote, psycho mom stabbing rampage, according to the grandmother. And the boy, as a result, might have to have a limb amputated because he suffered severe injuries. But he managed to save his sister, and it looks like he's going to live at least. But this comes after a graphic. This is so recent. It comes after all the ones in this graphic. Yeah, this is what went viral, right? So 142, throw up 142. Mom allegedly stabs husband, two young children during early morning attack. Psycho South Carolina mom stabs her two kids over 50 times. Missouri mom who claims she mistakenly placed infant in oven, killing her, cops a plea deal. Lindsay Clancy obsessed mom, Corey Walsh, sang Wizard of Oz tune after hanging two-year-old son. And on and on and on. 00:58:44 Speaker 4: Eight of these, all of these headlines are in the past two weeks. 00:58:47 Speaker 3: So my question is, are we seeing Lindsay Clancy copycats or has this just been going on for a long time and we're just now aware of it? 00:58:56 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing. I mean, there have always been these cases, but they were, I feel like they were way rarer. I mean, I remember, you know, Andrea Yates, that was 2001. She drowned all five of her children, postpartum psychosis. This doesn't. feel like at least some of these, I don't know all of them, but some of them definitely are copycats, especially because the women admit they were right off. They were on the Facebook page posting about Clancy, like the day that they did it. And when that case was going on, I was predicting copycats. Other people on X were predicting that, women were going to do these copycats because that's just sort of what happens in these cases, which proves it's sort of like, there is some kind of social contagion here. Women are sort of uniquely susceptible to that. We saw this with like ROGD, you know, rapid onset gender dysphoria where one teenage girl in the group decides she's a boy. And then like very rapidly, like the entire group starts dressing like a boy. This was sort of going on. This was sort of common how girls would enter these sort of like kind of like psychosis. It's just horrible. And the only thing I was thinking today is it feels like a form, a new form of Munchausen by proxy syndrome. You guys know what that is? Where a woman, you know, has some kind of something wrong with her and she wants to make her child sick to get pity, to get people to pay attention to her, like in this sort of like narcissistic attempt to get attention. This feels like some of these cases may be like the next level of that. And, you know, like Madeline, you know, all the little girls, they want to get their appendix out too because Madeline got all the attention, all the like special treats and like the love and adoration. And they watched Lindsay get that. 01:00:40 Speaker 12: Yeah. 01:00:40 Speaker 6: It's like so sick. 01:00:42 Speaker 4: It's not a new thing. I saw someone point out that many middle class houses had fainting, special fainting couches in the 1800s. It was a common trope in novels at that time that an emotionally overwrought woman, she would faint from... The sheer emotion. And then, of course, this started to happen in real life. More recently, we've seen anorexia. That comes and goes in waves. Girls become goth or something. We're going to have this. 01:01:07 Speaker 3: There's the famous case out of Greece. Tell the story of Greece. Oh, yeah, of course. 01:01:10 Speaker 4: In the city, was it Halicarnassus? 01:01:12 Speaker 3: I'm not sure of the name of the city. 01:01:14 Speaker 4: One of those Greek cities. No, I think it was Mytilene, I think. Myletis. 01:01:18 Speaker 3: Myletis. 01:01:19 Speaker 4: Someone commits, a girl commits suicide, gets a lot of attention. There's suddenly a suicide epidemic in this city of Miletus until the archon of the city, or the tyrant, whatever he was, says, we're displaying the next corpse that does this to be eaten by birds out in public. And then it stops. We're going to get this no matter what, but it does seem like we're reaching maximum level of toxicity when it's, oh, here's your contagion of a woman who murdered three of her kids is getting favorable coverage, becoming... a martyr in the press and social media. 01:01:52 Speaker 3: Yeah. Go ahead. Peachy. 01:01:54 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:01:55 Speaker 6: She's, she's been elevated Lindsay to the sort of iconic status. Um, like you said, a murder and she became a, uh, a symbol of female liberation. Like in my book, I have a chapter of female liberation theology, this idea. And I don't think that the Lindsay Clancy Clay, like the actual crime itself has really anything to do with this, but I think women were interpreting it kind of imposing their own view of that this is what women need kind of need to do. I think this is the end state of feminism. You have to escape your housewife, you're beaten down motherhood. You gotta, you gotta ditch the kids and the husband to kind of like express who you really are. Now that is sort of like, is that what Lindsay was doing? No, I do not think so at all. But I think the women see something in her story that they kind of want for themselves. And so it is extremely disturbing. 