Ken Moser 2012 Session 3
Series: Mega Surge
Speaker: Ken Moser
Date: 2nd June 2012
00:00:00 --> 00:00:04 I've just written a paper that is going to go on the Youth Surge website.
00:00:04 --> 00:00:06 I hope that you know that there's a Youth Surge website.
00:00:06 --> 00:00:08 It's called youthsurge.com.au.
00:00:09 --> 00:00:13 I have a website in America called effectiveyouthministry.com.
00:00:14 --> 00:00:16 It's not effectiveym.com.
00:00:16 --> 00:00:16 Be careful.
00:00:16 --> 00:00:21 They're the speed water into a bucket guys and smack each other with all the newspaper.
00:00:22 --> 00:00:26 Effectiveyouthministry.com, where I every week just post youth ministry thoughts.
00:00:26 --> 00:00:30 They're designed for the leadership team to download, read, and discuss.
00:00:32 --> 00:00:33 And there's going to be a long paper.
00:00:33 --> 00:00:36 I'm giving it in Melbourne at this conference on, you know,
00:00:36 --> 00:00:39 do we think pragmatically in youth ministry or do we think theologically?
00:00:40 --> 00:00:43 And so you've got to really think through that because the Americans are pragmatists.
00:00:44 --> 00:00:48 The Americans say, how do we get kids in the door?
00:00:49 --> 00:00:50 That's what they think.
00:00:51 --> 00:00:53 That's not a theological way to think.
00:00:53 --> 00:00:54 It's not an Australian way to think.
00:00:54 --> 00:00:58 We want to think, what does God want us to do?
00:00:58 --> 00:01:00 That's way more important.
00:01:00 --> 00:01:02 So let's think theologically.
00:01:02 --> 00:01:05 Let's think with our Bibles open.
00:01:06 --> 00:01:10 Now, if this was a 40-hour class, we'd spend a whole bunch of time in the Bible.
00:01:11 --> 00:01:15 And so, unfortunately, I've got to rush through some really good God stuff,
00:01:16 --> 00:01:18 which is frustrating for all of us.
00:01:19 --> 00:01:20 But here is a key passage.
00:01:20 --> 00:01:27 To me, this is a central passage in thinking through youth ministry.
00:01:27 --> 00:01:28 It's well known.
00:01:29 --> 00:01:30 1 Corinthians 3.
00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 And God says here, Paul says here,
00:01:34 --> 00:01:35 By the grace God gives me,
00:01:37 --> 00:01:39 I laid a foundation as an expert building in somebody else's building.
00:01:40 --> 00:01:42 Paul goes to Corinth.
00:01:42 --> 00:01:43 He does evangelism.
00:01:44 --> 00:01:46 People become Christians and he leaves.
00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 So he was the expert builder.
00:01:51 --> 00:01:53 And he built this church.
00:01:54 --> 00:01:54 And he says,
00:01:54 --> 00:01:56 But each one should be careful how he builds.
00:01:57 --> 00:02:00 For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
00:02:01 --> 00:02:02 So it's all about Jesus.
00:02:02 --> 00:02:03 That's why we're doing it.
00:02:04 --> 00:02:06 You're preaching Jesus, teaching Jesus,
00:02:06 --> 00:02:07 helping people to love Jesus,
00:02:07 --> 00:02:09 helping people to love each other because of Jesus.
00:02:09 --> 00:02:10 The whole thing is about Jesus.
00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 If any man builds on this foundation,
00:02:13 --> 00:02:15 he's in gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, and straw.
00:02:15 --> 00:02:17 His work will be shown for what it is
00:02:17 --> 00:02:20 because the day will bring it to light.
00:02:22 --> 00:02:23 You're building a house.
00:02:23 --> 00:02:25 Paul says you've got two piles.
00:02:25 --> 00:02:28 Gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, and straw.
00:02:29 --> 00:02:30 Now be clear on this.
00:02:30 --> 00:02:31 In that culture,
00:02:31 --> 00:02:35 you are not going to build a house with gold, silver, costly stones.
00:02:36 --> 00:02:37 It's absurd.
00:02:38 --> 00:02:40 You're going to build a house with wood, hay, or straw.
00:02:40 --> 00:02:42 Like today.
00:02:43 --> 00:02:44 And so Paul says be careful
00:02:44 --> 00:02:47 because there's some really obvious stuff to build with
00:02:47 --> 00:02:49 and it's the wrong stuff.
00:02:51 --> 00:02:53 There's other stuff to build
00:02:53 --> 00:02:56 that you may not even occur to you to build with.
00:02:56 --> 00:02:57 But that's what you're going to build with
00:02:57 --> 00:02:59 because you're actually building a temple.
00:03:00 --> 00:03:02 And you don't build a temple with just straw.
00:03:02 --> 00:03:03 You build a temple with gold.
00:03:04 --> 00:03:05 And so he says,
00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 if anything builds on this foundation with these things,
00:03:08 --> 00:03:09 his work will be shown.
00:03:09 --> 00:03:11 The day will bring it to light.
00:03:11 --> 00:03:12 That's the day of judgment.
00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 It will be revealed with fire.
00:03:15 --> 00:03:17 And the fire will test the quality of each man's work.
00:03:18 --> 00:03:22 So God is going to send the judgment fires on our youth ministries.
00:03:22 --> 00:03:27 So I was with these two awesome ladies for six years at Oakhurst.
00:03:27 --> 00:03:30 Just a tremendous blessing in my life.
00:03:30 --> 00:03:33 I learned so much about youth ministry at Oakhurst.
00:03:33 --> 00:03:36 It was the most fruitful time in my life
00:03:36 --> 00:03:39 for thinking and writing and strategizing
00:03:39 --> 00:03:41 for all sorts of great reasons.
00:03:42 --> 00:03:44 And I'm obviously a lot older than them.
00:03:45 --> 00:03:46 And I'm going to die.
00:03:46 --> 00:03:49 I'm going to go to heaven.
00:03:49 --> 00:03:52 And I think what this passage is saying
00:03:52 --> 00:03:55 is that in some weird way,
00:03:55 --> 00:03:57 God is going to bring my youth group to heaven.
00:03:58 --> 00:04:00 And in my judgment,
00:04:00 --> 00:04:02 I'm going to be surrounded by these youth group kids.
00:04:03 --> 00:04:04 Lonnie's going to be there.
00:04:05 --> 00:04:06 Siara's going to be there.
00:04:06 --> 00:04:07 I don't know how it's going to work.
00:04:07 --> 00:04:08 It's kind of weird.
00:04:08 --> 00:04:11 But suddenly God is going to test them.
00:04:14 --> 00:04:19 And if they stand, I stand.
00:04:19 --> 00:04:23 If they are burned up, I suffer loss.
00:04:23 --> 00:04:23 Verse 15.
00:04:24 --> 00:04:26 He's going to test the quality of each man's work.
00:04:27 --> 00:04:28 If what he's built survives, he receives reward.
00:04:28 --> 00:04:31 If it's burned up, he will suffer loss.
00:04:31 --> 00:04:32 He himself will be saved,
00:04:33 --> 00:04:35 but only as one escaping through the flames.
00:04:35 --> 00:04:37 I'm going to go to heaven no matter what
00:04:37 --> 00:04:38 because I trust in Jesus.
00:04:38 --> 00:04:39 Jesus has taken my sins.
00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 But if I've run this youth group called, you know,
00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 Spew Squad,
00:04:45 --> 00:04:47 and we've just covered ourselves with marshmallows
00:04:47 --> 00:04:48 every week,
00:04:49 --> 00:04:51 and we've done weird things with toothpicks.
00:04:51 --> 00:04:53 By the way, if it involves a toothpick,
00:04:53 --> 00:04:54 you don't do it in youth ministry.
00:04:54 --> 00:04:55 It's a rule.
00:04:56 --> 00:05:00 Eggs, shaving cream, toothpicks at all costs.
00:05:01 --> 00:05:03 We try to toothpick thing in youth group.
00:05:03 --> 00:05:05 Even though we've been in youth ministry 30 years,
00:05:05 --> 00:05:06 just a few months ago, it was dreadful.
00:05:06 --> 00:05:10 And that was the same night we tried memory verse tennis,
00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 where you had to hit and say the memory verse.
00:05:13 --> 00:05:14 We thought it was such a good idea.
00:05:15 --> 00:05:19 You know when it's death from the minute the activity starts?
00:05:19 --> 00:05:21 And we're like, oh, this is awful.
00:05:21 --> 00:05:23 So even in 30 years, we still get it wrong.
00:05:23 --> 00:05:26 Anyway, I'll still be saved,
00:05:26 --> 00:05:29 but only there's one escaping.
00:05:29 --> 00:05:31 Now this passage, man,
00:05:31 --> 00:05:35 it revolves on those nine words.
00:05:35 --> 00:05:37 Two, four, six, eight, nine.
00:05:37 --> 00:05:38 Be careful.
00:05:39 --> 00:05:40 Be careful.
00:05:42 --> 00:05:44 When you buy a youth ministry book,
00:05:44 --> 00:05:45 be careful.
00:05:46 --> 00:05:48 When you read my stuff,
00:05:49 --> 00:05:49 be careful.
00:05:49 --> 00:05:52 When you put a program together,
00:05:52 --> 00:05:53 be careful.
00:05:54 --> 00:05:55 Because you are building on Jesus,
00:05:56 --> 00:05:58 you're building God's temple.
00:05:58 --> 00:06:01 Are you using gold?
00:06:02 --> 00:06:07 So here's one simple barometer for your youth group.
00:06:07 --> 00:06:08 Something I've learned in a long time.
00:06:09 --> 00:06:10 Does your youth group pray?
00:06:11 --> 00:06:12 If your youth group prays,
00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 that's a really good barometer for your youth ministry.
00:06:16 --> 00:06:17 If I come to your youth group,
00:06:18 --> 00:06:19 and you open with prayer,
00:06:19 --> 00:06:21 and there's a prayer time involved,
00:06:21 --> 00:06:23 and when the leader says,
00:06:23 --> 00:06:24 hey guys, we're going to pray,
00:06:24 --> 00:06:25 what can we pray for?
