A Civilization Dies Tonight? The Iran Panic Attack On the Right

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We will find out tonight one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. Forty seven years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran. So everybody online who has been anti war, which I consider myself to be a part of, by the way, is going to a conclusion here that I never would have even thought had I not read the comments. Everybody's assuming that he's going to wipe out Iran with a nuclear weapon. 00:02:27 Speaker 4: He did say a civilization will die to him. 00:02:29 Speaker 3: Well, so, so first of all, I think this is a huge litmus TP never to return. Well, I think he's talking about the regime. But listen, I just maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm the crazy one, and I'm not looking at President Trump's truth here in the proper light. I don't think that's true. So I know President Trump to be, to use the more polite word for it, blake. He is a smack talker, Okay. He does back it up oftentimes with actual military kinetic force. We've seen that in Venezuela. We've seen that with the Mother of All bombs. We've seen that with Solomony, We've seen it obviously in Iran. So I'm not saying these are, you know, empty threats, don't. I don't think that at all. He's given them a deadline of eight pm tonight. He extended it once to say basically say come to the negotiating table. Open the straight. He used an exploitive, open the explotive straight, opened the expletive straight. And then he did the the you know, praise be to yeah tweet, which was another tweet that's got everybody spun up so I mean, I'm looking up and down the line. Here. You've got Brett Weinstein, You've got, of course, Tucker Carlson, ro Kana, You've got a lot of people basically now saying invoke the twenty fifth, get him out of office. And then you have a bunch of other people that are saying, guys, keep your wits about you. You know. JD. Vance is out there and hungry, basically sounding a pretty conventional tone. You know. JD is known to be one of the people inside the administration who is more on the anti interventionist track. It's kind of like when Rush Limbaugh used to say, I'll let you know when it's time to worry. And I don't think we're there yet. I think this is an incredibly important day. This is a critical day, a historic day. But to jump to conclusion that President Trump is considering using a nuclear weapon, I think is beyond rational. And I would say he already did correct the record in the New York Post. He told them that he's not planning on using a. 00:04:37 Speaker 5: New Well, we'll see. 00:04:38 Speaker 6: It is as you say, he loves to go maximally aggressive rhetorically. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: A lot, and then he will back off. 00:04:45 Speaker 6: We saw this with Greenland, for example, there was all this stuff like we were. 00:04:48 Speaker 5: Going to invade Greenland. 00:04:50 Speaker 6: And then he says, oh, we got some better basing rights and mineral rights and whatever. And so I think everyone's holding their breath because, as you say, it is possible he uses. 00:05:02 Speaker 5: Doesn't need to be a nuclear weapon. 00:05:04 Speaker 6: He might drop one of those like Mother of All bombs on them, or he could just mean I'm going to hit targets that were off limits before, and he needs to credibly signal that he was ready to do that, when in fact his ideal is to reach a ceasefire, back off, de escalate. We don't know, and that's why everyone's holding their breath. So, as we mentioned that there's a lot of friction between Tucker Carlson and the President, I don't think it's surprising that he disliked the intervention in around. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: You have a lot of history and insider knowledge used to work with Tucker, so I know you see Tucker's always yeah. 00:05:38 Speaker 6: So ever since I first encountered him, Tucker was very skeptical of all of the military adventures in the Middle East. I think that's sort of what initially moved him away from He was a bit of a neo Kon type. 00:05:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, he supported that. 00:05:50 Speaker 6: He supported the original Iraq war when it began, regretted it greatly, soured on it quickly, and that's driven a lot of. 00:05:58 Speaker 5: His thinking since then. 00:06:00 Speaker 6: It's not surprising he doesn't like that, but he's really just in the last few days been getting much more aggressive about it. I think he posted a video last night exactly. In the early days, there was a lot of sort of vague. He was upset about it, but he would you do that classic attack the president's advisors. 00:06:16 Speaker 5: They have misled him. 00:06:17 Speaker 6: But he's getting more direct about it, and a lot of people are noticing it. So first of all, he criticized the president. We wanted to flag this because he's upset. He was actually quite upset about his Easter tweet where he says, praise me to Allah. He said that was not a good tone to take. Let's do clip thirteen. 00:06:35 Speaker 7: The message in our Bible, which is you are not God, and only if you think you are do you talk this way. But it's not just mockery of Islam, and no president should mock Islam. That's not your job. This is not a theocracy. We don't go to war with other theocracies to find out which theocracy is more effective. 00:06:54 Speaker 5: So we did that. 00:06:55 Speaker 6: But then even more notable, he's actually he's taken the approach of essentially saying that staffers in the White House should revolt against the president, should disobey orders from the commander in chief Clip fourteen. 00:07:11 Speaker 7: If you work in the White House, we're in the US military. Now it's time to say no, absolutely not and say directly to the President, no, case you're thinking about using some weapon of mass destructioning is the population of Iran in whose name we liberated Iran. We killed their religious leader for their benefit. Do you remember that this was last month. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say no, I'll resigned, I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out. Figure out the codes on the football yourself. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: So we obviously this is a huge escalation. Like I said, President Trump has already addressed it to the New York Post and said he's called the Tucker Carlson low iq and that he's a fool, and has denied that he is considering using new clear weapons. We've got one from Odette an email here. We asked you guys to email in. I think it makes a good point here, says Hi, guys, it's ridiculous to think someone who said Iran can never have a nuclear weapon would then bomb them with the nuclear weapon. Trump has been saying he will go after their infrastructure. If he does that, it will be very hard for them to be a sovereign nation. I think a fair fair critique there. Kenneth says. My two concerns are what will twenty million refugees pouring into neighboring countries, Cause I think that's also a very fair thing to be worried about. Do you see any that you want to call out here? 00:08:38 Speaker 6: Well, just there's a lot of variety where they just say the you know, the president, President Trump needs to be tough because a nicer. 00:08:46 Speaker 5: Approach wasn't working. 