A Confirmation Battle for Charlie’s Legacy

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 00:01:09 Speaker 5: All right, hour two the Charlie Kirk Shows underway. Welcome back, so excited to have Jeremy Carl back on the show. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Jeremy Carl. 00:01:18 Speaker 5: You have been nominated for Assistant Secretary of State for inter International Organizations. 00:01:25 Speaker 3: I got it. 00:01:26 Speaker 5: It's a bit of a mouthful of a title, but what an honor to be nominated. 00:01:30 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. It's so good to see you. How you doing. 00:01:33 Speaker 4: I'm doing great. 00:01:34 Speaker 6: I had a fun time in DC last week despite all the fireworks. 00:01:38 Speaker 4: I truly did. 00:01:39 Speaker 6: And you know, I'm just as I said, as you said, it was an honor to be nominated and looking forward to hopefully being able to join. 00:01:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, well so and Blake, I mean, feel free to chime in here, but yeah, you had one of the more eventful nomination hearings that we've seen in recent memory. And boy did they come after you with just I mean it was like hyperbole, which which you. 00:02:03 Speaker 3: Knew was gonna have. 00:02:03 Speaker 7: I talked to you before that hearing and you said like, I'm gonna have to sit there and just get you know, raked over it for a couple hours, and that's exactly what they did. 00:02:13 Speaker 5: They called you every name in the book. I mean this, Yeah, this was just it felt like you know what it felt like a throwback to like twenty twenty or like twenty nineteen or something like that, twenty twenty one, and I just was like, have like, are we really still like are you still going with these days? 00:02:31 Speaker 3: Are we going to? Yeah? 00:02:32 Speaker 7: Are we gonna let them do this sort of bad faith framing of everything? And also, as we talked about last week, that bit where they just pretend to not know what people are talking about, so they went after you, of course for your book, which is a great book and people should read it, and all the unprotected class. They they're gonna rake you over the cold because you say America has anti white discrimination in it. 00:02:54 Speaker 3: Well, it does. They brag about it and demand more of it all the time. But yeah, you know what do you have to say? 00:03:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jerry, about you? Do you still stand by this idea? 00:03:05 Speaker 4: Jeremy? Yeah? Thanks? 00:03:06 Speaker 6: And that was actually the most the part I was most proud of about the hearing is there's you know, it's a high pressure environment when you go in there, and even if you're somebody like me who's certainly spoken in public for on many occasions, when you have a bunch of very hostile senators controlling the microphone, and saying, you know, have you no decency? You know, how dare you have that view? It's very easy to kind of recant or go back, and I didn't do that at all. I stood by my beliefs, which I certainly do believe very strongly, and so you know, I kept my integrity. That was really the most important thing to me going into the hearing, and just the sort of avalanche of positive correspondence and comments that I got afterward really convinced me that obviously, not just morally but practically, that was the right thing to do. 00:03:57 Speaker 7: All right, Well, we definitely we wanted to have you on because Charlie fought for your nomination. He was one of the people you were one of the people he really wanted to get into the government. 00:04:07 Speaker 5: Uh. 00:04:07 Speaker 7: He was very excited about it. Really really fought for you. But you're facing obviously a ton of opposition from Democrats. But what's been frustrating to us to hear is there's been some skepticism from one of the Republicans on the community, Senator Curtis from Utah, and his ex breast reason was very odd to us. He believes you were not supportive enough of America's policy towards Israel, and he basically said you would be bad for that role because you're going to the United Nations. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: Now that's shocking to us, because we. 00:04:36 Speaker 7: Know Charlie was a huge supporter of Israel and are US, you know, protecting them in the Middle East. So the floor is yours to respond to Senator Curtis's concerns. 