00:06:25 --> 00:06:26 And kids say,
00:06:26 --> 00:06:28 could we pray for whatever?
00:06:28 --> 00:06:31 That is a real sign of health.
00:06:31 --> 00:06:32 And that says to me
00:06:32 --> 00:06:36 that there's a real serious building with gold here.
00:06:36 --> 00:06:38 When you say to your youth group,
00:06:38 --> 00:06:39 okay, grab your Bibles.
00:06:39 --> 00:06:41 So I was at the youth group here last night,
00:06:41 --> 00:06:43 and one of the leaders who's here said,
00:06:43 --> 00:06:44 okay, everybody get a Bible.
00:06:44 --> 00:06:45 What did the kids do?
00:06:46 --> 00:06:46 They all went and got a Bible.
00:06:48 --> 00:06:49 Okay, we're going to turn to Mark 14.
00:06:49 --> 00:06:50 They open up to Mark 14.
00:06:51 --> 00:06:53 That is a real sign of gold
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 being woven and built,
00:06:56 --> 00:06:57 and this program is just,
00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 oh, I think, fantastic.
00:06:59 --> 00:07:01 That's a healthy barometer.
00:07:02 --> 00:07:03 When do the kids groan?
00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 Oh, that's a real indicator
00:07:08 --> 00:07:09 that something's,
00:07:09 --> 00:07:11 okay, we're going to play a game now
00:07:11 --> 00:07:12 if they go, oh,
00:07:13 --> 00:07:14 they're saying something.
00:07:14 --> 00:07:15 Or if you say, hey,
00:07:15 --> 00:07:16 we're going to have a prayer time now
00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 and if the kids go, oh,
00:07:18 --> 00:07:19 we want to keep playing the game,
00:07:20 --> 00:07:21 that's a real sign.
00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 So Paul says, build with gold.
00:07:25 --> 00:07:27 Build with gold.
00:07:28 --> 00:07:29 Now here's another one.
00:07:30 --> 00:07:32 This to me is just a fantastic passage.
00:07:32 --> 00:07:33 You know it.
00:07:33 --> 00:07:34 It's a real famous passage.
00:07:34 --> 00:07:35 It's at the end of Acts 2.
00:07:36 --> 00:07:38 Luke, the historian,
00:07:38 --> 00:07:40 gives us kind of a summary passage.
00:07:40 --> 00:07:41 He does it a few times
00:07:41 --> 00:07:42 in the book of Acts.
00:07:43 --> 00:07:44 And he says,
00:07:45 --> 00:07:47 just to sum up this wacko,
00:07:47 --> 00:07:50 amazing, fantastic time
00:07:50 --> 00:07:50 in the early church
00:07:50 --> 00:07:52 where there was Pentecost
00:07:52 --> 00:07:53 and all this outpouring
00:07:53 --> 00:07:54 of the Holy Spirit
00:07:54 --> 00:07:55 and thousands of people
00:07:55 --> 00:07:56 became Christians
00:07:56 --> 00:07:58 and it was just amazing.
00:07:58 --> 00:07:59 He sums it up by saying,
00:08:00 --> 00:08:01 this stuff.
00:08:01 --> 00:08:03 Template.
00:08:03 --> 00:08:05 You are looking at a template
00:08:05 --> 00:08:06 for youth ministry.
00:08:06 --> 00:08:07 Right there.
00:08:07 --> 00:08:08 Notice what they were.
00:08:09 --> 00:08:09 They were devoted
00:08:09 --> 00:08:11 to Bible study.
00:08:12 --> 00:08:12 They were devoted
00:08:12 --> 00:08:13 to fellowship.
00:08:14 --> 00:08:15 The word there is
00:08:15 --> 00:08:16 koinonia or koinonia.
00:08:17 --> 00:08:18 We have cheapened
00:08:18 --> 00:08:19 the word fellowship
00:08:19 --> 00:08:21 in youth ministry.
00:08:21 --> 00:08:21 We have,
00:08:22 --> 00:08:24 what people do culturally
00:08:24 --> 00:08:25 is they take a really good word
00:08:25 --> 00:08:26 and they hijack it.
00:08:27 --> 00:08:27 The word gay,
00:08:27 --> 00:08:29 it's a really good word.
00:08:29 --> 00:08:32 Like it's rich in meaning
00:08:32 --> 00:08:33 but you can't say it anymore.
00:08:33 --> 00:08:34 It's been twisted.
00:08:35 --> 00:08:35 And we've done
00:08:35 --> 00:08:36 a similar thing
00:08:36 --> 00:08:36 with fellowship.
00:08:37 --> 00:08:38 We call things fellowship
00:08:38 --> 00:08:39 that aren't fellowship.
00:08:40 --> 00:08:42 Fellowship is relating
00:08:42 --> 00:08:43 to a person
00:08:43 --> 00:08:45 because of the cross of Christ.
00:08:45 --> 00:08:48 So I am deep friends
00:08:48 --> 00:08:48 with Ciara
00:08:48 --> 00:08:50 not because we just connect
00:08:50 --> 00:08:51 and we like the same stuff
00:08:51 --> 00:08:53 and we just personality-wise
00:08:53 --> 00:08:53 get along.
00:08:53 --> 00:08:54 That's true.
00:08:54 --> 00:08:55 But it's because
00:08:55 --> 00:08:56 of the cross of Christ.
00:08:56 --> 00:08:58 I relate to her
00:08:58 --> 00:09:00 through Jesus
00:09:00 --> 00:09:01 which means
00:09:01 --> 00:09:02 much more deep.
00:09:02 --> 00:09:03 I'm going to care for her.
00:09:04 --> 00:09:04 I'm going to love her.
00:09:05 --> 00:09:05 I'm going to be with her,
00:09:06 --> 00:09:07 mourn when she's mourning,
00:09:07 --> 00:09:08 rejoice when she's rejoicing.
00:09:08 --> 00:09:10 I'm going to admonish her.
00:09:10 --> 00:09:10 I'm going to rebuke her.
00:09:11 --> 00:09:12 I'm going to warn her.
00:09:12 --> 00:09:14 I'm going to study the Bible with her.
00:09:14 --> 00:09:15 It's this awesome term.
00:09:15 --> 00:09:15 That's fellowship.
00:09:16 --> 00:09:17 That's what they were devoted to.
00:09:18 --> 00:09:19 They were devoted to
00:09:19 --> 00:09:20 possibly communion,
00:09:21 --> 00:09:21 possibly meals.
00:09:22 --> 00:09:22 People disagree.
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 And they were devoted to prayer.
00:09:25 --> 00:09:27 Wow, what a great
00:09:27 --> 00:09:28 youth group image right there.
00:09:29 --> 00:09:30 Everybody looks in and says,
00:09:30 --> 00:09:32 woo, amazing.
00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 And the apostles were doing
00:09:34 --> 00:09:35 great stuff.
00:09:35 --> 00:09:36 People getting healed.
00:09:37 --> 00:09:38 They spent a lot of time together.
00:09:39 --> 00:09:40 Notice that in verse 44.
00:09:41 --> 00:09:42 They had a lot of commonality together.
00:09:43 --> 00:09:44 People kind of wrestle with that.
00:09:44 --> 00:09:44 What does it mean?
00:09:45 --> 00:09:46 Does it mean physical stuff?
00:09:46 --> 00:09:46 Does it mean attitudinally?
00:09:47 --> 00:09:48 Does it mean doctrinally?
00:09:48 --> 00:09:53 I think it means they were thinking
00:09:53 --> 00:09:54 of one mind and spirit.
00:09:54 --> 00:09:55 And they, verse 45,
00:09:55 --> 00:09:56 they shared their stuff.
00:09:57 --> 00:09:58 Generosity.
00:09:59 --> 00:10:00 They met a lot.
00:10:01 --> 00:10:01 Verse 46.
00:10:02 --> 00:10:04 Big group, small group.
00:10:04 --> 00:10:06 Big group in the temple courts,
00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 small group eating together in the homes.
00:10:10 --> 00:10:12 They spent a lot of time praising God.
00:10:13 --> 00:10:14 People looked in and said,
00:10:14 --> 00:10:15 you guys are awesome right here.
00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 And they grew.
00:10:19 --> 00:10:20 Amazing passage.
00:10:20 --> 00:10:21 Amazing passage.
00:10:22 --> 00:10:24 And so I look at that and I say,
00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 okay, that informs my thinking
00:10:26 --> 00:10:28 in what I want to do.
00:10:28 --> 00:10:30 That is a list of activities.
00:10:31 --> 00:10:32 It's not a list of doctrines.
00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 I must believe that Jesus is X.
00:10:35 --> 00:10:36 That's really good.
00:10:36 --> 00:10:37 I love doctrine.
00:10:37 --> 00:10:37 I'm a doctrine guy.
00:10:38 --> 00:10:39 But this is a list of activities.
00:10:40 --> 00:10:41 So I read that and I think,
00:10:41 --> 00:10:42 okay, if I do that,
00:10:42 --> 00:10:42 I'm building with gold.
00:10:43 --> 00:10:45 And I want to think theologically.
00:10:46 --> 00:10:47 And I want to take those activities
00:10:47 --> 00:10:49 and put them into place in my youth group.
00:10:50 --> 00:10:51 And so how do I do that?
00:10:52 --> 00:10:52 That's the question.
00:10:53 --> 00:10:54 That's where we're going right now.
00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 So I'm going to build my youth program
00:10:57 --> 00:10:58 on three pillars.
00:10:59 --> 00:11:01 So those of you who need a model of youth ministry,
00:11:01 --> 00:11:02 here it comes.
00:11:02 --> 00:11:07 For those of you who know my stuff,
00:11:07 --> 00:11:08 this is a little bit,
00:11:10 --> 00:11:12 I'm taking build, reach, and flow.
00:11:12 --> 00:11:13 If you don't know what I'm talking about,
00:11:13 --> 00:11:13 don't worry about it.