00:08:48 Speaker 3: Uh yeah. 00:08:50 Speaker 5: Ronda says Trump is crazy like a fox. 00:08:52 Speaker 6: Trust him or live under the threat of forty seven more years of Iran insanity. I love General Patton Trump is the man, I think Bob. 00:09:00 Speaker 3: Bob says, love your show. Everyone needs to take a step back and let this play out. The direction is not predetermined. President Trump will escalate based on the Iranian response or lack of response. Next steps are in the hands of the Iranian leadership in the Iranan people. Strategic hits on the IRGC could change everything for the populace. Okay, fair enough, Paul says. Anyone, especially on the right, that believes Donald Trump would use a nuke or intentionally kill millions of innocent civilians is not maga and never was, says Tucker Carlson and his ILK are traders to America. Well, that's a viewpoint, Julie, Hi, gentlemen, I'll start with the twenty fifth Amendment. Belooney, our courageous president is doing what he should have done decades what should have been done decades ago. He's of sound mind and a critical thinker and strategist. In my non military mind, I believe he's going to destroy as much infrastructure as possible and hit the bad apples as much as militarily as possible. Okay, So listen, there is a new clip here that I want to get out here because I do think it's relevant to the discussion. It's from somebody who kind of knows something. So one of these people that has really come out. Is Mark Kelly. Right, we talked about the siditions six. There's been another Democrat senator that is now calling this war crimes, this war crimes conversation. But Matthew Buckley is a former pilot, a military pilot, and has an interesting critique of Mark Kelly, and I think it's important that we understand this context to seventeen. 00:10:31 Speaker 8: The people frothing at the mouth today clutching their pearls about alleged war crimes. If the president decides to target infrastructure, the first things you do in any air campaign is to target the infrastructure. So the president is actually doing this in reverse. He has avoided targeting infrastructure. Why because he wanted to leave a lot of this stuff intact for the great Iranian people. So all the pearl clutching and the folks like Mark Kelly allegedly Mark Kelly's admitting to committing war crimes when he flew A six is in desert storm because we uplitted, we obliterated their infrastructure. And now he's out there saying, well, if the president does this, it's a war crime. So man, if it wasn't for their double standards, they'd have no standard at all. 00:11:16 Speaker 3: I think that's important. Context it is. 00:11:18 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a frustrating thing because I think even if you oppose this war, some people have immediately leaned into what would be a very left wing framing of it, which is just any escalation, various actions, everything is a war crime, like as he says, infrastructure is something that you target in wartime and well and. 00:11:34 Speaker 3: Mark Kelly himself did yes, and now they're all calling it a war crime. So you know, listen, I want peace, but let's be consistent people and just hold your judgment. America is entering its two hundred and fiftieth year and the direction of this country is being decided right now in our culture and our economy, and who we choose to support matters more than ever. Most wireless companies don't care who who you are or what you believe. They just want your money. 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Or call them at nine seven to two Patriot using the promo code Charlie and switch today. Citizen Cain from Citizen Free Press, Welcome back to the show. Cain. I text you this morning. I was like, Okay, it seems like the entire world is losing its mind this morning. Half the internet thinks Trump's about to drop a nuke on Iran. The other half wants to go twenty fitth Amendment. And meanwhile, we're all waiting for eight pm Eastern because that's the deadline. Nobody knows. So give us the vibe check Kane, what's it like out there at CFP Nation. 00:13:29 Speaker 9: Well, you summarized him pretty well. 00:13:32 Speaker 10: I don't understand exactly why half of Twitter believes that a nuclear o Bahma's coming, and that includes I guess for people who don't know Tucker carl you've probably been talking about it. 00:13:42 Speaker 9: I've been too busy to listen. 00:13:44 Speaker 10: But Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green and others seem to be operating on the idea that a civilization could be wiped out means a nuclear weapon. And I don't you know, Trump uses bombastic language. That's the way I interpret I have at no point in reading any of his true social messages have I gotten the feeling that nuclear bombs are coming. 00:14:07 Speaker 9: I don't know. 00:14:07 Speaker 3: About you guys, but no, I listen. I didn't even jump to that conclusion until I logged on this morning. I was like, wait, people think he's gonna use a nuke. It didn't even occur to me because I just I'm so accustomed to the normal sort of I don't want to call it bluster, but the saber rattling I understand, and Blake pointed this out before, is that he likes to use maximally aggressive language when he's in deal mode, and I just see this as Trump doing a deal. But he did just tell Brett Beher. I got this on the stack, Cane, so thank you for highlighting it for us. That he told Brett Beher that eight pm is absolutely on if they don't come to the table. So I don't think he's bluffing. But I also don't think he wants to, you know, necessarily have to do anything. He doesn't have to escalate beyond this point, but he's willing to. 00:15:01 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I agree with all of that. He's this is the language Trump uses. Uh, we shouldn't be surprised by it. I also never got an inkling of an of anything involving nuclear weapons. 00:15:15 Speaker 9: Part of that, I have this philosophy that I feel. 00:15:17 Speaker 10: Like influencers or influencers slash journalists. They feel like they always have to have something to talk about on Twitter all day long. It's almost as though they've got a twenty four hour show and they've got to fill it. And so I feel like people just sort of naturally get pushed to jumping to conclusions in order, you know, and they and yet they don't you know, I mean, speaking specifically about Tucker. They don't seem to, you know, to qualify their statements by saying, look, Trump has made no comment, you know, along these lines. So I think that's kind of irresponsible, to be honest. The Alex Jones and twenty fifth Amendment stuff you mentioned that is, you know, people haven't seen it. That clip is also in the stack that you know. We know Alex has been against the war, which is his prerogative from the beginning. But and and Barnes, you know, we're discussing how to and it seemed again to be the same, the same misinterpretation. 00:16:10 Speaker 9: You know. 00:16:11 Speaker 10: They they seem to be assuming that Trump's about to drop nukes and so he has to be stopped. And in the case of Alex Jones, he was suggesting a twenty fifth Amendment removal. 00:16:21 Speaker 9: So to me, I'm not you know, the vibe. 00:16:24 Speaker 10: In the stack, the vibe in in the open thread, the you know, the million or so people who visit CFP every day, seems to be trust the president. 00:16:33 Speaker 9: You know, no one is happy about this war. 00:16:35 Speaker 10: No one is looking forward to to the possibility, hopefully it doesn't happen, of ground troops. So This isn't my audience isn't you know, a warmongering audience. But at the same time they're they're willing to allow the president to do his deal making. You know, Trump, I've been thinking, as I'm sure both of you have, I'll finish with this and throw it back. I've been thinking, you know, every time Trump lays down a mini ultimatum, let's call it a fifty percental to mate him a full one. You know, I wonder does he think about how he gets out of this if Iran doesn't buckle. And so that's where I've been doing my analysis, is just trying to see ways out and and you know, now this last part, this, you know, this human shields on the bridges, that's going to add a completely different element to it. 00:17:21 Speaker 9: So I want to hear your guys thoughts. 00:17:22 Speaker 6: I get really on the twenty fifth Amendment thing. What makes me angry about it is you can really sense when people tout that this certain degree of contempt they have for America being a republic with an elected presidency, whether you have concerns with the president's approach or not, I don't think it remotely comes close to the scenario envisioned by the twenty fifth Amendment, which is the president actually being incapacitated, actually incapable. Whatever you think of Trump, he actually is able to understand what. 00:17:55 Speaker 5: He is doing. 00:17:56 Speaker 6: He knows completely he's taking the actions he wants to take as the elected president. You might think it's misguided, you might think it's a mistake, you might think it makes him a bad president, but it's. 00:18:06 Speaker 5: It's not like Joe Biden. 