00:04:48 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I want to be first sympathetic to Sendor Curtis. I mean, I think if you were primarily viewing this from the media APO dumps that were happening in the weeks up to the the hearing, and then certainly the comments the Democrats were making Baby, you would be skeptical. But I certainly would point, as you note, to Charlie's support of me, And Charlie was really, of course a great supporter of the US's real relationship. And I also, of course worked as the right hand man for a decade for the late Secretary of State George Schultz, who was run on a Reagan Secretary of State and was also sort of second to none as a champion of the US's real relationship. So I'd certainly point to things like that and the fact that those two gentlemen chose to be in my corner over a number of year. Secretary Schultz and Charlie, of course both sadly no longer. 00:05:39 Speaker 4: With us, but that sort of speaks to my views. 00:05:44 Speaker 6: And then obviously just personally within the UN system itself, I mean, there's no question it's a hotbed of anti Semitism. 00:05:50 Speaker 4: The focus on. 00:05:51 Speaker 6: Israel they have there is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. It wastes time from actual productive things that could be accomplished. And there's no question that we are their biggest ally in that system where they often don't have other allies, and we, just like any other close ally, we have to be very supportive of them in that context. And I would certainly just say that, not just because of some under Curtis, but I would have said it if I could have gotten more than two words edgewise in the hearing itself. 00:06:22 Speaker 5: Well, and by the way you, I mean much has been made you grew up Jewish apparently, But it's also it doesn't mean that you don't have critiques of the status quo relationship or the way that money flows or any of that stuff. 00:06:36 Speaker 3: All of that stuff's on the table. 00:06:37 Speaker 5: But to say you know, you are broadly supportive of that ally and of that relationship, their right to exist, they're right to defend themselves. So I don't know what the even what the to do was about. To be perfectly honest, it's like, yeah, you can have critiques without basically saying, hey, we need to blow up this whole relationship or something. 00:06:55 Speaker 6: Oh, that's right, and I mean there's I mean, I had a huge amount of support very publicly on the eve of the hearing and afterwards, from prominent members of the pro Israel community. All of our UN ambassadors were supportive. The global envoy we have for addressing anti Semitism issues was supportive. 00:07:15 Speaker 4: So that's there. 00:07:16 Speaker 6: I have at times said some things that were, you know, critical of some sub aspect of it, but none of that really impinges on what we're doing in the UN. 00:07:26 Speaker 4: There's no question that. 00:07:27 Speaker 6: For the actual job that I would be put in if I'm confirmed by the Senate, that I would be four square for every element of the US Israel alliance. This is not a tough question. It's not a close call. It's really obvious that, frankly, the behavior toward Israel in the UN system is egregious and we you know, should be fully supportive of them in that context. 00:07:50 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been so galling to me to see this happen because we have to have all these Democrats on stage posturing about this when they're the party that's allied with ma'am don. They're the party that has people routinely demanding boycott's, who are routinely saying like there's one big villain in the Middle East and the genocide w and they're endlessly using this as part of their wider front. As you're well aware that they. 00:08:14 Speaker 3: Attack Israel basically because they see it as Western, because they see it as European, because. 00:08:20 Speaker 7: They see it as you know, they code it as white, as we say, and as we see this administration is standing up for those things. That's why Secretary State Mark Rubio, we were just touting his speech in Munich where he says, we are going to confidently stand for Western civilization and we have to be doing that at the UN. And you're one of Charlie and President Trump's pick men to do that at the UN. 00:08:43 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so, so, Jeremy, your view on it right now is you have a sympathetic view towards Senator Curtis. Are we got thirty seconds in this last segment? Are we hopeful? Are you meeting with him? Is there any news there? 00:08:57 Speaker 6: I'm hopeful, I mean obviously hearing just tap and I've got I don't want to sort of name names because the process is going on, but I've got some senators who are very strongly in my corner and who I think would love to make a meeting happen so that I could sort of clarify a bit more of my background and interests and in these sorts of issues to Senator Curtis. I really do feel like if he gives me a little bit of time to speak with him, I think he'd be very reassured in this area. 00:09:27 Speaker 4: So I hope to get the chance to do just that. 00:09:32 Speaker 5: Folks, let me tell you something straight up. I'm extremely picky about what I put in my body in what companies we support. 