00:11:13 --> 00:11:15 I'm taking build, reach, and flow
00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 and I'm trying to work it a little bit,
00:11:17 --> 00:11:19 make it a little bit thicker.
00:11:20 --> 00:11:21 So build, reach, and flow fits into this.
00:11:21 --> 00:11:24 We're not going to talk much about build, reach, and flow today.
00:11:24 --> 00:11:24 You can read about it.
00:11:26 --> 00:11:28 But I want to build my house on three pillars.
00:11:28 --> 00:11:31 And this is real obvious stuff,
00:11:31 --> 00:11:32 but I'm telling you,
00:11:32 --> 00:11:34 the more I think about it,
00:11:34 --> 00:11:35 I think it changes everything.
00:11:36 --> 00:11:36 I think it changes everything.
00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 Our pillar number one is we're a Christian youth group.
00:11:41 --> 00:11:43 When I came to Australia,
00:11:43 --> 00:11:45 I immediately fell in love with Australia.
00:11:46 --> 00:11:47 It changed my life.
00:11:48 --> 00:11:49 But I didn't get Australia.
00:11:50 --> 00:11:53 I didn't get Australia until I got cricket.
00:11:53 --> 00:11:55 I won't bore you with the story,
00:11:55 --> 00:12:00 but it was during beach mission season.
00:12:00 --> 00:12:01 All my friends had gone.
00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 I was going so insane
00:12:03 --> 00:12:04 that I turned on Channel 9 and watched the cricket.
00:12:05 --> 00:12:07 For an American, that's insanity.
00:12:08 --> 00:12:10 And over the course of five days,
00:12:11 --> 00:12:15 and a lot of phone calls,
00:12:16 --> 00:12:17 what's a Googly, what's a Yorker,
00:12:17 --> 00:12:18 you know,
00:12:18 --> 00:12:22 everything opened up.
00:12:23 --> 00:12:26 I understood so much about Australia
00:12:26 --> 00:12:28 that just led to a whole bunch of thinking
00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 and led to quite a deep desire
00:12:30 --> 00:12:31 for me to become an Australian.
00:12:33 --> 00:12:35 Now I'm trying to wrestle with hockey.
00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 Hockey's a really weird sport.
00:12:39 --> 00:12:39 I don't get it.
00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 Like, you lose your teeth when you play.
00:12:44 --> 00:12:45 It just seems like,
00:12:45 --> 00:12:46 welcome to the hockey team,
00:12:46 --> 00:12:48 you won't be needing those anymore.
00:12:48 --> 00:12:49 LAUGHTER
00:12:49 --> 00:12:56 But our college has a gym.
00:12:57 --> 00:12:58 It's in a balcony.
00:12:58 --> 00:13:00 I'm doing the elliptical
00:13:00 --> 00:13:01 because I'm really not good
00:13:01 --> 00:13:02 at anything else these days.
00:13:02 --> 00:13:05 If it involves a heavy object, forget it.
00:13:05 --> 00:13:06 So I just do this.
00:13:06 --> 00:13:06 Woo!
00:13:07 --> 00:13:08 And I watch the hockey
00:13:08 --> 00:13:11 because every institution in Australia
00:13:11 --> 00:13:12 has to have a hockey rink,
00:13:12 --> 00:13:13 in Canada,
00:13:13 --> 00:13:14 has to have a hockey rink.
00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 So I'm watching hockey.
00:13:17 --> 00:13:19 And then there'll be a hockey match.
00:13:20 --> 00:13:21 And I'm watching the parents.
00:13:22 --> 00:13:24 And I'm watching the coach.
00:13:24 --> 00:13:25 Now I don't know if you know hockey.
00:13:25 --> 00:13:26 I never knew this.
00:13:26 --> 00:13:28 But the team doesn't stay out
00:13:28 --> 00:13:29 for longer than 90 seconds.
00:13:29 --> 00:13:32 So you have four guys race out.
00:13:33 --> 00:13:34 And it's so fast
00:13:34 --> 00:13:35 that they hyperventilate.
00:13:36 --> 00:13:37 And they come back in
00:13:37 --> 00:13:38 and four more guys goes out.
00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 And they have four sets of four guys.
00:13:41 --> 00:13:42 Is that right, Josh?
00:13:42 --> 00:13:42 It's four sets.
00:13:42 --> 00:13:44 Five sets of four guys.
00:13:44 --> 00:13:44 Four sets of five guys.
00:13:44 --> 00:13:45 Four sets of five guys.
00:13:45 --> 00:13:46 Who go out.
00:13:46 --> 00:13:47 And I never pick that up.
00:13:48 --> 00:13:49 And so I'm watching it.
00:13:49 --> 00:13:50 Now what I'm watching
00:13:50 --> 00:13:54 is a brutal, sweaty, hard sport.
00:13:54 --> 00:13:55 That's what I'm watching.
00:13:56 --> 00:13:57 And the parents are into it.
00:13:58 --> 00:13:59 And the kids,
00:13:59 --> 00:14:00 they sit in this bench thing
00:14:00 --> 00:14:02 right next to the ice.
00:14:02 --> 00:14:03 And they just lean up.
00:14:03 --> 00:14:04 And whenever something good happens,
00:14:04 --> 00:14:05 they pound on the thing.
00:14:05 --> 00:14:06 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 And they're eager to go out.
00:14:08 --> 00:14:09 And I think,
00:14:09 --> 00:14:10 here's a group of young people
00:14:10 --> 00:14:12 who are really committed
00:14:12 --> 00:14:14 to something that's sweaty,
00:14:14 --> 00:14:16 uncomfortable, toothless.
00:14:16 --> 00:14:17 Other parts of your anatomy
00:14:17 --> 00:14:18 will take a puck.
00:14:19 --> 00:14:20 And so it's like,
00:14:20 --> 00:14:22 oh, this is bizarre.
00:14:23 --> 00:14:24 So I think, okay.
00:14:25 --> 00:14:26 I have a nephew.
00:14:27 --> 00:14:29 I take my nephew to hockey.
00:14:29 --> 00:14:30 And I say,
00:14:30 --> 00:14:31 hello, hockey coach.
00:14:32 --> 00:14:32 My nephew's a little bit
00:14:32 --> 00:14:33 interested in hockey.
00:14:34 --> 00:14:35 Hockey coach says,
00:14:35 --> 00:14:35 great.
00:14:36 --> 00:14:37 We'd love to have him.
00:14:38 --> 00:14:38 And I say,
00:14:38 --> 00:14:39 yeah, but I don't think
00:14:39 --> 00:14:40 he wants to afford hockey.
00:14:40 --> 00:14:40 I don't know.
00:14:40 --> 00:14:41 I think he's a bit scared.
00:14:41 --> 00:14:43 Could you play some games
00:14:43 --> 00:14:44 that don't have anything
00:14:44 --> 00:14:45 to do with hockey
00:14:45 --> 00:14:46 to kind of ease them
00:14:46 --> 00:14:47 into hockey?
00:14:48 --> 00:14:48 Like, could you play
00:14:48 --> 00:14:49 Honey, If You Love Me,
00:14:49 --> 00:14:49 Smile?
00:14:50 --> 00:14:51 Even though I know
00:14:51 --> 00:14:51 you guys can't smile.
00:14:56 --> 00:14:59 What would the coach do?
00:15:00 --> 00:15:02 What would the coach do
00:15:02 --> 00:15:04 if I said to him,
00:15:04 --> 00:15:06 can you do things
00:15:06 --> 00:15:07 other than hockey
00:15:07 --> 00:15:09 to be attractive
00:15:09 --> 00:15:10 to the non-hockey player?
00:15:12 --> 00:15:13 It is an unknown concept
00:15:13 --> 00:15:14 to hockey players.
00:15:14 --> 00:15:15 Now, I hope you're tracking
00:15:15 --> 00:15:15 with me because
00:15:15 --> 00:15:16 this is super important.
00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 Think glee club.
00:15:21 --> 00:15:22 Don't think glee club.
00:15:22 --> 00:15:23 Think chess club.
00:15:23 --> 00:15:24 By the way,
00:15:24 --> 00:15:24 you know that glee clubs
00:15:24 --> 00:15:25 sing glees?
00:15:26 --> 00:15:26 That's why they're called
00:15:26 --> 00:15:27 glee clubs.
00:15:27 --> 00:15:27 I never knew that.
00:15:27 --> 00:15:27 Anyway,
00:15:28 --> 00:15:30 it comes from the 1700s.
00:15:32 --> 00:15:33 If I go to a chess club,
00:15:34 --> 00:15:35 which, by the way,
00:15:35 --> 00:15:36 you will never see me
00:15:36 --> 00:15:36 in a chess club.
00:15:36 --> 00:15:37 I'm not knocking
00:15:37 --> 00:15:37 those of you
00:15:37 --> 00:15:38 who are in chess clubs.
00:15:38 --> 00:15:38 I'm just...
00:15:38 --> 00:15:40 But if I go to a chess club,
00:15:41 --> 00:15:42 I'm not going to expect
00:15:42 --> 00:15:43 to do a lot of things
00:15:43 --> 00:15:44 other than play chess,
00:15:45 --> 00:15:46 get thicker glasses
00:15:46 --> 00:15:47 and a calculator
00:15:47 --> 00:15:48 in my front pocket.
00:15:49 --> 00:15:50 Just joking.
00:15:52 --> 00:15:53 I'm going to expect
00:15:53 --> 00:15:53 to play chess.
00:15:55 --> 00:15:56 If a chess club
00:15:56 --> 00:15:57 wants to grow numerically,
00:15:58 --> 00:15:58 what are they going to do?
00:16:01 --> 00:16:01 They're going to play chess.
00:16:02 --> 00:16:04 It wouldn't even occur
00:16:04 --> 00:16:05 to them to say,
00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 let's do non-chess activities
00:16:08 --> 00:16:09 to grow.
00:16:09 --> 00:16:10 Wouldn't even occur to them.
00:16:10 --> 00:16:12 Okay, let's keep going.