00:18:07 Speaker 6: For example, where you'd have a credible suspicion that he is actually not the president, that he is out of action and other people are making the decisions. 00:18:15 Speaker 3: Formally lucid, he's in control, he's making sense, he's not slurring his words. Like, I don't think that, and that is the point of the twenty fifth Amendment. 00:18:23 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, I mean, the biggest complaints about President Trump is he's doing things he's done before, but more. 00:18:28 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, here's a good example, Kane. Our team dug this up. This is a twenty eighteen tweet from President Trump. He's just because it felt relevant. North Korean leader Kim Jong un just stated that the nuclear button is on his desk at all times. Well, someone from his depleted and few food starved regime. Please inform him that I too have a nuclear button, but it is much bigger and more powerful one than his, and my button works that world. 00:18:56 Speaker 5: The button works. He's all powerful. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: Call them rocketman, and I mean he Trump one point, Oh, we were there was a moment where we were actually and. 00:19:05 Speaker 6: It was the same thing we were said, threat, he's gonna start a nuclear war. 00:19:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, they needed. 00:19:09 Speaker 4: That was when the twenty fifth Amendment things started. 00:19:11 Speaker 3: And now look they're best friends. 00:19:13 Speaker 11: Yeah. 00:19:15 Speaker 4: I can't remember who it was, but one of the one who said, oh JD. 00:19:18 Speaker 6: Van seedms to evoke the twenty fifth and then pick a Democrat as his vice president and then also say he won't run for reelection like these people. 00:19:25 Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw that. I saw that one as well. 00:19:28 Speaker 4: What are they even like, what are they even doing? 00:19:30 Speaker 6: Just come out and say I don't think America should have elections. 00:19:33 Speaker 5: It should have some committee. 00:19:35 Speaker 6: Of experts in DC and they picked the president and they also decide what the constitution means. Like that's what you want. When you say something like that, that is the system you want? 00:19:43 Speaker 3: Well and listen, I can and I want to get your reaction here. But I just feel like the whole Internet discourse right now is missing like an obvious third way here. And it's not like I always look for third ways. I mean, but my here, here's my point. I am not in favor of this war. I would if I would have been in the room, I would have said, let's not I think it's bad politically, we have a nation build to build here at home, Okay, just all cards on the table. That would have been me. But I also don't jump to conclusions when President Trump is saber rattling and when he's negotiating, and when he's doing the rhetorical flourishes as right as he tends to. But here's the point. I can also understand the military and political you know, drive to deal with the Auran threat. I understand it. I'm not sitting here going like this doesn't make sense. There's been no case made. No the case has been made that they were trying to develop a nuke. They've been funding terrorist proxies throughout the Middle East, attacking our troops, attacking our allies. I get it. I I disagree. I would have I would have said, hey, let's pass on this. We don't need any more Middle East wars. But like I just feel like they're the rational middle is getting winnowed away. It's like the inner It turns everybody into the sea galaxy brain, where we just rushed to the most extreme positions possible. What's your take, Ken, Yeah. 00:21:06 Speaker 10: Well, that's sort of what I've been trying to decipher for the nine years that I've running this been running this website, is where that you know, what causes that, what causes the galaxy brain that you just sort of talked about. Blake was obviously correct about the dementia in the twenty fifth Amendment. The original point is sort of incapacitated in no way, shape or form as Trump been incapacitated. In fact, he's probably not sleeping that much over the past five weeks of war, and he seemed more engaged and more focused and more on point, if you know, if that's possible. So I don't see any of that twenty fifth Amendments stuff at all. Regarding the language that Trump used with Kim Jong that you pulled up from twenty eighteen, I love this stuff, I'll be honest. 00:21:47 Speaker 9: I love the fact that the president. 00:21:50 Speaker 10: Uses language like this and that he engages in hyperbole and engages in sort of bombast I think it's Look, it makes it a lot more entertaining. And if you have a brain, if you aren't, if you don't have a panic button inside that you're ready to press on your you know, on your own, then then you're gonna be able to handle this kind of language. Again, I don't really understand what's going on with Marjorie Taylor or Tucker in terms of their extreme reaction. Look, as you said, you may not agree with with the war having started to begin with, and you may not agree with the ultimatum that he reiterated on Saturday, but you know what, the rationale has been laid out there. It's as you said, it's not like we don't know why Trump is doing this, and it more or less makes sense, you know, Aron, It's not like this theocracy has been that stable. So there's there is a good case to be made for this war, whether or not we agree with it. So I just really feel like it's it's a bunch of nannies who are freaking out and don't know how to handle this, And I think we're gonna be fine no matter what happens at APM. 00:22:57 Speaker 3: So Cain, it looks like odds have I've jumped on some of the prediction markets of a regime change not only by April thirtieth, but by December thirty first. So the odds markets seem to indicate that this is probably more and more likely. And Brett Behar is now on the record and we'll play this SOT nineteen saying eight pm is happening. 00:23:21 Speaker 12: I just got off the phone with the president. He called, and I said, listen, if you were to put odds on it, what were the odds that this is going to end up being a negotiated deal. He said he wasn't going to put odds on it, but he said, eight pm is happening. That's what he said. He said, it is if we get to that point, there is going to be an attack like they have not seen. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: So Israeli TV, by the way, we have seen this image going around has a countdown clock Caine counting down to eight pm tonight, which is which is wild. So what yeah, there it is. This is making rounds, which feels a little too excited, maybe by half. But McCain, you know, we go back to this idea that nobody wants this again. I put myself firmly in the anti interventionist camp, but I do believe that you can air in that way as well. This is something Charlie and I used to talk about a lot. You know, if we're gonna if Charlie and I were gonna err, when we're debating, we would air in the anti interventionist camp. Okay, just yeah, you know again. But you know, peace through strength is Trump's mantra, mantra. He's he's saying that he's willing to use this eight PM is gonna happen. What do you think the odds are tonight? 00:24:46 Speaker 10: Well, I would divide it sort of into two, that question into two parts. The first part is what are the odds that any bombing occurs? Versus what are the odds in the green in his reach? I still believe that. Look, let's take this back before I answer that. Let's take this back to what this war is really all about. All around has to do. All the molas have to do is say that they're willing to give up there any aspiration they have for nuclear weapons. It's not that large of an ask. They've now probably lost, probably damages have probably crossed the trillion dollar mark, maybe two trillion in terms of their infrastructure, their petrochemicals, their steel, all of this to hold on to this illusion. And and yet you know what's the craziest part of of their of their dialogue on this is that they claim that this is all for peaceful nuclear energy. So there will you know, whether you believe that or not, this idea that that this entire ward you know is has has come about and the destruction of their industrial base has come about because they're not willing to give it up. So that so first I would say they're the worst deal makers in history. 