00:09:39 Speaker 3: Here. 00:09:39 Speaker 5: Blackout Coffee checks every single box. This is a family run American company roasting fresh coffee in the USA, built by people who believe in hard work, freedom and America. No global corporations, no fake activism, no lectures, just darn good coffee made by Americans for Americans. This is coffee that actually stands for something. 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He obviously it was a version of the Salem Witch Trials at the Senate. First Democratic counterparts there, so you didn't get to talk about the substance of the actual well job and what makes you competent? 00:11:02 Speaker 3: And which is I think the whole point They wanted to. 00:11:04 Speaker 5: Distract from the fact that you are one of the most articulate, competent I would say, defenders of American values, of President Trump's platform as foreign policy. They didn't want you to talk about any of that. So you know, the floor is now yours, Jeremy. Why do you want this job and what do you hope to accomplish? 00:11:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much. 00:11:27 Speaker 6: And I was actually at the beginning of this process, which was further back than any of you would probably believe, even if I told you. I was given a choice of a few different portfolios that I might have had, and really, after thinking about it a little bit, chose this one as a place where I could really make an impact because, look, the United Nations and certainly many other international organizations have been a long time source of frustration to those of us who are America first, to those of us who believe in American sovereignty. I mean, there's no question that, as President Trump has said, they have great potential, but they have not lived up to that potential. But I think there's a lot of things that we could be doing need to be doing in these bodies. There's sort of a horseshoe effect I think a little bit here where the people who are sort of most opposed to the UN in the United States and the people who are actually inside the UN kind of want the same thing, which is to have a bunch of shop talk and not really a lot of useful concrete action on the things that the UN should be doing, which really primarily should focus around keeping the peace and certainly not being a global government. What I want to do is have the UN do a limited set of things and actually do them effectively and advance US interests in them. So that means we want to be countering China and Chinese influence everywhere we can. We want to be in the standards bodies and making sure we elect Americans in those standards bodies. There's fifty six different I believe standards bodies within the UN system, ranging for the International Atomic Energy Agency to the International Telecommunications Union. People necessarily think about them in the US that much, but they actually end up often having enormous influence on what we do. So you start with things like that, You start with the US Israel relationship, which I talked about there, and we need to be very good protectors of Israel and other allies, and there's really just you know, it's a huge organization. There's so many different moving parts. But I think aggressively moving on issues of US sovereignty, trying to stop the migration abuse that we've seen that has led to open borders throughout the world, which is often enabled by the UN system. Those would be kind of the priorities that I would have that I have if I'm confirmed for the job, which of course I didn't get to talk about during the hearings. 00:13:44 Speaker 5: You know, there was that powerful moment in Secretary rubio speech where he says, the UN has the ability to do a lot of good. It could be a tool for good, and then he goes through the list of instances where it actually was useless. But it took American it took B two bombers in Iran, it took special forces in Venezuela. You know, it took those European partners coming together along with the US to even get peace negotiations, a discussion to even begin between Ukraine and Russia. What did you make of Secretary Rubio's speech and what are you pulling out What are the through lines that you're pulling out from that moment? 00:14:22 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, I'm liked you mentioned it was absolutely terrific speech. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: I'm not just saying not because he may be. 00:14:28 Speaker 6: My boss at some point in your future, but I thought it was outstanding. I thought it did a great job of having a really hopeful vision and also really stressing the importance of American the sovereignty and American power at the same time. I thought the critique of the UN was right on, and it really gets to what I was just saying earlier, which is, well, okay, is the UN I'm going to just sit there and be a place the talk shop and doesn't actually get anything done. If I were in the UN, that wouldn't really strike me as something that would be enhancing my power and credibility. And so what I want to do is to have hopefully be able to effectuate, under US leadership some internal reforms so that we can act in places like Venezuela and we're not just sort of hamstrung by these infinitely kind of back and forth processes that are all just about virtue signaling. 00:15:22 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's really great to emphasize this, because it's already bad enough. People might be asking, why are we having this hearing about you. It's because you were nominated way back last spring, and then the Senate's taken a while on a lot of nominees, and thankfully they resubmitted you again. The White House has really stood by you, and that's one reason it's so important to get you in. They've admirably stood by their people even where they've faced some you know, bad faith opposition, and I want to make sure we get to this. So, especially if you are in Utah, we want you to call Senator Curtis's offices. We have respectfully being don't don't flip out, don't don't bad Malcolm, don't say anything nasty, just say especially callin regardless, but especially if you're. 00:16:05 Speaker 3: In Utah, give him a call. 00:16:06 Speaker 7: His DC office is to zero two two two four five two five one. Let's repeat that for the podcast. People to zero two two two four five two five to one. Say you're calling your uh Utah voter if you're from there, and you say, I'm calling about Jeremy Carl's nomination to be Assistant Secretary of State for International organizations mention that he was one of Charlie's favorites. He really wanted him in that post. And you want the Senator to honor Charlie. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: I want to. 00:16:40 Speaker 5: I want to underscore be respectful, respectful, and I also want to underscore that Jeremy didn't know we were doing this, so I just yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, please please please please know this good backfire, Jeremy if you if handled poorly. So just be very respectful to the Senator. 00:16:56 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm I'm. 00:16:58 Speaker 5: Still hopeful because Jeremy, I know you're a man of great charm and whimsy, and I know that. 00:17:03 Speaker 4: I'm hoping I can, and you know, I'm glad. 00:17:05 Speaker 6: I also you mentioned the degree to which the White House has stood by me, which I really appreciate. I mean, all of this stuff that did come out came out since my initial nomination, and some of it was kind of known, or at least it was out there, so it wasn't a surprise. 00:17:19 Speaker 4: Others of it, you know, sort of surfaced for the first. 00:17:21 Speaker 6: Time, and the White House took all of that into account and just said, you know, hey, this is still our guy. 00:17:27 Speaker 4: It doesn't change our view of him. 00:17:28 Speaker 6: We know that he's a really strong guy and will be good in this and I'm just, you know, incredibly appreciative of the support of President Trump and Secretary of Rubio to really stand strong at a time when a lot of others would have folded. 00:17:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and look, listen the viewpoints that the Democrats were hitting you with. You know, whether that in the exchange you had with Corey Booker was hilarious to me. He's like, really, you believe that, you know, you held your ground, but it was just amazing to me that this was like shocking to them. These are down the middle, completely mainstream conservative beliefs that you hold. And the more that they're going to try and gaslight the public and thinking that mainstream conservative beliefs, by the way, proven We've got a billion clips that prove all of these positions, you know, you know, whatever, the fact that they're still trying to act surprise about them at this point, Jeremy is really That's why I said I felt like I was in twenty twenty one, twenty nineteen, something like that, twenty fourteen. Even what's your final message, Well, my. 00:18:27 Speaker 6: Final message, I think is that I would love to have the opportunity to serve the president and the country in this role. I really appreciate the support of you guys. I mean, Charlie, it was such a huge, huge loss, just personally professionally, but I love the fact that you guys are carrying on his legacy and really appreciative of your support now and over the years. 