01:02:40 Speaker 12: Yeah. 01:02:41 Speaker 3: Peachy you're, you're Catholic, I believe. And so, You know, it's interesting. My wife was saying that she was talking to a bunch of her girlfriends during this Lindsay Clancy trial. And she said a lot of them were experiencing irritability towards their children. And I was like, are you experiencing that? She's like, yeah, until I caught it. I caught myself doing it. She's like, I totally believe that there was a spiritual vibe going on. 01:03:04 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:03:07 Speaker 3: Super anecdotal, but this was my wife's lived experience. She was hearing this from her girlfriends during this happening. Do you believe that that's spiritual or is this more psychological? I'm just trying to make heads or tails of this. 01:03:20 Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, I definitely understand that. I mean, I get annoyed at my kids. Everybody gets annoyed at their kids. 01:03:27 Speaker 3: Right. 01:03:27 Speaker 6: They drive you crazy. But I think that case kind of brought to the forefront, especially on TikTok, where women were posting videos pretending– oops, I dropped my baby off the stairs. Oops, I'm going to look at my annoying little son. And so they were kind of like being open with how frustrated they were with their like bratty kids and like quite angry, like quite cruel. These videos, these children are going to watch these one day. And so I think that did open the gate for some moms to think, yeah, you know what? These kids are driving me crazy and I'm going to do something about it. I'm going to talk about it. And I just find that to be Very, very dark. 01:04:01 Speaker 1: It's like I have a rule. 01:04:02 Speaker 6: I don't ever bad mouth my husband to people. Even if we have an argument or I'm annoyed at something he did. All husbands and wives have that. I don't ever go around and bitch about him to anyone. And I think the same should be true with your toddlers. 01:04:16 Speaker 3: Of course. 01:04:17 Speaker 6: They're just little kids. 01:04:19 Speaker 4: I'm feeling maybe this already exists, but just the same way that you might be told to watch out for evidence of drug addiction in your family. You almost get workshops. I feel like we need like churches, for example, might need to have workshops on women, how to make sure you're not accidentally going to set off like a bad social contagion cascade. Like the mild version you mentioned of bad mouthing your husband. It's totally a thing that you can get into a cycle of women all dumping on each other's husbands and that can result. One of them gets divorced. Divorce is also contagious, just like all these other things that we talked about. Like we, I feel a big, aspect of modernity is us coming to terms with the fact that we are not wholly autonomous, wholly rational agents who act completely independent of everyone else. Charlie talked about this. You are shaped by who you choose to be around. And when we are all around people who are doing these negative, uh, social dynamics, you know, dumping on other people, really lionizing someone who murders their kids or does something really destructive. We're unleashing the, demonic evil forces into our lives that we need to be more aware of. 01:05:28 Speaker 3: Well, and so Peachy, let's take this like one level deeper here too, because we have the Cornell seven case in the first part of our one, we covered a alleged rape incident from a congressional candidate that's running up against Abe Hamada. I don't know if you've seen that story, but it just, it occurred to us, both Blake and I were reading it. It's like, well, the story drops when ballots drop and it's in the backdrop of this Cornell case protests, Vote of no confidence for the administration there. Leticia James, named special prosecutor, who's gone on record saying that the Trump administration is too male, too pale, too stale. This is the gal that's running a frat investigation. Should go well. So, I mean, but this is a deeper. There's concerns about our women, Peachy. There's concerns. We're concerned. I'll leave it to you to take that where you will. 01:06:16 Speaker 6: That is like what a lot of my reason I have a writing career. You know, my first book, Domestic Extremists, was sort of making this case that a lot has gone wrong with American women. And I attribute a lot of that to feminism, to second and third wave feminism that has sold us a lot of lies. And, you know, I hang out with women who are kind of escaped from feminism. And we do really feel like we have escaped from a cult that was lying to us for a long time and telling us to postpone marriage, to not get married. You don't need a husband to have a family. You have to focus on your career. You're the main character and that's it. It's you and nobody else, honey. And so we were sold that and we were sold that in the nineties and we're continuing to be sold that now. And that's what my first book was about. It really has to change. And I call myself an anti-feminist