00:16:12 --> 00:16:13 So what I want to think through
00:16:13 --> 00:16:14 is we're a Christian group.
00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 That is who we are.
00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 We are unashamedly
00:16:19 --> 00:16:20 marked by our love
00:16:20 --> 00:16:21 for Jesus Christ.
00:16:22 --> 00:16:23 There will be people
00:16:23 --> 00:16:24 who don't want to join us.
00:16:24 --> 00:16:25 There were people
00:16:25 --> 00:16:26 who didn't want
00:16:26 --> 00:16:26 to follow Jesus.
00:16:27 --> 00:16:27 There were people
00:16:27 --> 00:16:29 that Jesus healed
00:16:29 --> 00:16:30 that didn't follow Jesus.
00:16:31 --> 00:16:33 It's mind-boggling.
00:16:33 --> 00:16:34 I can't figure that out.
00:16:35 --> 00:16:35 Why would you not
00:16:35 --> 00:16:36 want to follow Jesus?
00:16:37 --> 00:16:37 Didn't want to.
00:16:38 --> 00:16:39 Didn't want to.
00:16:40 --> 00:16:41 And so there's going to be
00:16:41 --> 00:16:42 a whole market share
00:16:42 --> 00:16:43 that just quite frankly
00:16:43 --> 00:16:44 doesn't want to be Christian,
00:16:44 --> 00:16:45 doesn't want to follow us.
00:16:45 --> 00:16:46 But we are going to be
00:16:46 --> 00:16:47 a Christian youth group.
00:16:47 --> 00:16:48 And that's going to be
00:16:48 --> 00:16:49 what marks us.
00:16:50 --> 00:16:50 It's going to be
00:16:50 --> 00:16:53 really, really obvious.
00:16:53 --> 00:16:54 That's our first pillar.
00:16:54 --> 00:16:55 And there's a whole bunch
00:16:55 --> 00:16:56 of Bible passages
00:16:56 --> 00:16:56 we can look at,
00:16:57 --> 00:16:58 but we looked at this
00:16:58 --> 00:16:58 2 Peter one
00:16:58 --> 00:16:59 we kind of looked at
00:16:59 --> 00:17:00 a few minutes ago.
00:17:00 --> 00:17:01 That's who we are.
00:17:03 --> 00:17:07 And one really weird turn
00:17:07 --> 00:17:08 the church did
00:17:08 --> 00:17:09 was to follow Willow Creek
00:17:09 --> 00:17:10 and go down
00:17:10 --> 00:17:11 the Seeker Sensitive Mall.
00:17:11 --> 00:17:12 That was such a weird,
00:17:12 --> 00:17:13 for those of you
00:17:13 --> 00:17:13 who are a bit older,
00:17:13 --> 00:17:15 that was such a weird turn
00:17:15 --> 00:17:15 for us to do.
00:17:16 --> 00:17:16 We're going to start
00:17:16 --> 00:17:18 doing non-Christian activities
00:17:18 --> 00:17:20 to attract non-Christians.
00:17:21 --> 00:17:21 Doesn't make any sense.
00:17:22 --> 00:17:23 And Willow Creek,
00:17:23 --> 00:17:23 as many of you know,
00:17:23 --> 00:17:24 has now said,
00:17:24 --> 00:17:25 we don't do that anymore.
00:17:25 --> 00:17:27 And so we need to be saying,
00:17:27 --> 00:17:28 well, we never did.
00:17:29 --> 00:17:30 So we need to be
00:17:30 --> 00:17:31 following along with it.
00:17:31 --> 00:17:32 So that's our first pillar.
00:17:34 --> 00:17:35 Hockey group,
00:17:35 --> 00:17:36 glee club,
00:17:37 --> 00:17:37 choir,
00:17:38 --> 00:17:39 chess group,
00:17:40 --> 00:17:41 Christian youth group.
00:17:41 --> 00:17:42 And in this new
00:17:42 --> 00:17:44 post-millennial world
00:17:44 --> 00:17:46 where kids clearly want
00:17:46 --> 00:17:48 integrity and transparency
00:17:48 --> 00:17:50 and they want to know
00:17:50 --> 00:17:53 what will I get
00:17:53 --> 00:17:54 if I join this?
00:17:54 --> 00:17:56 What is this all about?
00:17:56 --> 00:17:57 Because I'm so busy
00:17:57 --> 00:17:59 and I've got so many
00:17:59 --> 00:18:00 good options
00:18:00 --> 00:18:01 that I need to figure out
00:18:01 --> 00:18:02 whether this is a valid
00:18:02 --> 00:18:03 thing for me to give
00:18:03 --> 00:18:05 my time and my money to.
00:18:05 --> 00:18:06 That's our strength.
00:18:07 --> 00:18:07 It's not our weakness.
00:18:08 --> 00:18:09 Our strength is to say,
00:18:10 --> 00:18:11 we are a place
00:18:11 --> 00:18:12 that will connect you
00:18:12 --> 00:18:12 with the creator
00:18:12 --> 00:18:12 of the universe.
00:18:14 --> 00:18:15 And we are a place
00:18:15 --> 00:18:16 that just knows Jesus
00:18:16 --> 00:18:18 intimately and loves him.
00:18:18 --> 00:18:23 Oh, where did that come from?
00:18:23 --> 00:18:24 Okay, now we have
00:18:24 --> 00:18:25 a second pillar.
00:18:26 --> 00:18:26 And our second pillar
00:18:26 --> 00:18:27 is this.
00:18:27 --> 00:18:28 We do Christian things.
00:18:29 --> 00:18:30 Real obvious.
00:18:31 --> 00:18:32 Why do we do
00:18:32 --> 00:18:32 Christian things?
00:18:33 --> 00:18:33 Because we're
00:18:33 --> 00:18:34 Christian youth group.
00:18:34 --> 00:18:35 That's why.
00:18:36 --> 00:18:38 You come to this club,
00:18:38 --> 00:18:40 to this group,
00:18:40 --> 00:18:43 we are unashamedly Christian.
00:18:44 --> 00:18:45 And we pursue
00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 spiritual disciplines.
00:18:48 --> 00:18:49 Now for those of you
00:18:49 --> 00:18:49 who are kind of
00:18:49 --> 00:18:51 like to think a bit deeper,
00:18:51 --> 00:18:52 I'm really wrestling
00:18:52 --> 00:18:54 with some terms.
00:18:54 --> 00:18:56 And I think where I'm going
00:18:56 --> 00:18:57 in the future
00:18:57 --> 00:18:58 is pillar number one
00:18:58 --> 00:18:59 is ontos.
00:19:00 --> 00:19:00 It's who we are.
00:19:01 --> 00:19:02 Pillar number two
00:19:02 --> 00:19:03 is pneumaticos.
00:19:03 --> 00:19:04 We are spiritual.
00:19:05 --> 00:19:05 And that means
00:19:05 --> 00:19:06 we do spiritual things.
00:19:07 --> 00:19:08 And pillar three,
00:19:08 --> 00:19:08 which we're going to get to
00:19:08 --> 00:19:08 in a minute,
00:19:08 --> 00:19:09 is praxis.
00:19:09 --> 00:19:10 We think about
00:19:10 --> 00:19:11 how we do it
00:19:11 --> 00:19:12 in a culture.
00:19:13 --> 00:19:14 So I'm working on
00:19:14 --> 00:19:15 something right now
00:19:15 --> 00:19:17 that may have that in it.
00:19:18 --> 00:19:19 But we pray.
00:19:19 --> 00:19:20 We send it to the Bible.
00:19:21 --> 00:19:22 We worship.
00:19:23 --> 00:19:24 Now we have a third pillar.
00:19:25 --> 00:19:26 Third pillar is
00:19:26 --> 00:19:26 we do it with youth.
00:19:27 --> 00:19:28 Now that is
00:19:29 --> 00:19:31 the model I think
00:19:31 --> 00:19:32 we need to think
00:19:32 --> 00:19:33 very carefully about.
00:19:34 --> 00:19:35 We do this
00:19:35 --> 00:19:36 with youth.
00:19:36 --> 00:19:37 youth.
00:19:38 --> 00:19:40 They are 15 years old.
00:19:40 --> 00:19:41 They are 12 years old.
00:19:41 --> 00:19:42 They are 20 years old.
00:19:43 --> 00:19:44 However age they are,
00:19:44 --> 00:19:45 what does it mean
00:19:45 --> 00:19:47 to be a Christian group
00:19:47 --> 00:19:48 and do Christian things
00:19:48 --> 00:19:49 with them?
00:19:49 --> 00:19:49 So we're going to think
00:19:49 --> 00:19:50 about culture.
00:19:52 --> 00:19:53 We're going to think about
00:19:53 --> 00:19:55 how do we fit this in
00:19:55 --> 00:19:55 to culture?
00:19:56 --> 00:19:58 What's the best time
00:19:58 --> 00:19:59 to do this
00:19:59 --> 00:20:00 in culture?
00:20:00 --> 00:20:02 What are some activities?
00:20:02 --> 00:20:03 So now we have to
00:20:03 --> 00:20:04 factor in cell phones.
00:20:04 --> 00:20:05 We're going to do
00:20:05 --> 00:20:06 an activity this afternoon
00:20:06 --> 00:20:07 that would really easily
00:20:07 --> 00:20:08 run with cell phones.
00:20:09 --> 00:20:10 I hate cell phones.
00:20:10 --> 00:20:11 I don't have a cell phone.
00:20:11 --> 00:20:11 I never text.
00:20:11 --> 00:20:12 I haven't texted
00:20:12 --> 00:20:14 for years and years and years.
00:20:14 --> 00:20:15 But I could see
00:20:15 --> 00:20:16 building texting
00:20:16 --> 00:20:17 into your youth program.
00:20:18 --> 00:20:19 I can also see
00:20:19 --> 00:20:19 making them
00:20:19 --> 00:20:21 put their phones away
00:20:21 --> 00:20:22 in the youth group program.