00:18:49 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Jammy, carl we have your back. We expect to see you at the State Department soon. 00:18:56 Speaker 7: The online world moves fast, and it's moving even faster these days. That's why TikTok approaches teen safety with families in mind from the start, because discovery and creativity are both wonderful things, but it's important to make sure that safety comes first as well. On TikTok, teenagers have over fifty built in protections right from. 00:19:15 Speaker 4: When they join. 00:19:16 Speaker 7: Accounts routines all start private by default, They're not open to the entire world, and for those under sixteen, direct messages are turned off. Only their friends can comment on their videos. 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We just found out that Robert Duval died, who is an iconic American actor, kind of old Hollywood and just I think he was a winger. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: Yeah he was, Yeah, he was. 00:21:17 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was supporting McCain back in two thousand and eight. That's well, come on, but with him, Okay, it's great. Is it a sliding scale? Well, I mean he got old. I think he was probably just less prominent because he. 00:21:28 Speaker 3: Was well, he died at ninety five. 00:21:30 Speaker 5: I mean he lived a good, long life and some of the most iconic clips. You have one pulled up right, Yes, yes, we have that ready to go. Let's make sure we have that number. 00:21:39 Speaker 3: At it all right, I say you have the clip ready? 00:21:42 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, So let's do two ninety eight. 00:22:00 Speaker 3: You smell that. 00:22:03 Speaker 8: Nike fuk Son. Nothing else lit the world smells like that. I I love the smell of pipe palm in the morning. Do you know what time we had a hillbomb for twelve hours when it was all alive, walked up. 00:22:21 Speaker 3: We didn't find one of them, that one thinking big body. 00:22:27 Speaker 5: Spell. 00:22:27 Speaker 8: You know that gasoline smell all hell. 00:22:33 Speaker 3: Smell fuck. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: Victory. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Sean uh. 00:22:41 Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw the news, but if you have any thoughts on Robert Duval, feel free. 00:22:45 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:22:46 Speaker 1: So my favorite role of his it wasn't on the big screen. It was in the TV mini series of Lonesome Dove, which I think is the greatest American novel ever written, and he played uh Gus McCrae. I think it's one of the greatest roles he ever played. It's one of the greatest characters ever written, and he was just spectacular. 00:23:03 Speaker 7: He's a great role in my personal favorite film. At least I used to always say this, I'd have to rewatch it. It's been a while, but thank you for smoking. Oh the movie about the tobacco lobbyist. He's the he's the tobacco baron, tells you how to make a perfect mint. Jewe lip talkt to him by Fidel. 00:23:19 Speaker 5: Castro, all the all the obviously, the Godfather series, Open Range, little appreciated movie of his Days of Thunder, which is where Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman met and ended up getting married. But Rebin's racing son, because he's a Tom Cruise is getting is complaining that they keep bumping his car and he's like, it's not bumping. 00:23:41 Speaker 3: It didn't hit you. 00:23:42 Speaker 5: They revenue Rebin's racing anyways. So many good movies, John Q, The Great Santini, Jack Raacher, The Apostle. Uh, this guy is legitimately one of just the most. I mean, he's got movies in the seventies with Clinton Eastwood, the Network. 00:24:01 Speaker 3: I mean he played Bobby Lee and gods in Generals. Yeah, okay, I didn't see that. 00:24:06 Speaker 1: Uh, secondhand, I forgot about Days of Thunder, which is the second greatest racing movie ever made after Talladaga Nights. 00:24:12 Speaker 4: Ricky Bobby. 00:24:13 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:24:13 Speaker 5: Well, of course everybody knows this, and you're you're, you're, you're a Southern gentleman. At this point, Sean, so you can appreciate. I'm actually supposed to go to my first NASCAR race in March. I think, uh, maybe I've got that miss mistaken. Anyway, I've never been, but a lot of people love it. A lot of people are saying, all right, that's not why I had we had you on, but the news just broke, And you know I I love lifting up. Actually a talented actor that didn't disgrace himself, that died of natural causes. There wasn't some crazy story involved, so you know, God, God blessed them. God's country. I loved this country he did. He's real American. What I wanted to bring in sorry, I'm still getting over something. All family pharmacy to help me out here. So what I wanted to get in here, Sean is there was a couple of clips that I couldn't help noticing and drawing a pattern. First, one up, let's just start with Obama because he went on this podcast made a little bit of news. 00:25:07 Speaker 3: Two, the same would be true. 00:25:09 Speaker 9: Let's say here in Los Angeles around the homeless issue, the average person doesn't want to have to navigate around a tent city in the middle of downtown, and that we're not going to be able to build a working majority and support for the resources that we need to help folks like that. We're not going to be able to generate support for it if we simply say, you know what, it's not their fault and so they should be able to do whatever they want, because that's a losing political strategy. 