00:26:00 Speaker 9: So that's I have to caveat that. 00:26:03 Speaker 10: I had to say that in order to sort of analyze the odds for tonight. 00:26:07 Speaker 9: That some deal is reached. 00:26:09 Speaker 10: You know, will they is there is there enough frightening language in Trump's and Trump's true social posts that could get them to actually realize that it's not a good idea, uh, to test this guy, that it's you know, that it's gonna set their nation back. So it's a really really hard question to answer. Under normal circumstances, I would say a deal would be reached. Eighty twenty would be the odds that a deal would be reached before eight pm. But when you're dealing with this group who could so easily have prevented this war or stop this war at any point in the last month and a half by just agreeing to the one basic demand out of the fifteen. 00:26:46 Speaker 9: So I don't have a lot of faith. 00:26:48 Speaker 10: So now it leads to I feel like it's at least fifty to fifty that we're gonna bomb. And then what will that bombing look like? Well, human, these human chains are definitely going to affect the the you know. 00:27:00 Speaker 9: The calculus of this situation. 00:27:01 Speaker 10: There's no way that Trump and Headseth are going to bomb any bridges or any facilities where they where there are any sort of civilians either lined up by their own choice or by coercion. I think that's the problem, right, you don't know. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I'll be honest, I think that that's as I've been sitting here hearing you talk, Kane, I'm sort of convinced that, you know, maybe they might make a different calculation on that point, actually saying if people are willing willingly that's the question though, are they coerced or not? But if they're willing to coorse. 00:27:33 Speaker 10: Or not, you gotta feel like a lot of these people are pushed into it. 00:27:37 Speaker 9: I don't know. 00:27:37 Speaker 10: I would have second thoughts about, you know, someone else posted in the open thread earlier today, what if the entire thing is a ruse. What if we plan to get these power stations and bridges been at a later date and we wanted to draw attention away from a lot of other facilities that we decide to target tonight instead. That would be, you know, a nice little backhanded route. Look, I think Trump is going to be accepted by the base no matter how he handles the bombing tonight. So I guess if I'm gonna throw it back, I'm gonna say the odds are seventy thirty that we're gonna do some bombing at AP. 00:28:09 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:28:10 Speaker 6: I think that's probably about an accurate read. We don't know what it will look like regarding the regimes sanity. I don't know if you remember this, but have you ever heard about what Iran did in the Iran Iraq War when Saddam invaded them? They would clear minefields by sending volunteers across them the Iranians. 00:28:27 Speaker 5: Well, yes, or so the story goes. 00:28:29 Speaker 6: I don't know if there's like video footage of that, but I believe they did that, and it's been a few decades since then, it's not quite the same regime. 00:28:36 Speaker 5: But when you have. 00:28:38 Speaker 9: Really political prisoners, yeah, yeah, you. 00:28:40 Speaker 6: Can send Yeah, you can send prisoners. You can just compel people across, You can use threats against family. Radical regimes can do things we would consider completely unthinkable. We we'll spend hundreds of millions of dollars to rescue one pilot. They'll spend hundreds of lives to clear one minefield. And we've encountered this before. You know, in World War Two, the Japanese, you know, they'd send kamakazis, they would send suicide pilots into things. Really extremist regimes will do things that just catch you off guard with how suicidal they are, and especially in our modern times, we really struggle to relate to that, but we have to remember that people like that exist. 00:29:21 Speaker 3: Well, I want to I want to end this hour just by bringing us back to the basics here, President Trump, we showed you the twenty eighteen tweet that he was willing to use pretty extreme language when dealing with Kim Jong un, and that was actually a potential nuclear conflict, and now they talk at least President Trump talks glowingly about Kim Jong un. Whether that's right or wrong. I mean, he's still a you know, vicious dictator. But the point is is that geopolitically, President Trump uses different tactics. I think, listen, if he drops a nuke on Iran tonight, then I will absolutely call for peachman. I will say I'm the crazy one. I'll do all the things. I don't think that's even in the realm of possibility. He's already denied it. Okay, so I don't understand why everybody's jumped to conclusions. Let this play out. President Trump is doing what he does. This is why he is the elected president. I think he's loocid and in control. Have some patience, have some faith, don't jump to the wildest conclusions, don't let yourself get galaxy brained by social media, and keep your wits about you. If you can keep your head while everybody's losing theirs, then that's a good thing. Caine, final word to you. Ten seconds. 00:30:33 Speaker 9: Well, I'll be watching the Masters. 00:30:38 Speaker 3: I wonder how many people feel exactly like that. 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Nick, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. 00:32:28 Speaker 11: Hey, guys, appreciate you having me, and it's I dare I say happy? 00:32:36 Speaker 2: What was it end of Civilization Day or whatever? 00:32:39 Speaker 3: You're getting right into it now? Well, you know it, ZODDI because I wanted to have you on actually to pivot our attention back to domestic issues, because there's a lot there's a lot of noise being made online. I couldn't help but notice and sort of enjoy that. You know, this whole Frisco takeover by Indian h one Bees has been making the rounds, going viral on X. Meanwhile, uh, there is clip after clip of that I find to be incredibly radicalizing in the best of ways of old city like cities from like you know, in the West, whether it's Boston, New York, Paris, downtown Los Angeles, that are radicalized. So I want to play these with you, Nick, because you've done so much on the ground investigative journalism when it comes to our immigration laws and enforcement deportations, and I think these things are all tied together. So let's just this was the one that made a lot of news. Nick. The Red Sox opening day. This was posted, go up, go ahead and throw up one eighty five. This was posted by the Red Sox, and they had to shut down the comments because it was so radicalizing for people to see the splendor, the cleanliness, the orderliness, the well dressedness of nineteen fifties America before opening day of the Boston Red Sox. I think it was like nineteen they I think it was just nineteen fifties. They didn't specify which year, but I like, in a very visceral sense, this triggered people in a wild way. Blake, do you get triggered watching this? 00:34:16 Speaker 6: Not as much as some people, I do think people, I mean, the biggest tragedy here is that the Red Sox, you know, began winning World Series again. 00:34:24 Speaker 5: So that's what's posted. 00:34:25 Speaker 6: The America I believe in doesn't allow the Red Sox to win. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: The people are okay, let's let's go to New York City nineteen twenty nine. Nick, I know you've spent some time in the city people in eighty six. Look at this no garbage. Look at the dress, how they're dressed. Everybody's just clean. Look at there's not a scrap of trash on the sidewalks, top hats, nothing. Go ahead, Nick, what is what do these clips do for you? 00:34:54 Speaker 2: Honestly? 00:34:55 Speaker 13: Like it feels nostalgic And I wasn't even obviously. 