that triggers some people who think you can still be a conservative woman and be a feminist. And And they accuse me of like, you don't want women to have rights. You don't think women should be able to vote. I'm like, no, I never said that. That's like a crazy straw man. But we have to get back to sort of this old fashioned tradition, which is there's a reason, you know, why young women were encouraged to get married and have families. There's a reason there was like, you know, Chesterton's fence. There was a reason they had all these guardrails in place for humans because they were tried and true. 01:07:37 Speaker 11: Yeah. 01:07:38 Speaker 3: I mean, this is why. Chivalry is a beautiful thing. This is why we teach young men to behave themselves and to keep it in their pants. And by the way, why we teach young women to resist men that are like that, to guard their chastity, because when you don't, you are consenting to a whole smorgasbord of sin. And it's not going to go well. But when you say yes to the first couple steps, guess what? Don't be surprised when it ends in disaster for you. And just because you regret it, Doesn't mean you get to ruin the lives of seven other young men. I want to just, we got peachy Keenan waiting here, but I want to throw up a graphic. And it looks like President Trump is speaking right now. So there'll be less of you seeing this, but that's okay. I want to throw up 159. This is a big announcement. AmFest, the speaker graphic is dropping within minutes. And so I'm going to do it just a little bit early on this show. 159. Throw it up. J.D. Vance. 01:08:40 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah. 01:08:41 Speaker 3: Erica Kirk. Don Jr. Caroline Leavitt. Jesse Waters. Franklin Graham. 01:08:45 Speaker 4: That'll be the first time at any. 01:08:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. Spencer Pratt. Brandon Gill. Tulsi Gabbard. Michael Knowles. Steve Bannon. Ana Polina Luna. Brandon Tatum. Riley Gaines. Benny Johnson. Jack Posobiec. Dr. Ben Carson. Alex Clark. Emily Austin, huge following on social and Emily Austin, Nick Shirley, me, Graham Allen. Sorry about that. Jeremy Boring, Matt Gates, John Doyle, Kristen Hawkins, James O'Keefe, Nick Freitas, Matt Shaw, third baseman for the Cubs. Sorry. Sorry about that, Danny. And Gad said, that's just the first draft. Drop for Ant Fest. 01:09:19 Speaker 4: Is that literally the first time Brandon Gill's been on a TPUSA poster? 01:09:24 Speaker 3: And he made it second round. 01:09:25 Speaker 4: He's already pretty far up. He's such a rising star. I'm so glad we identified him early. 01:09:29 Speaker 3: We identified that. We were early on the... And I just want to make sure everybody also knows that if you use the code TCKS, so The Charlie Kirk Show, TCKS, you get 25% off your tickets, alright? TCKS for 25% off, so Hopefully we will see you at AmFest in December at the Phoenix Convention Center, December 17th through the 20th. There's going to be so much going on. And we have a bunch of debates we're about to roll out. You're going to really like our debates, I'm just telling you. Absolutely must watch and must attend. So it's going to be an amazing event. We hope to see you in Phoenix, December 17th through the 20th at AmFest. I'm just really proud of the team. That's a great lineup. J.D. Vance, already on the graphic. He's going to hold it down, our keynote. Peachy, hopefully we see you, too. Maybe we've got to put you on a debate. Maybe we can find some feminist, Peachy, that we can get you to debate. It's like you and Rachel Wilson versus somebody. You know what I mean? Probably too conservative. Because, by the way, there's a lot of conservative women that have a whole lot of feminism, and they don't even know it. 01:10:41 Speaker 6: Oh, there's a whole debate going on right now. You guys don't even know. We'll have to do another. 01:10:44 Speaker 3: No, tell us about it. We got five minutes. 01:10:47 Speaker 6: There's a war. Well, I have been in various group chats and collectives of women over the years since I've been writing about politics. And there is a sort of like a war going on right now between everyone's kind of conservative. Everyone's basically like a pro-life. We share so much in common that I'm always like, why is everyone mad? But part of the group, one factor, believes in feminism strongly and wants to reclaim feminism. They want to rebrand it as, no, feminism is good and right and just, and we are going to embrace it, and we are going to reject anti-feminists. Their enemy is sort of like people like me, who are right-wing, MAGA, and anti-feminists. Like I said, they think we're like these retrograde, you know, primitive, we want to go back to the, we chain to the kitchens. And then there's a lot of other women and these are very bright women, lots of books, very academic, smart. Helen Andrews is among these, um, Carrie Gress. Um, they want Molly Hemingway. They are like, no, we totally reject feminism. We want to have a new thing. And actually I'm working with, um, Scott Yanor has a, has a, has a new initiative, but he's about to drop from heritage. That's going to be all about this. And I'm really excited to be part of that. Um, And it's basically saying, no, we just need to move away from this label because that framing is now this fully left wing. And basically it's a Marxist. It was taken over by Marxists in the 60s. We have to have a new word. We've got to we've got to ditch feminism, leave it in the dustbin of history. So that's what. 01:12:18 Speaker 3: Femininity, femininity. 