00:25:46 Speaker 5: Okay, So my ears perked up when I heard that, But then I heard another clip Sean from Hildebeast two forty one. 00:25:55 Speaker 10: I think we need to call it for what it is, a legitimate reason to have a debate about things like migration. It went too far. It's been disruptive and destabilizing, and it needs to be fixed in a humane way with secure borders that don't torture and kill people. 00:26:15 Speaker 5: And she even Sean, you noticed she was doing the thumb thing, the Clinton thumb point, so that I really my ears perked up. 00:26:23 Speaker 3: And then it all came together. 00:26:24 Speaker 5: It all crystallized with Andy Basheer, the touted renowned moderate from Kentucky play cut two forty. 00:26:33 Speaker 2: How do you respond to a Democratic voter who might say I like you, I like your track record in a red state or red commonwealth, but you're too soft spoken. 00:26:42 Speaker 3: Yes, that message is working. 00:26:43 Speaker 11: Look at Abigail Spanberger and Mikey Cheryl, who ran great campaigns in races that should have been structurally difficult, and they both won by double digits. 00:26:53 Speaker 3: You know, the. 00:26:53 Speaker 11: DGA, and our candidates are winning everywhere. Many Americans feel like the pendulum swung too far during the Bible administration and have swung way too far during the Trump administration. 00:27:03 Speaker 3: And what they want is in. 00:27:05 Speaker 11: America where they can wake up every morning and not be worried about its future. 00:27:10 Speaker 6: Ah. 00:27:11 Speaker 5: So okay, So Virginia is the model, Sean. You know all about Virginia and you know all about Spamburger. What are you gleaning from that series of clips we just played. 00:27:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating to watch, especially all of them together. To me, it's obvious what they're doing, and it's that they understand. These these democrats, they understand they cannot get elected saying the things that they believe. So now there's a long campaign to get them to say things that they don't believe but that sound good in the hopes that they can get elected and then not do any of those things. So you have Obama talking about dealing with the homeless problem. Democrats don't care about dealing with the homeless problem. But you have to say that because people are sick of it. They don't like being accosted by crazy drug addicts on the streets. So yeah, we'll pretend to care about that. With Hillary, you have to prove pretend to care about the borders, because that sound sane. Now they don't care about the borders at all. And then you had Bashir, who's really I don't even want to say he's a left wing nut job. He's kind of a nothing. He's the son of a popular former Kentucky politician and that's the only reason he's in office. But he let the mask slip there, especially with Spanberger, who's a total left wing nut job, saying, look, we just have to pretend to believe these things and say things that sound nice, and then when we get an offense, we don't have to do any of it. It's a total con job. 00:28:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:28:30 Speaker 5: Well, in remind folks about Virginia, I mean Virginia, like when I say you're going full Virginia in twenty eight, like that's full basically radical leftist communist DSA. Certainly, I mean they are taking Virginia a D six state. I mean Kamala held it by six points. They are taking it into direction like it's a D forty state. This is absolutely radical stuff and this is the playbook. Go So what are they doing in Virginia. 00:28:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean they're all but banning ice. They're undoing everything young Can did to reform schools and on the trans issue. But I will have to say, in a certain just real politics sense, I admire the Democrats for what they're doing because they don't get stuck in this trap that Republicans get in when they get in office, if they only win by a single vote, they do one hundred percent of their agenda, and it's why they're able to make such massive, sweeping cultural and political gains in the country. You look at Obamacare. That thing was a political disaster. They didn't care. They wanted to remake the country and they had to do it by remaking healthcare. And so I think Republicans actually can learn a little something from this is that if you get in and you use power for your ends to reward your friends in constituency, you will be rewarded long term. And so Democrats, they lie and they cheat and they steal. 