00:20:22 --> 00:20:23 But if your culture
00:20:23 --> 00:20:24 would be offended
00:20:24 --> 00:20:25 if you said
00:20:25 --> 00:20:26 okay all cell phones
00:20:26 --> 00:20:27 go into that basket.
00:20:27 --> 00:20:28 We'll give them back to you
00:20:28 --> 00:20:29 at the end of the night.
00:20:29 --> 00:20:31 I could see a culture
00:20:31 --> 00:20:32 where the kids just say
00:20:32 --> 00:20:33 I am not coming
00:20:33 --> 00:20:34 if you do that.
00:20:34 --> 00:20:36 So how do we build in
00:20:36 --> 00:20:36 cell phones?
00:20:37 --> 00:20:38 Well you guys are way ahead
00:20:38 --> 00:20:39 of me because you're
00:20:39 --> 00:20:40 a lot younger than I am.
00:20:40 --> 00:20:41 And you think savvy.
00:20:42 --> 00:20:43 So think through
00:20:43 --> 00:20:45 texting questions
00:20:45 --> 00:20:46 on the board
00:20:46 --> 00:20:47 during a Q&A.
00:20:47 --> 00:20:48 Think through having
00:20:48 --> 00:20:49 a leader texting
00:20:49 --> 00:20:50 to the kids.
00:20:51 --> 00:20:51 Hey are you listening
00:20:51 --> 00:20:52 to Ken?
00:20:52 --> 00:20:53 This is a great point.
00:20:53 --> 00:20:55 Or texting an outline
00:20:55 --> 00:20:56 to the talk.
00:20:56 --> 00:20:57 Or something along
00:20:57 --> 00:20:58 those lines.
00:20:58 --> 00:20:58 Who knows?
00:20:58 --> 00:20:59 There's a whole bunch
00:20:59 --> 00:20:59 of ways where you
00:20:59 --> 00:21:00 could think through
00:21:00 --> 00:21:01 how do we build
00:21:01 --> 00:21:01 our culture.
00:21:01 --> 00:21:02 Julie is going to do
00:21:02 --> 00:21:03 an activity with us
00:21:03 --> 00:21:04 later on where we
00:21:04 --> 00:21:05 built Facebook in
00:21:05 --> 00:21:07 to kind of a starting
00:21:07 --> 00:21:08 youth group.
00:21:08 --> 00:21:09 Julie said to me
00:21:09 --> 00:21:10 one day just about
00:21:10 --> 00:21:11 six weeks ago
00:21:11 --> 00:21:12 hey I think I've got
00:21:12 --> 00:21:13 a good kind of
00:21:13 --> 00:21:15 mixer kind of opening
00:21:15 --> 00:21:16 built on Facebook.
00:21:16 --> 00:21:16 Actually Julie
00:21:16 --> 00:21:17 do you mind saying
00:21:17 --> 00:21:18 it right now?
00:21:18 --> 00:21:19 We'll look at it
00:21:19 --> 00:21:19 really briefly this
00:21:19 --> 00:21:20 afternoon but do you
00:21:20 --> 00:21:20 mind?
00:21:20 --> 00:21:20 Okay yeah.
00:21:21 --> 00:21:21 But basically
00:21:21 --> 00:21:23 30 minutes before
00:21:23 --> 00:21:24 youth group
00:21:24 --> 00:21:25 I checked everyone's
00:21:25 --> 00:21:26 Facebook profile
00:21:26 --> 00:21:26 and wrote them all
00:21:26 --> 00:21:27 down.
00:21:27 --> 00:21:28 And then came to
00:21:28 --> 00:21:28 youth group
00:21:28 --> 00:21:29 handed out paper
00:21:29 --> 00:21:32 and then I went
00:21:32 --> 00:21:32 through each one
00:21:32 --> 00:21:33 and read out
00:21:33 --> 00:21:36 what their line was
00:21:36 --> 00:21:36 and they couldn't
00:21:36 --> 00:21:37 say it was them
00:21:37 --> 00:21:37 and they had to
00:21:37 --> 00:21:38 guess what each
00:21:38 --> 00:21:40 other's profile was.
00:21:40 --> 00:21:41 And they really
00:21:41 --> 00:21:43 loved the fact that
00:21:43 --> 00:21:44 everyone knows
00:21:44 --> 00:21:45 their profile.
00:21:45 --> 00:21:46 And so often
00:21:46 --> 00:21:46 young people
00:21:46 --> 00:21:47 they put their
00:21:47 --> 00:21:48 profile out there
00:21:48 --> 00:21:49 they want people
00:21:49 --> 00:21:49 to hear it
00:21:49 --> 00:21:50 they want people
00:21:50 --> 00:21:50 to like it
00:21:50 --> 00:21:51 they want people
00:21:51 --> 00:21:51 to comment on it.
00:21:51 --> 00:21:52 so they really
00:21:52 --> 00:21:53 responded well
00:21:53 --> 00:21:54 to we've got to
00:21:54 --> 00:21:55 hear what everyone
00:21:55 --> 00:21:57 and we even got
00:21:57 --> 00:21:57 to interact with
00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 you said you had
00:21:59 --> 00:21:59 a bad week
00:21:59 --> 00:22:00 what happened
00:22:00 --> 00:22:01 and the school
00:22:01 --> 00:22:01 was very positive.
00:22:02 --> 00:22:02 Yeah.
00:22:02 --> 00:22:03 Our youth group
00:22:03 --> 00:22:03 where we were at
00:22:03 --> 00:22:04 very small
00:22:04 --> 00:22:05 we had eight or
00:22:05 --> 00:22:05 nine kids
00:22:05 --> 00:22:07 and so that was
00:22:07 --> 00:22:08 just a really nice
00:22:08 --> 00:22:09 because one thing
00:22:09 --> 00:22:09 I'm going to say
00:22:09 --> 00:22:10 to you later
00:22:10 --> 00:22:11 is you want to
00:22:11 --> 00:22:12 start the group
00:22:12 --> 00:22:13 by saying
00:22:13 --> 00:22:14 we're a group.
00:22:14 --> 00:22:15 Like it's really
00:22:15 --> 00:22:15 good to be back
00:22:15 --> 00:22:16 together.
00:22:16 --> 00:22:17 You know we
00:22:17 --> 00:22:17 haven't met
00:22:17 --> 00:22:18 for a week
00:22:18 --> 00:22:19 and so let's
00:22:19 --> 00:22:20 kind of catch up
00:22:20 --> 00:22:21 and rediscover
00:22:21 --> 00:22:23 our groupness.
00:22:23 --> 00:22:24 And so the welcome
00:22:24 --> 00:22:24 is very important
00:22:24 --> 00:22:25 for that.
00:22:25 --> 00:22:25 So a really nice
00:22:25 --> 00:22:26 way just to start
00:22:26 --> 00:22:26 the group
00:22:26 --> 00:22:28 speaks right
00:22:28 --> 00:22:28 to their culture.
00:22:29 --> 00:22:29 Those of you
00:22:29 --> 00:22:30 who are kind of
00:22:30 --> 00:22:31 under 25
00:22:31 --> 00:22:32 this is where
00:22:32 --> 00:22:33 you live and breathe
00:22:33 --> 00:22:34 and it's brilliant.
00:22:35 --> 00:22:36 But this is
00:22:36 --> 00:22:38 the third pillar
00:22:38 --> 00:22:39 not the first pillar.
00:22:40 --> 00:22:41 So this is not
00:22:41 --> 00:22:42 how do we attract
00:22:42 --> 00:22:43 kids through
00:22:43 --> 00:22:44 gadgetry
00:22:44 --> 00:22:46 but it's
00:22:46 --> 00:22:46 hey we're a
00:22:46 --> 00:22:47 Christian group
00:22:47 --> 00:22:48 we do Christian
00:22:48 --> 00:22:49 things but we
00:22:49 --> 00:22:49 have to factor
00:22:49 --> 00:22:50 in culture
00:22:50 --> 00:22:51 for crying out loud.
00:22:51 --> 00:22:51 You know it's
00:22:51 --> 00:22:52 where we live.
00:22:52 --> 00:22:53 We need to factor
00:22:53 --> 00:22:54 in learning styles.
00:22:55 --> 00:22:55 This is where
00:22:55 --> 00:22:56 we in Sydney
00:22:56 --> 00:22:58 fail miserably
00:22:58 --> 00:23:00 because we
00:23:00 --> 00:23:02 we have learned
00:23:02 --> 00:23:03 one learning style
00:23:03 --> 00:23:05 and to be honest
00:23:05 --> 00:23:06 I'm doing it right now
00:23:06 --> 00:23:07 where we just
00:23:07 --> 00:23:09 speak a long time
00:23:09 --> 00:23:10 and kids listen.
00:23:11 --> 00:23:11 That's where
00:23:11 --> 00:23:12 my time
00:23:12 --> 00:23:13 at the youth group
00:23:13 --> 00:23:14 at Oakhurst
00:23:14 --> 00:23:15 out in Sydney's west
00:23:15 --> 00:23:17 was super profitable.
00:23:17 --> 00:23:18 because we had
00:23:18 --> 00:23:19 kids who couldn't
00:23:19 --> 00:23:20 listen for 10 seconds.
00:23:21 --> 00:23:21 We had kids
00:23:21 --> 00:23:22 who couldn't read
00:23:22 --> 00:23:23 and so suddenly
00:23:23 --> 00:23:25 I had to think
00:23:25 --> 00:23:25 through okay
00:23:25 --> 00:23:26 how do I take
00:23:26 --> 00:23:28 a 25 minute message
00:23:28 --> 00:23:29 that's
00:23:29 --> 00:23:30 exposition
00:23:30 --> 00:23:32 it's a Bible passage
00:23:32 --> 00:23:34 how do I take that
00:23:34 --> 00:23:36 and deliver it
00:23:36 --> 00:23:37 in a way
00:23:37 --> 00:23:38 that Brendan
00:23:38 --> 00:23:39 can grasp.