01:12:20 Speaker 6: Exactly. Exactly. 01:12:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:12:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:12:22 Speaker 3: So what like what what are the contours of this new thing? I'm just curious. 01:12:27 Speaker 6: Well, I don't want to get, you know, jump the gun. I know that Scott is, you know, there's a whole thing coming out. They'll be rolling out, but basically it is like a lot of the themes I wrote about. I've been writing about for years that women who prioritize their family, prioritize the motherhood over career. That is a good thing. And we should not make it optional. And I think a lot of the women on the other side are, Um, they, I think they're just really, they just don't like Donald Trump. 01:12:54 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:12:54 Speaker 6: They just react very strongly to kind of like right wing, right wing people, right wing conservatism. It just kind of rubs them the wrong way. I have a hard time exact knowing exactly where they're coming from. 01:13:06 Speaker 3: Because we had Kristen Hawkins on and she kind of got into it on X during the Lindsay Clancy stuff. And, I don't think she appreciated– she understood. She wasn't herself very offended by it, but she was basically saying, hey, men, relax. You're driving away the women. So I'm open-minded to this discussion because I do want to be able to be very forceful when it comes to common sense, when it comes to holding women accountable for their own actions because that's a thing too. Women, these people, not you, of course, there's a whole move, a messaging segment of the population that wants to essentially infantilize women and never hold them accountable for anything, never give them the courtesy of holding them accountable for their own agency. We can't have that. But I do want to make sure that the language is welcoming to women and says, hey, this is your movement too. But it's a tricky balance to find. 01:14:02 Speaker 11: Yeah. 01:14:03 Speaker 6: And I think the other side, there is a large, like I said, group of conservative, mostly Christian women who do accuse the right, the MAGA right of being misogynist. When they, people make jokes about, we need to repeal the 19th amendment, you know, things like that. They take it seriously. They really do feel like deeply offended. I think there's some thin skin on that side, but there, the whole thing is that right-wing men are misogynist. They clearly hate women. They want to put us all back in the kitchen. They think we're these like trad wives, these like stereotypes. We're not, you know, And so I think a lot of what they're coming from is like not real. Like I think they're kind of reacting to a straw man who doesn't really exist. 01:14:39 Speaker 7: I mean, here I am. 01:14:40 Speaker 6: I have always been treated great by men in the conservative movement. I have never like I don't I don't feel that maybe because I'm Gen X. 01:14:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're also like you're you're you're you're just you're like the ideal in so many ways. You know how to you know how to speak our language. We know how to speak yours because it's the same language, the same value set. And we have the same goals. And so I have to ask you about this, though, Peachy. You have a background in entertainment, broadly speaking. Paramount deal. 01:15:10 Speaker 6: Good? 01:15:10 Speaker 3: Bad? Are you stoked? Is Hollywood dead? One minute. 01:15:16 Speaker 6: I think it's great. I love the deal. I have very high hopes for it. But mainly I'm happy because Netflix is going to sink now. Warner Brothers had to be sold. They were going to be sold to somebody else. Netflix basically run by the Obamas and their cartel. So I'm very happy to see them lose. But anyone thinking that David Ellison is some kind of right-wing conservative and that Paramount movies are going to be these conservative values, no. They're run by Dana Goldberg of Skydance. She's a liberal feminist. So everyone has to tamp their expectations down so the movies are going to be better. But I feel like it's a very healthy sign for Hollywood. 01:15:54 Speaker 3: Oh, good. we'll see they're gonna move out though right aren't they like closing i don't think. 01:15:59 Speaker 6: So no i think that was i think that was canceled with this i think they're gonna stay they may have offices and shoot elsewhere but i think they had the studio in on melrose will in la will i think still be paramount. 01:16:09 Speaker 3: There it is peachy keenan everybody check out our book super villains she is the base resident trad wife female that we love stay 01:16:18 Speaker 4: Based For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.