00:29:53 Speaker 4: But it works for. 00:29:53 Speaker 5: Them, Yeah, I mean they This was just a few days after getting sworn in. New four point three percent sales tax on Uber eats, Amazon, et cetera, new sales tax on emissions to a wild wide variety of businesses. Create two new higher tax brackets of eight percent and ten percent on people making over six hundred thousand, a new ten percent bracket for anyone making over a million, three point eight percent investment tax on top of state income taxes, raise the hotel tax, new personal property tax on landscaping equipment. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Ban gas powered. 00:30:22 Speaker 5: Leaf blowers, of course, because California's just paved the way on so much of this. Guarantee a legal aliens, free education, make it illegal to approach somebody at an abortion clinic. Extend the time absentee ballots can be received after election day to three days. Allow people to cast their votes electronically through the internet. I mean, on and on and on it goes. Not to mention their redistricting fight, where they're going to have a single Republican district. Now it looks like that one has at least been stayed for a little while. They'll probably get it. What in twenty twenty eight, but it's not going to make it in time for the midterms. I mean, they just went full radical to your point. But here's what's crazy is now you see the leaders of the party signaling to the base saying, hey, go a little bit lighter, little lighter touch, fly under the radar, don't be so radical. And guess what if you do that, you get to go full Virginia in twenty six and twenty eight. I mean, it's just to me, it seems about the most clear thing I've seen in a long time. And to see, you know, Obama and Hillary still out front leading the charge. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about why Refi for some time. 00:31:33 Speaker 8: Now. 00:31:33 Speaker 5: We are all in with these guys. 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The Justice Department has just released a number of. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: Names. 00:32:31 Speaker 5: So over the weekend, it was a six page letter from the DJ signed by Pamboni and Todd Blanche and it released a series of names. And this is apparently all keeping with these Transparency Act and it gave them a thirty day statutory guideline to get this stuff out and they have. And it feels like all hell's breaking loose if you just look on exits, like allegations are flying everywhere, people like Janis Joplin's in there, Elvis, Like if you've been mentioned at all in a link of an article, in an email from Jeffrey Epstein or somebody else, you are mentioned in this what do we make of this? 00:33:11 Speaker 3: And like, how should we think about it? 00:33:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really interesting looking at all the stuff that's coming out, and yeah, there's a bazillion names in there, but there are some very key trends that we see. The main one is that through kind of his entire career of all this influenced stuff, Jeffrey Epstein was a tried and true Democrat. The people who were talking to him the most often and going to his island were Democrats. You had people like Reid Hoffman, this is a guy who's been funding hoax after hoax on behalf of the Democrats. You had Reid Hoffman who was BFFs with Jeffrey Epstein. You had Kathy Rumbler, who is Obama's ethics are and his White House counsel who is Epstein's fixer, who was involved in working with him to help mitigate scandals facing the Obama administration, even a secret Service scandal. And you look at all this and you're like, man, this is this is a pretty common theme here, Like Democrats were completely in bed with this guy. And it's been really interesting to watch the media cover this and do everything they can to not mention Reid Hoffman, who is in up to his neck in Epstein nonsense and now wants to pretend, Oh, he was just a casual pin pal with the guy. 00:34:23 Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is from CANACOA the Great, said Reid. Hoffman stayed at Jeffrey Epstein's ranch private island in Manhattan apartment. He bought ice cream for the girls. That one's real fun, a metal sculpture for the island. Hoffman donated over one hundred million dollars to Democrat causes he founded, funded the fake Russian bots on Twitter, and financed the eging Carol lawsuit people forget that one. He funded Clear Choice pack which used law fair to remove Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Cornell West from the ballot and battleground states. So he's literally used his So they emailed each other over seventeen hundred times. I don't think I've emailed anybody seventeen hundred times, like legitimately, they emailed each other seventeen They called each other very close friends, discussed the visits to Epstein's properties, private jet shopping, gift exchanges, and talked about how much they missed each other. 