00:35:00 Speaker 11: Alive at the time, right, but it's just it's something that I feel like. You know, the reason that this is so triggering for people, and the reason they have to turn off the comvent sections on that Red Sox post. 00:35:13 Speaker 13: Is because you know, people want this back, and we can get it back through mass deportations, massy natural evations, and you know the I know they feel like they're not allowed to say it, the average American. 00:35:28 Speaker 2: But this is what they want. They don't want to. 00:35:30 Speaker 11: Go up to New York City and feel like that they're going to be you know, women especially just aren't safe in these places anymore. With Third World is around. Look, i mean women can walk around freely New York City back in the day, and I mean. 00:35:45 Speaker 2: The difference is massive. 00:35:48 Speaker 11: This was America's golden age and the only way we get back to that is with mass deportations. 00:35:55 Speaker 2: And that's why you know, when you mentioned. 00:35:58 Speaker 11: When I first came on here that you know, we're not talking enough about domestic policy anymore. That's one hundred percent true. It's one hundred percent truth. That is what is actually, that's what your average American cares about, what's going on at home. How do you think you can bring home or bring down. 00:36:15 Speaker 2: Housing prices and places by New York you. 00:36:18 Speaker 11: Start deporting all of the people that are taking up the housing on government dime. You're competing with the government in these big cities because they are paying rent for illegals that are in the country. I mean, it's pretty simple how we get back to this. 00:36:36 Speaker 2: It's just do we have the will to do it? 00:36:38 Speaker 3: Well, I got one more video for you, Nick, and I think that was really well said. This is Trump posted this on True socials. Well, this is Paris one hundred and twenty six years ago. Some more b roll for you here about the formerly amazingly pristine and orderly Western civilization that we are the inheritors of. And then I want to contrast it with the Mall of America flash forward. This is the Mall of America in twenty twenty six, right there. 00:37:10 Speaker 2: The Mall of Mogadishu. 00:37:11 Speaker 11: You mean, I've been there, unfortunately, because I had to keep going out and buying disguises because I, you know, kept getting chased in the street in Minneapolis, and I basically just everything. I had to come home with like two new suitcases full of clothes because I had to go and buy it at the Mall of Mogadishu. There were no white people at the mall. It's crazy. I made a joke when we were there. I said that the last remaining American relic in this place is the Hooters that sits up above the amusement park down there, and. 00:37:43 Speaker 2: That just closed. So I guess sad like Hooters. 00:37:48 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, a figure I really liked to point to. We mentioned New York, how great it used to look, how it was at its peak, and it seems past its peak. Throw up that chart I just saw. I just say, you, guys, it's something that's really revealing about the realities of immigration, because they say, oh, it brings so much opportunity, it adds so much wealth. The best way to measure how people really feel about immigration is how locals react to it. That's a chart of New York's population change over time. That big red bar you see at the bottom, that is how much people New York lost on net of domestic Americans, So Americans moving into New York and moving now, on net, they lost over one hundred thousand. The only reason New York's population went up is for. 00:38:32 Speaker 5: People having kids. 00:38:33 Speaker 6: And from the light blue bar, which is international migration. This is what you see in New York, it's what you see in Illinois, it's what you see in California. All those states only gain population because foreigners keep flooding in while actual Americans keep leaving. People flee immigration, they run away from the results of it. And that's why you very rapidly have these major cities turning. You look around and everyone foreign because they're changing so rapidly. It's mass importation of replacements from broad mass flight of anyone who was born in America. 00:39:09 Speaker 11: Yeah, and I mean I'm not far away right here. You guys may remember Springfield, Ohio. I'm actually very close to Springfield, Ohio right now, and h and that town is still These people were rejoicing when they heard that the Department of Homeland Security was non renewing temporary protected status that Biden gave all the Haitians that lived there, that the Haitian invaders. And now a federal judge, of course, stepped in and blocked that. And so now I mean they're just they're sitting here just you know, there was some hope that they had that, Okay, Trump is actually going to be able to do this, He's actually going to give us our town back, and the federal judge stepped in and blocked it. I mean, it's it's it's sad that it's not even just places like New York that are suffering under this, You've also got little, cool, little towns like Springfield, Ohio that are suffering because of it. 00:40:01 Speaker 3: It's sad to see, it's really sad to see. And now they're putting forward this so called Dignity Act. Okay, Charlie actually has a tweet about this in twenty twenty five. Go ahead and throw that up, he said, warning they're a handful of Republicans in Congress pushing the so called Dignity Act of twenty twenty five, which would shield illegals from deportations if they've been in the US since before twenty twenty one. Here's the trick. We don't know how, don't know when many or perhaps most illegals enter the US. All they'd have to do is say the magic words, and they'd be allowed to stay. Best case, scenar would be bogged down in the courts forever. Brandon Gill, who we love here on the show, says, make no mistake, the so called Dignity Act is amnesty. It gives amnesty to any illegal alien that crossed the border before twenty twenty one, any illegal married to a US citizen, and also massively expands visa including permanent residents for f one internationals. 00:40:54 Speaker 5: Did they say so? 00:40:55 Speaker 6: First of all, I love this headline from a Texas website. Texas restaurant owners endorse Dignity Act to address. 00:41:01 Speaker 3: So sick of this? 00:41:02 Speaker 5: Correct anytime? 00:41:03 Speaker 6: Restaurant workers home builders are coming out to endorse this and also just the Dignity Act, Like with immigration, how about oh, it's about the dignity of them, how about national dignity, how about the dignity of our border? 00:41:15 Speaker 3: Well, Nick, there they're talking about there's and this is actually I don't think this is a Trump thing. There are people around the president right now saying, don't ever use the word mass deportation again, the thing that we all got so excited to vote for in twenty twenty four. 00:41:31 Speaker 11: Your take, Oh, I've got a lot of takes on all of this. This is like, this is what I would rather be talking about than the war. I'm just saying. So, first of all, a correction for you. It's actually called the Dignity DoD Act. They did it in Spanish. They had the audacity to name the. 00:41:47 Speaker 14: Spanish now and apparently that stands for dignity for immigrants while guarding our nation, to ignite and deliver the American Dream Act of Kenny twenty five, Deliver the American Dream Act. 00:41:59 Speaker 11: How about we deliver the American Dream to you know, Americans first, and then we can talk about helping out people from the rest of the world, right, I mean, people are struggling with now gas prices, you know, grocery prices are still too high. 00:42:14 Speaker 2: Let's focus on that stuff first. You know, you want your kids. 00:42:17 Speaker 11: I don't have kids yet, but I haven't bought a house yet either, right, you know, because housing is just incredibly expensive. So going and delivering the American dream to people that broke into our country illegally is not exactly your. 00:42:33 Speaker 2: Priority of anybody. 00:42:36 Speaker 11: Uh and calling it by part of them is very very misleeting because it's it's pretty much just uh, what's her name, Maria Salazar down there in Florida. Yeah, I mean, like she's the one that was like calling for us to go, that had full on kinetic war with Russia. 