00:23:40 --> 00:23:40 Brendan
00:23:40 --> 00:23:41 is a
00:23:41 --> 00:23:42 he was a great
00:23:42 --> 00:23:43 person
00:23:43 --> 00:23:44 but he was
00:23:44 --> 00:23:45 challenged
00:23:45 --> 00:23:46 when it came
00:23:46 --> 00:23:47 to
00:23:47 --> 00:23:49 hearing and
00:23:49 --> 00:23:49 listening
00:23:49 --> 00:23:50 for 25 minutes.
00:23:51 --> 00:23:51 So we had to
00:23:51 --> 00:23:52 think through
00:23:52 --> 00:23:52 very carefully
00:23:52 --> 00:23:54 how do we do it
00:23:54 --> 00:23:54 bang
00:23:54 --> 00:23:55 bang
00:23:55 --> 00:23:55 bang
00:23:55 --> 00:23:56 very active
00:23:56 --> 00:23:57 and so
00:23:57 --> 00:23:57 you may need to
00:23:57 --> 00:23:58 talk to a school
00:23:58 --> 00:23:58 teacher
00:23:58 --> 00:23:59 and say to a school
00:23:59 --> 00:23:59 teacher
00:23:59 --> 00:24:00 listen what do I do
00:24:00 --> 00:24:02 what do I do
00:24:02 --> 00:24:02 because school
00:24:02 --> 00:24:03 teachers are masters
00:24:03 --> 00:24:05 at well you want
00:24:05 --> 00:24:05 to maybe have
00:24:05 --> 00:24:06 three things
00:24:06 --> 00:24:06 and you want
00:24:06 --> 00:24:07 to have a variety
00:24:07 --> 00:24:08 and so you do this
00:24:08 --> 00:24:09 and then you do this
00:24:09 --> 00:24:09 and then you do this
00:24:09 --> 00:24:11 think ah
00:24:11 --> 00:24:12 that is great
00:24:12 --> 00:24:13 so think through
00:24:13 --> 00:24:13 learning skills
00:24:13 --> 00:24:14 active learning
00:24:14 --> 00:24:16 have you not noticed
00:24:16 --> 00:24:17 that most of your kids
00:24:17 --> 00:24:18 are medicated
00:24:18 --> 00:24:19 to the eyeballs
00:24:19 --> 00:24:20 these days
00:24:20 --> 00:24:21 they need
00:24:21 --> 00:24:22 they need something
00:24:22 --> 00:24:23 energy
00:24:23 --> 00:24:24 or something
00:24:24 --> 00:24:24 something
00:24:24 --> 00:24:25 but let's build that
00:24:25 --> 00:24:26 into our teaching
00:24:26 --> 00:24:27 program
00:24:27 --> 00:24:28 let's build it
00:24:28 --> 00:24:29 into maybe
00:24:29 --> 00:24:30 our prayer times
00:24:30 --> 00:24:31 some of you
00:24:31 --> 00:24:32 might be wrestling
00:24:32 --> 00:24:32 through
00:24:32 --> 00:24:33 you know
00:24:33 --> 00:24:34 do we have
00:24:34 --> 00:24:35 moving prayer
00:24:35 --> 00:24:37 for some of you
00:24:37 --> 00:24:37 that feels a little
00:24:37 --> 00:24:38 uncomfortable
00:24:38 --> 00:24:39 but one
00:24:39 --> 00:24:40 one aspect
00:24:40 --> 00:24:41 of youth
00:24:41 --> 00:24:42 ministry
00:24:42 --> 00:24:43 that's taken
00:24:43 --> 00:24:43 quite a hold
00:24:43 --> 00:24:44 in other parts
00:24:44 --> 00:24:44 of the world
00:24:44 --> 00:24:45 is thinking
00:24:45 --> 00:24:46 through stations
00:24:46 --> 00:24:46 where you
00:24:46 --> 00:24:47 you repent
00:24:47 --> 00:24:47 here
00:24:47 --> 00:24:48 and you pray
00:24:48 --> 00:24:49 for friends
00:24:49 --> 00:24:49 there
00:24:49 --> 00:24:50 and you thank
00:24:50 --> 00:24:51 God for creation
00:24:51 --> 00:24:52 there
00:24:52 --> 00:24:52 and you
00:24:52 --> 00:24:53 that's proven
00:24:53 --> 00:24:54 to be very
00:24:54 --> 00:24:55 very popular
00:24:55 --> 00:24:56 with post-millennials
00:24:56 --> 00:24:57 I can see
00:24:57 --> 00:24:58 a number of groups
00:24:58 --> 00:24:59 doing it here
00:24:59 --> 00:25:00 where there's a movement
00:25:00 --> 00:25:01 built in
00:25:01 --> 00:25:03 Lonnie
00:25:03 --> 00:25:03 who's over here
00:25:03 --> 00:25:04 she really liked
00:25:04 --> 00:25:05 liturgical dancing
00:25:05 --> 00:25:05 she loved
00:25:05 --> 00:25:10 that was a private
00:25:10 --> 00:25:10 joke
00:25:10 --> 00:25:10 sorry
00:25:10 --> 00:25:12 we take in
00:25:12 --> 00:25:13 adolescent development
00:25:13 --> 00:25:15 so if you're
00:25:15 --> 00:25:16 running a wider
00:25:16 --> 00:25:16 youth group
00:25:16 --> 00:25:17 of grade 6
00:25:17 --> 00:25:17 to 12
00:25:17 --> 00:25:18 ouch
00:25:18 --> 00:25:20 you know
00:25:20 --> 00:25:22 I run a youth group
00:25:22 --> 00:25:23 from grade 6
00:25:23 --> 00:25:23 to 12
00:25:23 --> 00:25:25 but ouch
00:25:25 --> 00:25:26 you know
00:25:26 --> 00:25:27 we've got
00:25:27 --> 00:25:28 little Elliot
00:25:28 --> 00:25:29 who's just
00:25:29 --> 00:25:30 full of beans
00:25:30 --> 00:25:30 he's a terrific
00:25:30 --> 00:25:31 kid
00:25:31 --> 00:25:31 but he's just
00:25:31 --> 00:25:32 he's just
00:25:32 --> 00:25:34 and then we've got
00:25:34 --> 00:25:34 Roy
00:25:34 --> 00:25:35 who's in grade 12
00:25:35 --> 00:25:36 who's really
00:25:36 --> 00:25:37 wrestling with his future
00:25:37 --> 00:25:38 so I've got to think
00:25:38 --> 00:25:38 through
00:25:38 --> 00:25:39 man how do I do this
00:25:39 --> 00:25:40 so I've got to
00:25:40 --> 00:25:41 really think creatively
00:25:41 --> 00:25:42 about my program
00:25:42 --> 00:25:43 it's hard
00:25:43 --> 00:25:44 it's hard to do
00:25:44 --> 00:25:45 but I want to
00:25:45 --> 00:25:45 factor that in
00:25:45 --> 00:25:47 because the third
00:25:47 --> 00:25:48 pillar is super important
00:25:48 --> 00:25:50 now what I'm going
00:25:50 --> 00:25:50 to tell you
00:25:50 --> 00:25:50 in a few minutes
00:25:50 --> 00:25:51 is we're not
00:25:51 --> 00:25:52 good at this
00:25:52 --> 00:25:54 what we do is
00:25:54 --> 00:25:56 we start with
00:25:56 --> 00:25:56 some games
00:25:56 --> 00:25:58 and we move
00:25:58 --> 00:25:58 to the Bible
00:25:58 --> 00:26:00 that's what we do
00:26:00 --> 00:26:01 that is such
00:26:01 --> 00:26:02 there's not a lot
00:26:02 --> 00:26:03 of thought
00:26:03 --> 00:26:03 that goes into
00:26:03 --> 00:26:04 that program
00:26:04 --> 00:26:05 but get rid of that
00:26:05 --> 00:26:06 this afternoon
00:26:06 --> 00:26:07 get rid of that
00:26:07 --> 00:26:07 program
00:26:07 --> 00:26:08 and rethink
00:26:08 --> 00:26:09 so those are
00:26:09 --> 00:26:09 those are our
00:26:09 --> 00:26:10 three pillars
00:26:10 --> 00:26:11 and I want you
00:26:11 --> 00:26:11 to notice
00:26:11 --> 00:26:12 the movement
00:26:12 --> 00:26:12 here
00:26:12 --> 00:26:13 the movement
00:26:13 --> 00:26:13 is
00:26:13 --> 00:26:16 the movement
00:26:16 --> 00:26:16 is
00:26:16 --> 00:26:18 our theology
00:26:18 --> 00:26:19 impacts
00:26:19 --> 00:26:20 our practice
00:26:20 --> 00:26:23 so there are
00:26:23 --> 00:26:24 things that
00:26:24 --> 00:26:25 we're not
00:26:25 --> 00:26:25 going to do
00:26:25 --> 00:26:26 I'm not
00:26:26 --> 00:26:27 I'm going to
00:26:27 --> 00:26:27 do
00:26:27 --> 00:26:28 I'm going to
00:26:28 --> 00:26:29 do very few
00:26:29 --> 00:26:30 activities
00:26:30 --> 00:26:31 if any
00:26:31 --> 00:26:32 that I can't
00:26:32 --> 00:26:34 see a high
00:26:34 --> 00:26:34 degree of
00:26:34 --> 00:26:35 profit
00:26:35 --> 00:26:36 from
00:26:36 --> 00:26:37 especially
00:26:37 --> 00:26:38 theologically
00:26:38 --> 00:26:40 does this
00:26:40 --> 00:26:40 help the
00:26:40 --> 00:26:40 community of
00:26:40 --> 00:26:41 God
00:26:41 --> 00:26:42 connect with
00:26:42 --> 00:26:42 each other
00:26:42 --> 00:26:42 better
00:26:42 --> 00:26:43 does this