00:35:20 Speaker 7: That is five years of emails if they emailed once every day. 00:35:24 Speaker 5: Wow, I mean so apparently the craziest email again. Shout out to Kanacoa the Great on X. In January twenty fifteen, as allegations that Epstein trafficked Virginia Roberts to Prince Andrew went global, Hoffman offered to help Epstein with his negative press coverage. M very very fascinating. This is from CNN here it says this new DOJ document and also mentioned prominent individuals who had previously been linked to Epstein, including President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, former Trump advisor Steve Bannon, former White House counsel Kathy Rumler, and billionaire magnate Les Wexner. I there's three point five million documents. People are still pouring through them, Sean, So we're still getting new details. People are keep coming up with new kernels and new allegations, and it just seems like it's a freaking mess out there. And it feels like everything that our friend Mike Davis warned about earlier in the year last year has basically become true. That there is so much lack of context, there's so much there's a lot of stuff, there's a lot of information, and there's not a whole lot of guidance on what's true, what's out like mirror hearsay, what's you know, out of context, just mentioning of names. And it does feel like a lot of the people you didn't want to listen to them at the time have been proven right, that people are just getting smeared and like out of nowhere, innocent people are getting hurt and some of the victims are getting hurt too. 00:36:57 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:36:57 Speaker 1: Well, and you had ro Kanna another Reid Hoffmann and democrat ally go to the floor, you know, along with Thomas Massey, and they outed you know, six people who were on there as people on who were doing stuff with Epstein. They were random people in a lineup that was tangentially related to Epstein. These are random people. They didn't do anything wrong. They apparently just had their photos taken at the wrong time. The thing that I find so exasperating is, yes, we have a bazillion documents now and we're able to learn a lot. The one thing that I want to know is which intelligencies was he working for? Which ones? I don't believe anyone when they tell me, oh, he wasn't doing anything with the CIA. He wasn't doing anything with Masad, he wasn't doing anything with the Saudi's. Nope, he was just a weird guy doing stuff. No one believes that, And I guess my frustration is, after all this time, after all these years, I just assume all the documents they had, if they ever even had them, that tell us those things that answer those questions, are gone, and I just find the whole thing maddening and frustrating because I feel like that's the one thing people want to know, tell us who he was working for, and that's the one thing apparently we're never going to get to know. 00:38:06 Speaker 5: For certain well, and it's like, why does he foya himself? Why does he foya the CIA twice? I know Blake's is a nas and I'm the big skeptic. 00:38:15 Speaker 3: I think I think. 00:38:16 Speaker 5: I'm completely with you. I don't believe it. I think he was. It was soft power. Yeah, He's not like here's my here's your W two for the CIA. It wasn't like that, guys. This was all soft power behind the scenes. 00:38:28 Speaker 3: If that's what it was, then the question is like how far does it go? 00:38:30 Speaker 7: Because if it's a much more casual arrangement where he just deals in information. 00:38:34 Speaker 3: Sometimes that's I guess. 00:38:37 Speaker 7: Then you ask, what's the big scandal there, because the claim is, of course that he was doing intel ops that might blackmail people and trap people get really involved. 00:38:45 Speaker 3: I think he was running. 00:38:46 Speaker 1: I think he was doing financial transact That's what I think. And I think they let him do the kinky sex crap because he was valuable for them with the financial laundry and all that. But I don't think you'll ever know. 00:38:57 Speaker 5: Gotta gotta leave, gotta leave it there. We'll see you guys tomorrow. 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