00:42:56 Speaker 2: At one point. 00:42:56 Speaker 11: I mean, she's she's not exactly the brightest of them all. But in terms of mass deportations, I'm going to continue using that word. 00:43:04 Speaker 2: I'm going to continue for I will not you will. 00:43:06 Speaker 11: Never hear me say worst of the worst, Okay, because in reality, if we only go after the worst of the worst, that means amnesty for the rest. 00:43:15 Speaker 6: So I think. 00:43:17 Speaker 2: Everybody should be on the table and target everybody. What are we doing? 00:43:23 Speaker 6: And it's so infuriating. They always they've learned their playbook. They come out and they always say this isn't amnesty, it's accountability or whatever. 00:43:30 Speaker 5: And you can read the law. 00:43:31 Speaker 6: I love following this Christian Heinz guy on X because he actually just reads the bills and you can read the Dignidad Act and it'll say the Secretary or Attorney General shall adjust the status of an alien to be lawfully admitted for permanent residents, even if that alien is inadmissible or deportable from the United States. I had to modify the language of it. It's written weird, but it basically says a person who is inadmissible or should be deported, we can declare them a lawful permanent resident. It even says there's no numerical cap on how many people can benefit from this amnesty. So oh, if it turns out there's thirty million people here instead of fifteen million or whatever number they. 00:44:09 Speaker 5: Give, it's too bad. We're stuck with it. 00:44:11 Speaker 6: You even can have convictions that are expunged or set aside, and after that a criminal record is no barrier to legal status. 00:44:19 Speaker 3: You know what is so frustrating about this, And let's just explain what really happens here. This second you give an inch, they will take a mile. And that's why I love what you said about this worst first stuff. Okay, I cannot abide it. You know why, because as soon as you do that, then everybody else thinks that they're the exception to the rule and everybody gets to stay. It is amnesty for the rest. And I cannot stand that. And this is what they do every time they play into the SOB stories and guess what businesses Hospitality Act. They all get in on the act because they don't want to invest in American workers or they don't want to invest in automation. Sorry, I'm down to give us like some you know, sort of moonshit for ag to automate and you know whether that's federal loans or whatever. But we gotta stop getting we gotta get off. We have to wean the country off of cheap foreign like slave labor, or we're never gonna be done with this. We're just gonna completely erase the American culture. We have more to get to you here, Nick, unless you want to chime in. 00:45:18 Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say real quick. 00:45:20 Speaker 11: The one of the strategies that that DNHS had that was very, very effective was squeezing these people out and making them think that all of them were going to yes end up being deported by Ice at some point, and so they would go ahead the self deport That's why the self deportation number was so high. So if you keep telling them that, oh, you're only going after the worst of the worst, that means Sheridan Gorman's killer would have still been allowed in the country because you know, before he wasn't the worst of the worst before he killed her. 00:45:48 Speaker 3: I totally agree. That's such a good point, Nick, such a good point. So, Okay, the Dignitated Dignidad Act total loser, non starter. It's got twenty Republicans, including you know what's its bucket from New York. I just okay, it's not going to happen. Okay, this was an interesting idea that the new DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen proposed, and I think it has some people. Let's talk about this whole issue. We only got two minutes. We've got to hurry up SP twenty four. 00:46:19 Speaker 15: I believe sanctuary cities is not lawful. Some of these cities have international airports. If they are sanctuary cities, should they really be processing customs and to their city. Seriously, if they're a sanctuary city and they're receiving international flights and we're asking them to partner with us at the airport, but once they walk out of the airport, they're not going to enforce immigration policy. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: Maybe we need to have. 00:46:47 Speaker 15: A really hard look at that because we need to focus on cities that want to work with us. 00:46:51 Speaker 3: I think this is a great idea. Let's stick it to the sanctuary cities. But in a deeper level, Nick, I know you're plugged in with with this whole world. What are you hearing about what might be coming next from DHS? 00:47:05 Speaker 11: Well, I mean, I'm definitely giving this secretary moment some time to you know, settle in. Right, we haven't seen any of the big sweeps, and I'm not sure we're going to see any more of those big sweeps like we were seeing in places like Chicago and Minneapolis and Los Angeles and such. And you know, I'm a little concerned about where the numbers are at right now. I mean they're not nearly high enough, guys, And we got to double and triple the number of arrests that are being made per day in this country. 00:47:39 Speaker 2: We're running out of time. That's my concern. 00:47:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's where we're at. I mean, I've been honest with Secretary Mullen. I said, listen, you know, you know you're a friend of the show. You've come on the show. But if we start getting squish on this, then you'll hear criticisms from me. But he is a good man, and he's a friend of the show, and we're rooting for a success. We want commas, not dramas. Listen, if you can stay off the front page and still get lots out, that's huge. But I think your points well made. Nick Sorder independent journalists, Thank you, my friend, Thank Gus. 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I was just lazy over the holidays a while back and didn't shave, and then I had to do a early morning TV thing, expecting a ton of criticism about how scruffy I looked, and instead I got all this positive feedback. 00:50:06 Speaker 2: So I kept going for. 00:50:08 Speaker 16: A little bit. And then the moment the clincher was when I did Don Junior's podcast soon after. And you know, we've known each other for years, and the first thing he said when I came on the zoom was, hey, man, love the magabeard. I don't know is that a thing is? 00:50:23 Speaker 3: Because it's masculine and manly. So I need to do a two by two of Blake and Steve just to two up, maybe off the screen. See this is what this is. I'm seeing a trend here, high. 00:50:37 Speaker 4: Testosterone, virility, facial hair power. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: See this is the MAGA. Look, this is apparently what we're going for. I am I am outclassed. What can I say? Steve, you have now been endorsed by President Trump in your run for governor. I don't know if there's a backstory. I don't know if you want to tell us any of the details how this came about, but I know this was sort of it's very coveted, so tell us about it. 00:51:03 Speaker 16: Well, thank you very much. It was a great honor and a total surprise in terms of its timing. I had no idea that this was going to happen. It was Sunday night, a beautiful last minute Easter Sunday, still on the West Coast where I am when it was. So the first we heard about it was on social media and people were texting me and saying, have you seen this? And so I took a look and amazing, thrilled, texted the President immediately to say thank you, and he called and we had a great conversation. I know him, you know, as he noted in his post, We've known each other for years. I first met him when I interviewed him in the first first term when I was hosting my show on Fox News, and we talk and have kept in touch. So it's a tremendous honor. One thing I want to say, which I haven't said anywhere else, and for obvious reasons, this is the place to say it. Look, I don't you know, I think about Charlie every day. Charlie, of course, endorsed me on day one of my campaign, and I miss him, like we all do so much. And I don't run around saying Charlie would think this, or Charlie would think that, But I just know how happy he he is, because I think of Charlie as being with us, and happy he is. To see this, I know he would really really make him very happy. 