00:26:43 --> 00:26:44 help the
00:26:44 --> 00:26:44 community of
00:26:44 --> 00:26:44 God
00:26:44 --> 00:26:45 connect with
00:26:45 --> 00:26:46 God
00:26:46 --> 00:26:46 better
00:26:46 --> 00:26:47 does this
00:26:47 --> 00:26:47 activity
00:26:47 --> 00:26:48 help us
00:26:48 --> 00:26:48 to pray
00:26:48 --> 00:26:49 learn the
00:26:49 --> 00:26:50 Bible
00:26:50 --> 00:26:51 love
00:26:51 --> 00:26:52 because
00:26:52 --> 00:26:53 I'm
00:26:53 --> 00:26:54 theologically
00:26:54 --> 00:26:54 driven
00:26:54 --> 00:26:55 but if I
00:26:55 --> 00:26:56 just think
00:26:56 --> 00:26:57 this activity
00:26:57 --> 00:26:57 will quote
00:26:57 --> 00:26:58 blow off
00:26:58 --> 00:26:58 steam
00:26:58 --> 00:26:59 it's gone
00:26:59 --> 00:27:01 as I was
00:27:01 --> 00:27:01 saying to
00:27:01 --> 00:27:01 some youth
00:27:01 --> 00:27:02 leaders the
00:27:02 --> 00:27:02 other day
00:27:02 --> 00:27:03 I have
00:27:03 --> 00:27:04 never in
00:27:04 --> 00:27:04 the history
00:27:04 --> 00:27:05 of my
00:27:05 --> 00:27:05 youth
00:27:05 --> 00:27:05 ministry
00:27:05 --> 00:27:05 seen a
00:27:05 --> 00:27:06 kid blow
00:27:06 --> 00:27:06 off steam
00:27:06 --> 00:27:08 if somebody
00:27:08 --> 00:27:08 says to you
00:27:08 --> 00:27:09 well we do
00:27:09 --> 00:27:09 this activity
00:27:09 --> 00:27:10 just to let
00:27:10 --> 00:27:10 them blow
00:27:10 --> 00:27:11 off steam
00:27:11 --> 00:27:12 grab their
00:27:12 --> 00:27:12 tongue and
00:27:12 --> 00:27:12 see how far
00:27:12 --> 00:27:13 it will
00:27:13 --> 00:27:13 actually come
00:27:13 --> 00:27:13 out
00:27:13 --> 00:27:13 like in
00:27:13 --> 00:27:14 the cartoons
00:27:14 --> 00:27:17 kids don't
00:27:17 --> 00:27:17 blow off steam
00:27:17 --> 00:27:19 kids get
00:27:19 --> 00:27:19 more hyped
00:27:19 --> 00:27:20 up
00:27:20 --> 00:27:21 and so
00:27:21 --> 00:27:22 that's a
00:27:22 --> 00:27:22 concept
00:27:22 --> 00:27:23 that I say
00:27:23 --> 00:27:24 not really
00:27:24 --> 00:27:25 that's not a
00:27:25 --> 00:27:26 category I'm going to
00:27:26 --> 00:27:26 think to
00:27:26 --> 00:27:27 letting off steam
00:27:27 --> 00:27:29 but connecting
00:27:29 --> 00:27:30 learning actively
00:27:30 --> 00:27:31 those are
00:27:31 --> 00:27:32 concepts that I
00:27:32 --> 00:27:33 think through
00:27:33 --> 00:27:34 now anybody have
00:27:34 --> 00:27:35 a question about
00:27:35 --> 00:27:35 that
00:27:35 --> 00:27:37 anybody have a
00:27:37 --> 00:27:37 question or a
00:27:37 --> 00:27:37 thought
00:27:37 --> 00:27:44 yeah
00:27:44 --> 00:27:48 yeah
00:27:48 --> 00:27:50 I'd rather
00:27:50 --> 00:27:51 not but
00:27:51 --> 00:27:51 sometimes we
00:27:51 --> 00:27:52 have to
00:27:52 --> 00:27:53 yeah
00:27:53 --> 00:27:58 yeah
00:27:58 --> 00:28:04 yeah
00:28:04 --> 00:28:04 yeah
00:28:04 --> 00:28:09 partly that's
00:28:09 --> 00:28:09 going to
00:28:09 --> 00:28:09 that's going to
00:28:09 --> 00:28:10 depend on the
00:28:10 --> 00:28:11 structure of some
00:28:11 --> 00:28:12 things going on in
00:28:12 --> 00:28:12 your youth program
00:28:12 --> 00:28:13 do you have
00:28:13 --> 00:28:14 do you have
00:28:14 --> 00:28:15 small groups
00:28:15 --> 00:28:15 where the kids
00:28:15 --> 00:28:16 go and join a
00:28:16 --> 00:28:17 small group Bible
00:28:17 --> 00:28:17 study
00:28:17 --> 00:28:20 if I'm a big
00:28:20 --> 00:28:20 believer in running
00:28:20 --> 00:28:21 a small group
00:28:21 --> 00:28:21 network we're going
00:28:21 --> 00:28:22 to talk about that
00:28:22 --> 00:28:22 in the next
00:28:22 --> 00:28:22 session
00:28:22 --> 00:28:24 so I'm not
00:28:24 --> 00:28:24 going to do a
00:28:24 --> 00:28:25 lot of small
00:28:25 --> 00:28:25 group activities
00:28:25 --> 00:28:27 in the
00:28:27 --> 00:28:28 actual main
00:28:28 --> 00:28:28 program
00:28:28 --> 00:28:30 but it's not a
00:28:30 --> 00:28:30 bad thing to do
00:28:30 --> 00:28:31 by any stretch of
00:28:31 --> 00:28:31 the imagination
00:28:31 --> 00:28:32 it's a very good
00:28:32 --> 00:28:32 thing to do
00:28:32 --> 00:28:33 we just don't
00:28:33 --> 00:28:33 need them because
00:28:33 --> 00:28:34 we have cell
00:28:34 --> 00:28:35 groups that meet
00:28:35 --> 00:28:35 at another time
00:28:35 --> 00:28:37 I
00:28:37 --> 00:28:40 in some
00:28:40 --> 00:28:41 situations
00:28:41 --> 00:28:42 yes I would
00:28:42 --> 00:28:42 split the
00:28:42 --> 00:28:42 teaching
00:28:42 --> 00:28:44 I don't
00:28:44 --> 00:28:44 personally do
00:28:44 --> 00:28:45 that but I
00:28:45 --> 00:28:45 can see the
00:28:45 --> 00:28:46 argument for it
00:28:46 --> 00:28:47 okay
00:28:47 --> 00:28:48 junior hires
00:28:48 --> 00:28:49 Brad's going to
00:28:49 --> 00:28:49 take you
00:28:49 --> 00:28:50 you're going to
00:28:50 --> 00:28:51 do this and
00:28:51 --> 00:28:51 the senior hires
00:28:51 --> 00:28:52 will stay
00:28:52 --> 00:28:53 I tend not
00:28:53 --> 00:28:54 to do that
00:28:54 --> 00:28:54 I tend to
00:28:54 --> 00:28:54 keep them
00:28:54 --> 00:28:55 all together
00:28:55 --> 00:28:56 and what I'm
00:28:56 --> 00:28:57 going to try
00:28:57 --> 00:28:57 to do is
00:28:57 --> 00:28:59 pick my
00:28:59 --> 00:29:01 median level
00:29:01 --> 00:29:02 and it's hard
00:29:02 --> 00:29:03 so generally
00:29:03 --> 00:29:04 I aim for
00:29:04 --> 00:29:05 kind of
00:29:05 --> 00:29:06 year 11
00:29:06 --> 00:29:07 year 10
00:29:07 --> 00:29:09 and then I'm
00:29:09 --> 00:29:09 going to think
00:29:09 --> 00:29:10 through okay
00:29:10 --> 00:29:10 I want to make
00:29:10 --> 00:29:11 sure that my
00:29:11 --> 00:29:12 talk has some
00:29:12 --> 00:29:13 interactiveness to
00:29:13 --> 00:29:13 it
00:29:13 --> 00:29:15 maybe some
00:29:15 --> 00:29:16 movement involved
00:29:16 --> 00:29:17 and some
00:29:17 --> 00:29:18 kind of
00:29:18 --> 00:29:19 turn to the
00:29:19 --> 00:29:19 person next
00:29:19 --> 00:29:19 to you
00:29:19 --> 00:29:20 and act
00:29:20 --> 00:29:20 this out
00:29:20 --> 00:29:21 or I
00:29:21 --> 00:29:21 need a
00:29:21 --> 00:29:22 few of
00:29:22 --> 00:29:22 you to
00:29:22 --> 00:29:22 come on
00:29:22 --> 00:29:23 up and
00:29:23 --> 00:29:24 do this
00:29:24 --> 00:29:25 drama as
00:29:25 --> 00:29:25 part of my
00:29:25 --> 00:29:26 talk or
00:29:26 --> 00:29:27 I need
00:29:27 --> 00:29:28 here's the
00:29:28 --> 00:29:28 white board
00:29:28 --> 00:29:29 I want you to
00:29:29 --> 00:29:30 really quickly
00:29:30 --> 00:29:31 get into groups
00:29:31 --> 00:29:32 come up with
00:29:32 --> 00:29:32 blah blah blah
00:29:32 --> 00:29:33 and write up on
00:29:33 --> 00:29:33 the board
00:29:33 --> 00:29:34 yada yada
00:29:34 --> 00:29:34 yada
00:29:34 --> 00:29:36 so I
00:29:36 --> 00:29:37 what I'm
00:29:37 --> 00:29:37 going to do
00:29:37 --> 00:29:37 is what I
00:29:37 --> 00:29:38 said a few
00:29:38 --> 00:29:38 minutes ago
00:29:38 --> 00:29:38 I'm going to
00:29:38 --> 00:29:39 try to build
00:29:39 --> 00:29:40 in three
00:29:40 --> 00:29:41 movements in
00:29:41 --> 00:29:41 my talk
00:29:41 --> 00:29:43 now I've
00:29:43 --> 00:29:43 got to be