00:52:25 Speaker 3: That's a thousand percent I think accurate. And again, we don't want to put words in Charlie's mouth. He's not here with us. But I remember when you announced your run for governor and he was jubilant about it and instantly wanted to endorse you. And he didn't. He didn't think twice. He didn't say, hey, you know, let's line up the other guys in the race and compare and contract. No, he just was Steve's the guy. We're gonna get behind Steve. And you know, people, it's funny. I actually wrote in op ed for the California Post. I was invited to write one on how Charlie loved California, and it was just this. It was a really deep thing. I don't think people understood this, but Charlie was in California a lot. He was speaking there, speaking on campuses. We have a ton of students in California. And he loved the state. He loved how beautiful it was. He loved the people that all like the old communities that really still like anchor that state from a cultural standpoint, from an economic standpoint, and he would always we would land in California, he goes, without fail, it's a shame what they've done to this place, such a beautiful place. It's a shame. 00:53:29 Speaker 16: He always said that he always had this for He said, I have a heart for California. That's what he would always say, and hated to see what they've done to it. But I think that really and as the President sees, I mean, actually the conversation that we had a little we talked a little bit about the campaign and the fact that it's not going to be easy to beat this Democrat machine in California. They've been in pound our sixteen years, one party rule running everything, and they've got totally arrogant and they think they own this state and they're going to be in power forever. They've got a shopcoming. It's it's going to be hard to beat them. But actually this is we talked about that a little bit, but the bulk of our conversation was actually the exciting part here, which is that if we you know, the elections, got the primary in June, general election in November, all goes well, I take office in January. Suddenly you're going to have America's biggest state by far, the biggest economy of all fifty states, the fourth biggest economy in the world. And instead of what you've got now, which is these idiots just constantly fighting the President and his team on the common sense things they're trying to get done, whether that's fighting and stopping fraud, or opening up energy production, or forest management or enforcing immigration, all these things that are just being blocked by Gaven Newsome and the people in charge here. Suddenly you're gonna have a partner in the biggest state to make things happen that are positive. So it's going to be great for California, but also for the whole country, you. 00:54:58 Speaker 3: Know, I mean, it would be incredible. Give us a glimmer of hope here, right because there's a lot of people watching right now, Steve saying this is all great, and you know, how do you win this thing? 00:55:09 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's exactly the right question. So there's a couple of things that make this year different. Number One, the climate of opinion in California really has shifted very negatively against the Democrats. So even in the last governor's race in twenty twenty two, in that basic question as to whether it's going to be a change election where we kick out the incumbents, is the state going on the right track or the wrong track? The wrong track number was under fifty percent. And now you could quibble and say, well, what's wrong with people? It's been going wrong for a long time in California. But still that's the number today, And for the last year or so, it's been very strongly over fifty percent. Sometimes it's highs sixty percent saying the state's going in the wrong direction. So that's new. That's a majority of people want change. Secondly, in a midterm election, it's all about turnout. Charlie knew that. I mean, in fact, with the conversation that I had with Charlie when he said, you know, he asked me to Phoenix when we went, I said, like nearly two years ago to talk about how we would fight this campaign, turnout, change the vote explained everything that you guys have built there, and it's all about the turnout. We've got two unique things on the ballot this year in November, ballot initiatives that have now qualified that will really help drive Republican turnout. Voter ID is going to be on the ballot in California. Whatever happens with the Save America Act, we can vote for it here in California as the result of a ballot initiative. And the second one, I'm more distinctively Californian, save Prop thirteen. Prop thirteen was the original taxpayer revolt, Howard Javis all of that in the late seventies to cap property tax increases. It's been undermined over the years. There's a ballot initiative to restore the taxpayer protections. Republicans differentially love those two initiatives. It's going to help our vote get out. The third factor, look, I've got the Democrat candidates for the last sixteen years in California, where they've been winning everything. You've had a kind of inevitable Democrat governor in waiting. You had eight years of Jerry Brown, eight years of Gavin Newsom. Look at them now, they can't decide. They're in a complete mess. You've got and who are the choices as the president right, they're not sending their best Eric, these are the three who've got a shot of being in the general action. Eric Swolwell, Katie Porter, the billionaire climate fanatic Tom Steyer. That's it. That's who they've got. So that's another one in the fourth one. This is very important as a result of the disastrous mismanagement, highest cost of living, highest unemployment, highest poverty rate, worst business climate. Suddenly, and for the first time in twenty years, the business community in California is really engaged in this. And for years they've drifted along with it, put up with all the nonsense. Now they've had enough. And then you add to that this insane proposed billionaires tax that the unions are pushing, and you've suddenly got the prospect of in a general election, a fair fight between the unions and the Republican candidate backed by the business community. We haven't seen that in twenty years. So I think this is the year you can make something big happen. 00:58:19 Speaker 3: I want to add another number to your list here. You've got this Spencer pract campaign against Carien vass in La where he's running as an angry taxpayer. Everybody's getting excited about that. Could he do it? 00:58:34 Speaker 6: Symbolic He's the one where they said, oh, he's lived in Santa Barbara since their ineptitude let his house burn down. 00:58:41 Speaker 3: Palisades. 00:58:42 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, and yeah, well so that's where he was living. Now he's moved out of round because his house burned down. Right, Well, well you you can't run because we let your house burn down. 00:58:51 Speaker 5: How that works? 00:58:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's insane. 00:58:53 Speaker 16: Spence is great. 00:58:54 Speaker 3: I continue exactly So I was. 00:58:59 Speaker 16: There, funny, iough, it's on the one year anniversity of the fires. We were both speaking at an event in the Palisades. I was literally right back next to the stage, ready to go on, and there was Spencer and he and no one knew he was going to do it. He announced his run for mayor. It was just an such an exciting moment. I was swept away and I endorsed him on the spot. And that's exactly right, angry taxpayer. That's a great summary of what's going on. And that's why I mentioned how A Jarvis in nineteen seventy eight, because we've got the prospect of that kind of taxpayer revolt this year as well across the state and in LA. 00:59:33 Speaker 3: Well, Listen, if there was ever a time we needed you to absolutely pull the golden rabbit out of the hat, it's right now, Steve Hilton. It could be such a huge shot in the arm for the movement, and we just we're so enthusiastically behind you. Final thirty seconds here, Steve, give us an update on the polling. Is it still the two hours ahead? I mean, could we get this weird jungle primary thing you. 00:59:57 Speaker 16: Could do, but it's very unlikely. I've always thought that the machine, the Democrat machine, is gonna get their act together and put put a puppet in there, whether that's swallow Well or Katie Port, whoever it is. I just can't see them just surrendering California. And remember with this top two system in the past, they've been spent, They've spent millions of dollars to elevate a Republican because they're so arrogant and exactly so, I think it's gonna be me against a Democrat, but I think we can beat them this year. 01:00:24 Speaker 3: Steve Hilton, the next governor of the Great State of California, if the soon to be great State of California. Thank you, Steve, God, bless you man. 01:00:31 Speaker 16: Thank you guys, see you soon. 01:00:35 Speaker 3: If you're a parent, you don't need to be told that online safety is important. That's why TikTok has over fifty pre set safety and privacy settings, and beyond that, parents can set up family pairing to help shape their teens experience on the app. With family pairing, parents can get visibility into their teens followers and who they follow, help restrict content that's not right for them, and set screen time limits. 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Top twenty. 01:01:53 Speaker 8: Christianity is more and I don't like the word socialist with the way it carries, but Christianity and is socialism at its core. 01:02:02 Speaker 7: Non authoritarian. 01:02:04 Speaker 3: Well, non authoritarian is I think probably apt right, because so Tucker's point there, I think is fine. But this his guest. I don't know his name either, by the way, if somebody could get me his guest the guest name. But Christianity is not socialist. So a lot of times people look to the Book of Acts and they point out that the early Church was encouraged to share and pool resources together. So this is in the very formative moments of the Church being birthed in Jerusalem. And there's that crazy story where I think it's a Anonias and Saphiro where they get the earth opens up and swallows them because they sold their land and they only gave half to the disciples, and then they kept half for themselves. So people point to these verses, but here's the key differentiator if you actually look at what that is. It was voluntary sharing and pooling of resources. This was not state mandated or sanctioned readers of wealth, which is what socialism is. That is a case I see you not any long. I want to let give you a chance to chime in here too. 01:03:06 Speaker 6: I mean, there's a very fundamental reason that socialism has always manifested as hostile to Christianity everywhere it's meaningfully been implemented Christianity. 01:03:19 Speaker 4: It's like Christianity actually is this like synthesis of different moral impulses. The attack from Nietzsche other critics of Christianity is that it's it's slave morality, that it rides on resentment, that it attacks successful people. But it's actually not what it is is it's offering you the framework for why you should be the strong horse, as it were. 01:03:39 Speaker 6: You should be an innovator, you should be someone who creates, who adds value, but you have moral obligations toward those who are weak, towards those who are helpless, those toward those who are at the least among you. That the best way, as Charlie would say, the best way to be, you know, masculine, a Christian masculine person, is to protect the weak, to help those weaker than you. But you are at the same time, you are not embracing this attitude of we need collective ownership of everything, like it's basically bad to be successful. And that's an important distinction, and I think you can see that because if you look around at America, America is not a nation where we have true poverty in the sense of people starving to death, people living in total emiseration as a result of want. What we have is we actually have people who've become and been trained to be parasitic effectulily. They've been trained to be helpless, they've been trained to live on the dole. People who could be working, and they basically just refuse to. They don't want to, They've gotten addicted to things that keep them from doing so. And that's very different from poverty as it existed in ancient Judea. 01:04:50 Speaker 3: I totally agree with that as a matter of fact, Paul had an admonition for the early Church. He says, for even, and this comes from Second thessalone three ten. Paul says, for even, when we were with you, we would give you this command. If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. So there's a direct admonition in the scriptures to work with your own hands. Paul was a tent maker. Sometimes the church would provide him resources, sometimes he was had to provide his own resources. So there is both things playing out here. Now what I want to get to, and this is the beauty of Christianity. Christianity is saying work with your own hands. If you don't work, you don't eat. So no laziness here, okay, which is a huge problem with socialist economies. But there's another verse here that I think sometimes gets conflated, and that is First Corinthians one twenty six through twenty eight. So for consider your calling, brothers. Not many of you were wise according to worldly standards. Not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise. God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong God chose what is low and despised the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are so. What he's saying is there is an equality within the Kingdom of Heaven. You have dignity before God because you are an image bearer of your creator. But that is not economic equality. The Bible is very pragmatic about the fact that some have much, some have little. We would love for us to voluntarily give our of our wealth to tithe to make sure that we're taking care of the needy, the poor, the downtrodden, the widows, the orphans. That is very, very much. I would say it's one of the core principles of Christianity. In practice of the church, the works of the church. But that's very different than the works of the state. There's no wealth confiscation, there's no seizing the means of production in scriptures, and I know that's communists not socialists, but don't conflate the equalizing of human condition about your worth, about your value. Because God does choose the wise of the foolish things to shame the wise. He does use people that are not of noble birth. He does use lowly things, and that's a beautiful thing about our scriptures. But it also says if you don't work, you don't eat, And so I just want to make sure that we're not conflating these concepts. It's very very easy and very in vogue to sort of say that, you know, Christianity is a socialist thing. And let's just say what it's been done for years? 01:07:25 Speaker 5: What nations have. 01:07:25 Speaker 4: Ever spread christried Ianity around the growth globe. 01:07:28 Speaker 6: It's never been a socialist one. It's always been the ones that are enterprising, the United States, Britain before it, like those are the great missionary nations. 01:07:38 Speaker 5: Actually, there's actually a pretty big connection. 01:07:40 Speaker 6: I would say between you might call it the capitalist ethos and the missionary ethos that you are. You go out, you create your own thing, You try to change the world, you try to add value, you try. 01:07:52 Speaker 4: To build things. Socialism is very hostile to that. 01:07:55 Speaker 6: There's nothing that encourages you to build in socialism and encourages you to take it, encourage you to feel entitled, It encourages you to stagnate, and nothing ever changes the world with that attitude. 01:08:06 Speaker 3: Amen, just wanted to hit that here as we say goodbye from the Charlie Kirk show. We will see you tomorrow. It's a big night tonight. We'll have updates tomorrow. 01:08:19 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com