00:29:43 --> 00:29:43 honest with
00:29:43 --> 00:29:44 you
00:29:44 --> 00:29:45 I tend to
00:29:45 --> 00:29:45 be lazy
00:29:45 --> 00:29:46 and that
00:29:46 --> 00:29:47 often goes
00:29:47 --> 00:29:47 by the
00:29:47 --> 00:29:47 wayside
00:29:47 --> 00:29:49 to build
00:29:49 --> 00:29:49 that in
00:29:49 --> 00:29:49 is going to
00:29:49 --> 00:29:50 take an
00:29:50 --> 00:29:50 extra hour
00:29:50 --> 00:29:51 of work
00:29:51 --> 00:29:52 on your
00:29:52 --> 00:29:52 talk
00:29:52 --> 00:29:53 and so
00:29:53 --> 00:29:54 for those
00:29:54 --> 00:29:54 of you who
00:29:54 --> 00:29:55 are volunteers
00:29:55 --> 00:29:57 and giving
00:29:57 --> 00:29:58 talks
00:29:58 --> 00:29:59 that's hard
00:29:59 --> 00:29:59 work
00:29:59 --> 00:30:01 yeah
00:30:01 --> 00:30:03 so if you
00:30:03 --> 00:30:04 were finding
00:30:04 --> 00:30:04 a medium
00:30:04 --> 00:30:05 level
00:30:05 --> 00:30:05 in your
00:30:05 --> 00:30:06 group
00:30:06 --> 00:30:06 do you
00:30:06 --> 00:30:07 ever find
00:30:07 --> 00:30:07 that the
00:30:07 --> 00:30:07 kids
00:30:07 --> 00:30:08 I know
00:30:08 --> 00:30:08 you're
00:30:08 --> 00:30:08 saying
00:30:08 --> 00:30:09 put all
00:30:09 --> 00:30:09 the
00:30:09 --> 00:30:09 three
00:30:09 --> 00:30:09 stages
00:30:09 --> 00:30:09 but
00:30:09 --> 00:30:09 do you
00:30:09 --> 00:30:09 ever
00:30:09 --> 00:30:10 find
00:30:10 --> 00:30:10 that the
00:30:10 --> 00:30:11 younger
00:30:11 --> 00:30:12 like
00:30:12 --> 00:30:12 the
00:30:12 --> 00:30:12 seven
00:30:12 --> 00:30:14 miss out
00:30:14 --> 00:30:15 in the
00:30:15 --> 00:30:15 12
00:30:15 --> 00:30:16 miss out
00:30:16 --> 00:30:16 yeah
00:30:16 --> 00:30:17 yeah
00:30:17 --> 00:30:17 good
00:30:17 --> 00:30:18 very good
00:30:18 --> 00:30:18 question
00:30:18 --> 00:30:18 what do
00:30:18 --> 00:30:19 you do
00:30:19 --> 00:30:19 you know
00:30:19 --> 00:30:19 that's
00:30:19 --> 00:30:20 that's
00:30:20 --> 00:30:20 that's
00:30:20 --> 00:30:21 that's
00:30:21 --> 00:30:21 why I'm
00:30:21 --> 00:30:22 a big
00:30:22 --> 00:30:22 believer
00:30:22 --> 00:30:22 if you
00:30:22 --> 00:30:23 can
00:30:23 --> 00:30:23 in having
00:30:23 --> 00:30:24 two youth
00:30:24 --> 00:30:24 groups
00:30:24 --> 00:30:25 junior high
00:30:25 --> 00:30:25 senior high
00:30:25 --> 00:30:26 I think
00:30:26 --> 00:30:26 that's
00:30:26 --> 00:30:27 that's
00:30:27 --> 00:30:27 that's
00:30:27 --> 00:30:27 the best
00:30:27 --> 00:30:28 world
00:30:28 --> 00:30:28 to do
00:30:28 --> 00:30:28 it
00:30:28 --> 00:30:29 because
00:30:29 --> 00:30:29 then I'm
00:30:29 --> 00:30:30 aiming
00:30:30 --> 00:30:30 a little
00:30:30 --> 00:30:30 bit
00:30:30 --> 00:30:31 more for
00:30:31 --> 00:30:31 the grade
00:30:31 --> 00:30:32 nines
00:30:32 --> 00:30:32 and I'm
00:30:32 --> 00:30:33 just
00:30:33 --> 00:30:33 I'm
00:30:33 --> 00:30:34 just
00:30:34 --> 00:30:34 saying
00:30:34 --> 00:30:34 grade
00:30:34 --> 00:30:35 sevens
00:30:35 --> 00:30:35 you'll
00:30:35 --> 00:30:35 get
00:30:35 --> 00:30:36 it
00:30:36 --> 00:30:37 and
00:30:37 --> 00:30:37 I
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00:30:37 --> 00:30:37 we've
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00:30:38 --> 00:30:38 nines
00:30:38 --> 00:30:39 have a
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00:30:42 --> 00:30:42 like having
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00:30:44 --> 00:30:45 often sit
00:30:45 --> 00:30:45 through a
00:30:45 --> 00:30:45 talk that's
00:30:45 --> 00:30:46 boring
00:30:46 --> 00:30:48 and I'll
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00:30:49 --> 00:30:49 grade
00:30:49 --> 00:30:49 twelves
00:30:49 --> 00:30:50 but yeah
00:30:50 --> 00:30:52 and in
00:30:52 --> 00:30:52 my youth
00:30:52 --> 00:30:53 group right
00:30:53 --> 00:30:53 now
00:30:53 --> 00:30:53 this
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00:30:54 --> 00:30:54 Elliot
00:30:54 --> 00:30:55 tremendous
00:30:55 --> 00:30:56 kid
00:30:56 --> 00:30:57 but quite
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00:30:58 --> 00:30:58 the grade
00:30:58 --> 00:30:58 twelves
00:30:58 --> 00:30:59 crazy
00:30:59 --> 00:31:01 he gets
00:31:01 --> 00:31:01 up all
00:31:01 --> 00:31:01 the time
00:31:01 --> 00:31:01 and goes
00:31:01 --> 00:31:02 to the
00:31:02 --> 00:31:02 fridge
00:31:02 --> 00:31:02 there's a
00:31:02 --> 00:31:03 fridge
00:31:03 --> 00:31:03 in our
00:31:03 --> 00:31:03 thing
00:31:03 --> 00:31:04 and raids
00:31:04 --> 00:31:05 the fridge
00:31:05 --> 00:31:06 during youth
00:31:06 --> 00:31:06 group
00:31:06 --> 00:31:07 and it's
00:31:07 --> 00:31:08 awesome
00:31:08 --> 00:31:08 but it's
00:31:08 --> 00:31:08 really
00:31:08 --> 00:31:10 awkward
00:31:10 --> 00:31:15 yeah I'm
00:31:15 --> 00:31:16 a volunteer
00:31:16 --> 00:31:17 so I've
00:31:17 --> 00:31:17 got so
00:31:17 --> 00:31:18 many other
00:31:18 --> 00:31:18 things to
00:31:18 --> 00:31:18 do
00:31:18 --> 00:31:19 but I
00:31:19 --> 00:31:19 don't
00:31:19 --> 00:31:20 believe in
00:31:20 --> 00:31:20 teaching
00:31:20 --> 00:31:20 youth
00:31:20 --> 00:31:21 ministry
00:31:21 --> 00:31:21 not doing
00:31:21 --> 00:31:21 youth
00:31:21 --> 00:31:22 ministry
00:31:22 --> 00:31:22 so
00:31:22 --> 00:31:25 I said
00:31:25 --> 00:31:25 to the
00:31:25 --> 00:31:25 kids
00:31:25 --> 00:31:27 when we
00:31:27 --> 00:31:27 were starting
00:31:27 --> 00:31:27 the youth
00:31:27 --> 00:31:27 group
00:31:27 --> 00:31:28 I said
00:31:28 --> 00:31:28 hey guys
00:31:28 --> 00:31:28 I'd really
00:31:28 --> 00:31:29 like to
00:31:29 --> 00:31:29 make this
00:31:29 --> 00:31:29 grade
00:31:29 --> 00:31:30 nine
00:31:30 --> 00:31:30 to
00:31:30 --> 00:31:31 twelve
00:31:31 --> 00:31:32 and they
00:31:32 --> 00:31:32 said
00:31:32 --> 00:31:32 but what
00:31:32 --> 00:31:32 about
00:31:32 --> 00:31:33 Doug
00:31:33 --> 00:31:34 and I
00:31:34 --> 00:31:34 thought
00:31:34 --> 00:31:35 fair enough
00:31:35 --> 00:31:36 we'll
00:31:36 --> 00:31:36 make it
00:31:36 --> 00:31:36 seven
00:31:36 --> 00:31:36 to twelve
00:31:36 --> 00:31:37 because
00:31:37 --> 00:31:37 I love
00:31:37 --> 00:31:37 Doug
00:31:37 --> 00:31:38 and I
00:31:38 --> 00:31:38 thought
00:31:38 --> 00:31:38 I'm
00:31:38 --> 00:31:38 not going
00:31:38 --> 00:31:39 to come
00:31:39 --> 00:31:39 in and
00:31:39 --> 00:31:40 say
00:31:40 --> 00:31:41 your friend
00:31:41 --> 00:31:42 can't
00:31:42 --> 00:31:42 come
00:31:42 --> 00:31:43 but it
00:31:43 --> 00:31:44 created
00:31:44 --> 00:31:44 problems
00:31:44 --> 00:31:46 do you
00:31:46 --> 00:31:46 have a
00:31:46 --> 00:31:46 comment
00:31:46 --> 00:31:46 on that
00:31:46 --> 00:31:47 at all
00:31:47 --> 00:31:51 mind
00:31:51 --> 00:31:51 the Canadian
00:31:51 --> 00:31:52 kids loved
00:31:52 --> 00:31:52 sock puppet
00:31:52 --> 00:31:52 memory
00:31:52 --> 00:31:53 verses
00:31:53 --> 00:31:54 it was
00:31:54 --> 00:31:54 just a
00:31:54 --> 00:31:55 winner
00:31:55 --> 00:31:56 so
00:31:56 --> 00:31:56 we might
00:31:56 --> 00:31:57 talk about
00:31:57 --> 00:31:57 later